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mmnyc9
03-05-2006, 03:46 PM
What works for pain? I use Aspirin for Headachs. I have found that Codeine will work for some things like Dental work. Percocet has done the job. Certain things don't work at all for me. Tylenol doesn't help, Morphin does not work even dilaudid did not work when I had it (for pain) what would work?

JunkYardSaint
03-05-2006, 04:00 PM
I've been a Methodone patient for about half my Junky life, and for what it's worth I basically will do a couple of things for pain - aspirin or iboprofin will often work well for headaches - anything more and I will ask for an increase in my dose for pain. When prescribed something for pain, it's usually nothing I can even feel, like codeine or something, I'll take the script in to my Doc and just give it to him, ask him to increase my dose instead. It's fairly common practice to be able to get an increase for pain issues, and when I have them, that's what I do.

Mokelly
03-05-2006, 04:39 PM
What works for pain? I use Aspirin for Headachs. I have found that Codeine will work for some things like Dental work. Percocet has done the job. Certain things don't work at all for me. Tylenol doesn't help, Morphin does not work even dilaudid did not work when I had it (for pain) what would work?

Yeah, some people may be suprised to hear that the dilaudid didn't even work for you're pain, and I would be too since it's what I use, but it's only good for pain relief IV really, unless you plan on taking like 64+mgs orally, cause when you dose it orally you lose a good 75% of it but if you IV it you get all 100 percent.

mmnyc9
03-05-2006, 05:01 PM
Yeah, some people may be suprised to hear that the dilaudid didn't even work for you're pain, and I would be too since it's what I use, but it's only good for pain relief IV really, unless you plan on taking like 64+mgs orally, cause when you dose it orally you lose a good 75% of it but if you IV it you get all 100 percent.

To bad swim had to find this out the hard way. A few years ago swim had a script for 100 2mgs or 4s don't remember the dose, but they were Dilaudid. swim would swallow 5 or more, nothing. swim ate 10 and just fell asleep. This was not for pain though:D

caesee
03-05-2006, 05:56 PM
yeap SWIM has taken many of dils, and didnt really get to much from them...but they are always good for a bargaining tool..:D :D

doctor diesel
03-06-2006, 03:55 AM
What works for pain? I use Aspirin for Headachs. I have found that Codeine will work for some things like Dental work. Percocet has done the job. Certain things don't work at all for me. Tylenol doesn't help, Morphin does not work even dilaudid did not work when I had it (for pain) what would work?

Aspirin is only going to tackle pain if the source of pain is inflammation; ditto ibuprofen. Otherwise... squat.
As for tylenol, I don't think that shit should ever be referred to as a painkiller; IMHO it has only two functions: reduce fever and help potentiate other 'proper' painkillers.
The best readily available painkiller I've found for headaches or general aches is codeine - dosed up to whatever amount it takes to hit the pain.

YourDoc

malefiacrum
03-06-2006, 06:31 AM
I use Aleve for my arthritis when it still acts up above and beyond what my pod usage covers up. I am not sure if it is just because I am new to Aleve, (3 months) but it works wonders for me. That being said, I'd rather take a narcotic anyday for my pain, but this does work well.

What kills me with doctors is that you can't seem to get a prescription for opies for arthritis, they give you anti-inflamitories...for me these work for a few hours, and if I continue to repeat movements or actions that aggrevate the arthritis, they wear off quick, opies on the other hand work all day, no matter what.....

mmnyc9
03-06-2006, 06:58 AM
Aspirin is only going to tackle pain if the source of pain is inflammation; ditto ibuprofen. Otherwise... squat.
As for tylenol, I don't think that shit should ever be referred to as a painkiller; IMHO it has only two functions: reduce fever and help potentiate other 'proper' painkillers.
The best readily available painkiller I've found for headaches or general aches is codeine - dosed up to whatever amount it takes to hit the pain.

YourDoc


Proper Pain killers I like that I can almost here you accent. Aleve is the other thing that works for Headachs, I was very surprised how well one pill worked so well.

Alice Mudgarden
12-11-2006, 02:44 AM
Yeah, some people may be suprised to hear that the dilaudid didn't even work for you're pain, and I would be too since it's what I use, but it's only good for pain relief IV really, unless you plan on taking like 64+mgs orally, cause when you dose it orally you lose a good 75% of it but if you IV it you get all 100 percent.

Not surprising at all. Orally, it didn't do anything for SWIM. Snorting it, on the other hand, did the trick, since SWIM doesn't use needles. I don't even know why doctors prescribe it for oral use, seems like a waste.

Badly Drawn Girl
12-11-2006, 03:02 AM
I take Imitrex for my headaches (migraines), and Neurontin/Soma/Percoset for my chronic pain. Vioxx worked great for me so I was really bummed when it got pulled off the market.

candyshop
12-11-2006, 11:48 AM
whatever i can get my grimy hands on---and truly,not just rationalizing my wants ,opiates are the only thing that controls my (sometimes debilitating ) fibro pain

Ickyuck
12-11-2006, 02:20 PM
I'm assuming you mean for pain-pain, rather than for the recreational job. Personally, I use IBU's for common stuff like girly cramps, old post op aches, etc. For headaches I'll settle for APAP, but generic combos of APAP/asprin/caffeine does the trick really. NSAID's besides IBU, such as alieve, burn my stomach up to a painfull pit. I was also given Voltaren (dicofenac) for myofascial pain that was driving me CRAZY. Did it help? Hell no.

In all, I'm sure if I had a steady supply of T4's for the rest of my life to take just for bad headaches, hangovers, and cramps I'd be stoked. But as we all know, that ain't happenin. So for now I just make sure I always have the generics on hand and use them accordingly to my complaints.

Dilaudid
12-11-2006, 03:40 PM
Hello opiophiles,

I use aspirin or ibuprofen for headaches, acetaminophen/codeine or acetaminophen/tramadol for dental work and I am on sophidone (I am in europe) sophidone is hydromorphone 24mg 12h relase 4 pills a day or on Duragesic or Oxycontin (I do an opioid rotation evrey three month), Amitryptiline (a tricyclic antidepressant who works on neuropathic pain), Neurontin (for neuropatic pain too), and Actiq 800µg for breakthrough pain and Aceclofenac for inflamation.
This works very well for me.

insaneike
12-11-2006, 03:41 PM
Fentnayl is hands down the best pain killer.. for pain! It is TRULY a godsend for chronic pain!(and any pain if u cut them bad boys-patches- open)...

The IV morphine and demerol shots don't even give the releif that smoked fent does!!! Not close!

I would recomend fentnayl and oxycodone to anyone in severe(hell even moderate!) pain! If you got a huge toler try the fent and dialudid mix.. seriously!

later

Frozen
12-28-2006, 03:30 AM
Forget Ibuprofen, acetaminophen and all that other crap
If you're American with little overseas travel, you've probably never heard of Dipyrone. Dipyrone is non-narcotic pain reliever available without prescription, in many countries where the politicians have better things to do than ban harmless medications. It's a non-narcotic analgesic like aspirin, acetaminophen* and ibuprofen, but with one major difference- It actually works.

This highly useful medication was completely banned by the FDA in 1977. Reason? If taken in ridiculously high doses every day, about one in a few thousand people will develop leukemia-like symptoms from this overuse.

Since it can't *gasp* produce a narcotic high, there is little risk of punishment beyond confiscation, if you attempt to bring a stash of dipyrone back with you when travelling abroad. Highly recommended.

*Before someone points out the obvious: Yes, of course I know that acetaminophen (tylenol) is far more dangerous than dipyrone, and can cause severe irreversible liver damage (possibly agonizing death) with just one instance of overuse.
I never said the laws were logical. In the case of the dipyrone ban, someone obviously neglected to pay off the right politicians.

reddragon3668
12-28-2006, 06:54 AM
Wow! This is an old thread... never heard of dipyrone. Sounds useful though. Ibuprofen helps me a great deal. Unfortunately, if I take it more than once a month or so, it makes me feel like someone is running a knife through my belly...

Methadone has been a great pain medicine for me; I've been taking it for five years now. It is a great inexpensive alternative to other long acting narcotics... you just got to find the proper dosage, and have a doctor willing to prescribe it as needed. I take around 240mg a day now... started out with like 20mg a day. Course, as with most "good things," they do come to an end... I think its time for a change... been on it way to long and its not working quite as well.

Recently, my doc gave me some samples of Celebrex.. I guess over the years I have developed some arthritisis issues... cause it (celebrex) has been a wonder drug... as with most of those, they usually loose their "wonder" fairly quick, but I am going to enjoy it while it last. Just hope I don't get heart trouble or some of the great "vioxx"(sp) like symptoms!

moviebuff927
12-28-2006, 07:39 AM
As for tylenol, I don't think that shit should ever be referred to as a painkiller; IMHO it has only two functions: reduce fever and help potentiate other 'proper' painkillers.
The best readily available painkiller I've found for headaches or general aches is codeine - dosed up to whatever amount it takes to hit the pain.

YourDoc

Amen to that. Calling Tylenol a painkiller is like calling dog shit "ice cream". Just doesn't cut it.

Papa Verine
12-28-2006, 10:05 AM
Wow! This is an old thread... never heard of dipyrone. Sounds useful though. Ibuprofen helps me a great deal. Unfortunately, if I take it more than once a month or so, it makes me feel like someone is running a knife through my belly...

Methadone has been a great pain medicine for me; I've been taking it for five years now. It is a great inexpensive alternative to other long acting narcotics... you just got to find the proper dosage, and have a doctor willing to prescribe it as needed. I take around 240mg a day now... started out with like 20mg a day. Course, as with most "good things," they do come to an end... I think its time for a change... been on it way to long and its not working quite as well.

Recently, my doc gave me some samples of Celebrex.. I guess over the years I have developed some arthritisis issues... cause it (celebrex) has been a wonder drug... as with most of those, they usually loose their "wonder" fairly quick, but I am going to enjoy it while it last. Just hope I don't get heart trouble or some of the great "vioxx"(sp) like symptoms!

Celebrex works great on pain for me too. My sister is a doc. and she won't give me anything good but I have all the Celebrex I want as long as the samples keep coming. I assume that one day (20 years?) Celecoxib will be OTC.

nick
12-28-2006, 10:31 AM
with a bit of luck in 20 years H will be OTC.

-Skrilla-
12-28-2006, 12:39 PM
I have a friend with a fucked up disc in his lower back, they are talking about fusing his spine...He is prescribed done and lortabs for his pain, does this sound strange to anyone? The done isn't helping with all of his pain. I assume done blocks receptors and would almost make the lors obsoloete with the amount of dose he has been taking for over a year(around 60-75 mg of done daily). He doesn't even take the lors, i guess because they don't do much for him.

Now, I assume he has to take a breakthrough pain killer because he has the done in his sytem. Asking the doc to switch his lors to something else stronger might lead to another addiciton as he would have to take breakthrough doses to feel anything....What is the best way to go about switching to a better painkiller that will breakthrough the done, and won't cause too much discomfort getting off the done. We all know done is a bitch to kick, as I have been there and can tell you first hand... The dilemma lies with him being prescribed an addictive substance like done, which if I am correct, isn't the best painkiller in the first place...

thanks
-Skrill

insaneike
12-29-2006, 11:56 PM
My last visit with a pain clinic they let me choose between msContin and 'Dones with Lortab. THe wouldn't giv eme fent(aint going back there lol). It should be really easy for him to get Avenza or Kadiens if he doesn't want the 'dones anymore!

and yeah, on doses kinda alrge other opis aren't really going to work, maybe shit like fent or IV smack, and still, it's not gonna be like it should lol. I read on doses of 80g+ is when the other opis start being blocked, but I've also talked to some of u who notice this form liek just 65mg... I've never eprsonaly went over 65 or 75mg, and usualy around 30mg/day with my other opis and the done is a VERY good potenator for me! Even for dope!

I'd just go talk with the doc about it, cause 'done doesn't help my pain the least but either. Well, it's about the same as morphine to me if both are compared in moderate or intended doses... in analgesic affects that is!!! Good luck with the whole deal, if your friend has to go through just half the shit I have and am about being adequaetly medicated you'll need it!!

chemboy7
12-30-2006, 01:09 AM
The pain killer that I use is the strongest/longest lasting/most economical thing I can get my hands on at the moment, I'm purely a recreatuonal user though. When it comes to CP what medication and what amount of it is going to b needed is going to vary greatly from person to person. I think that most people respone best to the morphinone type Opaites with something like an IR version of oxy of Hydrocodone for breakthrough pain but it's all subjective, what works for you is going to be what works for you. You and your doctor may have to go thhrough a little bit of trial and error before you finally find something that works best for you.