panic attacks and tripping

[God_Albino]

had to stop taking acid because eventually even half a tab would result in staying up 3 days, complete panic, benzos and opiates would make the trip worse.

i havent eaten mushrooms since highschool though and i was just given a big bag of some real beauties, i'm pretty tempted.

does anyone with panic attacks and/or other psychiatric problems have any input, i dont want to trigger another multi-day hellride.

[HistoryofMadness]

use an atypical antipsychotic to come down - olanzapine or seroquel or something.

[Dan Steely]

Try small amounts of the fungus, but if trippin isn't agreeing with you don't keep bangin your head against the wall trying to like it. That's what coke is for.

[Voyager]

If you wanna stop those trips just take Risperidone 2mg tablettes, three times a day. Risperidone blocks all the LSD effects and post effects instantly.
Olanzapine is much more modern and more expencive, but Risperidone is better for this type of issue.

[butane]

If I were you, I'd just start very, very small and work my way up. You don't want to jump right in to a high-dose trip and then have a terrible trip! Also, by working your way up, you get familiar with the experience, which helps to reduce anxiety.

[SeVeN]

I've had moments on shrooms where I have to leave the room but Im about the same as you on LSD now-a-days.

Mushrooms usuaully MAKE me grin. Start small. then a few days later use an apropriate dose if the first one wasnt too bad.

Good luck. Bad trips suck. I stopped acid when I saw some one else flip the fuck out. Thats how scary that shit was to me. So I say fuck the cid.

[HistoryofMadness]

yeah i'm of the mindset that tripping is no longer for me. never had a bad trip, and i had MANY trips, but it just seems like that time has passed. i don't like to push anything past its limits anymore; there's usually punishment for that somewhere down the road if not immediately.

anyway i'm still up for trying some different things, preferably some more 'normal' or 'pleasant' or dissociative... different, i guess. just not cid. its been a long time.

[ndoftaworld]

The ONLY time I dropped cid I flipped out, had to have a buddy that's huge hold me down for @ least an hour prolly longer, bad time no more for me.

Shrooms though... fuck yeah. Done them many times and each one got better w/ no anxiety or freaking out. Stared at a wall for 4 hours once cause a 'bug' was spelling shit for me... it was just a nail hole. :o

I have MANY head probs. depression, anxiety, and I think a bit of shizo to keep life interesting, and though cid fucked me up, shrooms made me feel great w/o the bad effects.

If ya ain't used to them tho, start small. One or two caps and a stem or two will work wonders for a light trip, and will let you know any side effects that would be magnified @ larger doses.

Be Safe! Had a friend run around outside nekkid on dem shroomies hehe, took a picture of him humping a STOP sign. Wish I could find him now, blackmail is such a nice word.

EDIT: AND... try to have something around for nausea. That horrible shitty taste (literally if their good) and smell can make the toilet seem like god. Promethazine worked wonders for me! GL.

Nd

[SeVeN]

The ONLY time I dropped cid I flipped out, had to have a buddy that's huge hold me down for @ least an hour prolly longer, bad time no more for me.

Shrooms though... fuck yeah. Done them many times and each one got better w/ no anxiety or freaking out. Stared at a wall for 4 hours once cause a 'bug' was spelling shit for me... it was just a nail hole. :o

I have MANY head probs. depression, anxiety, and I think a bit of shizo to keep life interesting, and though cid fucked me up, shrooms made me feel great w/o the bad effects.

If ya ain't used to them tho, start small. One or two caps and a stem or two will work wonders for a light trip, and will let you know any side effects that would be magnified @ larger doses.

Be Safe! Had a friend run around outside nekkid on dem shroomies hehe, took a picture of him humping a STOP sign. Wish I could find him now, blackmail is such a nice word.

EDIT: AND... try to have something around for nausea. That horrible shitty taste (literally if their good) and smell can make the toilet seem like god. Promethazine worked wonders for me! GL.

Nd


Amen and remember that they can cause breathing problems too. I passed out once on shrooms.

[ndoftaworld]

Amen and remember that they can cause breathing problems too. I passed out once on shrooms.

:confused: Never realized that. Guess I WAS lucky cause I got hella breathing probs. (COPD)

Damn... a down side to my favorite psychedelic. Just blew my whole day :rolleyes:

Nd

[limitless_euphoria]

Actually wouldn't an SSRI stop the trip in its tracks? Antipsychotics inhibit the release of dopamine therefore it's quite possible they would negate the effects of too much coke. I could be wrong. Acid is a lot of fun but there can be consequences from frequent and/or overuse. Kind of like pot, there's not so much a physiological dependence as there is a psychological affinity for the whole experience. Just be careful, that's all.

[xxanxx]

i used to have a good relationship with LSD. It's too imposing now. i feel like it used to take care of or/care about me. last trip i had it "turned on me" is the best way i can put it. but i know in the back of my mind it was the front of my mind, not the drug. i like to be in control nowadays. i wouldn't even do it if it lasted 30 mins let alone 10 hours. and the peaking.. shit.

i used to be able to let go and "go with it" the last trip i had in 1996, i fought all the way. i had to take alot of valium. i honestly believe that three years of having panic attacks was due to all of the mindbending i did in high school. I don't regret the times i had though. just the after effects. No more hallucinagens for this person.

You said it.

[ndoftaworld]

Gettin' my kpins filled today :D

Good day it gonna be!!

Nd

[PiLL CLiNToN]

X,Mushies,Molly and PCP always caused me great aniexty with the trip i was " tweeked" out because i am a xanax/klonopin user daily too so it always caused be great aniexty personally.

[Ludakris]

I've never had consistant experiences with anything except X. I used to do a lot of it, not a whole lot, but like twice a week for a while. I only had a panic attack once with X, and luckily a good friend of mine was able to bring me out of it and it ended up being one of the best experiences of my life...

With shrooms, I used to LOVE them, it was one of those things that I loved to do, but didn't do very often. Not because I didn't want to, I just...didn't. Anyways, I do them like twice a year for a while, there are like, two main strains if I'm not mistaken and they give two very different experiences, both of which I enjoyed. Going on nature walks while tripping on shrooms was the best! That and watching movies, I'd get sooo phylosphical while watching movies on shrooms, heavily over-analyze every minute of them, it was good times.
The last time I did shrooms, they ended up being laced with acid which caused for several "mini" panic attacks. I'd have to keep reminding myself that "this isn't real and it will be over soon" luckily the guy I did them with was super cool and he'd notice when I started tripping out and help me calm down...except one time, he fucked with me, made me think the house was breathing!
It was to me, the last trip, I had it set in my mind that it was going to be my last trip. Acid/shrooms just seemed to get more unpredictable as I got older and I HATE feeling like I'm not in control of myself. So I got a good amount of these acid laced shrooms and stayed up all night with my friend. I've been offered them several times since, but turned them down...the heavy psychodelic shit just isn't for me anymore.

The other problem was that I never had anything to help calm me down if needed, except pot, which had varying effects.

My advice, if they are causeing panic attacks and bad trips just forget about them. To me there is nothing worse than a bad trip and the drugs themselves don't appeal to me very much anyways.

[ndoftaworld]

Hey y'all,

Only trippin' I've done is by American Airlines! Nah, only shroomies, but that's good enuf for me. If I can stay mellow, good atmosphere, friends, etc. than I can sit in exactly one spot for DAYS poppin' stems and caps staring @ the wall...

No panic tho... Definitely get it wit weed and dope, and that kinda confuses me. Not the dope, THAT shit'll make u aluminum foil ur windows 'cause "they" can see in!' But weed? Why does it cause anxiety, rapid heartbeat, etc. when it's a supposed depressant?

Oh well, off to smoke... Let ur imagination finish that sentence. :p

FO, Nd

[buc]

Swim has taken hundreds of acid trips. He started taking it as a teenager..........back when it was only a couple bucks a hit. Sometimes you could say he's having a "panic attack" after dosing.........other times he couldnt formulate the thought to light a match. None of that has ever stopped him. The crazy fucker is pushin' 50 and still fries from time to time.

[tch2296]

Like someone else said, I have a relationship with acid. Mine is still excellent. Personally, I take pride in being able to control myself and my mind. There have been times when the acid has turned on me, but I am always able to just relax - the key is not to fight with it, just go with the flow, roll with it, understand that it's all in your head and that it will be over soon.

I have seen many people flip out, on acid and shrooms, and it is very unpleasant to be around them. I HATE tripping when the other people are having a bad trip,I get bad vibes and it fucks shit up. I have had to calm many people down.

I still love acid. I have taken massive doses, I got a vial of liquid acid from Santa Cruz once, and absolutely loved it. I'd have people come into my room, pay me 10 bucks, and I'd just put a drop of it on their hand (it was in a visine bottle) and they'd lick it off, and TRIP BALLS.

I took 6 drops once, it must have been at least 1000 mics, I was puking for an hour when it started, cuz I was also withdrawing from opiates at the same time (not the best time to trip), but I just laid on the couch and had an amazing time exploring my mind. LSD is such a beautiful chemical.

When I take LSD now I like to take it by myself, because whenever I take it with other people (except the most chill and relaxed people), they get crazy, often have a bad trip, and piss me off. I usually just chill with my friends, they know I'm tripping, and I have a great time. Never had a really bad trip that made me not wanna take shit again.

[buc]

Like someone else said, I have a relationship with acid. Mine is still excellent. Personally, I take pride in being able to control myself and my mind. There have been times when the acid has turned on me, but I am always able to just relax - the key is not to fight with it, just go with the flow, roll with it, understand that it's all in your head and that it will be over soon.

I have seen many people flip out, on acid and shrooms, and it is very unpleasant to be around them. I HATE tripping when the other people are having a bad trip,I get bad vibes and it fucks shit up. I have had to calm many people down.

I still love acid. I have taken massive doses, I got a vial of liquid acid from Santa Cruz once, and absolutely loved it. I'd have people come into my room, pay me 10 bucks, and I'd just put a drop of it on their hand (it was in a visine bottle) and they'd lick it off, and TRIP BALLS.

I took 6 drops once, it must have been at least 1000 mics, I was puking for an hour when it started, cuz I was also withdrawing from opiates at the same time (not the best time to trip), but I just laid on the couch and had an amazing time exploring my mind. LSD is such a beautiful chemical.

When I take LSD now I like to take it by myself, because whenever I take it with other people (except the most chill and relaxed people), they get crazy, often have a bad trip, and piss me off. I usually just chill with my friends, they know I'm tripping, and I have a great time. Never had a really bad trip that made me not wanna take shit again.
Swim agrees........tripping with others can be a drag. Swim takes it and goes about his business.........He doesn't share the news. Seeing others act out while tripping ruins his fry.

[libertine]

I once shot up on DOB , psychedelic with an amphetamine molecule, and I fell asleep for a few hours and woke up tripping, weird.

I also took an eighth of really good mush and had the worst time of my life, I think it all depends on your mindset before you take them. I forgot I took them because I had always done that in the past and always tripped much harder, but this time I just freaked out, yelling, idle treats of suicide, general insanity, at the onset which was slow and hard, everything turned yellow, the walls, my friends, the bathroom, everything, I thought, that's it, I've done it, finally fucked up my brain completely with all this ecstasy... I didn't even take any tabs... shrooms are definitely very powerful if you aren't ready for them, but also can be amazing:D

LSD is a different story, I love that shit. Never a bad experience

[tch2296]

I love shrooms, they have a more "natural" feel but there is kinda something sinister about them. When you're having bad trips I often really just feel poisoned - it's weird. It is a poisonous mushroom that happens to produce psychadelic effects, which helped animals to learn to not eat these mushrooms, otherwise they'd feel terrible.

I think LSD has a cleaner, more vivid, and more eye-opening aspect to it and that is why I prefer LSD over mushrooms, even though I like mushroom. Never had a mad trip, last time I ate 10 grams crushed and put into peanut butter, adn ate the sandwich with 2 hits of ecstasy. Crazy shit, awesome feeling.

Never had a bad trip, even when I'm really depressed or anxious. I've eve tripped balls while dopesick without problems, in fact it made me feel better for a little while.

[Top Secret]

I've never had consistant experiences with anything except X. I used to do a lot of it, not a whole lot, but like twice a week for a while. I only had a panic attack once with X, and luckily a good friend of mine was able to bring me out of it and it ended up being one of the best experiences of my life...

With shrooms, I used to LOVE them, it was one of those things that I loved to do, but didn't do very often. Not because I didn't want to, I just...didn't. Anyways, I do them like twice a year for a while, there are like, two main strains if I'm not mistaken and they give two very different experiences, both of which I enjoyed. Going on nature walks while tripping on shrooms was the best! That and watching movies, I'd get sooo phylosphical while watching movies on shrooms, heavily over-analyze every minute of them, it was good times.
The last time I did shrooms, they ended up being laced with acid which caused for several "mini" panic attacks. I'd have to keep reminding myself that "this isn't real and it will be over soon" luckily the guy I did them with was super cool and he'd notice when I started tripping out and help me calm down...except one time, he fucked with me, made me think the house was breathing!
It was to me, the last trip, I had it set in my mind that it was going to be my last trip. Acid/shrooms just seemed to get more unpredictable as I got older and I HATE feeling like I'm not in control of myself. So I got a good amount of these acid laced shrooms and stayed up all night with my friend. I've been offered them several times since, but turned them down...the heavy psychodelic shit just isn't for me anymore.

The other problem was that I never had anything to help calm me down if needed, except pot, which had varying effects.

My advice, if they are causeing panic attacks and bad trips just forget about them. To me there is nothing worse than a bad trip and the drugs themselves don't appeal to me very much anyways.

I don't mean to burst your bubble Luda, but there are no such thing as "acid laced shrooms." Unless someone came w/ a Visine bottle full of acid and dropped like one or two drops on each stem or cap, there really is no way one can lace shroms w/ acid.

On a different note, anyone here ever try DMT? I smoked it for the first time about a week ago and it was awesome! I had such a good time. I used to do plenty of shrooms and acid years ago, but I kinda grew out of it. I thought that I would never trip out again until I did the DMT. It only lasts like 10 minutes but you are higher than you could ever be on shrooms/acid. DMT is the chemical your brain releases right before you die, if that give you any indication about how euphoric it is. I highly recommend it for those who like to trip...it's a great time. B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L and very unique visuals unlike any lsd/psilocybin visuals!

[libertine]

I definitely know what you mean tch, with shrooms I feel weighed down and heavy, to walk feels i have lead boots on, but acid has always been much more christ-like and energetic, clean and sinister are two perfect words to describe their differences haha

I've alwaysss wanted to try DMT, I would rather score for DMT than any other opiate, albeit once...

It is also released when you sleep and is supposed to be the factor in the production of dreams. If I ever got a hold of some in its crystalline form, I don't think I could convince myself not to bang it, llol

[tch2296]

I definitely know what you mean tch, with shrooms I feel weighed down and heavy, to walk feels i have lead boots on, but acid has always been much more christ-like and energetic, clean and sinister are two perfect words to describe their differences haha

I've alwaysss wanted to try DMT, I would rather score for DMT than any other opiate, albeit once...

It is also released when you sleep and is supposed to be the factor in the production of dreams. If I ever got a hold of some in its crystalline form, I don't think I could convince myself not to bang it, llol

I've smoked it, it's fucking amazing. Supposedly DMT is also released in massive amounts right before you die - which causes all those near-death experiences people report after being resuscitated. Your life flashes before your eyes because your tripping sack!

[Shadowsblaze]

I have had mostly miner panic attacks, brief moments dealing with people litterly holding and freaking when cops are around or just what I perceive as strange looks from people. But one time I scored a hit of green speck about the size of an aspirin with little specks of black within. An I figured that they were crumbling because the were all individually wrapped in tinfoil. Well friend and I were going to trip this Friday so we each opened one to start the show and mine was solid black. It was odd so we decided to split this one and his as well. One hour later we had to leave a pizza joint and went under a bridge we could not see to walk. The visuals kept piling up on top of one another coming at us from everthing in our site. We had to sit real close to one another as our faces were clowny or monstrous and we wanted to make sure we had some semblance of reality. We left the lake 24 hours later when it was dark again and could face people. What a trip I have done six at a time but this was the most intense and I wouldn't want another like it. Later.

[PiLL CLiNToN]

I love shrooms, they have a more "natural" feel but there is kinda something sinister about them. When you're having bad trips I often really just feel poisoned - it's weird. It is a poisonous mushroom that happens to produce psychadelic effects, which helped animals to learn to not eat these mushrooms, otherwise they'd feel terrible.

I think LSD has a cleaner, more vivid, and more eye-opening aspect to it and that is why I prefer LSD over mushrooms, even though I like mushroom. Never had a mad trip, last time I ate 10 grams crushed and put into peanut butter, adn ate the sandwich with 2 hits of ecstasy. Crazy shit, awesome feeling.

Never had a bad trip, even when I'm really depressed or anxious. I've eve tripped balls while dopesick without problems, in fact it made me feel better for a little while.

Co-signage....Got A-FUCKINGAMAZING! visuals from some got in january right afta xmas WOW it was the headdddyest trip ever better than any cid tab ive taken....rumor has it phsyobin has been laced with acid so who knows these days....

[buc]

I don't mean to burst your bubble Luda, but there are no such thing as "acid laced shrooms." Unless someone came w/ a Visine bottle full of acid and dropped like one or two drops on each stem or cap, there really is no way one can lace shroms w/ acid.

On a different note, anyone here ever try DMT? I smoked it for the first time about a week ago and it was awesome! I had such a good time. I used to do plenty of shrooms and acid years ago, but I kinda grew out of it. I thought that I would never trip out again until I did the DMT. It only lasts like 10 minutes but you are higher than you could ever be on shrooms/acid. DMT is the chemical your brain releases right before you die, if that give you any indication about how euphoric it is. I highly recommend it for those who like to trip...it's a great time. B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L and very unique visuals unlike any lsd/psilocybin visuals!
Toad venom is natures DMT supplier..........Take your toad.......press his back gently against a mirror to encourage him to release his venom........a bitter milky white stuff........allow it to dry on the mirror......scrap of with a razor.........use a small amount to top off a bowl of your favorite herb.......enjoy. Don't forget to return your toad friend to the wild.......if you've treated him with respect he'll be fine..........Swim has done this with toads in So. Cal. and Texas. Grace Slick has said that if the onset of an acid trip can be compared to the blast of a fireworks explosion then DMT can be compared to being slowly squeezed out of a tube of toothpaste.

[Restharrow]

This is 30 year old experience, but a lot of my friends 1960's early 1970's, would NOT trip unless Valium was available and EVERY trip ended with valium.

Not knowing how todays physchec. drugs compare to 30 years ago, I always try and warn that my experience is way out of date in that dept.

Will

[tch2296]

It's still the same shit, except the "hits" of acid are usually around 100 mcg rather than back in the 60s and 70s when the standard was closer to 250 mcg. I always had valium on hand for my trips, because I was always prescribed benzos. It definitely made the end of the trip easier to handle.

[buc]

This is 30 year old experience, but a lot of my friends 1960's early 1970's, would NOT trip unless Valium was available and EVERY trip ended with valium.

Not knowing how todays physchec. drugs compare to 30 years ago, I always try and warn that my experience is way out of date in that dept.

Will
The single doses swim used to take thirty years ago were much more intense than the doses he's taken in the past several years. Larger doses applied back then than nowadays.........He don't know. But if you take enough of todays acid..... guess what........You'll be tripping like its 1977.

[sky1983]

Usually about 30 minutes after I dose, whether it be mushrooms or L, I get that anxiety panicky thing for about 20 minutes until I am into my trip. The first time I ever tripped, I had a panic attack but was fine after about 10 or 15 minutes and had an amazing time after that. I also prefer being alone.

[tch2296]

The single doses swim used to take thirty years ago were much more intense than the doses he's taken in the past several years. Larger doses applied back then than nowadays.........He don't know. But if you take enough of todays acid..... guess what........You'll be tripping like its 1977.

Yeah, that's what I was sayin. A standard hit nowadays is anywhere from 5x-2x weaker than a hit from 1969 (a White Lightning or Orange Sunshine, for example). I wish I was around back then.

My dad was 21 years old in 1969 and never took a drug in his life... I'll never understand him

[Shadowsblaze]

Yea, you did an orange barrel back in 69 you knew you were headed to cartoon land.

[resorcinol]

When I tried shrooms I was high on poppy pod tea too (REALLY high, double my usual dose) and I had a blast.

I don't think I could handle it without an anxiolytic substance in my system alongside the psychadelic, preferably in high doses.

[SHELLEY]

as someone with severe mental whatever
i recommend you stay the fuck away from ALL hallucinogens
it's not druggie law that you like to trip
i'd rather be sober for the rest of my life than experience acid/shrooms/pcp again

[Raz]

get on dis one...1st real proper full dose of acid i ever had was when banged up in jail,lookin at some serious time....But da trip went ok...My cell mate was goin to me "look in the mirror"..."Yeah bolloxs to dat shit, i'll take some self analysis when i;m straight"......he was tryin to get me on a freaker, so i smoked all his hash in one night and woke up wiv blisters on ma fingers from burnin so much hash...

Took it another time in jail, not long after a friend of mine commited suicide in the same nick....Man i fuckin got on dis heavy metal fuckin rift on the radio and it fucked ma trip,it kinda went "nrrggnn nrrgnnn nrggnnn, fuckin shit music and after dat i couldnt get my mates suicide outta ma head....Kept bouncin up off my single cell bed, lookin at the window bars that he hung himself from, sayin to myself "fuck dat shit".....

So no desire to trip since then....But i'm fuckin def tryin it when i fuck dis opi habit off, just outta curioisty....See if i come back some fuckin blithering idiot...:o

[Chipper]

Did you know that acid is actually anti-addictive? The more you take, the less you want to take until you eventually stop.

[feelings of u4ia]

Any kind of hallucinogen makes me flip the fuck out. I spend the whole time wishing I NEVER took it. I just can't handle it. Shit gets way to weird, and I can't just let go and have fun.

Same with Marijuana. Everytime I smoke weed, even one hit of the shittiest pot you have ever seen, I have a panic attack and feel like I am going to die for an hour. I feel like I can't breathe and shit.

It sucks.

I still have opiates at least.

[digby]

Did you know that acid is actually anti-addictive? The more you take, the less you want to take until you eventually stop.

Where did that tid-bit of information come from? Sorry Chipper, but that is simply not true.


As for the panic attack thing - the only trip that actually started to go bad for me back in the 60's was caused by getting caught in a minor rip tide one afternoon while swimming in the ocean. Feeling the current pulling me out put me into the beginning of that fear thing, which isn't so good while tripping. When I made it closer to shore, the current was still pulling the sand out from under my feet and still trying to pull me out.

Needless to say, I started getting bummed. Nothing really major, but things had gotten really dark and depressing. So we drove back to my place, where I proceeded to drop another tab of Owsley and kick back with friends and some good music and things were groovin' again. Bad trip simply evaporated.

[hovadagod]

I didn't read the thread but willl offer advice anyways. 1) Don't trip around other people who aren't also tripping. 2) Don't trip alone. 3) Don't trip with people you don't completely trust and know. 4) Don't trip when you have other responsibilities (turn off your cell phone etc). If you can't fulfill all of the rigorous requirements mentioned, like if you don't have any friends or something, then don't trip at all. JMO.

[ndoftaworld]

Where did that tid-bit of information come from? Sorry Chipper, but that is simply not true.

Maybe he means that the more you take, the more you start to hate it, and therefore, want to take less? I stay away from 'cid, shrooms are my trip of choice :D. Same rules apply tho - gotta be comfortable with people you know around, and don't plan on doing anything 'constructive' cause I'd hate to see the results of a shroomed-out project, haha.

Nd

[underide]

2) Don't trip alone.
3) Don't trip with people you don't completely trust and know.

"don't trip alone"...
I've had some very cool times doing just that, but on the other hand i would agree that mostly, good company can be preferable while tripping, simply because it's more fun that way

I do agree that it can be a bit of a bad buzz, to be tripping somewhere "with people you don't trust", but that's where that 'set and setting' rule comes in to play

Cold is always a bring-down while tripping too, at least for me
And if you are a control freak at heart you definitely best to stay away from mushrooms and especially some good LSD

Other than that i don't think there are any 'set rules' to tripping and knowing whether you will have a good night or end up going a bit too deep into yourself for your own comfort
Even good trustworthy company cannot prevent some negative self-absorption at times.
But even when that had happened to me i always seemed to ride it out without flipping out (at least externally)

I think that overall most of the experiences i've had while tripping were positive ones, and i still have a lot of fond memories of them.
Its a pity that it's tough getting hold of acid here nowadays, although it does appear once in a blue moon.
Mushrooms are still here every autumn though