Kratom recipe / preparation...

[HistoryofMadness]

Recently got some kratom leaves from phytoextractum (great product by the way) and now I'm looking for some alternative ways of preparing or different recipes...

I usually just boil, maybe with lemon juice, a couple of times through and drink the tea (sometimes I mix it with other teas with good results)...

Anyone ever use alcohol? How does that work?

Also I have kept the leaf material from the tea I made yesterday and last night... is there anything else I can do with it? Boil again? Make brownies?

[HistoryofMadness]

OK, sorry guys, I just edited my user options to allow me to see longer than a month backwards, revisited the kratom subforum, and all my questions were answered.

But since I may be inadvertently fooling people into thinking they are going to see a kratom recipe, here's mine and I like it so far:

1. I boil the leaves (enter your dose here... I use about 5-8 grams I think) in a small pot for 10 mins., strain, and boil again.
2. In another pot I mix several 'pinches' of the following herbs: passion flower, valerian, german chamomille; I've also thrown (not all at the same time) in hibiscus (flavor), ginger (for nausea), and elder berries (for umm... 'irregularity'), and earl grey (flavor and caffeine) with mixed to good results.

3. I mix the 2 together... depending on how much water I use or how much I boil them down, I may have enough for two glasses-full.

4. I drink the first one down quickly, and wait.

If I used hibiscus, the second glass of tea can be chilled and then mixed with sprite or sierra mist for a decent-tasting inebriant.

Hope this helps someone somewhere down the road...

-H

[Canis aureus]

Mitras are well soluble in acetic acid, ethanol, chlorophrm, if I remember Merck right... So ethanol or little vinegar would be great; the taste of ethanol would mask a little of that of kratom. Never been drinking with vinegar, but acetate has been popular few years back.

[jacky]

I found substantial amounts of alkaloids in kratom even after boiling twice.

I started just eating the material ground up shaken in a bottle of juice or water.

If you do go the tea method, boil with 30% lemon/lime juice and water solution to strip all those alkaloids...OR, boil for a third time.

just started kratom after a few months of pods and other herbs. still podding around, but the kratom really seems to be knocking my tolerance down...woke up feeling great, no lethargy today.....plus kratom seems to stimulate bowel movements even with a morphine regimine intact.

another plus with kratom is that I notice no sexual side effects.

[HistoryofMadness]

AS for boiling again, seems to me that even 3 times wouldn't get all of them out. The hyberbolic curve, right? As the line approaches zero it extends further and further.

Nah, I save my twice-boiled leaves for either:
1. Fruit smoothie: I blend strawberries, bananas, OJ, apple juice, and ice together and throw the leaves in, or
2. I'm working on a poppy seed muffin recipe (:-) I'll let you know how that one turns out.

I've started making earl grey tea and freezing it for 'flavored' ice cubes for my smoothie.

And before anyone comments on the time it takes to do all this, let me just say its quicker and safer than some of the shit I used to go through when copping...

[Canis aureus]

Yes,

I eat kratom also... one could boil a soup (tastes great as used socks), but hell works...

[Zoop]

Jackie - kratom MAKES you shit?? That's unusual. I had the worst constipation when I was hooked on that shite.

Still do, AAMOF (hey that's my new "chat" acronym for 'as a matter of fact') from buprenorphine. Good old bisacodyl tablets, five of the 5mg tablets, and man, giant BM about 12-14 hours later! :) Why, just yesterday, I had the most wonderously delightful BM prompted by 25mg of bisacodyl. Changes your whole outlook on life. I know it's bad to keep taking strong stimulant laxatives, but shit (no pun intended), what's a brother to do? I take it every 3 days, and only have those little brown ball-shaped nuggets coming out in between doses of laxative. Perhaps I'll start taking a fiber laxative daily.

Hey, Canis Aureus, do you have bisacodyl in your country? - it's a strong laxative. I was just wondering.

What are the pharmaceuticals regulated like where you live, Canis, if you don't mind me asking?



OH, and also, AAMOF, I posted a thread about the newest issue of DEA Microgram, (March '06), and they have an article on kratom in there. Seems the DEA has their feelers out on that stuff. They had a thing on kratom in the "Microgram Bulletin" back sometime last year too. I hope it doesn't get scheduled. Would be a pity. But then again, salvia is still around and that's a really fucking strong drug and the DEA knows full well about it, there just isn't any interest in banning it. Hopefully, the congress-critters won't get excited about kratom. Unless some concerned citizens start writing congress about "my son, (or daughter or husband, wife, sister, brother...) is addicted to this nasty herbal supplement called kratom and it should be illegal"

[siggy]

Funny you say that, as I was thinking maybe that is what eased my constipation - I didn't know if it was the yard work I did this weekend or the couple of batches of tea I had with kratom. But, there was a definte "softening effect". How does one translate grams into teaspoons or tablespoons?

[Opiyum]

Never tried Kratom but I was just looking at a thread about using grapefruit juice for poppy tea as opposed to lemon. The grapefruit juice is supposed to work magic so I'm wondering if this would translate to Kratom. I would try myself but I'm a broke bastard and cant even afford the stamp for the letter to send the check in.

Also I like to know how to pronounce the drug I use or in this case will be using after my first paycheck. So how do you pronounce Kratom is it A as in how Canadians say eh? or is it A as in AAAAHHHH! you scared the shit out of me. Long or short.....pleassseeee.

[HistoryofMadness]

I asked the same question about grapfruit juice and was told 'no' but I have used gf juice anyway, because it covers the taste... I also thought at the time I had gotten some potentiation from the juice. So now I would say either I experienced the placebo effect, or I was given incorrect info. I say it does until further proof is offered. Please someone clarify.

As for the pronounciation, I was just wondering this myself. I use a long 'a' but who knows...? Perhaps this word is like 'tomato' and goes either way?

Sorry to basically answer 'I don't know' to both.

-H

[Zogledan]

First reply ever.
Kratom I believe is from Asia and in my experience Asian names and words when written in English are pronounced phonically.
Unlike welsh and old English words.My favorite is Monty Pythons Holy grail taunt from the French.
You don't frighten us, English pig-dog! Go and boil your bottoms,
son of a silly person. I blow my nose on you, so-called Arthur-king,
you and your silly English K...kaniggets.
KANIGGETS is the phonic pronunciation of the Old English word KNIGHTS

I think its short "a" in Kratom

[Opiyum]

It took awhile but I finally got an answer. I forgot I even asked it. No harm no foul
Thanks.

[lstar7]

last friday night I had freinds over and we had a fifth of Vodkie:) There was a cup or so left the next morning, so I put about 10 grams of green thai in a teapot, and covered with the vodkie:) I let it simmer for about 10 minutes, til the liquid was almost gone. I then added about 12 oz of water to it and boiled it for an additional 15 minutes. The resulting liquid had a vodka taste even tho the alkie had burned off, which was nasty to say the least, but I drank roughly half the juice, (5 grams) and peeps, I got wasted. Thats my story and Im stickin to it!

[HistoryofMadness]

last friday night I had freinds over and we had a fifth of Vodkie:) There was a cup or so left the next morning, so I put about 10 grams of green thai in a teapot, and covered with the vodkie:) I let it simmer for about 10 minutes, til the liquid was almost gone. I then added about 12 oz of water to it and boiled it for an additional 15 minutes. The resulting liquid had a vodka taste even tho the alkie had burned off, which was nasty to say the least, but I drank roughly half the juice, (5 grams) and peeps, I got wasted. Thats my story and Im stickin to it!

very cool. regular leaf? i'm trying it.

[lstar7]

regular leaf from The King, Mad:)

I have also read, and tried a tablespoon of vinegar added to the boil to help pull out the alkaloids... It seems to make a darker tea, so I am assuming it is beneficial.

[HistoryofMadness]

regular leaf from The King, Mad:)

I have also read, and tried a tablespoon of vinegar added to the boil to help pull out the alkaloids... It seems to make a darker tea, so I am assuming it is beneficial.

i just powder the leaf in a coffee bean grinder and chug-a-lug. i use phytoextractum because they charge the real shipping rate for shipping, and they're fast. they also have several things i like to get.

yeah you can skip all that boiling and vinegar-gagging and just chug. but you gotta stir for a few minutes, and have water going down with the kratom/water.

i put a half-mouthful of the kratom slush and the put a cup of water to my lips. as soon as i start to gulp, i drink a mouthful of water and it pushes the kratom down. and its more efficient.

[dilly]

yeah, I'm brand new. But could one of you guys tell me where you can get the stuff? And did I understand right - it helps with withdrawals (opiate)? If so, it what way? Thanks - I need the info!

[kyuss]

i just powder the leaf in a coffee bean grinder and chug-a-lug. i use phytoextractum because they charge the real shipping rate for shipping, and they're fast. they also have several things i like to get.

yeah you can skip all that boiling and vinegar-gagging and just chug. but you gotta stir for a few minutes, and have water going down with the kratom/water.

i put a half-mouthful of the kratom slush and the put a cup of water to my lips. as soon as i start to gulp, i drink a mouthful of water and it pushes the kratom down. and its more efficient.

I use the same
Method and supplier
unless they are out
of whole leaf then
I use The Kratom King

yeah, I'm brand new. But could one of you guys tell me where you can get the stuff? And did I understand right - it helps with withdrawals (opiate)? If so, it what way? Thanks - I need the info!

see my
post above
and google
phytoextractum
and Kratom King.
Try the whole leaf first
and invest in a coffee grinder

[orchidfanatic]

I make up about 10 grams and bring to boil with lemon juice and alchol if you have some.. wtih is with a liter of water .. yeah I know thata a lot .. when it comes to boil .. reduce to simmer and simmer for 1/2 hour.. volume is usally reduced in half.. STRAIN ! mix with lots of SUGAR cause this is some nasty bitter shit.. I like it warm like a hot tea not so much cold ..i repeat with the old leaves and do it all over again .. .. the one recipie I found somewhere is 50 grams with 2 liters of water boil then simmer for 1/2 hour .. strain .. diviide liquid into 3 or 4 doses they keep for a week in the fridge..
I tried eating power kratom .. like I do now with pods and GF juice .. kratom power makes me sick as a dog I would rather make tea out of it and strain through coffee filter.. effects last me about 3-4 hours.. good luck !!