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HistoryofMadness
03-14-2006, 01:23 AM
A couple of opioid (I think?) materials I've been looking into lately. Found some info, but looking for anyone who has some experience with them? I'm looking for some materials to add to an analgesic combo. Also curious whether there's any euphoria (or more importantly disphoria) associated with them. Comments?

katomic
03-14-2006, 12:36 PM
FUCK nice one my little bros in kiwi country I will send him some picks see if he can get some.

Origin:
The pukatea is found in wet gullies and swampy areas in the forests throughout the North Island and the north of the South Island. It has a preference for shady, wet area1. It is one of the tallest trees found in New Zealand. The Maori people only used the bark of the pukatea for rongoa.
Rongoa:
Dermatological complaints: The outer bark was removed and the inner bark was steeped in hot water. The resulting extracted liquid was used to heal sores and ulcers1.
Genitourinary complaints:
To treat venereal infection a decoction of the bark was made with water and hot stones in a drinking vessel, and it was then taken by mouth2.
Gastrointestinal complaints:
The inner most layer of the bark was crushed, shred and left to lie in cold water. The mixture was then given by mouth3.
Other rongoa uses:
A strong decoction of the pulped inner bark was held in the mouth to treat pain associated with toothache1. To treat neuralgia, fresh bark was steeped in hot water and the pulp was placed over the area of pain4.
Alternative Uses:
The elaborate figureheads of the Maori canoes are often carved from the buttresses of the pukatea trunks, but the totara is still the preferred wood for the canoe’s hull3.
Chemistry:
The bark of the pukatea contains the alkaloid pukateine, which has strong analgesic properties similar to those of morphine, but has no after effects5.

Canis aureus
03-24-2006, 03:54 AM
Would be interesting to see a facts like above regarding N. sativa... UTFSE :D

jacky
03-25-2006, 01:07 PM
phytoextractum.com sells pukatea tincture.

the pukateine compound is not an opiate, at least to my knowledge, it is a dopamine agonist/mild stimulant. I have had some uncomfortable experiences with the stuff when taking to much, tight chest , anxiety etc.

it does work good topically. and has a pleasant flavor. I dont take much more than a 1/3 millilitre. the reccomended amount is in the 3-4 DROPS range, which is nothing in my opinion.

nigella sativa contains the opiate agonist thymoquinone, I think that is the right spelling. it is mild, and you have to consume at least 1-3 tablespoons of the strange tasting oil. I notice a stronger effect when taking other opiates in the presence of this stuff.

kratom seems to be the strongest opioid herbal....

chaste tree is pretty interesting, dopamine agonist, kappa and mild mu opioid agonist activity supposedly.

Canis aureus
03-25-2006, 02:01 PM
Yeah,

kratom is... there is that 7-OH-mitragynine & mitragynine compound out there. Like a RC... One thinks yet about banging such :D Also, that exctract of was it 41%... not banging that though (hell never).