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Coddfish
03-16-2006, 04:23 AM
I found this on line at http://www.aegismed.com/biblio.htm . Dozens of abstracts on experiements with methadone and opiate users. Very interesting. I did ultra rapid detox. Knew something was wrong.

J Toxicol Clin Toxicol 1999;37(1):43-50
Opiate detoxification under anaesthesia: no apparent benefit but suppression of thyroid hormones and risk of pulmonary and renal failure.
Pfab R, Hirtl C, Zilker T
Toxikologische Abteilung, Medizinische Klinik, Munchen, West Germany. rudi.pfab@t-online.de
INTRODUCTION: The new technique for opiate detoxification using anaesthesia and high, repetitive doses of opiate-antagonists claims to detoxify addicts without withdrawal symptoms within 24-48 hours. We studied the method with 12 opiate addicts (5 L-polamidone, 4 dihydrocodeine, 3 heroin), using general anaesthesia and the antagonists naloxone 0.5 mg/kg and naltrexone > 150 mg. Objective and subjective withdrawal symptoms were measured until urine was free of drugs and patients had no withdrawal symptoms. Thyroid hormones were measured before, during, and after the anaesthesia period. RESULTS: All patients had moderate to severe opiate withdrawal symptoms. No detoxification was finished within 48 hours. The dihydrocodeine subjects were compared with conventionally detoxified controls; no difference was seen. The method suppressed thyroid hormones TT3, TT4, and TSH. The study was terminated because of side effects: 1 pulmonary failure and 2 renal failures. All patients survived without sequelae. CONCLUSION: There is no obvious benefit from this method, whereas the risks are high.
Publication Types: Clinical trial
PMID: 10078159, UI: 99177885

HistoryofMadness
03-16-2006, 12:13 PM
I'm not surprised. I looked into this once, mostly out of curiosity, and found many stories of people suffering for weeks. How long did yours go on? I'm curious to hear more.

Coddfish
03-16-2006, 04:48 PM
I think I've told this before elsewhere, but. . . For a few hours after I woke up I felt ok, and then it hit. The following day I had to use a wheelchair in the airports on the way home. Didn't sleep AT ALL for 3 weeks, and then slowly got to where I could sleep a few hours over the next coupla months. And then one day, I just felt f'n awesome!;) That was 10 years ago. Still beatin' that monkey (or it's beatin' me). Lots of money and time down the tube. Experience can be expensive, though.

ontario_opiophile
03-16-2006, 07:03 PM
I've read alot of bad stuff about ultra-rapid detox. I would really research it if anyone is thinking of it. It's not a very nice process. It's basically paying to be knocked out for a while and then you wake up in horrible withdrawals.

blackdog
03-17-2006, 12:53 AM
nevermind them adult diapers give some bad rash's.i guess it depends. lol get it depends.haha thats a joke son. peace dadawgg:cool: