"safety" checkpoints??

[WarmCyanide]

If i'm on the road, not violating any laws, why do you have the right to stop me???

[Somanax]

I have no Idea

however roadblock's

are extremely prevalent in N.C.

They run six deep at most block's here

and Whatever you pray to to help you. Pray hard

if you try to avoid/run from one

I have gotten away from one and only one

All because they were all out of their car's

when I rolled up on it.I stopped and the cop literally

tried to physically pull me through the window, when I drove away

I had 4 bag's in my hand. So I had to try to pull far enough away

to eat /trash the stuff.I got extremely lucky.I did keep my stuff though:cool:

[poonwhalla]

I think it is a total violation of my rights to try to catch me in the act. Fucking cops will make up a reason to illegally search your car around here. Like when i was in the hood they pulled me over for no reason and wanted me to consent to a search yeah fucking right. It was good practice though since I had nothing on me

[Somanax]

I think it is a total violation of my rights to try to catch me in the act. Fucking cops will make up a reason to illegally search your car around here. Like when i was in the hood they pulled me over for no reason and wanted me to consent to a search yeah fucking right. It was good practice though since I had nothing on me

I hope you made them get a warrant

At least that keep's them busy specially if you are clean

[poonwhalla]

I just kept them busy with bullshit stories and didn't let them in. I was super calm, looked them in the eye and sounded convincing and sincere so they kind of backed off.

I have been in the at gunpoint ripping me out of the car while chewing my stash situations too but I have learned to bite my tung and make them feel like they have the power.

Duper's post reminded me here is another site that is good for speedtraps/checkpoints
http://www.speedtrap.org/speedtraps/stetlist.asp

[allover]

You can blame the nazi organization perpetrating themselves as MADD for road blocks.

[Pointy]

Those check points are fucked up. Luckily in my state the state supreme court ruled them ilfuckinglegal . it rains a lot but Washington is pretty cool place

[pizzaboy]

You can blame the nazi organization perpetrating themselves as MADD for road blocks.

Yes, you are right.

I recently was stopped at a sobriety checkpoint not 2 minutes from my apartment while on the way to pick my wife up at her former job. It was obviously towards the end of the evening for them, because they didn't ask for any identification or anything...just stuck his head in the window and asked if I was drunk. I was not, because I never am...so he asked where I was going.

That is what pissed me off. I feel I have the right to go places without interference from law enforcement. It was none of his business where I was going...but I told him anyway because I wanted to get my wife and go home.

2 minutes later I was on the way back...and he waved me through.

I think law enforcement has the right to try and get drunk drivers off the road...but I also think they have overstepped their bounds in trying to accomplish this. I don't know where the balance is...but I'm quite put off when they get into my business.

Now...on the other hand...the other day I broke down on a major highway while in possession of narcotics. Several patrol cars passed...not a one was even curious as to what I was doing stopped on the middle of the road. Within a reasonable time my mother-in-law came and got me, but it got me to wondering what I would have done if someone had stopped and requested a search.

If I had to vote...I'd vote thumbs down on checkpoints. I'm against any government intrusion that isn't absolutely necessary...and I feel that unnecessary.

[duper]

There's a web site designed to notify people about these on their cell phone with text messages so they can avoid getting stuck in traffic and such. It's at http://www.nocheckpoints.com.

[jdub]

I voted "violation of my rights".

I have never actually been trough one before though (police checkpoint). One of the benefits of being a city boy with access to decent public transpo.

[Black_Pony]

Remember, driving is a 'privilege' not a right. [/sarcasm]

I think checkpoints SUCK. It slows down people trying to get places. Gotta pull em over and start a big old hassle. What if the driver is running late for something important? The economy and free market capitalism rely on good fast reliable transportation. Slowing people down for a bullshit reason is counterproductive and inefficient. Fuck em.

[youwonhundred]

I went with other, cause IMO, checkpoints are just an excuse to fuck with people and cops are assholes on the best day, so fuck em all. The only people who become pigs are men with little cocks and no self esteem who get off on harassing people. A gun and an attitude does not equal protect and serve. I don't wish them death, just intense pain. I deal with it, as do many others. Fuck the po-leeses

[More Feen]

Some Dumb-Ass Like Myself (SDALM) rarely drives if he's been drinking, so blockposts/roadbloacks aren't much of bother.

One can only image what the results would be, if opiates (& other drugs) caused such obvious effects from using it as alcohol does.

Actually, the most recent roadblocks I've encountered were to check for freakin safety-belt usage!!

go figure,

[SurfRat]

It's kinda like that probable cause thing... If you are not violating any laws, why are they pulling you over?

BBC news had a report on television during one of the last elections where it was alleged checkpoints were used as tactic to intimidate certain segments of the voting population...

Don't know but there's ample opportunity for abuse.

[SHELLEY]

I think it is a total violation of my rights to try to catch me in the act. Fucking cops will make up a reason to illegally search your car around here. Like when i was in the hood they pulled me over for no reason and wanted me to consent to a search yeah fucking right. It was good practice though since I had nothing on me

here in florida its a catch 22
once they decide they want to search you
whether its your car, your purse, or your pockets
its the "probable cause problem"
once they have probable cause
then they can legally search you without your permission
so, the cop will ask for your consent/permission for a search
if you say YES, then the search is legal
and anything they find can be used against you
if you say NO, then obviously you are hiding something
probable cause kicks in, and the search is legal
and anything they find can be used against you
sucks, huh?

more people i know have been arrested
because of that bullshit than anything else
it got to the point where the cops in my area
knew that i knew the rules
and whenever i saw one pull up on me
i handed my purse to the motherfucker

[SHELLEY]

checkpoints are just an excuse to fuck with people and cops are assholes on the best day, so fuck em all. The only people who become pigs are men with little cocks and no self esteem who get off on harassing people. A gun and an attitude does not equal protect and serve. I don't wish them death, just intense pain. I deal with it, as do many others. Fuck the po-leeses



sorry to double post
but my friend who is dead now
had the BEST theory about cops

you know in high school
how the "jocks" make the "nerds" lives hell
just for the fuck of it?
well, the "nerds" graduate from high school
go to a good college, work hard
and get an awesome job making buku cash
while the "jocks" have nothing to look forward to
except maybe mopping mens room floors
and the "nerds" win!

so the losers think
"how can i still give these guys shit?
OH SHIT! I KNOW!
i'll become a cop!"

so next time you get pulled over
and the cop is holding his dick in his hand
don't they look familiar?

the worst thing here in my city
is that if you get pulled for ANYTHING
for example, vehicular homicide or going a mile over the speed limit
2 or more cops will join the original cop that pulled you
and get out of their cars
and with the same contemptful grin on their fat faces
ask the same fucking question to the original cop:

"NOW WHAT HAVE WE GOT HERE???"

yes, you could say i hate cops

[Nate]

here in florida its a catch 22
once they decide they want to search you
whether its your car, your purse, or your pockets
its the "probable cause problem"
once they have probable cause
then they can legally search you without your permission
so, the cop will ask for your consent/permission for a search
if you say YES, then the search is legal
and anything they find can be used against you
if you say NO, then obviously you are hiding something
probable cause kicks in, and the search is legal
and anything they find can be used against you
sucks, huh?

more people i know have been arrested
because of that bullshit than anything else
it got to the point where the cops in my area
knew that i knew the rules
and whenever i saw one pull up on me
i handed my purse to the motherfucker

Thats bullshit Shelley, just because you say no to a search doesn't give them probable grounds for a search, you are simply executing your RIGHT TO SAY NO, its a RIGHT we all have....wtf?

Everytime I am stopped and asked to be searched, I say no right away, if they search then nothing then find is admisable (got caught with some weed, guess they thought I was some stupid kid, charges were dropped because the cop had NO REASON TO SEARCH, he just did it). You have to be ARRESTED or they have PROBABLE grounds to presume you have a weapon or drugs on you (but if you are just walking down the street minding your business, or you are just driving to the store, they can't just search you, now if you just left a KNOWN dope house, then maybe but even that is bullshit)

I don't know how the law works for you guys, but thats fucking bullshit, cause in a nutshell you have no rights to even say no. A cop walks up you MUST be searched? Bullshit.

My LAW teacher made a big point to us that even if you say NO to a search, that does NOT give a cop grounds for a search, if he is ASKING, then he has no rights to search (if he could search he won't ask PEROID)

[upstate_007]

Over the last week I have gone through 4 different check points where I live. It probably has something to do with the holiday weekend (let's fuck with people enjoying a vacation!!) and I live at an interstate junction en route to a popular holiday hangout.

Same fucking thing each time.

Fat fucking pig: "Have you been drinking?"
Me: "No"
Fat fucking pig: "Nothing at all? Are you sure"
Me: "No"
Fat fucking pig: "Are you not sure, or no, nothing at all"
Me: "Yes"
Fat fucking pig: "One last time, have you been drinking?"
Me: "No I have not been drinking"
Fat fucking pig: "Ok then, that wasn't so hard was it?"
Me: "No" with a shit eating grin on my face

That was just about verbatim from earlier this week. I believe it is still legal to be an asshole, right? I never kiss ass to cops. Fuck them. They are no better than anyone else and I sure as hell am not going to inflate their ego.

It's a violation of my rights and it has made me late getting to the bar at times:D

[God_Albino]

shelley, does that apply to everyone, or are the cops just aware of your work history.
thats unbelievable.

[Raisin]

Hey Shelley, tell em about the bullshit law in Riviera Beach pertaining to baggy pants with your underwear showing.

[youwonhundred]

Hey Shelley, tell em about the bullshit law in Riviera Beach pertaining to baggy pants with your underwear showing.

Dude! I read about that shit. Crazy as fuck, if you ask me. Apparently its against the law to "sag" or whatever its called. Now, I'm not into that whole fashion thing, cause it looks retarded to me (I really don't want to see what color boxers some fuckhead is wearing) BUT all the same, its goddamned retarded.

As far as cops using your refusal to search as grounds for probable cause, I haven't experienced it personally, but the way things are headed (already are) it doesn't surprise me a bit. Reminds me of something that happened to me a few years ago. Either way, if they have a hardon for you, you're fucked. No kiss, no reacharound, NOTHIN!

[paroxetina]

This is not going to be a popular point of view, but I fully support random checkpoints to stop drunk drivers. From what I've heard of, they aren't searching your car but are doing a brethalyzer to make sure you haven't been drinking. If it's a full search of your vehicle without any probable cause, that's different - but I think those cases are rare, despite what people here are saying.

[rockbottom]

here in cali they have to have a turnoff rd before the checkpoint. if you use it they send a motorcycle cop after you to see why u tried to skip the checkpoint. total violation of rights bcause theyll pull you over just bcause you turned. not even a lame excuse like'YOUR TURN SIGNALS BROKEN' I hate pigs:cool:

[poonwhalla]

This is not going to be a popular point of view, but I fully support random checkpoints to stop drunk drivers. From what I've heard of, they aren't searching your car but are doing a brethalyzer to make sure you haven't been drinking. If it's a full search of your vehicle without any probable cause, that's different - but I think those cases are rare, despite what people here are saying.

Hardly at all. I have seen checkpoints for seatbelts, visual violations and expired tags and inspections in the middle of the day where they will try to rip your car apart if they want to. I can even understand a little if they mark your tires in bar parking lots and pull you over or wait outside of bars but the whole roadblock thing sucks/

[NV12]

This is not going to be a popular point of view, but I fully support random checkpoints to stop drunk drivers. From what I've heard of, they aren't searching your car but are doing a brethalyzer to make sure you haven't been drinking. If it's a full search of your vehicle without any probable cause, that's different - but I think those cases are rare, despite what people here are saying.

I'm with ya on this one... I've had several friends and family members get killed by a drunk driver. It's unfortunate that cops abuse the system... always taking it farther then they should. I don't think it's an invasion of privacy for the law to try and keep drunk drivers off the road, but searching your car without VALID reason is an invasion of my privacy. I despise LE as much as anyone though...

WOS

[irish]

I know that this will be unpopular but, I don't hate cops. There are some who are complete dicks though. I shoot with a bunch of cops (guns, not dope, lol) and they are a great group of guys. I think that the police force attracts certain people who have a thing for power and are bullies, and the psych exam doesn't always catch them all unfortunately. I completely disagree with the random check-point, it's unconstitutional and just plain wrong. If I break the law and get busted fair and square I can't take it personally. I did it and I was wrong. I think that fear of getting caught can often turn to hate pretty easily. When a cop sees you acting sketchy, or getting belligerent with them, they get scared. They don't know if you are about to shoot them in the face or if you are just scared. I get nervous when I get stopped even if I haven't done anything and they can pick up on this. If you are calm, polite, and confident things will go a lot smoother for you. Unless you get one of those assholes I mentioned earlier. As for refusal to search becoming probable cause, that violates your 5th amendment right to not incriminate yourself as well as your right against unlawful search and seizure. It shouldn't stand up in court.

[Nate]

I know that this will be unpopular but, I don't hate cops. There are some who are complete dicks though. I shoot with a bunch of cops (guns, not dope, lol) and they are a great group of guys. I think that the police force attracts certain people who have a thing for power and are bullies, and the psych exam doesn't always catch them all unfortunately. I completely disagree with the random check-point, it's unconstitutional and just plain wrong. If I break the law and get busted fair and square I can't take it personally. I did it and I was wrong. I think that fear of getting caught can often turn to hate pretty easily. When a cop sees you acting sketchy, or getting belligerent with them, they get scared. They don't know if you are about to shoot them in the face or if you are just scared. I get nervous when I get stopped even if I haven't done anything and they can pick up on this. If you are calm, polite, and confident things will go a lot smoother for you. Unless you get one of those assholes I mentioned earlier. As for refusal to search becoming probable cause, that violates your 5th amendment right to not incriminate yourself as well as your right against unlawful search and seizure. It shouldn't stand up in court.

EXACTLY, educate yourself peeps, KNOW YOUR RIGHTS, don't let them get away with bullshit.

REMEBER THIS, THIS IS KEY: If they ask to search you, or your vechile, it means that they can't legally do a search, if they legally can, you know damn well they ain't asking for permission, but if they ask it's because they can't. If they search anyways then nothing they find is admissable! Just cooperate at this point and make sure you mention it to your attorney.

KNOW YOUR RIGHTS!

[irish]

Remember, most cop cars have dash-cams, these can save your ass because there is no "my word against his" when it comes to video.

[Nate]

Remember, most cop cars have dash-cams, these can save your ass because there is no "my word against his" when it comes to video.

That's right irish, good point.

[clinton]

in my opinion they are another reason to violate people's rights...we have them here in my state but not like you guys are saying , i hope it doesnt get like that in my area

[Poppylvr]

Boy am I torn about this one. The nurse part of my brain, having seen the results of what drunk driving or lack of seatblets does, says no problem with checkpoints. Getting one drunk off the road before s/he kills someone is a good thing.
The "I have rights, MoFo" part of me says why should I, a (now) law abiding citizen be messed with tho catch some fools?
The Opiophile part, remembering the days when I drove high with drugs and parphenalia in the car thinks ffffuuuucccckkkk, I'm glad they never caught me.
Anyone else see the ugly irony of thoughts one and three?
I thank God, Buddha, Allah, Shiva, whatever you want to call the deity, that A. I never hurt anyone in my days of driving high, and B. if the fuzz want to stop me now, they sure can, I'm clean as a whistle.

Per my beloved: I think the nazi motherfuckers who hold checkpoints should be mowed down by a machine gun.

[SurfRat]

Boy am I torn about this one. The nurse part of my brain, having seen the results of what drunk driving or lack of seatblets does, says no problem with checkpoints. Getting one drunk off the road before s/he kills someone is a good thing.
The "I have rights, MoFo" part of me says why should I, a (now) law abiding citizen be messed with tho catch some fools?
The Opiophile part, remembering the days when I drove high with drugs and parphenalia in the car thinks ffffuuuucccckkkk, I'm glad they never caught me.
Anyone else see the ugly irony of thoughts one and three?
I thank God, Buddha, Allah, Shiva, whatever you want to call the deity, that A. I never hurt anyone in my days of driving high, and B. if the fuzz want to stop me now, they sure can, I'm clean as a whistle.

Per my beloved: I think the nazi motherfuckers who hold checkpoints should be mowed down by a machine gun.


I know what you're saying but I guess the theory would be that bad driving get's you pulled over. I mean if you are so high you can't drive then the gestapo would see you. I know it's not that simple.

Kind of brings up another point too like, driving on alcohol I would never do (I don't drink, but even one drink,) driving on weed is kinda weird but ok, but driving on modest amounts of opies... You could go to jail for it but does it affect your driving? I mean driving in a bad mood isn't good either.

[handsome rob]

I would have voted "i could give a shit" until last night. I was pulled over last evening. I was going to cop some H but had forty-five minutes to kill so my friend who was hooking it up needed to run an errand, whatever, I had time to kill. We passed about four or five squads that were in the middle of searching a suspect and vehicle, I thought nothing of it since I had nothing on me. About ten minutes later we were driving back, passing the "scene of the crime" and looked in my rearview and was being pulled over.

The cop asked me if I had ID and told me not to reach for it. It was obvious they pulled us over because I am white and she is black and the neighborhood is pretty bad. They then asked me to step out of the car and searched me but not before cuffing me...WTF. One cop said my fly was down and had proably stashed dope in there. They really went to town looking at everything, even a fortune cookine fortune as if it were some paraphenalia. They found a straw(I had used earlier to toot some ambien) and that was enough to search the vehicle. They arleady detained my passenger and were going through her purse and they put me in the back of another squad. After about five minutes they uncuffed me and let me go while asking me if I was using her to get methadone and if I used H? That was kind of random but they let me go and asked me If I had "learned my lesson?" and to leave before they changed their mind.

She was arrested for I assume paraphenalia as she smokes rock but they didn't tell me. It was straight up profiling a white guy and black woman, their assumptions were correct but we had not done anything illegal to promote their initial actions. Just four white cops wanting to teach a white boy a lesson. What pissed me off more was when my friend got out she accused me of setting her up as if I had a "pull me over my passenger might have a crack pipe" sign on the car. Sorry for the long post just venting the bullshit I had to enndure.

[wafflehead77]

I know that this will be unpopular but, I don't hate cops. There are some who are complete dicks though. I shoot with a bunch of cops (guns, not dope, lol) and they are a great group of guys. I think that the police force attracts certain people who have a thing for power and are bullies, and the psych exam doesn't always catch them all unfortunately. I completely disagree with the random check-point, it's unconstitutional and just plain wrong. If I break the law and get busted fair and square I can't take it personally. I did it and I was wrong. I think that fear of getting caught can often turn to hate pretty easily. When a cop sees you acting sketchy, or getting belligerent with them, they get scared. They don't know if you are about to shoot them in the face or if you are just scared. I get nervous when I get stopped even if I haven't done anything and they can pick up on this. If you are calm, polite, and confident things will go a lot smoother for you. Unless you get one of those assholes I mentioned earlier. As for refusal to search becoming probable cause, that violates your 5th amendment right to not incriminate yourself as well as your right against unlawful search and seizure. It shouldn't stand up in court.

You live in Canada, right? Maybe you come to the states often, and have experiences about American police officers, but from my experience, the police in Canada are much more laid-back and relaxed. I have never had a bad experience with a cop in Ontario or BC. They were quite courteous, and understanding, even when I had dread-lochs down to the middle of my back. No nosy questions, and no requests to search.

On the other hand, I was searched 90% of the time I was stopped by US cops. Always treated like shit, and always given attitude. This is in about 35 different states too. While traveling, we used to be stopped AT LEAST 20 times over the summer, and searched probably 18 of the 20 times. Why? Because we were not clean-cut, and we LOOK like we do drugs.

Maybe the areas of Canada I was stopped in (Vancouver area, International Falls, outside Toronto, and even further north, up around Dreydon), but of the 6-7 times I was stopped in Canada, it was all pretty tame. These same stops in the US would have resulted in me, anyone else in the car, and the car itself being searched, usually with all my bags/camping equipment/instruments, and even the seats being removed and searched.

Land of the Free? Land of the free humiliating assumptions, and illegal searches.

[Thanat0s]

now in my mind 'safety' means NO COPS...

funny, how that works...

[starglazer33]

Thay are not good but certain people make it sometimes necessary for the safety of general pop. i.e.drunk drivers.






I chose other and this is my brief explanation. Thanks...Sg33

[irish]

The problem with American police forces is they are adopting a militaristic "us against them" attitude. Police work is about helping your community and protecting people's rights, not fighting an enemy. Most are pretty good guys though, just like any other job. Remember,they have their "Cop" personality and their "Home" personality. When they are working, they don't fuck around. It's a dangerous job.

[Coddfish]

just say no. . . . . .

. . . . .to human rights abuse by local state and federal LE BWAhawaha ha heh ha HA!

i think i'll weep now.

[pizzaboy]

Some Dumb-Ass Like Myself (SDALM) rarely drives if he's been drinking, so blockposts/roadbloacks aren't much of bother.

One can only image what the results would be, if opiates (& other drugs) caused such obvious effects from using it as alcohol does.

Actually, the most recent roadblocks I've encountered were to check for freakin safety-belt usage!!

go figure,

Yeah. There was a huge one of those going on in southern Delaware yesterday...they must of had 20 squad cars involved in it. I can't believe that is a proper use of public funds.

[SynthMorph]

Checkpoints are a violation of your rights. You know there's something wrong with your country when your police forces' tac teams are equipped and look indistinguishable from frontline combat troops. 30 years ago this was only seen in third world nations and banana republics. Now, the US has the highest percentage of its population in prisons, the majority being drug related. That place is in desperate need of some policy changes or a revolution. The government should be scared of its people not the other way around. It's sad to see the US government treating its citizens like scum and slowly taking away more and more rights and imposing more laws and controls. What was once such a great, free nation is now turning into a horrible place for the poor-middle class to live in. The divide between rich and poor grows with a fraction of a percent of the rich controlling the majority of the wealth. At this rate it'll be a dictatorship under the guise of democracy in no time.

[vanilla_mlkshake2007]

I hate seatbelts ,They are almost as confining as a pair of handcuffs,only the seatbelt is temporary.I think if I wanna wear one it is my choice.
Actually I was in a drunken driving accident back in 1992 .I went straight over a cliff and the car was standing straight up on its nose.I was so drunk that5 I put the car in nuetral and was trying to push it back up the hill.It even took 2 tow tow trucks to get it out.
Somewhere's I heard that when you are drunk that your body is more limp and therefore you are less likely to fly headfirst through the windshield ,had I been more alert andv sitting up straight.
I really don't know.All I know is I should've been dead.I am not religous at all,but since that accident,I have made a promise to God and myself that because I survived such a terrible accident without even a papercut,that I would no longer drive a car.
I now take taxi cabs or buses and withthe rising price of gas etc....I think I am better off.Oh I have not drank alcohol since that day,during the time which I was also doing cocaine.I haven't done coke since 1995.
WHY?????Because I am a full blooded Opiophile head!I love my opiates and my valiums,and my somas too.I am so much of a better person now,for real.I wish my mom could be alive now then when i was a drunk and a crackhead,or coke user.I messed up my whole families lives.
Now my kids` are no longer seeing me using those drugs or any drugs that aren't prescribed by a DR.

[jdub]

^^ Holy shit! I have heard the whole "drunk/ limp" theory. Just glad you made it. I am sure your mom is proud of you wherever she is.

[WarmCyanide]

btw i think this click it or ticket stuff is bullcrap too edit bullshit

[RxQueen]

i gotta agree with you on the click it or ticket thing, WC. for me personally, i HATE wearing a seatbelt because i'm only 5feet tall. no matter how small the car is, and how much ability the manufacturer gives me to adjust the fit for my body size, the thing lays directly across the side of my throat. i just know that if i'm ever in an accident while wearing it, that it's gonna slice into my neck pretty good. i hate thinking how i might be decapitated, or just get my carotid artery cut so i bleed to death in minutes from an accident where that same seatbelt might've prevented injuries.... if i were a normal sized adult.

not to mention that it's uncomfortable on my boobs whether i'm braless or not. the things just aren't made for someone my size. i won't even get into how nervous i am about the airbag in my steering wheel... dangerous for a shorty like me as well.

[WarmCyanide]

i gotta agree with you on the click it or ticket thing, WC. for me personally, i HATE wearing a seatbelt because i'm only 5feet tall. no matter how small the car is, and how much ability the manufacturer gives me to adjust the fit for my body size, the thing lays directly across the side of my throat. i just know that if i'm ever in an accident while wearing it, that it's gonna slice into my neck pretty good. i hate thinking how i might be decapitated, or just get my carotid artery cut so i bleed to death in minutes from an accident where that same seatbelt might've prevented injuries.... if i were a normal sized adult.

not to mention that it's uncomfortable on my boobs whether i'm braless or not. the things just aren't made for someone my size. i won't even get into how nervous i am about the airbag in my steering wheel... dangerous for a shorty like me as well.


damn thats gotta be annoying. its just the goverments way of keeping us sheep safe by hitting us in the pocket book

[Wretched and Wicked]

I agree with Irish and think he is a wise and cool member. It pisses me off that violent crimes are being committed, houses robbed, women raped, etc. and they are checking people where most have done nothing wrong.

I don't agree with having to wear a seatbelt. Kids-YES, adults can decide what they want. The world is far too overpopulated as it is, survival of the fittest, and the government trying to "help" us by controlling what we put in our bodies, wearing seat belts, etc. is bullshit. You want to help us live longer and be healthy adults, fix the bullshit health care system here in the US.

I understand trying to catch drunk drivers and am all for it. But put more pigs, I mean cops, out on the highway to catch them in the act. Put the rest of the pigs out to help people REALLY being victimized and stop setting up shitty roadblocks that I believe are really meant for entrapment. Thank you for your time.....