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Seedy
06-10-2008, 07:35 PM
http://omega.twoday.net/stories/282092/


^^ The pharmaceutiacl industry is basically just a money maker and has no interest in preventing or curing disease. Check out the links at the bottom of the page, it's pretty scary.

vv here it is for those of you who are too lazy to click on the link.
The Laws of the Pharmaceutical Industry (http://omega.twoday.net/stories/282092/)

The main principles governing the pharmaceutical “business with disease.” It is not in the financial interests of the pharmaceutical industry to prevent common diseases – the maintenance and expansion of diseases is a precondition for the financial growth of this industry.

1 The pharmaceutical industry is an investment industry driven by the profits of its shareholders. Improving human health is not the driving force of this industry.

2 The pharmaceutical investment industry was artificially created and strategically developed over an entire century by the same investment groups that control the global petrochemical and chemical industries.

3 The huge profits of the pharmaceutical industry are based on the patenting of new drugs. These patents essentially allow drug manufacturers to arbitrarily define the profits for their products.

4 The marketplace for the pharmaceutical industry is the human body – but only for as long as the body hosts diseases. Thus, maintaining and expanding diseases is a precondition for the growth of the pharmaceutical industry.

5 A key strategy to accomplish this goal is the development of drugs that merely mask symptoms while avoiding the curing or elimination of diseases.

This explains why most prescription drugs marketed today have no proven efficacy and merely target symptoms.

6 To further expand their pharmaceutical market, the drug companies are continuously looking for new applications (indications) for the use of drugs they already market. For example, Bayer’s pain pill Aspirin is now taken by 50 million healthy US citizens under the illusion it will prevent heart attacks.

7 Another key strategy to expand pharmaceutical markets is to cause new diseases with drugs. While merely masking symptoms short term, most of the prescription drugs taken by millions of patients today cause a multitude of new diseases as a result of their known long-term side effects. For example, all cholesterol-lowering drugs currently on the market are known to increase the risk of developing cancer – but only after the patient has been taking
the drug for several years.

8 The known deadly side effects of prescription drugs are the fourth leading cause of death in the industrialized world, surpassed only by the number of deaths from heart attacks, cancer and strokes (Journal of the American Medical Association,April 15, 1998). This fact is no surprise either, because drug patents are primarily issued for new synthetic molecules.

All synthetic molecules need to be detoxified and eliminated from the body, a system that frequently fails and results in an epidemic of severe and deadly side effects.

9 While the promotion and expansion of diseases increase the market of the pharmaceutical investment industry - prevention and root cause treatment of diseases decrease long-term profitability; therefore, they are avoided or even obstructed by this industry.

10 Worst of all, the eradication of diseases is by its very nature incompatible with and diametrically opposed to the interests of the pharmaceutical investment industry. The eradication of diseases now considered as potential drug markets will destroy billions of investment dollars and eventually will eliminate this entire industry.

11 Vitamins and other effective natural health therapies that optimize cellular metabolism threaten the pharmaceutical “business with disease” because they target the cellular cause of today’s most common diseases - and these natural substances cannot be patented.

12 Throughout the more than one hundred year existence of the pharmaceutical industry, vitamins and other essential nutrients, with defined functions as cofactors in cellular metabolism, have been the fiercest competition and the greatest threat to the long-term success of the pharmaceutical investment business.

13 Vitamins and other effective natural health therapies that effectively prevent diseases are incompatible with the very nature of the pharmaceutical “business with disease.”

14 To protect the strategic development of its investment business against the threat from effective, natural and non-patentable therapies, the pharmaceutical industry has – over an entire century - used the most unscrupulous methods, such as:

(1) Withholding life-saving health information from millions of people.

It is simply unacceptable that today so few know that the human body cannot produce vitamin C and lysine, two key molecules for connective tissue stability and disease prevention.

(2) Discrediting natural health therapies. The most common way is through global PR campaigns organized by the Pharma-Cartel that spread lies about the alleged side effects of natural substances – molecules that have been used by Nature for millennia.

(3) Banning by law the dissemination of information about natural health therapies. To that end, the pharmaceutical industry has placed its lobbyists in key political positions in key markets and leading drug export nations.

15 The pharmaceutical “business with disease” is the largest deception and fraud business in human history. The product “health” promised by drug companies is not delivered to millions of patients. Instead, the “products” most often delivered are the opposite: new diseases and frequently, death.

16) The survival of the pharmaceutical industry is dependent on the elimination by any means of effective natural health therapies. These natural and non-patentable therapies have become the treatment of choice for millions of people despite the combined economic, political and media opposition of the world’s largest investment industry.

WarmCyanide
06-10-2008, 07:44 PM
i dunno man i'm sure almost all of the members of the board of pfizer are on heart meds and viagra.
this list looks very subjective to me.

Woowoo
06-10-2008, 08:04 PM
There is more than one Pharmaceutical corporation. The conspiracy outlook on the industry presupposes that all of these corporations must work together, and do not compete. Otherwise, a small corporation with a cure to a widespread disease would happily market their cure and become wealthy in the process, without regards to the profit losses incurred by their competitors.

I'm no fan of Big Pharm, and I do not know for certain that the competition in the industry is as real as it looks; I'm just pointing out that this document has an unstated assumption that makes the entire thing click. Since it's unstated, I went ahead and stated it.

Seedy
06-10-2008, 08:10 PM
^^ Heart meds & viagra both treat the symptoms, as do most pharms. Sure the list is subjective but it seems pretty valid to me. Western medicine has always been about treating symptoms. The wholistic approach of eastern and "alternative" medicine treats the underlying cause of disease, which is definately not in the best interests of the multi billion dollar pharm industry.

nick
06-10-2008, 08:12 PM
I have issues with big pharma,but I have even more issues with "alternative" medicine.

Seedy
06-10-2008, 08:19 PM
^^ for sure, there's some crackpot "alternative medicine". I'm talking proper nutrition & herbal medicine, etc.

Woowoo
06-10-2008, 08:47 PM
Big Pharm is trying to suppress homeopathy! BASTAGES!!!

Seriously though, the moral here is, don't get sick. If you do, you're fuckt.

Somanax
06-10-2008, 09:39 PM
I'm fuct

I trust none of the drug rep's

And even fewer Pharmacist's

Not gonna cry ............much

Gonna google till I find what is .....

Supposedly the best choice /treatment plan

Till then I deal with it .............Albeit poorly :(

eveline
06-10-2008, 09:50 PM
I do think the pharmaceutical industry is way fucked up, but this article isn't very good. Let me try to go through point-by-point...

It's true that the pharma companies are in it for the profits, as they are companies. It's also true that it's more in their interest to develop a drug that people have to take long-term. But the implication that drug companies try to give people diseases they can then treat is way too conspiracy-theorist for me... and it's just not really plausible for people to be that concertedly evil. I'll concede closed-minded, but they really aren't sitting in a boardroom figuring out how to induce heart disease in the most people possible. (They are trying to convince people they had diseases they didn't know about, like ADHD, erectile dysfunction, high cholesterol (till recently this was a risk factor, not a disease), prediabetes (ditto), insomnia (OMG I have a "sleep disorder"? then it's OK to take a pill to knock me out instead of trying to figure out the cause), obesity (same, "it's not your fault, it's a disease, so take a pill")... and yeah, depression, even though that is my problem, heh... and so on... The new marketing tactics are "advocacy" websites for disease states that subtly mention "this drug that really helps a lot of people"... But educating patients about disease prevention isn't the pharma companies' job, it's the doctors'.)

Study drugs that might prevent or cure diseases probably get less funding than ones that just treat, but saying they are "avoiding the curing or elimination of diseases" is really misleading... it makes it sound like they already know how to design a drug to cure AIDS, or whatever, and are just keeping it under their (melon?) hats.

I agree with the article author about patents... A drug company has a monopoly for 20 years on a new drug. They're also allowed to patent ridiculous "new" drugs like extended-release forms of the same drug, different salts of the same drug that act exactly the same in the body, and active isomers of drugs that are going off-patent (Lexapro/Celexa, Nexium/Prilosec). But even if the pharma industry tries to promote this BS, lazy doctors whose continuing education consists of drug-rep lap-dances are also complicit.

This article was obviously written by an advocate of alternative medicine... They use the usual "all synthetic molecules need to be detoxified" stuff. Herbs and supplements aren't any safer or less foreign to the human body (with the possible exception of endogenous compounds), and most herbs that actually work have an active ingredient that if isolated would be called a drug (and could be patented, despite what the article states). "...all cholesterol-lowering drugs currently on the market are known to increase the risk of developing cancer – but only after the patient has been taking the drug for several years." It's talking about statins--for one thing, there are cholesterol-lowering drugs on the market besides statins, and for another it's not agreed-upon whether they increase cancer risk. A lot of the other technical statements are questionable or wrong too. There are two advantages to using herbs and dietary supplements, neither of which the article mentions: one, they can be put on the market much faster without studies and FDA approval, so you get cutting edge products (GHB anyone?)... and two, some of them have long histories of folk use so at least they're probably safe... buyer beware. But that goes for everything, and that's my conclusion: doctors and patients both need to be more educated, so the pharma industry can't pull any more fast ones on them.

Sorry for the rant, this is my thing. :p

Seedy
06-10-2008, 10:11 PM
^^ Good fucking rant :)

I'm just trying to educate myself & hopefully others. Any different views on this are welcome.

WarmCyanide
06-10-2008, 11:23 PM
I have issues with big pharma,but I have even more issues with "alternative" medicine.


absolute word!

xxanxx
06-28-2008, 11:05 AM
I have issues with big pharma,but I have even more issues with "alternative" medicine.
Indeed.

rockbottom
06-28-2008, 11:50 AM
all i know is if you look in the PDR many drugs list --action unknown- they dont know how it works-also side effects include death-