First fix

[bogumil]

SWIM put a needle inside a vein the first time today. It went rather easy and didnt hurt. But now the area around the spot is light red, just like when one has a slight allergic reaction. SWIM used the lower quarter part of his left arm, about 15 cm above the wrist. It was this long vein, that makes a very long bow, pretty much in the middle.

Is this an ok-vein? And is the little red area normal? I suppose, but I dont want SWIM to use a wrong place too often. I remember one shall not use an area too far away from the heart. Is the lower 1/4 of the lower arm ok?

[renton]

It's always gonna be a bit red as your puting a foreign object into your body. Aslong as you clean the spot with alcohol or something like that first and the needle was clean it should be fine. If it was an infection it would take awhile for it to show up, it wouldent happen right away.

[shaunclo]

Hey Bog, your fuckin with the needle eh?? bad boy,;) Anyways, as for the injection spot, I would start with the biggest and easiest vein you have, which is the wrist opposite side of your elbow. The one that they take blood outta whenever you go to the hospital. This is a painless (most of the time) injection spot, and it is very easy to hit. I hit that motha-sucka for a good month before it almost collapsed. I didnt know to rotate injection sites back then, I wish I did though.

EDIT - the easiest vein is the oposite of your elbow, not the wrist, I just noticed that I wrote oposite of the wrist, which made no sense.

[bogumil]

Thanks for the replies guys!

I found that sadly it is easier than I had thought ... SWIM will try to use this method only now and then, like when he has not much dope left. But I assume this is what 99% of the people, who are stuck to the needle, said, when they started, right? LOL

BTW. SWIM used a millipore filter with 0.2 ym. He just cooked the stuff, pulled it into one syringe, then screwed the filter on the syringe, the needle on the filter and pushed it into another sterile syringe. Pressed air out and tried.

Strange man. The first time that SWIM did, what he always had seen as THE symbol of drug addiction.

PS: Yes, SWIM cleaned the injection site. He had this set from the needle exchange: sterile water, ascorbic acid, needle, syringe and little paper with isopropylalcohol.

[jab]

You may have also missed a bit of the shot. Sometimes, after you register, and you start to push it home you'll push through the vein a bit and get a "leak" of sorts. Practice will eliminate this.

And, like was said above, any time you put a foreign body into a vein it tends to redden a bit. As long as it's not real sore, too swolen, or very hot feeling, you should be OK.

So how was it? Was it all you expected it to be?

Be safe!

[bogumil]

Thanks. The colour was normal after 2 hours again.

It was the very first and I was on my own, so I took a really tiny bit of H, about 1/4 - 1/5 of what I usually take nasally, so it was too few I think, but it hits so fast all at once. I have the feeling that if I would take the normal amountm that this bang would knock me out for a few minutes. Could this happen?

[devilsdrug]

sorry to say bogy youve probably just fukked yourself, prove me wrong

[sidman]

Yeah....you have just "crossed over"....I'm NOT going to say "Welcome" to the other side,but nice to meet ya!! Don't O.D.! It ain't no Joke!

[shaunclo]

Bog, take care with this new hobby man. You sound like you are a smart guy, but there will be those moments when you just wanna get so fucked up, that you will under-estimate your tolerance. And when you do that, ITS NOT GOOD!!

And no, passing out after a shot is not a good idea, that is a form of OD. You should be Nodding, but not passing-out. Remember that sometimes the quality of your gear (I said gear, I think thats the first time a west-coaster said that) varies. One day you might have shit, the next day some bomb-diggety. The bomb-diggety is the stuff that will kill you. Have fun, keep up updated

[bogumil]

Thanks guys.

I will try to only use it i.v. on very special occasions like weekends. In general Im rather careful ... whenever I get a new batch even when I snort I always take a tiny liny, which usually would have no effect at all to see how the dope is. I usually buy 1 - 2 grams when I go scoring, then I open the bubbles, put it all together and take the test-line. I plan on going on this way in the future so hopefully Ill never underestimate the strength. But Im aware.

But the whole shooting thing is really a completely different ritual. The preparation alone is kind of fun.

[Coddfish]

Every day is a special day! Whaddaya think guys? He's noticed how fun the ritual is. . . is he destined for Junkyland? If I were a bettin' man. . . .

[shaunclo]

But the whole shooting thing is really a completely different ritual. The preparation alone is kind of fun.

Hey Bog, I think I wrote up a post about the ritual of shooting. Honestly, for me, I enjoyed the ritual more than the actual high. I sometimes wanted to be soberish so I could go thru the ritual again. I LOOOOVE THE RITUAL SO MUCH. I use to be very squemish when it came to needles. Now it seems like all I wanna do is jab myself over and over again. Can you say masocist? or is it sadist? I forget.

[Tar_Baby]

be careful man
if you. are banging tar be sure and cook the fuck out of it, change spoons (if you get that gunk stuck on bottom real bad) and cook again till its light piss colored
if you miss it may or .m.ay not abscess but usuall.y cant tell. .for about 24 hrs but after that youll. know because of severe pain and heat around in.ject site ( lik.e you have a fever just in that spot)
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also be careful. of dosin.g and remem.ber .you .can .al.ways do a li.ttle more .if you n.eed ~ but once you push the plunger .down .you cant take it back out if its too strong
. try to inject around others in. case you fall. out ~ 90 % of .OD'.s can be .revived without am.bul.ance
Ive had to revive 2 girl.friends that turned blue .and unconscious

[Tar_Baby]

Hey Bog, I think I wrote up a post about the ritual of shooting. Honestly, for me, I enjoyed the ritual more than the actual high. I sometimes wanted to be soberish so I could go thru the ritual again. I LOOOOVE THE RITUAL SO MUCH. I use to be very squemish when it came to needles. Now it seems like all I wanna do is jab myself over and over again. Can you say masocist? or is it sadist? I forget.
same .here
sadist = enjoys giving pain.
m.asochist .= enjoys recieving

[sidman]

SHIIIIIITT!!! When it comes to lovin' the RITUAL of shootin' dope, well,put it this way....once I copped my dope and got somewhere cool to shoot a bag or two, I could have the shit outta the bag/into the spoon/add water/suck it up/and into my arm in 1.5 minutes!!No missing!! No Bullshit!! ( we don't gotta cook our dope here, just add water!!)
But really, is that somethin' to be proud of? Only Amongst Junkies!
So Bogumil just remember that, NOW, The Monkey's Armed With a Needle,Man!!

[shaunclo]

No, it most definitely is not something to be proud of at all. I despise it actually. The fact that I love jabbing myself with a needle makes me sick somtimes, but what can I do, I ventured too far down the path and am trying to just keep it under control now, instead of it controlling me.

[poppy]

You're right Shaunclo when you say injecting is not something to be proud of. Its not big, its not clever and its a sure road to heart ache. Us junkies know all this yet against our better judgement we continue doing it.

Its weird isn't it how you can be disgusted by the action of injecting (for pleasure) on one level yet enjoy it on another....................

[bogumil]

Wow. I wouldnt have thought that there are so many who love the ritual. One guy, who made me a connection once, told me that sometimes he shoots water just to inject something.

I luckily only have the no.3 or 4 heroin (powder where you have to add acid). I think I would be too afraid to shoot tar. The thought of all the things that can hide in such a ball of materia, would be too much probably.


I saw something on a docu about bacteria research and funghus research some days ago, which I included into the preparation: They took the plate where they "plant" the funghi on and hold a bunsen burner on it for a few seconds to sterilize it.

I run the flame of the lighter over the spoon before I add the goodies now, very careful so that the flame doesnt blacken the spoon. This should destroy any bacteria and viri on the spoon as well as any fibres from the towel or tissue that I used to clean the spoon.

But I havent shooten since last time and will try to do it only once a week. The rest is snorting.