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Coddfish
05-09-2008, 06:06 PM
some of you might remember me from before i took a year or so break from the board. hello to my ol' buddies who are still here, and hello to my new buddies whom i haven't met yet. i look forward to getting into the swing of things once more.

ANYhoo . . . .i was listening to a documentary on la eme last weekend, and one of the bosses being interviewed said he and his prison buddies had an excercise called "1000 concepts." according to this guy, everyday his group brainstormed 1000 ways--and some of them might be pretty terrible ideas--in which they might make money. while in california prison. high security prison. most of the ideas panned, but some of them worked out. if one of those 1000 ideas worked, it was a successful session.

ok, this is my thought. i am totally totally fucking sick of the status drug users have in this country. i am sick of the policy, sick of the stigma, sick of self-righteous fucks who have power over my life and use it to hurt me. we ALL know the whole government moral/health racket regarding recreational drugs is bullshit.

so, i was wondering and hoping that you wonderful people might join me in coming up with ideas to improve our plight. if change is gonna come, this very place would be a great place for it to start, and the people here would be the ones to bring it about. i firmly believe that.

yes, setting up a forum for people like us to come together is one GREAT FUCKING IDEA. thanks a shitload, bi11i and jacky!

now, what the fuck else can we do? if we can come up with a 1000 ideas, and one of them gets us one step closer to the end of million mile march to improved rights for ourselves, then it's a successful session. between us all, we have unlimited time, a huge range and assloads of resources. any suggestions on what we can do with these?

nick
05-09-2008, 06:23 PM
Cool thread idea man.

and good to see you back.

Hiram
05-09-2008, 07:10 PM
Idea #1. Find an attorney who believes in the cause to join the site and to moderate a separate forum devoted to human rights and legal issues.

Coddfish
05-09-2008, 07:24 PM
Idea #1. Find an attorney who believes in the cause to join the site and to moderate a separate forum devoted to human rights and legal issues.
that's a really fuckin' good one.

nick
05-09-2008, 07:47 PM
Send all the $$$$ you can afford to the DPA.

Coddfish
05-10-2008, 08:31 AM
what's the dpa?

see, i'm sure there are things i can do right now that i'm not already doing. (well, i'm not doing anything right now.)

a lot of the ideas i've come up with revolve around people who are sympathetic to the cause who also want to be in poitics at any level. for example, it'd be nice to have a person or two or three, in this country or others, to support for public office, even if it's only for mayor of a small town, or maybe state representative--or better yet, sheriff or judge. something to get us into policy making no matter the level and no matter the place. start small and work up.

also this: just let the board know about people in your area who are running for office and also have a reasonable drug policy in their platform. i'd support he right person running for just about any office anywhere. jew know?

RxQueen
05-10-2008, 08:37 AM
BE living, breathing proof that opiate addicts don't have to be bottom-of-the-barrel, nonfunctioning, waste-cases who have nothing to contribute to their world or family. because a huge portion of the population truly believes that we all fit that untrue stereotype that the anti-drug propaganda has drilled into their brains. the trouble is that, even when we ARE functional users, we dare not reveal the fact that we are still users unless we're willing to face persecution and legal ramifications.

SurfRat
05-10-2008, 08:46 AM
Originally Posted by Hiram
Idea #1. Find an attorney who believes in the cause to join the site and to moderate a separate forum devoted to human rights and legal issues.

that's a really fuckin' good one.



Yeh it is.




Maybe it's good to remember to remind some people that personal use in your own home is everybody's right in a free country.

nick
05-10-2008, 01:41 PM
what's the dpa?

see, i'm sure there are things i can do right now that i'm not already doing. (well, i'm not doing anything right now.)

a lot of the ideas i've come up with revolve around people who are sympathetic to the cause who also want to be in poitics at any level. for example, it'd be nice to have a person or two or three, in this country or others, to support for public office, even if it's only for mayor of a small town, or maybe state representative--or better yet, sheriff or judge. something to get us into policy making no matter the level and no matter the place. start small and work up.

also this: just let the board know about people in your area who are running for office and also have a reasonable drug policy in their platform. i'd support he right person running for just about any office anywhere. jew know?

drugpolicyalliance.org check it out.They're the probably the most able group fighting prohibition-I think a lot of their funding comes from George Soros,but I'm sure they could use a few more $$$$.

LorTabitha
05-10-2008, 02:15 PM
Idea #1. Find an attorney who believes in the cause to join the site and to moderate a separate forum devoted to human rights and legal issues.

Ditto on finding doctors who believe opiate therapy is legitimate and who are willing to speak up.

Coddfish
05-10-2008, 03:30 PM
i just thought of this one after i woke up from a nap, and i think it's pretty good:

a group of us who write real good comes up with some letters to congress that can be printed off and sent to u.s. reps and senators. we make them available on this site for boardmembers and visitors to download, print off, sign and send. we could have a few to choose from.

Coddfish
05-11-2008, 01:38 PM
thanks nick for the dpa info. it looks like a good place, and it does have some letters that people can send to their reps. maybe there could be more,

Raz
05-11-2008, 01:44 PM
Sadly have to bow out of this one..as my past would hinder, rather than further the cause...
If anyone is interested, try and find the time when the smack addicts of Barcalona mobilised and had a demo, re they had a right to exist etc...

This was not long after the franco era and at the height of the Aids hysteria....Please someone who is more computer savvy than me, have a search for this stuff...Its gotta be out there somewhere..

antigonemuse
05-11-2008, 02:15 PM
cod, glade to see you bac, its been too long

you have given me something to think about.... i will get back to you with some suggestions

Coddfish
05-11-2008, 11:50 PM
happy to see you still here antionemuse^^^^. as a matter of fact, i was specifically hoping you would input something.


i am entirely too fucking retarded to multi-quote (btw, can someone please help the junky cause by teaching me how to work that piece of wizardry!??!? fuck.) or i would quote raz and tell him 'you seem a smart mother. i betchya you could come up with a way for us to push the cause.'


the more you know, ya know???


there are, of course, a lot of things people are already doing that most of us probably don't know. any info on that stuff would be great.

i sleep now.

SynthMorph
05-11-2008, 11:54 PM
Get religious status. Dope is now longer called a drug but a sacrament.

jdub
05-11-2008, 11:56 PM
I am starting to convert my immediate family and close trusted friends (non-junky). I live in San Fran so a lot of people are down for the cause.

antigonemuse
05-12-2008, 03:02 AM
well thank you honey, I try my hardest to work out my noggin.... now i do have some issues with this subject, considering that some people cant handle life and drugs in excess. I know this cause i am one of them. this is what brings me to a more focused area. after all, changes like this start with baby steps. in my case i am a CP who no longer has access to meds cause addiction issues, and am playing into the treatment game.... in the mean time my life is on hold until my name comes up on the methadone list. its been four months, and im only halfway down the list. Im struggling in limbo, scared to leave the house, and relapsing and binging. this is very much a failed system, if addicts are falling in the cracks like this. its all a money market. Ive learned that since starting all this. Its not whats best for me, rather what my medicaid will pay for. and if i dont comply, i get cut off.... thrown back to my life of street copping and living life fix to fix trying to keep my sick off. not even being able to enjoy being high, because iam always working on getting more.

i would want to focus my efforts in helping those in a similar place as me. I can not advocate otherwise. i need to develope this more, and ill come back with something more solid....

nick
05-12-2008, 05:12 AM
Hi Muse,maybe try contacting NAMA they can probably hook you up with advocacy training.

Oh and much luck with the being straight struggle.I wish there was some advice I could give,but I figure you know what I know already.Still,much respect for trying and I'm rooting for you.

antigonemuse
05-12-2008, 05:17 AM
thanks nick, i wish i was doing better at it. i hate to haul blame and say its the systems fault, but some of it is. ithanks for the info! ill check it out


Hi Muse,maybe try contacting NAMA they can probably hook you up with advocacy training.

Oh and much luck with the being straight struggle.I wish there was some advice I could give,but I figure you know what I know already.Still,much respect for trying and I'm rooting for you.

Coddfish
05-12-2008, 07:31 PM
thanks nick, i wish i was doing better at it. i hate to haul blame and say its the systems fault, but some of it is. ithanks for the info! ill check it out
i hate to hear that you're going through so much. some of it's the system's fault. a lot of it.


it's painful to see things like this happen to good people. you don't deserve that. be strong, get through it. it could, after all, always be worse. even when i haven't slept in 3 weeks, and i'm shitting 5 times an hour, and my brain feels like a shattered light bulb, i at least have that: it could always be worse. (another way to look at it: you've got things going for you, things others don't have.)

Hiram
05-12-2008, 09:34 PM
i just thought of this one after i woke up from a nap, and i think it's pretty good:
a group of us who write real good comes up with some letters to congress that can be printed off and sent to u.s. reps and senators. we make them available on this site for boardmembers and visitors to download, print off, sign and send. we could have a few to choose from.
If I'm breaking a rule posting this link, would a mod or admin fix it so it is kosher. On the link is a drafted email or letter to your US House Representative. On the previous page is the link to find out who your representative is for your area. Although this is through NORML in regards to marijuana, it is the first realistic step.
http://capwiz.com/norml2/issues/alert/?alertid=11280351&PROCESS=Take+Action