SAFE way for a NOOB to get high off a patch?

[KiloByte]

I've been clean from all pharms lately so my tolerance is nothing but I recently aquired a 10 mg 100mcg/h Fent patch. I'd like to have some fun but I'm very paranoid by what I'm reading especially given my tolerance. What's the safest way to take a small dose? Should I not even bother?

[jdub]

Smoke that shit offa foil is ur best bet I would say. START SMALL.



But if you need someone to dispose of them for you that could be arranged (just kidding- cuz I have to be)

[clinton]

maybe trade it For some oxycodone?

[KiloByte]

maybe trade it For some oxycodone?

I never have and never will have a connect for anything good like that, I'm done trying.

Anyway I want to smoke it but will this drive my tolerance through the wall even if I only have acess to 1 patch total?

[Porcupine]

I never have and never will have a connect for anything good like that, I'm done trying.

Anyway I want to smoke it but will this drive my tolerance through the wall even if I only have acess to 1 patch total?

I hear you brother. I can not for the life of me get a good oxy connect.


Why would it drive your tolerance through the wall(roof lol) after one dose?

[jdub]

Anyway I want to smoke it but will this drive my tolerance through the wall even if I only have acess to 1 patch total?

no

[God_Albino]

smoking it once wont fuck up your tolerance, but it might kill you. a couple drops used to do me in for an evening, if you manage to stay alive to get the basics down that fucker should last you a little while.

[KiloByte]

smoking it once wont fuck up your tolerance, but it might kill you. a couple drops used to do me in for an evening, if you manage to stay alive to get the basics down that fucker should last you a little while.

So I cut off the edge, squeeze out the smallest amount possible, then use a lighter to reseal?

[clinton]

thats why I suggested that he trade it.... No reason to die over a high...

[SynthMorph]

The fentanyl family of opioids is very potent. Your chances are better at dying than developing a tolerance on one patch. Be careful with that. Death is very swift with that shit. 100x more powerful than morphine by weight.

[pippin]

becareful... I od'd on a 100mcg patch and I started with small slow hits, but chasing the rush can get the best of you really quick and the next thing ya know you're on your back being awakened by paramedics and you have a million questions being shot at you while that naloxone is cruely pulling away the buzz that at that point.. you will definately need, lol. However I did learn that upon awakening.. do not say "fuck not again" cause that involves abunch of backpeddling that your brain won't be sober enough to catch up with. ;) All honesty be careful... small hits... long pauses to gauge how high you are, and stop when you feel good.

[jdub]

^^ Apparently thats not an option. Add: referring to Clinton's suggestion.

Start w/ a tiny drop and wait an hour. I am reasonably sure you will survive the experience.

I wore one of those fuckers w/ not tolerance and it was the hottest day of the summer and I sweated it into me and puked for 36 hrs. Good times

[Porcupine]

I don't know, I'm just not very farmiliar with Fent and this seems like a very very potent substance.

Well if you're worried about the potency smoking it is a really good idea. The absorption rate is very rapid so you don't have to guess at a dose. Just smoke it until you get fucked, then put the rest down and save it.

[SynthMorph]

Interesting stuff that fent. Shot it up once, very different. Almost no rush, then wait a second and the fucked up opiate feeling rolls over you. I can see how that would be very easy to OD on, for that reason alone.

[KiloByte]

Am I at risk for ODing simply from smoking as little as I can? I mean I have NO tolerance and some you guys are saying even 1 hit is risky. I finished off a Fent lillipop someone gave me many years ago and got basically no effect from it, is there a big differnence between the pops and this?

[SynthMorph]

With no tolerance fent is the worst possible opiate you could be fucking with, except maybe etorphine or carfentanyl but you gotta go to mexico for that shit. You could very well die, no jokes there, try like a pin head of it maybe.

[KiloByte]

Well I'm gonna have to rethink this. I'd never consider selling it though - wouldn't want to be held accountable for the next dumbass who decides to take it all at once.

[KiloByte]

Ok I took a TINY amount, put it on a spoon. Heated it until it started bubbling then took a 1-2 second hit from a straw and I actually think I'm buzzed. WOW!

[clinton]

how do you feel?? High ? Good to know you dosed right... Don't overdo it, have a good night

[KiloByte]

Well I think I'm going to be ready for another in a little bit. If I know that a specific amount won't get me too high is it safe to say doing the same amount over again shouldn't be too much more durastic?

I think I'm mainly relieved to find that I'm not dead. I put on my shoes and went outside ready to walk constanstly if it hit me too hard. :p

[Porcupine]

Well I think I'm going to be ready for another in a little bit. If I know that a specific amount won't get me too high is it safe to say doing the same amount over again shouldn't be too much more durastic?

I think I'm mainly relieved to find that I'm not dead. I put on my shoes and went outside ready to walk constanstly if it hit me too hard. :p

If you lived in Colorado i'd test it with you.

[clinton]

is there anyone with you?

[eveline]

Well I think I'm going to be ready for another in a little bit. If I know that a specific amount won't get me too high is it safe to say doing the same amount over again shouldn't be too much more durastic?

There's still some in your body, so not necessarily... please be careful...

[pippin]

your shoes aren't gonna do shit. I'm sorry, but that's the honest to gods truth. By the time you've realized you've done too much, you're either laying on the floor with some naloxone in your bloodstream and a few mean in uniforms around you, or you know the great secret to life and if theres a god. please be careful and fent is a bitch, you feel sober, but theres still some in your blood. Please be careful, I'd hate to see a fellow opi go down.

[KiloByte]

Well I've been doing little bits here and there for the past couple of hours. It feels great, I have great resepect for this drug and the spoon + straw just seems like the perfect method for a noob. It's probably horribly inefficient but with a drug like this that's a good thing. Smoking a bowl of haze now. :)

Honestly though pippin how much would you say it would take to od? I'm smoking such tiny amounts at a time and I still have not gotten to feeling like how I used to when I would do 60-80 mgs of Roxi. So isn't it safe to take a hit every few mins until I feel a nice buzz going?

[Dan Steely]

It's getting really late/early. Maybe it would be good to hang it up for the night. That stuff really is very dangerous. Even very experienced high tol opi heads fuck up with it. It sounds like you are being smart about it. For now maybe it would be good to accept the small buzz. Don't try to get higher. For me opiates have a cummulative effect that often catch up with me hours after my last hit.

Nice score on that patch. With your low tol you should get to have fun with that a bunch of times.

[pippin]

I agree with dan, put it up and start fresh tomm, but still be careful. I woke up and wanted a nice start to the day, it was hubby's birthday ( :( ) and I took a hit a little longer than the night before, and BAM.. next thing I know I'm being asked my name and birthday and who's president.. then they told me I od'd and let out the 3 words I WILL NEVER live down, I actually popped off at the mouth with "Fuck, Not again!" yeah hubby hasn't let me forget any of this as much as I'd love to. That's why I'm warning you so strongly. And at the time I was no where near a NoOb. I've been taking strong opiates for the better part of a decade and I'm only 22.

[KiloByte]

I agree with dan, put it up and start fresh tomm, but still be careful. I woke up and wanted a nice start to the day, it was hubby's birthday ( :( ) and I took a hit a little longer than the night before, and BAM.. next thing I know I'm being asked my name and birthday and who's president.. then they told me I od'd and let out the 3 words I WILL NEVER live down, I actually popped off at the mouth with "Fuck, Not again!" yeah hubby hasn't let me forget any of this as much as I'd love to. That's why I'm warning you so strongly. And at the time I was no where near a NoOb. I've been taking strong opiates for the better part of a decade and I'm only 22.

Well I took you guys advice and went to sleep - very relaxing rest btw.

So how much do you think you had smoked that night pippin?

[jdub]

Use a square of foil and a straw instead of a spoon.

I shot a whole patch once and woke up 6hrs later w/ my head in my lap. Not smart.

[Fillthee]

Guess it's too late now because you've already started smoking it but I would have just told you to slap that bitch on your skin. I dont have a low tolerance for opiates but its not huge either and I get fucked up just wearing a 100mcg patch. I stick it on until I feel a nice warm buzz. I then take it off and repeat until it wont do much. Then I usually eat the rest. I'm weird tho I hardly get high off of eating it. I get the most out of patches when I just wear them. I havnt tried smoking them yet. I've been too lazy to read how to. I also don't get patches very often...too expensive for me right now to buy a 50 dollar patch.

Anyway please be safe and remember you can always take more but you cant take less. (I'm sure someone else has already said that but still be careful.

[TappyTibbons]

I agree with dan, put it up and start fresh tomm, but still be careful. I woke up and wanted a nice start to the day, it was hubby's birthday ( :( ) and I took a hit a little longer than the night before, and BAM.. next thing I know I'm being asked my name and birthday and who's president.. then they told me I od'd and let out the 3 words I WILL NEVER live down, I actually popped off at the mouth with "Fuck, Not again!" yeah hubby hasn't let me forget any of this as much as I'd love to. That's why I'm warning you so strongly. And at the time I was no where near a NoOb. I've been taking strong opiates for the better part of a decade and I'm only 22.

Don't mean to hijack dudes thread but, pippin, from your posts I always pictured you being like......... mid 30's, I have no clue why. It's not often I see people (other than myself) married so young (me and my wife are both 22 as well)

[reddragon3668]

Follow jdub's advice. Loose the spoon. I doubt your getting much doing it that way. Its a delicate balance ... use foil, put a match head size on the foil, put your lighter about four inches from the bottom and wait until you start hearing it bubble... if its wet, which I am sure it is, this bubbling will be very noticiable. While doing this, have your straw about an 1/8th inch from the foil and as soon as you hear the bubbling, start drawing your hit. Keep moving the flame closer while you draw your hit. You probably can get two hits from it, but wait before doing the second one. Once it turns an amber/brownish color, the hit is done. Be a bit careful cause as it dries and bubbles it is real easy to suck it up into the straw. To prevent this, smear the drop a bit so it sticks better to the foil. Hope this helps, and do be very careful. I don't think a hit like that is going to drop you, but two good ones could, with zero tolerance to it. Your tolerance will rise considerably before you get done with the patch, but if you don't have another one, it will go down quick. Its tolerant people who usually have the trouble cause there is a fine line between "high" and dead with that stuff. Be very very very careful and have fun... alive.

[KiloByte]

This stuff is so fucking amazing! I'm going very easy and only taking a few hits at a time but I can still be completely functional - I got high this morning and was still able to go to the gym later on. I love the patch too, you can leave it out wheverever and hardly anyone will know it's actually a substance more potent than heroin. :D

One more thing, I don't seem to be getting any opiate itch - my number one turn off to pills.

[OxyHydroMorphoneCodone]

There is a very good thread on this subject, but basically take one tiny little drop, by cutting off the corner of the patch, and put it on a square of tin foil to dry. The dried stuff is better for smoking than the wet gel, but be careful and be safe.

[KiloByte]

Honestly now that I think about it, if it werent for these forums I probably would have just chewed a whole patch and ODed. You guys saved my fucking life and I got to have a good time enjoying this drug in the process. Thank you all. :)

[lespaulpower]

Please be really careful with this shit man.. especially if you have no tolerance. An old friend of mine (he was a BIG guy too, about 200-250 lbs) went comatose and died after a week from eating HALF of 75 mcg/hr. patch. :speechles

Start EXTREMELY small.

[Somanax]

Totally off topic

I just bought 24 400mcg Fentora

For the bargain price of 3 buck's:cool:

Tomorrow I'm gonna trade some xanax for 50mcg patche's

I love that this guy has no clue what it is

[OxyHydroMorphoneCodone]

Totally off topic

I just bought 24 400mcg Fentora

For the bargain price of 3 buck's:cool:

Is that the lollipop? I've never heard of a >100mcg duragesic.

[Somanax]

Is that the lollipop? I've never heard of a >100mcg duragesic.

Nah,the fentora are the buccal tab's

Still not bad for the 3 dollar copay

[jdub]

Totally off topic

I just bought 24 400mcg Fentora

For the bargain price of 3 buck's:cool:

Tomorrow I'm gonna trade some xanax for 50mcg patche's

I love that this guy has no clue what it is

U r a very lucky dude.

[KiloByte]

Totally off topic

I just bought 24 400mcg Fentora

For the bargain price of 3 buck's:cool:

Tomorrow I'm gonna trade some xanax for 50mcg patche's

I love that this guy has no clue what it is


You might wanna size down that massive sig, especially the empty space.

[TokinDerrick]

I had always wanted to try fentanyl, finally I get my hands on 3 of the 100mcg patches. I ate half of one (I have a fair tolerance, I can shoot about 80mg+ of oxy at a time, and I can definetly handle a lot of dope in my arm) so I ate 50mcg of this patch and I felt good, but I wasn't even itching, it took me to add three 4mg Diladids to the mix to feel good. the next day I ate a whole 100mcg patch and was just almost there did a 4mg D and was there. I guess I just had my hopes up too high for fentanyl, it was good, but I love heroin more.

[KiloByte]

I had always wanted to try fentanyl, finally I get my hands on 3 of the 100mcg patches. I ate half of one (I have a fair tolerance, I can shoot about 80mg+ of oxy at a time, and I can definetly handle a lot of dope in my arm) so I ate 50mcg of this patch and I felt good, but I wasn't even itching, it took me to add three 4mg Diladids to the mix to feel good. the next day I ate a whole 100mcg patch and was just almost there did a 4mg D and was there. I guess I just had my hopes up too high for fentanyl, it was good, but I love heroin more.

That's absolutely insane, however I think you should try smoking it next time.

[Wretched and Wicked]

This stuff is so fucking amazing! I'm going very easy and only taking a few hits at a time but I can still be completely functional - I got high this morning and was still able to go to the gym later on. I love the patch too, you can leave it out wheverever and hardly anyone will know it's actually a substance more potent than heroin. :D

One more thing, I don't seem to be getting any opiate itch - my number one turn off to pills.

I totally understand what you are saying. I decided to smoke some I had since I don't get more stuff till next week and I don't W/D's It gave me energy and I really like it. I think I just added another monkey to my back. Oh joy! Oh well, all good till it runs out!!!

[chopstix]

I had always wanted to try fentanyl, finally I get my hands on 3 of the 100mcg patches. I ate half of one (I have a fair tolerance, I can shoot about 80mg+ of oxy at a time, and I can definetly handle a lot of dope in my arm) so I ate 50mcg of this patch and I felt good, but I wasn't even itching, it took me to add three 4mg Diladids to the mix to feel good. the next day I ate a whole 100mcg patch and was just almost there did a 4mg D and was there. I guess I just had my hopes up too high for fentanyl, it was good, but I love heroin more.

Same experience, I think H ruins ya for pharms (save MD which is Satan in pill form) if you've used much of it. I went through a 100mcg patch in a couple hours and there's no way I'd pay street prices for one. It was *ok* but not all that. Fent just doesn't have any legs, that's the problem, just when I start to feel it, it's wearing off..

[Tbird921]

100mcg patches are powerfull, if you don't have a decent tolerance they can overwhelm you, I would suggest smoking/eating(smoking better but more chance of o.d. I'd say.) a small small peice, like others have said it's a strange/different feeling, it's not as eurphoric as some opiates IMO.

[Uncle Wiggly]

When you're talking about eating a patch do you mean you're squeezing out the gel and swallowing it? Fentanyl only has something like a 30% bioavailability when swallowed. The best way, short of smoking, is to let the gel sit in your mouth for about 20 minutes without swallowing.

[chopstix]

When you're talking about eating a patch do you mean you're squeezing out the gel and swallowing it? Fentanyl only has something like a 30% bioavailability when swallowed. The best way, short of smoking, is to let the gel sit in your mouth for about 20 minutes without swallowing.

Seconded, I was smoking. And I'm not in anyway downplaying the drug, I think it's very dangerous for those that are opiate naive, it's just, imo, not all that for seasoned junkies (I can get a quarter ounce of h for $100).

Probably a dangerous statement as it's highly subjective..

[Uncle Wiggly]

Seconded, I was smoking. And I'm not in anyway downplaying the drug, I think it's very dangerous for those that are opiate naive, it's just, imo, not all that for seasoned junkies (I can get a quarter ounce of h for $100).

Probably a dangerous statement as it's highly subjective..

I agree with you. I've never had a problem with Fentanyl but I was a "veteran" when I started messing with it. I still started small but moved up very quickly - within a few hours. I just wasn't getting off smoking a drop. No way would I recommend doing more than a tiny amount to some one who's opiate naive.

I've stayed away from H so far but I'd smoke some if it ever came my way. I just don't have any connects left from the old days. They're all either in prison or dead. A few of them were smart enough to play fast, win big and go home early. In retrospect this is a good thing. Not the people being dead or in jail - just not having any connects left. :D

[chopstix]

Probably true wiggs, maybe more than you realize.

I was homeless in Seattle and at one point, through chance, I picked up a pager business because I got popped with someone who was slangin' and I was just the driver; but I knew the connects and I got released a couple weeks before he did.

Car: check
Numbers: check
Clientele: Check!!

I was in business.

One of my customers was an older guy, to me as I was in my 20s; not street smart at all and people would always burn him. I felt bad for him and treated him right. Brain tumor, surgically removed and then cut off his methadone. WTF is a guy to do? He hit the street in his POS little datsun until he met some people, easy mark but I always took care of him 'cause I felt like he got shafted by the UW medical system/Harborview. He was a little slow 'cause they cut a big chunk of his brain out.

Anyone on high doses, intense meds dependent on ins. could find themselves in the same boat. Subs have changed everything, kicking isn't what it used to be, but still: be aware that the system has you by the proverbial balls and anyone on this board could wind up waiting for Jose to call you back. It happens, a lot.

Not directed at anyone, I've just seen this scenario more than once.
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[Uncle Wiggly]

Anyone on high doses, intense meds dependent on ins. could find themselves in the same boat. Subs have changed everything, kicking isn't what it used to be, but still: be aware that the system has you by the proverbial balls and anyone on this board could wind up waiting for Jose to call you back. It happens, a lot.

Not directed at anyone, I've just seen this scenario more than once.
.

I think about that all of the time. It happened to me once and it taught me a lesson that I'll never forget. I thought I had it made because I found a good PM doc and he wasn't afraid to aggressively treat my pain. He had a heart attack and had to retire. I was on a huge amount of Morphine at the time. It's too long of a story to go into now but suffice it to say the following two years were hell. Never say never.

[OxyQueen]

slow and steady wins the race.

Go easy, espcially since you have no tolerance....or you didn't til NOW LOL

[TokinDerrick]

When you're talking about eating a patch do you mean you're squeezing out the gel and swallowing it? Fentanyl only has something like a 30% bioavailability when swallowed. The best way, short of smoking, is to let the gel sit in your mouth for about 20 minutes without swallowing.

the first time I did it I didn't know and just swallowed it, it tasted how I imagined Germ X to taste. anywayz, the second time I squeezed it under my and let it set for about 2 mins, mind you this time it was the whole patch. but at the time I had been doing WAY to much hydromorphone.

[KiloByte]

Well I've been getting high this same patch since Sunday but today something wierd happened. I got up and smoked maybe 2 dots like I've been doing but instead of getting high I became hot, very light headed, and a little nautious. It feels like I stood up way too quickly with almost no euphoria. At first I thought I had ODed or something but it's 15 mins later and I'm OK just still feeling wierd. Is this normal?

[KiloByte]

Ok now it's been another 10 mins or so and the sick feeling is gone and I'm high now. :confused- I smoked some haze and that seemed to help the transition. :D

[samsong]

I get that dizzy, nauseous feeling if I smoke a cigarette right after a few decent hits of fent--not sure why the cigarette does this but if I only smoke like half the cigarette or only inhale lightly I don't get that sick feeling

[KiloByte]

I get that dizzy, nauseous feeling if I smoke a cigarette right after a few decent hits of fent--not sure why the cigarette does this but if I only smoke like half the cigarette or only inhale lightly I don't get that sick feeling

That's interesting however I don't smoke cigarettes.

[frankie]

Well I'm gonna have to rethink this. I'd never consider selling it though - wouldn't want to be held accountable for the next dumbass who decides to take it all at once.
After all that has been said i really hope that you re-think your decision as it might save your life...


frankie
peace :)

[resorcinol]

I get that dizzy, nauseous feeling if I smoke a cigarette right after a few decent hits of fent--not sure why the cigarette does this but if I only smoke like half the cigarette or only inhale lightly I don't get that sick feeling

Yeah that happens to me if I smoke too much tobacco on a solid to high dose of opies, but the right amount of tobacco... below the amount that would make ya sick but enough to enhance the opiate buzz, is heavenly. Enhances the rushes.

[KiloByte]

After all that has been said i really hope that you re-think your decision as it might save your life...


frankie
peace :)

What the hell are you talking about? Isn't it obvious I already decided I wouldn't be doing anything like that?