View Full Version : OLD VA Morphine Sulphate SR's from 1990
oxydose
05-30-2008, 11:34 PM
Hey my buddy found a bottle of these things from 1990 while doing some remodeling work at a rent property (no one living there), they was in a big in a dry place, he said they "feel dry" but not crumbly. I looked up the pill to absolutely _NO_ eval, litterly nothing! The bottle says they are "30mg Morphine Sulphate SR". He said they are about the size of a Mallindokt Methadone 10mg (54 142's) and have no coating on them like SR/ERs these days have. So I was wondering if anyone had ANY information on these. They are white, round, NO score with only 54090 on them, like I mentioned in the title they are _VA_ medicines, so the imprint is most likely very obscure...
Also anyone have any expirence with meds _this_ old? No a bad buy at $30 for 120mg (4) i'd say right? I been just taking 20-30mg of Done lately and I've never had much morphine before. So you think the time release may be broken any way? I never seen a ER tab without a top coating like MSContin/OxyContin, so any ideas on breaking that time release?
roxi*stardust
05-31-2008, 10:24 AM
The 54 in the imprint indicates that the tablet is probably made by Roxanne Labs, most of their generics have 54 XXX imprints. 54 091 and 54 092 are Prednisone but I haven't come across a 54 090 yet. I'll keep checking
roxi*stardust
05-31-2008, 10:36 AM
https://www.roxane.com/tpPortal/appmanager/touchpoint/rli?_nfpb=true&rli_productcatalog_portlet_actionOverride=%2Fportl ets%2FProductCatalog%2FproductDetail&rli_productcatalog_portletprod_ndc=00054458325&_windowLabel=rli_productcatalog_portlet&_pageLabel=rli_allproducts_page
This is the current Roxane imprint for Morphine 30mg. That doesn't mean that it hasn't changed. See the 54 in the imprint is the identifying mark for Roxanne. All Roxanne drugs (and all other drugs dispensed in the USA) have an NDC number. Roxanne products are indentified by 0054, the first numbers in the NDC indicate that. Those first group of numbers identifies the company that produces the drug, the second group of numbers (usually 4 digits) in an NDC number would indentify the actual drug (these are not always the same as the imprint on the tablet or capsule, just a code to indentify it) and the last set of numbers (usually 2-4 digits) indentifies the package size. This is the current NDC number for them: 00054-4583-25 (for the blister packs of 25 tablets)
I could not find any info on that imprint, probably because it is old. You could call or email Roxanne Labs, since we established those tablets were made by them, and ask them if they are morphine; if the imprint and NDC # changed.
Sorry I couldn't help out more than that.
oxydose
05-31-2008, 11:29 AM
N/p at all, thanks for the information roxi, and all this time I thought 54 XXX where from Mallindokt.
Anyways the imprint is ACTUALLY 54 over 090, all on one side.. I still cannot find any information on this, but seeing the bottle and knowing this person very well and KNOWING he knows what a gd opiate feels like I'm just going to take them on his word.
Any opinion on the IV potential of these? Like I said they are the size of a 10mg Roxi round Methadone and has NO outter covering like MSContins/OxyContins do, and like I said the bottle says these are from late 1990 (and who knows how old they where then). Anyways does anyone have any expirence from Morphine Sulphate SR's from this time period, matching this description and possibly/most likely being a Roxanne product?
Anyways thanks for the help so far, sorry about having the first imprint # wrote wrong, my buddy was pretty noddy last nite when I was talking to him on the phone. Anywho if anything I guess I'll take 2 and make SURE they are MS before trying anything else with them. Btw they seem to have turned a bit tan looking, I'd _think_ they'd been white, but I'm not 100% sure, but like I said they where in the bottle in a bigger bag of other meds in a dark, dry and relatively cool room.
thanks, oCd
BTW roxi, I looked up the Predisone pill (no picture to be found though) and see it says that it is _scored_, these are NOT scored...
I-Nod
05-31-2008, 11:52 AM
I've always read if these pills (or most, if not all, opiates) were kept out of direct light, heat and moisture... they should be nearly 100% as effective as they originally were on day 1.
Now if only we could REALLY put this to the test and find some poppies that were hidden away in the depths of some ancient pyramid!! You know me... "Just dust off that curse, and I'll try it!" :D
irish
05-31-2008, 01:51 PM
I wouldn't shoot it unless you are 100% sure what it is first. I mean, lots of people put other pills in old script bottles.
roxi*stardust
05-31-2008, 06:32 PM
I've always read if these pills (or most, if not all, opiates) were kept out of direct light, heat and moisture... they should be nearly 100% as effective as they originally were on day 1.
Now if only we could REALLY put this to the test and find some poppies that were hidden away in the depths of some ancient pyramid!! You know me... "Just dust off that curse, and I'll try it!" :D
That's about right. They may have lost a little bit of potency but other than that, should be fine. It's not something like an antibiotic that you would have to worry about turning toxic or poisonous.
I wouldn't shoot it unless you are 100% sure what it is first. I mean, lots of people put other pills in old script bottles.
Damn straight.
Be careful man.
OxyDust
05-31-2008, 07:23 PM
Back in the 90's when my father first got injured he was prescribed the little white 30 mg morphine sulfate tabs (no gel bullshit). the ones you have should be good to go!
oxydose
05-31-2008, 07:24 PM
w0rd guys, no way I was even gonna try it w/o eating some first.. IM FAIRLY DAMN SURE THOUGH, that they are what the bottle says b/c my buddy is a opi fiend and knows EXACTLY wtf a opiate feels like, and he said it defanitly was giving him a real fucked up feeling and nodding off (off like 200mg), so lke he said "if it isn't morphine its gotta be some other gd opiate for sure", and he knows the codeiene feeling and ceiling...
So ima take his word at it, buy another $30 worth and try em this week at work (for pain and w/d)... I'm atleat 90% sure he isnt tryna rip me, its a good friend and he has a good job, plus hes willing to spot me the others till i get payed next week, so ya know...
I appriciate everyones help and I will keep yall posted on what it was/and or what I thought it was at least :P
Like I said I'm about 90% sure he knows what hes talking about... Well I know he knows, and I really highly doubt he'd even think about ripping me off...
drugsaregood
05-31-2008, 10:41 PM
Good score. Hope they have maintained their potency. Just a thought but you could try calling the poison control people and say you need them to identify it...They probably have some older databases and stuff. Good luck.
goagirl23
05-31-2008, 11:09 PM
They are Oramorph 30 mg: I found a site that said this : " Each off-white compressed biconvex extended release tablet with "30" debossed on one side and product identification "54/090" debossed on the other side, contains: morphine sulfate 30 mg." I just googled 54 090 morphine and it came right up
oxydose
05-31-2008, 11:40 PM
They are Oramorph 30 mg: I found a site that said this : " Each off-white compressed biconvex extended release tablet with "30" debossed on one side and product identification "54/090" debossed on the other side, contains: morphine sulfate 30 mg." I just googled 54 090 morphine and it came right up
AHH! Sounds just like it EXACTLY except that it has no 30 on the other side, and its 54 over 090 (dunno if you meant that), from that and the bottle plus what him and 2 others told me its morphine. But it is the right #s and is offwhite which is good because I thought they had turned to that color from white (see above) lol.
Now has anyone ever tried to fix these, lotta powder it seems for a good hit...
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