Naltrexone detox?

[renton]

Would taking Naltrexone for a moderate opiate addiction help to shorten the time it takes to recover from withdrawls? I'm not talking about the rapid detox done in hospital but taking the pill form for something like a week so instead of a long drawn out wd's it's more intense but short?

[Pantopon Pete]

I did an 8-day Bupe then Naltrex detox at Columbia Hospital in NYC. THe N was more for long term blocking than precipitating wd's, but in my experience, I would say no, it won't really affect duration as much as it will unneccessarily intensify wd symptoms. As most of us know, there's really no miracle cure for the hell of kicking, except more narcotics. If you do the drug, you're gonna get the symptoms, no way around it.

[SynthMorph]

That's probably the worst thing you could do to yourself is take an opioid antagonist. It'll send you straight to hell immediately.

[Poppylvr]

Would taking Naltrexone for a moderate opiate addiction help to shorten the time it takes to recover from withdrawls? I'm not talking about the rapid detox done in hospital but taking the pill form for something like a week so instead of a long drawn out wd's it's more intense but short?

If you have any kind of tolerance at all, taking naltrexone with throw you on the floor in screaming precipitated wd's faster than you can say "fuck me, what IS this shit?"
Were you thinking of taking it close to your last dose of DOC?
I don't think it would shorten your detox any - I think you'd still be miserable for the usual length of time but with an horrible BAM instant wd's start. Sounds like a bad idea to me.
I used Naltrexone years ago tryng to control cravings so I could stay clean. Didn't help (50 mg/day) and made me feel ycuky, off center, not right. I'm using low dose Suboxone right now for the same goal and it works really well.

[Chicago]

yea, I also have heard when off opiates for atleast 10days or so then jumping on the naltraxone for a few days will make your brain go back to normal quicker rather then suffering w/out any sleep for a month or not eating or ur sense of smell.
But like i said u have to be opiate free, not hard 2 get clean but 2 stay clean, some might say then why take it, yea why is right, but just speeds up the brain recovery time.

Would taking Naltrexone for a moderate opiate addiction help to shorten the time it takes to recover from withdrawls? I'm not talking about the rapid detox done in hospital but taking the pill form for something like a week so instead of a long drawn out wd's it's more intense but short?

[Seedy]

i'm meant to be getting on naltrexone in about a week. taking my last 2mg of subs (the fuckers won't let me taper down less than that, 3 days on 4mg then 4 days on 2mg is what they call a "taper". Barbaric!) on monday, then it's 5 days on a clonidine patch (.2mg/day) then onto naltrexone. I'm pretty sure I'll have to take the first dose(s) in front of the nurse after which I'll be feeling pretty shitty, or so i'm lead to believe. :(

So clonidine's pretty good, right? And has anyone had a positive experience on naltrexone? It sounds like some bizarre punishment to me.

[Thanat0s]

oh you poor fucker.
cant you stop this?

[Seedy]

^ I'm sure i could if i put my foot down but i really do need to kick. If i can just take it once, then get a prescription & then make all my appointments, saying i'm still taking it i think i'll be ok. And if naltrex does have the potential to drop tolerance & potentiate at small doses I'll have something to experiment with.

The system here in NZ is strange. I'm not very well informed about the whole treatment. They only mentioned the clonidine patch on friday, picked it up today. I wasn't told when to use it, how it works, precautions, etc. Same when they mentioned the naltrexone. Maybe because i made the mistake of coming across too well informed.

[Woowoo]

They have a therapy where they open up the flesh on your arm and insert a capsule of naltrexone that dissolves slowly over a 4-6 month period. Then they sew you back up. That way if you ever decide to relapse you're SOL because no amount of dope will break through the blocker.

As far as taking naltrexone immediately after stopping use, well that's pretty hardcore. I can sort of see the wisdom in it... you get it the fuck over with. It's an ever more radical approach than cold turkey. Not for me thank you, but if you think you can man-up to doing it, more power to you.

[renton]

I think getting it over with faster would be a better bet at quiting since methadone is one of the hardest to get off because withdrawls go on for weeks.

[antigonemuse]

nice to see you around again renton. i always enjoyed your posts. good luck with the kick. been working on the same for a while now...

peace
anti

[Nate]

They have a therapy where they open up the flesh on your arm and insert a capsule of naltrexone that dissolves slowly over a 4-6 month period. Then they sew you back up. That way if you ever decide to relapse you're SOL because no amount of dope will break through the blocker.

As far as taking naltrexone immediately after stopping use, well that's pretty hardcore. I can sort of see the wisdom in it... you get it the fuck over with. It's an ever more radical approach than cold turkey. Not for me thank you, but if you think you can man-up to doing it, more power to you.

I remeber an opiophile saying that he had this implant, he said it was pointless because he could easily break through it and get high on dope. Maybe he was lying I don't know, that is just what he was claiming.

[renton]

Yeah I quit in sept but had to get a bunch of dental work in march so I sort of relapsed because of the pain killers they put me on. I couldn't believe how quick it was till I started getting dependent on them again, but at least it's only T3's this time and not oxy.

[Chicago]

the patch takes 2 days 2kick in !!!(clonodine)

I took a 50mg of naltrexone after my rapid detox, for 2days, on the 3rd, then I got high, the pill will & can last up to 5days of blocking when u stop taking it, after about 3-4 doses.

put the patch on aSAP, WHEN OFF THE SUBS.
IT's there to stop the sweating & hypertention, if ur b.p drops below 90/70 take it off, I use to put the fuckers all over my arms, like leaches, but I had the .1
.3 are fucken huge

[Seedy]

^^ Thanks for that info. Good 2 know the patch is still kicking in as my wd's are too!
I'm gonna give low dose naltrexone a go if possible. I'll be keeping you's posted.

[Woowoo]

I remeber an opiophile saying that he had this implant, he said it was pointless because he could easily break through it and get high on dope. Maybe he was lying I don't know, that is just what he was claiming.
It could be, but it also could be a psychological effect. I know from experience that when I'm in withdrawal and I eat an OC80, I feel better within 5 minutes. We all know that's pharmacologically impossible, but I swear I feel right as rain in less time than it takes the pill to even begin to work its way into my small intestine.

I've never tried to overcome an opiate blocker so I really don't have much experience in that department. Well, I did once try to overcome a blocking dose of methadone, but methadone isn't really what I think of as a blocker.

[roxi*stardust]

That's probably the worst thing you could do to yourself is take an opioid antagonist. It'll send you straight to hell immediately.

No joke! My frined went to a 3 day detox where they deotxed her with Bupe. They then sent her home with a script of Revia (Naltrexone) and Vistaril. She took the Revia thinking it would be like Bupe and block the w/ds, the truth is all it does is make a blockade on the opioid receptors. Long story short-she took the Revia and within 10-15 minutes she was sicker than hell in w/d that she couldn't break through; 6 OC 20s I gave her didn't help. She went to the ER and told them what happened; they gave her Ativan and told her it would go away on its own. She was ill for 2 days and didn't have enough money to break through the Naltrexone Blockade!!

[monkeyphunk]

if she was ill for two days it must have been something else naltrexone only works for about an hour then it wears off as your body metablizes it so unless she kept takin the naltexone she shouldve been ok in a few hours but it might have been the byuild up of bupe in her sytem then takin the naltrexone sent her into withdrawal but then couldnt help it as she still had the bupe blockin her recptorsNo joke! My frined went to a 3 day detox where they deotxed her with Bupe. They then sent her home with a script of Revia (Naltrexone) and Vistaril. She took the Revia thinking it would be like Bupe and block the w/ds, the truth is all it does is make a blockade on the opioid receptors. Long story short-she took the Revia and within 10-15 minutes she was sicker than hell in w/d that she couldn't break through; 6 OC 20s I gave her didn't help. She went to the ER and told them what happened; they gave her Ativan and told her it would go away on its own. She was ill for 2 days and didn't have enough money to break through the Naltrexone Blockade!!

[bigNasty]

if she was ill for two days it must have been something else naltrexone only works for about an hour then it wears off as your body metablizes it so unless she kept takin the naltexone she shouldve been ok in a few hours but it might have been the byuild up of bupe in her sytem then takin the naltrexone sent her into withdrawal but then couldnt help it as she still had the bupe blockin her recptors
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