oxy's effect on sex? help needed

[DarthPerineum]

Hey guys.. um its been a little over a year since ive posted on the site. A little background i was a rec user of oxy for a little over 4 years. about 10 months ago my addiction got really bad and my usage went through the roof. I hit bottom lost everything my friends, my job, my girlfriend and most of my family. This coming sunday is my last day attending the local clinic and ive been clean for only 3 months but i feel like it is a huge step for me no matter how short a time its been. My intentions are to stay clean(of course) and im feeling rather positive about it.


My question is can anyone help me locate some info, or enlighten me if you have the answers yourself, on oxy's effect on sex. Reason being is that now that im clean and im not using things arent working the way they used to be before and during my usage. I dont know if this is a common problem or if its not even the drugs and its just me. This is a pretty sensitive topic, obviously, for me and im trying to find specific information on google but i can only find general info on opiates etc...




i really appreciate any and all help anyone can offer me and thank you in advance.

[ZodiacKiller]

Hey, wondered where you went to.....glad you're back. That avatar of yours is still creepy to me, heh....;)

Anyway, friend, there has recently been a bunch of new threads about your topic, and of course a zillion old ones. I'm not bitching at ya to UTMFSE, but you might find a search helpful. And you may not get as many responses as you'd like in this thread, sorry to say......but, then again, who knows?

Good luck, and welcome back!


ZK

[tasteuvheaven]

Things are a little opposite with me. Before I was taking the oxys I had a normal sex drive and had no issues while having sex. When I started taking my percs and oxys I had no sex drive whatso ever. Sometimes I suppose I would want to have sex, but it would take forever to get into it, and take forever for it to end. It began to be pointless that's why I'm assuming I lost my drive. I have recently pulled myself off of my meds and my sex drive is completely thru the roof. Way higher then ever before. I just assumed my body was trying to make up for the time where I didn't wanna or couldn't have sex. I agree that info on this would be useful.

[DarthPerineum]

hey zodiac long time no see! thanks ill look through the search as well.


Ya, taste my situation is really frustrating. While using i couldnt get enough sex! Not only was it often but more often than not i would not be able to finish. resulting in hours of heated sex especially while under the influence, but now not only do i not have the drive but when i do manage to get motivation i dont last longer than a few minutes at best. like i said its a very sensitive topic and i havent spoken to anyone about it with the exception of my original post. Does this sound unusual?

[tasteuvheaven]

Ya, taste my situation is really frustrating. While using i couldnt get enough sex! Not only was it often but more often than not i would not be able to finish. resulting in hours of heated sex especially while under the influence, but now not only do i not have the drive but when i do manage to get motivation i dont last longer than a few minutes at best. like i said its a very sensitive topic and i havent spoken to anyone about it with the exception of my original post. Does this sound unusual?

I think that's why I lost my sex drive while using. During the beginning of sex it was great, but like you said result in hours, which in the long run would only end up boring, and would frustrate me. I don't think it sounds unusual at all. My ex was the same way. I'm not sure if it was just him being down and out, trying to learn how to function with everyday life while not being high, or him being depressed. When your using it kind of blocks feelings and everyday stresses (besides the ones it creates) So we always assumed it was his body trying to get back into the swing of things. after a few months he would be ok. I haven't had the issue either, I told you how I have been since I stopped. (the complete opposite) Maybe men and women are different.

[frankie]

while i am currently using oxy's and percs i find my sex drive is very high but my bf has a dope dick and can't last for more than two minutes he is on norco's four times a day and has one oxy a day, i hope there is some hope for him in the near future as it putting a horrendous strain on our once great relationship...:(

[Ludakris]

Hey Darth...first and foremost, I just want to say congrats on taking these steps to get your life on track. 3 months may sound like a short period, but in my eyes and JST (Junky Standard Time). It's an eternity.

Second, have you been put on any antidepressants? I know that some (if not most) of them can cause a serious drop in sexual urges. Another thing you might consider is have you testosterone levels checked out by a doctor. A common side effect in long term opiate use is a drop in testosterone levels, if they are low, you can get hormone therapy to level them back out and quite often, you drive will come back.

I hope things get better for you...again, congrats for making it this far

[DarthPerineum]

I think that's why I lost my sex drive while using. During the beginning of sex it was great, but like you said result in hours, which in the long run would only end up boring, and would frustrate me. I don't think it sounds unusual at all. My ex was the same way. I'm not sure if it was just him being down and out, trying to learn how to function with everyday life while not being high, or him being depressed. When your using it kind of blocks feelings and everyday stresses (besides the ones it creates) So we always assumed it was his body trying to get back into the swing of things. after a few months he would be ok. I haven't had the issue either, I told you how I have been since I stopped. (the complete opposite) Maybe men and women are different.wow.. that makes alot of sense. i am finding it really difficult to cope with being sober all day everyday and i guess it wouldnt be out of the realm of possibility that it could affect me sexually.


while i am currently using oxy's and percs i find my sex drive is very high but my bf has a dope dick and can't last for more than two minutes he is on norco's four times a day and has one oxy a day, i hope there is some hope for him in the near future as it putting a horrendous strain on our once great relationship...:(ha.. dope dick. Ya.. sounds pretty similar to me except im not on anything. When i hit bottom like i said i lost my girlfriend of 3 years and while i was single my sex drive wasnt really an issue. Im currently talking to someone new and im sure the topic will come up soon. My ultimate fear is that we will get together or just hook up and my performance might effect her opinion on me.


Hey Darth...first and foremost, I just want to say congrats on taking these steps to get your life on track. 3 months may sound like a short period, but in my eyes and JST (Junky Standard Time).

Second, have you been put on any antidepressants? I know that some (if not most) of them can cause a serious drop in sexual urges. Another thing you might consider is have you testosterone levels checked out by a doctor. A common side effect in long term opiate use is a drop in testosterone levels, if they are low, you can get hormone therapy to level them back out and quite often, you drive will come back.

I hope things get better for you...again, congrats for making it this far
Thank you so much. It really means alot especially now that i wont be having the methadone to help keep me straight.

As for antidepressants, im not on anything. The only thing i use is i smoke weed but i really dont think that has anything at all to do with it. I smoked before and during my use and it never effected me. As for the doctor ive actually been resisting going over this issue becuase to be honest its really embarrassing but i think i will give him a call and mention this. I dont need to see some kind of drug related specialist? or can i just goto any ole doctor?

[Ludakris]

Thank you so much. It really means alot especially now that i wont be having the methadone to help keep me straight.

As for antidepressants, im not on anything. The only thing i use is i smoke weed but i really dont think that has anything at all to do with it. I smoked before and during my use and it never effected me. As for the doctor ive actually been resisting going over this issue becuase to be honest its really embarrassing but i think i will give him a call and mention this. I dont need to see some kind of drug related specialist? or can i just goto any ole doctor?

you shouldn't need to go to any kind of specialist. Just your regular doctor should be able to do the test, I have a good friend who was in a similar situation (and resisted going for about 18 mo's for the same reason, he was just too embarassed). But he finally went and asked the doctor about it and his regular doctor helped him out. He put him on a low dose anti-depressant and testosterone therapy and within about 4-6weeks he was doing SO much better. his wife and him hadn't had sex in like 3-4 years before that, and now they are happier than they've ever been.

Try not to feel bad about it, in all honesty, anything to make this life transition easier and more humane is nothing to be embarassed about.

[DarthPerineum]

you shouldn't need to go to any kind of specialist. Just your regular doctor should be able to do the test, I have a good friend who was in a similar situation (and resisted going for about 18 mo's for the same reason, he was just too embarassed). But he finally went and asked the doctor about it and his regular doctor helped him out. He put him on a low dose anti-depressant and testosterone therapy and within about 4-6weeks he was doing SO much better. his wife and him hadn't had sex in like 3-4 years before that, and now they are happier than they've ever been.

Try not to feel bad about it, in all honesty, anything to make this life transition easier and more humane is nothing to be embarassed about.

wow thats pretty intense. how long ago did your friend talk to his doctor? and are things still going positivly for him? you make alot of sense. i mean i really shouldnt be embarrassed to 'fix' my problems but i guess its not that uncommon for men to be shy when concerned in this area.

[HistoryofMadness]

ok first i'll preface by saying i haven't read everyone (read anyone's) response... although it isn't long, i'm lazy...

i believe your issue may be in your mind, first and foremost. lots of us never has sex (or did anything really) sober. i basically had to relearn how to do everything. sex included.

opiates take the edge (and more than that) off of anything anxiety might interfere with... hang with me for a minute... plus the dopamine levels in your head have to be pretty fucking low.. they are for a while after kicking... taking away the excitement of things...

here's my remedy:

1. wellbutrin is a GREAT additive for this specific effect of kicking. while most anti-depressants kill sex drive, this one JACKS IT UP... literally... if you catch my drift...

2. try the following 2 supplements - DHEA and L-Arginine... gooooogle them if you want, but trust me, they have positive effects from my personal experience.

3. RELAX. pills are only temporary and very much like band-aids... they won't do the work in your mind. the above cocktail should give you a bit of a boost but nothing works as well as confidence. learn relaxation techniques, and above all else, get out of your mind and into the moment.

disclaimer - i research all my own meds and don't have anything in the way of training other than personal experience. please research, talk to your doc, or whatever, and don't just take the advice of a looney old junky.

[Ludakris]

wow thats pretty intense. how long ago did your friend talk to his doctor? and are things still going positivly for him? you make alot of sense. i mean i really shouldnt be embarrassed to 'fix' my problems but i guess its not that uncommon for men to be shy when concerned in this area.


This happened a couple years ago. It was summer of '06 when he first went in to get tested and all. Him and his wife and two kids decided to move back home (to Idaho) at the end of '06. I talk to him about once a month now and he stills seems to be really happy (and his wife is too ;)). I think the medication (both anti-d's and testosterone) helped give him that kick start he needed to get moving and get his life on track because he's just had a much better outlook and attitude since then.

It might be worth a shot, you've got nothing to lose by just getting a test.

[DarthPerineum]

ok first i'll preface by saying i haven't read everyone (read anyone's) response... although it isn't long, i'm lazy...

i believe your issue may be in your mind, first and foremost. lots of us never has sex (or did anything really) sober. i basically had to relearn how to do everything. sex included.

opiates take the edge (and more than that) off of anything anxiety might interfere with... hang with me for a minute... plus the dopamine levels in your head have to be pretty fucking low.. they are for a while after kicking... taking away the excitement of things...

here's my remedy:

1. wellbutrin is a GREAT additive for this specific effect of kicking. while most anti-depressants kill sex drive, this one JACKS IT UP... literally... if you catch my drift...

2. try the following 2 supplements - DHEA and L-Arginine... gooooogle them if you want, but trust me, they have positive effects from my personal experience.

3. RELAX. pills are only temporary and very much like band-aids... they won't do the work in your mind. the above cocktail should give you a bit of a boost but nothing works as well as confidence. learn relaxation techniques, and above all else, get out of your mind and into the moment.

disclaimer - i research all my own meds and don't have anything in the way of training other than personal experience. please research, talk to your doc, or whatever, and don't just take the advice of a looney old junky.i guess before i start i should also mention that in the three months since ive kicked i have lost close to 50lbs. Its not that i think im fat(im 6'3 and at about 145 now) im just uninspired to eat. Could that also possibly play into this?

thank you so much for that. i think i will look into these and when i do get around to speaking to my doctor ill ask him how he feels about these. do you think that my problem may be actually be comming from the depression? it seems so wierd but at the same time i guess i can see that my overall well being could effect me like that.

This happened a couple years ago. It was summer of '06 when he first went in to get tested and all. Him and his wife and two kids decided to move back home (to Idaho) at the end of '06. I talk to him about once a month now and he stills seems to be really happy (and his wife is too ;)). I think the medication (both anti-d's and testosterone) helped give him that kick start he needed to get moving and get his life on track because he's just had a much better outlook and attitude since then.

It might be worth a shot, you've got nothing to lose by just getting a test.

amen to that. sounds promising and i think i will. its just a test after all. thank you so much for the advice

[RxQueen]

maybe i read this wrong, but are you still on methadone while having this problem? cuz it's a well-known libido killer. if you're still on it, that could be the whole problem right there. if i did read it wrong and you're already off the 'done, disregard this post and listen to the others here giving good advice!

[DarthPerineum]

ya im still on it. almost off though im on a detox program.

[Synack]

a year? really? wow.. I remember ya like it was yesterday..

Good luck getting off that detox...ie: not getting off drugs :p

[ndoftaworld]

Yep, I'm opposite ur prob. too. When I'm on (and just started especially, fuckin' lost a gf too!) it's so unpredictable, the WANT wasn't there and even if that showed up, who the hell knows if all parts would cooperate. Meaning-- could have been a 'one pump dump' or hours and hours ending badly w/ both of us sore as hell. i feel for ya dude, being off the shit and having probs.

I told my PA about this when first getting heavy into opies (percs... heavy HA!), and she prescribed Cymbalta, didn't do shit, made me feel even more worthless actually. I don't think it was my use/abuse that killed that relationship, I think it was my dive of self-respect/confidence when I lost my job/drive/interests/self.

I have read on here about low doses of testosterone while medicated, if ur doc would consider that, it might help...

Good luck man, many of us have been there (or still are in my case... :( ), so if nothing else, @ least you can take solice in knowing it's happening to your fellow ophiles too :rolleyes:

Nd

[duper]

One of the few things I dislike about OC:

I can go for an hour and not be able to bust a nut. It's kinda frustrating.. eventually my girlfriend just tells me to stop because she can't go any longer.. in a way I guess that's good but it sucks for me.. as soon as it wears off I can get it up but it still takes longer as usual.. :(

[God_Albino]

before my pelvic muscles got all fucked up, oxy never really interfered with orgasm unless i was binging and drinking for a few days. on the other hand, it would only take a couple darvon/vics to completely tranquilize the elephant

[Young Professor]

Regular opiate use will slow production of T or testosterone. T is controlled by the pit. gland...It sends a signal to the nuts to make T. Opiates cause secondary male hypogonadism. However, it takes regular use for a noticeable drop in T. Narcotics effect your CNS, and any med that does so, is going to slow down about every bodily function, including your metabolism and T production. Your T can be measured via a blood test. My PM Doc was very upfront about it saying that most of his patients end up on HRT....He refers them to Urologists or Endos. IMO, Endos are more conservative (in general). Either is more than qualified to script HRT...So is your GP for that matter. It's a CIII med...Usually scripted for 6 months at a time (max by law).

Low T can be boosted via a script for Androgel...A clear gel rubbed on once a day. Shots work too, but are a pain in the ass (literally), IMO. Androgel is pure T and very safe as long as you have low T. The objective is to get you back to average or above average...Your levels are monitored via blood tests once or twice a year. Not a bad deal at all. In fact, low T can kill you....T protects your heart and your cardiovascular system. Do a search and you'll find all you want to know and then some.

Back to the subject...Opiates cause low T, which causes low sex drive, and possibly erection problems. Stopping opiates will re-start everything, but it takes a little time. Drugs and T are proportional...The more you take, the lower your T. And ladies....you're not off the hook either. Women make T also, just not as much as men. Many women are on HRT as well.

I don't want to be too graphic, and I know it sounds immature, but the real measure of whether or not one has enough T is the frequency and hardness of morning erections. "Normal" men should get them practically daily, and they should be hard...Like in uncomfortable hard. The absence of morning wood indicates a primary problem in male orientation. Could be other issues as well such as prostate & etc.

Not only will HRT restore sexual function, but performance as well. Additionally, low T causes depression, cardiovascular problems, weight gain, and all kinds of funky shit. I would strongly suggest one google low T and do some basic research. I would also suggest joining a yahoo group...You can learn a bunch of stuff from others who have the same problem...It's called "hypogonadism" and the group @ yahoo is "hypogonadism2@yahoogroups.com." One has to join first of course. I learned a lot just by reading others posts. There are some MDs in the group that are pretty cool. Nothing like Docs themselves to help people along!

Lastly, if you do some good research, you'll also find that there seems to be a near epidemic problem of low T among young males....Something that has changed drastically in the last 10 yrs or so, Many theories are abound, but it's largely thought to be the result of pollution, chemicals in our food / water, and of course, all sorts of meds....Pain meds are some of the worst. The point being that Docs today are seeing men for low T for other issues beside narcotics....So, you are not alone. In fact, male HRT is one of the fastest growing medical trends today.

You can also try Ginkoba (not ginsing) or Yohimbe...Both are legal herbs purchased at a grocery store or health food store...may have to go the health store route to find Yohimbe. Both will increase your natural oxygen and blood levels to where you'll get good, hard erections. L-Arginine will help with sex drive and improve your load...500mg. Zinc will also help boost T...Need 50mg per day.

T supplementation works of course, and should be explored by any legitimate pain patient.

Hope this helps. It's been a Godsend to me.

YP

[ndoftaworld]

Regular opiate use will slow production of T or testosterone.

YP

I think it was one of your posts that I remembered, cause I stated about low T above. Not sure though, quite a few days/drugs ago...

Nd

[Young Professor]

I think it was one of your posts that I remembered, cause I stated about low T above. Not sure though, quite a few days/drugs ago...


Yes, it was....In fact, I cut & pasted and re-posted. Thought either people could use a refresher, or new members would be interested. It's a very serious matter. I am on HRT and it's amazing the effect it has in reversing the effect of narcotics.

YP