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xecutrex
05-22-2008, 12:52 PM
I just got a bunch of fent acitiqs 800mcg and a bunch of 25mcg/h watson, 50mcg/h watson, 75mcg watson, and 100mcg/h fent patches. im really fucking scared to mess with fent, this will be my first time. what would yall recommend i do my first time that will be safest? Just suck on the 800mch lollipop until i start to nod then take it out? or cut open a 25mcg patch and squeeze a drop out about the size of a needle head and smoke it off some foil? I have a pretty decent tolerance...about 12-24mg of dilaudid IV and about 250mg of oxy orally to get high...on binges i can do over 500mgs oxy orally. im debating on whether to even bother with sucking on a acitiq or wearing a 25mcg patch...i know that its probley the safest method but ive read that wearing a patch can take up to 24hrs to kick in for a first timer and i have no idea if a acitiq will even get me high...i dont have the patience to wait that long...so im thinking about just going ahead and smoking the fent. what would yall recommend?

God_Albino
05-22-2008, 01:06 PM
wearing a 25 or even 50 probably wont do shit for you if youre doing 500mg of oxy at a time. just start off slow and small with smoking it and have someone to make sure you dont die. youll probably nod off to the point the other person gets scared once in awhile, but it wears off fast (unless you really did od).

thats a huge blessing and a huge curse you got

Mallinckrodt
05-22-2008, 01:11 PM
Man, if I had one of those pops, no question, I'd be sucking on it. Suck for a bit while you let the little pinhead of gel you mentioned dry on a piece of foil. You probably won't even need to smoke it after a little with that actiq, but if you do it'll be there nice and dry for you.

Princess
05-22-2008, 02:22 PM
The pops aren't *that* great, but I'd suck on one ;)
For sure, I agree with drying a small amount on foil. I don't like smoking it wet.

Dry is to die for... literally... So be careful. Small amounts with big breaks in between.

xecutrex
05-22-2008, 02:41 PM
wearing a 25 or even 50 probably wont do shit for you if youre doing 500mg of oxy at a time. just start off slow and small with smoking it and have someone to make sure you dont die. youll probably nod off to the point the other person gets scared once in awhile, but it wears off fast (unless you really did od).

thats a huge blessing and a huge curse you got

Well ill be by myself, so no one will be around if I OD, fent scares the hell out of me and being alone for my first time is another reason why im so worried. How big of blob of fent should i be putting on the foil for my hit? and if i notice that the first hit doesnt get me high how long should i wait before doing another one?

Man, if I had one of those pops, no question, I'd be sucking on it. Suck for a bit while you let the little pinhead of gel you mentioned dry on a piece of foil. You probably won't even need to smoke it after a little with that actiq, but if you do it'll be there nice and dry for you.

yeah but the problem is that ive read that fent taks 24hrs or so to kick in for a first timer, and i dont want to wait that long to get high, i dont have the patience...i have 50 of the 800mcg pops though, so maybe if i did a couple at once it would get me high quicker.

The pops aren't *that* great, but I'd suck on one ;)
For sure, I agree with drying a small amount on foil. I don't like smoking it wet.

Dry is to die for... literally... So be careful. Small amounts with big breaks in between.

Why do you like dry fent PTO Mom? I didnt think it mattered...does it make it more potent or something? And how long of a break should i take before taking another hit?

Mallinckrodt
05-22-2008, 03:27 PM
yeah but the problem is that ive read that fent taks 24hrs or so to kick in for a first timer, and i dont want to wait that long to get high, i dont have the patience...i have 50 of the 800mcg pops though, so maybe if i did a couple at once it would get me high quicker.


Where did you hear this? Those pops are specially formulated for breakthrough pain right? Instant release transmucosal fent shouldn't take more than a few minutes to start working no mater how many times you've done it.

xecutrex
05-22-2008, 04:07 PM
Where did you hear this? Those pops are specially formulated for breakthrough pain right? Instant release transmucosal fent shouldn't take more than a few minutes to start working no mater how many times you've done it.

Oooo, alright then, cool. Im gunna take one right now then. Do you just suck on them like a regular lollipop or just stick it between your cheek and let it sit there? Should i take it out when i start to get high or will i be fine if i just leave it? thanks dude

jdub
05-22-2008, 04:21 PM
I think you put it in your cheek. And I would take it out once you feel high.

I have never had the pops so this is all conjecture. UTFSE

Princess
05-22-2008, 04:34 PM
Dry seems to provide a much better high and hits harder, IMO. I know others feel this way as well. Wet seems to waste some for me.

I'd wait maybe 10 minutes between hits, just to be sure. Smoking it dry hits hard & quick, so you'll know right away if you hit it right. Wet is more alcohol tasting and sometimes I'd sit around and wonder if I got it... but dry, you feel right away.

Am I making sense? :D

The pops are for break-thru and don't take 24 hours to work... same with smoking. The only thing that could take up to 24 hrs is wearing a patch and if the dose is low for you, you won't feel high... it would just provide pain relief.

EE has my email if ya need me.


Why do you like dry fent PTO Mom? I didnt think it mattered...does it make it more potent or something? And how long of a break should i take before taking another hit?

xecutrex
05-22-2008, 05:28 PM
Well i just finished a pop and dont feel anything, they seem pretty worthless to me. Maybe its bc ive been banging dilaudid/oxy shots all day and the dillie/oxy high is overpowering the fent high...i just feel a little more relaxed and thats it. Im gunna try smoking some of the fent now since the pops didnt work...im gunna wait an hr though just in case the acitiqs take awhile to kick in.

edit; just threw up, so i guess i wont need to wait an hr to see if it was going to kick in


Dry seems to provide a much better high and hits harder, IMO. I know others feel this way as well. Wet seems to waste some for me.

I'd wait maybe 10 minutes between hits, just to be sure. Smoking it dry hits hard & quick, so you'll know right away if you hit it right. Wet is more alcohol tasting and sometimes I'd sit around and wonder if I got it... but dry, you feel right away.

Am I making sense? :D

The pops are for break-thru and don't take 24 hours to work... same with smoking. The only thing that could take up to 24 hrs is wearing a patch and if the dose is low for you, you won't feel high... it would just provide pain relief.

EE has my email if ya need me.

Thanks for the info and help PTO mom, appriciate it, and yes that made perfect sense. :)

Papa Verine
05-22-2008, 06:26 PM
That's a nice little stash you got there.

If you can do 500mg of Oxy orally, am 800ug Actiq pop isn't going to kill you, that's for sure.

Don't eat it like a regular lolli-pop. rub it on the inside of your cheek. It gets absordbed through the skin on the inside of your mouth. But don't expect much from one with the tolerance you have.

I trust you'll figure out what to do with all those patches.

xecutrex
05-22-2008, 07:32 PM
okay so say i poked a hole in a 75mcg patch and got liquid gel on my finger trying to squeeze a drop out...would i die?

resorcinol
05-22-2008, 08:16 PM
okay so say i poked a hole in a 75mcg patch and got liquid gel on my finger trying to squeeze a drop out...would i die?

Most likely no, just rub it off and then wash that spot.

Princess
05-22-2008, 09:24 PM
Awe, honey. Lets not be scared of the fent. Just respect it :D Mad respect to the fent.

If you got some on your skin, it would work the same as wearing the patches, that amount will get into your system. Unless you rubbed the gel from an entire patch on your skin, you'll be just fine.

okay so say i poked a hole in a 75mcg patch and got liquid gel on my finger trying to squeeze a drop out...would i die?

Papa Verine
05-22-2008, 09:36 PM
okay so say i poked a hole in a 75mcg patch and got liquid gel on my finger trying to squeeze a drop out...would i die?

You're kidding right?

xecutrex
05-22-2008, 10:59 PM
You're kidding right?

i hear about fent ods all the time, so no, i wasnt. was just being paranoid i guess

so far ive smoked 3 bb sized blobs of fent, im either doing something wrong, or not enough. havent felt much so far

jdub
05-22-2008, 11:30 PM
i hear about fent ods all the time, so no, i wasnt. was just being paranoid i guess

so far ive smoked 3 bb sized blobs of fent, im either doing something wrong, or not enough. havent felt much so far

Cause you are not doing enough. This stuff will not kill you from contacting your skin.

Dances with Smack
05-22-2008, 11:32 PM
i hear about fent ods all the time, so no, i wasnt. was just being paranoid i guess

so far ive smoked 3 bb sized blobs of fent, im either doing something wrong, or not enough. havent felt much so far

Doood! Congrats on a great score!
:D

Anyways...if SWIM just happened to get some gel on his lil 'ol fingertip, SWIM would put that shit under his tongue...wipe it off? WIPE IT OFF?? Please...you're gonna make me cry.

Same with the Actiq pops...just keep it under yo' tongue til ya feel it, then take it outta yo mouth...'til you get used to it, natch.

Ya know, SWIM never smoked his fent...did just fine just swallowing the gel. Now, SWIM was eating the gel outta a 100 mcg patch at a time...please don't do that...

That much fent would last SWIM...ummm...less time than I probably think...

:D

xecutrex
05-23-2008, 01:22 AM
This stuff will not kill you from contacting your skin.

i know

Doood! Congrats on a great score!
:D

Anyways...if SWIM just happened to get some gel on his lil 'ol fingertip, SWIM would put that shit under his tongue...wipe it off? WIPE IT OFF?? Please...you're gonna make me cry.

Same with the Actiq pops...just keep it under yo' tongue til ya feel it, then take it outta yo mouth...'til you get used to it, natch.

Ya know, SWIM never smoked his fent...did just fine just swallowing the gel. Now, SWIM was eating the gel outta a 100 mcg patch at a time...please don't do that...

That much fent would last SWIM...ummm...less time than I probably think...

:D

LOL dont cry bro, i did wipe it, but only onto some foil to smoke :D. im gunna try that next, eating a part of a patch that is, i have some non gel mylans that im gunna cut into pieces and eat um...that should work.

Dan Steely
05-23-2008, 09:09 AM
The pops aren't *that* great, but I'd suck on one ;)
For sure, I agree with drying a small amount on foil. I don't like smoking it wet.

Dry is to die for... literally... So be careful. Small amounts with big breaks in between.

Listen to The First Lady of fent smoking, she knows. Dry that shit.

Princess
05-23-2008, 09:13 AM
Listen to The First Lady of fent smoking, she knows. Dry that shit.

:D ;)

God_Albino
05-23-2008, 09:25 AM
its a LOT easier to destroy the hit if its dried when you're just starting out, even wet gel takes practice with the lighter.

i used to just use a tweak pipe to make sure i wasnt wasting anything, but that doesnt work too good for dry hits once you get the hang of it

Tbird921
05-23-2008, 09:53 AM
If you can do 500mg OC orally, or IV 16-24 of dillies, it would take A LOT for you to OD, smoke a nice sized dot, untill you start nodding, smoking fent is so nice.

SUBoxZERO
05-23-2008, 11:54 AM
I hope you know fentanyl is like the shaq daddy of pharmaceutical opies. A 800 mcg pop or two and you'll be feeling nice. I never really messed with the patches. I didn't even know they could be dried and smoked.