Summer detox

[Opiyum]

So I have been planing on discontinuing my use of suboxone (and all other opiates) this summer for some time now. Now here I am, it's summer, and I'm not terribly excited about life. July isn't going to work because of a move and I have a big welding test mid july that I am preparing for. So it's looking to me like it's going to be august.
So I have begun lowering my dose of subs and have doing my best not to use at all in between appointments with some success. I am now at 1mg in the morning and 1mg at night and think that's about as far as I'm going to go.
My plan, thus far, is to ween down to as little as possible on the subs and come august I will stop using them all together. At which point I'm going to go on a one to two week binge of mostly oxy but most likely some Heroin because of cost. Once that runs out Im going to just kick like I used to in the old days. I kicked bupe once and didn't much like it. I can deal with three or four intense days of WD's if it means Im not in mild WD's for a month and Im hoping to avoid that by doing this. The only thing I haven't decided on is whether I am going to check into a rehab for the detox or if I'm going to just do it myself at my house.
If I were to go to rehab I would only stay for the detox itself and then possibly a week doing the group thing. After that I would try to go a little vacation or camping trip and hope that after that week I would be ready to go back to work when it becomes available come the beggining of september.

This is normally how I operate, with all the planning ahead that is, and I hope I can follow it for the most part. I'm not worried about not being able to stop the binge after it starts. I simply won't be able to afford to keep going and am not in a mind set in which I will shoot myself out of house and home. I think I'm past that at least for the time being. I very commited to a year or two of little to absolutely no opiate use.
So I wonder what if anything people think of this plan and whether avoiding the bupe detox will work with a two week binge with a full agonist?

[upstate_007]

So I wonder what if anything people think of this plan and whether avoiding the bupe detox will work with a two week binge with a full agonist?

Admittedly, I don't know a whole lot about bupe, but it sounds like a pretty good plan to me. The hardest part will probably be putting down the oxy or H when it's time to quit everything. But, if you have the resolve (which it sounds as if you do), it can be done.

Best of luck to you though. I hope you can do it!

[Woody Bear]

I can see your point from the wanting to withdrawal from Oxy or heroin rather then bupe. But the way you're planning it would be pretty severe. You've already made the step from cutting down you're bupe dosage, so if you can switch over to Oxy or heroin and gradually cut down, then you should do ok.

So instead of going on a binge, after you come off the bupe tough it out, and if things get really bad, take a tiny amount, like 5 mg Oxy or 1/4 bag heroin. Only use enough to take away some of the worst symptoms, then wait 8 hours before having any more. So use in the morning, afternoon and before bed. Then after a week, cut down to only using twice a day. On the third week only use once a week. And after that stop taking anything.

That will be a gradual reduction. The thing is that what ever you do will cause some discomfort, but by gradually reducing your dose, the withdrawal symptoms won't be so bad. You could do it quicker, but the bupe will stay in your system for a while, that's why you get mild withdrawal symptoms for a month when come off long half-life drugs like bupe or methadone. By switching over to a full agonist opiate and gradually reducing it, you're providing additional opiates on your receptors. So when the month is out, and all the bupe has left your system, you've only got a short drop with the Oxy or heroin. And because you'd be on a low dosage, it would be a very mild and quick withdrawal.

You definitely won't be feeling your best that month, but you'd be feeling better then if you were in month long bupe withdrawal, and at the end of it, you'd only have 3-4 days of mild misery.

[Duckfeet]

Good luck. Me, I always want to detox...untl I did...then all of a sudden it made a lot more sense to get loaded...the toughest last thing that I had to learn as a junky was that I had an "inconsistent brain..." I know, I know, doesn't sound like very much to learn....

[HistoryofMadness]

don't do it with a flaw so looming you actually say "i'm afraid... etc etc"

or at least mitigate that risk. in other words, have a plan b in case you can't stop the binge.

[rockbottom]

actually sounds good to me. but im from a methadone viewpoint never had bupe. much easier to quit a small herion binge than quit methadone. so i assume subs might be the same GOODLUCK with your plan---stick to the plan--- i love plans, especially when they come together:rolleyes:

you know this is all relatively speaking being sick really really sucks but id rather have a more intense -shorter sick than a very long slow sick. and if you can get your hands on some sleeping pills seroquel, elevil , xanax whatever, you can sleep away a short sick.