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Tar_Baby
03-16-2006, 08:09 AM
I noticed that when I go on a cocaine bender ( not that I do very much as Im first and foremost a heroin person) I .damn near feel dopesick when I get all gakked out
Then I have horrible depression for about 3 hours~ does it do that to yall as well? Or is my brain just wired wrong? I could swear coke strips m.e of opiates and thats when .I dose early am .and do coke later that night
(ignore the random punctuation m.arks my .k boards fuck.ed

antony
03-16-2006, 10:01 AM
Thats why only get coked up on rare occasions. the next day, my whole body aches, and I'm also depressed as hell. I think maybe it's cuz we were prewired into thinking coke is the worst shit in the world along time ago. dunno, besides the hangover from it, nothing is worse then what is metioned above from the shit.

Paregoric Kid
03-16-2006, 10:43 AM
cocaine causes methadone to be eliminated from the body a little faster. cocaine also causes changes in the opioid pathways, there is some information on this just google cocaine and opioid receptors. I've heard that cocaine causes your brain to make more opiate receptors meaning you'd need to take more opioids to fill them all, but I've never read any scientific papers that confirm that rumor.
I don't do coke without methadone or some other good opioid, otherwise I just feel sick and tired after the coke wears off. I don't do coke much cause it's usually cut to hell and expensive too. though I have a few cokehead friends that hook me up once in a while :D

HistoryofMadness
03-16-2006, 12:21 PM
Fuck yeah this happens to me... I think that coming off of coke is basically a rapid WD (that's where depression and compulsion for more come in). It does trigger the same reward pathways in your brain and therefore some of the WD are the same. Basically to me coke WD is a lot like a mild heroin WD...

Just to let you know you're not alone... fucking sucks to be a dope head and get coked without some opiates to come down.

psychotiKK
03-16-2006, 02:40 PM
cocaine causes methadone to be eliminated from the body a little faster. cocaine also causes changes in the opioid pathways, there is some information on this just google cocaine and opioid receptors. I've heard that cocaine causes your brain to make more opiate receptors meaning you'd need to take more opioids to fill them all, but I've never read any scientific papers that confirm that rumor.
I don't do coke without methadone or some other good opioid, otherwise I just feel sick and tired after the coke wears off. I don't do coke much cause it's usually cut to hell and expensive too. though I have a few cokehead friends that hook me up once in a while :D

Cokehead friends? Can't believe you used the same two words together like that. I found once my friends turn into coke fiends, they aren't my friends anymore. Last experience? Purchased an eighball.. it looked fine, but I pulled out my scale anyways. My "friend" says, "hey there's no reason to do that, it's straight believe me." Me - "the scale says you're wrong.. 2.45 .. I'm a gram short here." Did I get that gram back? No..

My "closer friend" asked to borrow .5g of my blow, and I kept saying no.. but he wouldn't stop bugging me and he said he promised to give me a gram of coke tomorrow in the afternoon for me. I didn't believe it but he wouldn't shut the fuck up and let me leave so I gave it to him. These guys were my friends.. and they did anything they could to try to rip me off. Oh well.. the first eightball I bought was 85 and I got 3.3g from it so that was fine.. then I got charged 65 next and only got 2.45 so it's not too bad but I got ripped according to what I was supposed to get..

ANYWAYS I've heard the same thing about coke and methadone.. and this is how I felt on coke + suboxone .. basically the suboxone seemed to not work as well when I came down.. and I would get horrible depression that I would cry.. if I kept it to small portions then it wouldnt be a problem.. but I did a 1/4 oz of blow in 4 days, hardly ate anything, haven't touched blow in years, and this stuff was good.

antony
03-16-2006, 02:45 PM
jesus...sorry to who ever i pissed off
i'd like for the person who dropped my points to explain to me what i did. Id say thats pretty fair

dissident
03-16-2006, 03:50 PM
yeah for sure, no coke unless theres some opiates before and after. otherwise it seems the coke eats up all the opiate goodness and then you deffinatly need some the next day or while youre coming down...

THEPAINTER1960
03-16-2006, 05:15 PM
Whenever i do cocaine i always end up taping into my takeout bottles of methadone. Now that i started togo up on my dose i am losing that feeling of always wanting to do cocaine. In fact it has been about 1and a half months since i did any. I

shaunclo
03-16-2006, 06:21 PM
jesus...sorry to who ever i pissed off
i'd like for the person who dropped my points to explain to me what i did. Id say thats pretty fair

If you want to see who took your points away, you have to make a donation to Opiophile.org, otherwise I dont think the person will tell you. Dont take it so personally, points come and go (atleast for me).

ontario_opiophile
03-16-2006, 06:52 PM
Back in the day when I used to do cocaine I would feel very good but once it ran out I would go into a depression for a day, and I would become very paranoid and have hallucinations. I remember once I had 3.5 grams of cocaine, I did it all in one night and ended up totally out of my body. I was hallucinating so much when I had finished it off. I was just totally out of it. It makes me totally dillusional and nutty. Another time I sniffed up a few lines and went out to pick up a pizza and I ended up crying in the car. I just felt so depressed. Another time I had bought something like 15 pills of ecstacy and I partied all night with some friends, and one of them had some blow so I bought 3 grams of it, and went on a road trip alone up into northern ontario in a coked out crazy mood and I went to a Canadian tire store and lookedat the coke and took some E and i realized it had been cut with a bit of ritalin, cuz it had a light green tint to it and i knew the guy had ritalin so I just assumed it was pure ritalin and took a gram orally and i got so fucking high off that oral coke/ritalin mix. I ended up back at home like 12 hours later cuz I was just too bombed to explore anymore. And the day after that I realized it was mostly cocaine so I hadnt got gipped. I asked the guy about it later and he said he used a bit of ritalin to cut it. so meh anyways coke is lame. You get high for about 20 minutes and want more. I don't like having to redose all the time. What people need is an oral coke that lasts 6 hours or so. That would be superb. Oral coke is not bad. I tried it anothe time with really pure colombian coke that was a nice hard rock of 4 grams and the oral got me off so much. It was such a rush. I dont even know why but fuck it was intense. Still the eventual come down is too much for me. It's just too psychologically intense.

Tar_Baby
03-17-2006, 06:57 AM
Whenever i do cocaine i always end up taping into my takeout bottles of methadone. Now that i started togo up on my dose i am losing that feeling of always wanting to do cocaine. In fact it has been about 1and a half months since i did any. I

Im the same way, and all the sudden lately Im craving cocaine all the time, and I never really even liked it
Its a stupid drug, as far as drugs go~ overpriced~ and really doesnt have the euphoria methamps have
$100 methamps:= days of high
$100 cocaine = 2 hours
Anyway I think its the availablity, I live in texas so cocaines cheap here $ 65 for an 8 ball

Paregoric Kid
03-17-2006, 10:18 AM
cocaine has euphoria if you smoke it as crack or bang it but who wants to bang all the shit they cut it with. but you're right if a person is looking for a speed high that lasts and is worth the money methamphetamine, or dexedrine, is the way to go.

ontario_opiophile
03-17-2006, 06:56 PM
Cocaine is a waste of money to me. An 8 ball costs 240$ in Ottawa, Canada. lol. So, it's not exactly much fun. And 8 ball lasts a few hours or 1 night. It's not the most cost effective way to get high. Dexedrine is just as good for hanging out and drinking and partying. If cocaine lasted longer it would be a decent drug. I wouldnt do it either way but If I still did that crap, i would want a long actingcocaine more than methamph. I hate methamphetamine. It's pure evil. If you've dealt with it, then you already know that.

THEPAINTER1960
03-18-2006, 01:50 PM
I noticed that when I go on a cocaine bender ( not that I do very much as Im first and foremost a heroin person) I .damn near feel dopesick when I get all gakked out
Then I have horrible depression for about 3 hours~ does it do that to yall as well? Or is my brain just wired wrong? I could swear coke strips m.e of opiates and thats when .I dose early am .and do coke later that night
(ignore the random punctuation m.arks my .k boards fuck.ed
I agree 100% cocaine is one big waste of money. Thank God that it has been almost two months since i have done any. It just eats the shit out of my methadone. I always end up drinking down my dose that was supposed to be for tomorrow. Before that i went up on my dose i was on 100 millagrams i was using cocaine every week. I MEAN ACTUALLY CRAVING IT. Well i started going up in my dose i am currantly on 140 millagrams and i am losing that feeling. I hope i can keep it up becuase it has been a long ride on that C train i have been abusing that drug for over 25 years. Paranoid feelings no more. Peace.

antony
03-18-2006, 02:10 PM
Swim and his buddies did a bunch last night. He doesn't know why he does this to himself. Doing some shitty stuff thats full of speed, making his spine tense up, getting lock jaw, and finally falling asleep at 6am just to wake up at 730 to sit a work with a bad hangover, nothing to take the pain away. Hes so mad at himself
grrh! Antony Mad!


and in bad pain:(

Tar_Baby
03-18-2006, 11:26 PM
Swim and his buddies did a bunch last night. He doesn't know why he does this to himself. Doing some shitty stuff thats full of speed, making his spine tense up, getting lock jaw, and finally falling asleep at 6am just to wake up at 730 to sit a work with a bad hangover, nothing to take the pain away. Hes so mad at himself
grrh! Antony Mad!


and in bad pain:(
l~sums up the cocaine experience~ speed drugs are bullshit I hate them