Codeine Feedback

[zombiewoof23]

I mentioned in the other thread that SWIM is getting some 15mg codeine sulphate tabs here pretty soon. SWIM has no experience with these and felt the need to try them out, because of the price factor. After reading erowid on dosages and such, SWIM will prlly start at 150mg or more. SWIM is wondering about other people's experiences with codeine. What are the negative side affects? SWIM does fine with hydro's, perc's, etc. Was wondering if codeine as rougher on the stomach than these, or any other potentially negative side affect. Also is codeine good to mix with hydro's? My theory is you would prlly need less of the codeine, and you would also get less of the acetimenophen. SWIM is a not a heavy user of opiates. Even less than a weekend warrior at this point, so tolerance is not a factor yet. Just looking for feedback on this form of opie.

[doctor diesel]

I mentioned in the other thread that SWIM is getting some 15mg codeine sulphate tabs here pretty soon. SWIM has no experience with these and felt the need to try them out, because of the price factor. After reading erowid on dosages and such, SWIM will prlly start at 150mg or more. SWIM is wondering about other people's experiences with codeine. What are the negative side affects? SWIM does fine with hydro's, perc's, etc. Was wondering if codeine as rougher on the stomach than these, or any other potentially negative side affect. Also is codeine good to mix with hydro's? My theory is you would prlly need less of the codeine, and you would also get less of the acetimenophen. SWIM is a not a heavy user of opiates. Even less than a weekend warrior at this point, so tolerance is not a factor yet. Just looking for feedback on this form of opie.

If you've no or little tolerance, do 100mg first off, rather than 150mg. With no tolerance these are very pleasant indeed, should last 2-3 hours, and shouldn't give any obvious bad side effects other than the itches, dry mouth and a blocked butthole. I never suffered from my stomach with codeine (or with anything else for that matter).

Your Doctor. :)

[zombiewoof23]

I've never had any trouble with anything else. SWIM will start off with around 100mg. I figured since erowid said 30-60mg just to see how your body reacts to them and 250mg is the comfortable dose, I would assume to regular codeine user. Assuming codeine is still getting it for them. Hydro's, perc's or anything else I've had has not really messed with my stomach, so I feel like I should be good to go. I'll let you know how it turns out. Haven't had any opes for more than a month now.

[doctor diesel]

Hey Zombie, I think codeine is much underrated and much maligned. Of course you won't see stars with it, but it's a heck of a lot safer to fuck around with than many of the substances discussed here, and if you're none tolerant and looking to feel nice and lift your spirits... then go for it!

YourDoc

[zombiewoof23]

Hey Zombie, I think codeine is much underrated and much maligned. Of course you won't see stars with it, but it's a heck of a lot safer to fuck around with than many of the substances discussed here, and if you're none tolerant and looking to feel nice and lift your spirits... then go for it!

YourDoc

I'm pretty limited as to what I have access to. Being a professional middle class type with a conservative wife in a small town definitely keeps me out of trouble. She was around when I used to party like a rock star and was tolerant back in the day. Marriage changes everything....lol

[shaunclo]

I always hear about people taking 300 plus mg's of codiene, I dont understand this. I dont consider myself opiate naive and if I take 100 mg, its nice, not great.....but nice. I dont think my stomach could handle more than 150 mg of codiene. I think I would throw up. I would consider to try 60-90 mg's to start off. You can always add to it, but if you take too much at first, you might end up bowing to the porcelian god.

[zombiewoof23]

100 mg's it is for starters. If that doesn't work or comes back up, then off to the xanie bars I say! Appreciate the feedback.

[ontario_opiophile]

Yah 100mg should be good as long as you've had codeine before. It makes me extremely itchy and constipated. I know all opiates do too but codeine is pretty bad. It also gives me a dirty feeling. Kind of like a demerol overdose. lol. If I take 100mg and wait 15-20mins i'll feel pretty good but after like 20 mins of being buzzed it turns into that dirty, overdose feeling. It reminds me alot of demerol but with itchiness and less of a toxic feeling to it. Codeine is underrated though and If i were one of the people who could tolerate it i'm sure I would really like it. It's basically morphine light. lol. It can be very strong and addictive. I know somemone who's been addicted to codeine for 30 years and he doesn't choose anything else over it. It all depends on the person I guess. For some it can be heavenly, and for others it can be weak, or sickening. But all in all, it is a decent opiate. It's very easy to get too. I can buy it over the counter here. It would be interesting if somemone would buy a fuckload of it and try to turn it into morphine or diacetylmorphine or 6MAM or some sort of stronger drug. Codeine really hurts the stomach too. It's the only opiate that hurts my stomach. I'm not quite sure why that is but it does. I have a strong stomach too. I never eat before taking medications of any kind and I never notice any stomach problems except with codeine. Have a pleasant experience with the codeine and be safe. :)

[renton]

yeah I've enjoyed codeine for awhile now and it's definatly up to the individual. Some people find it makes them really sick and depressed, or could be there allergic to it which is fairly common. I usually take a dose of 250mg and sometimes it gets me smashed other times just a bit buzzed, cause it's so weak it can be hard to feel it sometimes. But yeah for me it definatly hurts my stomach so I'm sure to take lots of antacids and milk. :)

[doctor diesel]

I'm pretty limited as to what I have access to. Being a professional middle class type with a conservative wife in a small town definitely keeps me out of trouble. She was around when I used to party like a rock star and was tolerant back in the day. Marriage changes everything....lol

Hey Zombie - you sound exactly like me!

YourDoc :D

[zombiewoof23]

Hey Zombie - you sound exactly like me!

YourDoc :D

Yep, no complaints from me doc, just the facts. Still like a good buzz though. Just have to be a little more careful, and time it right. If I'm sitting there scratching myself until I bleed, she will know somethings up. I shredded my back last time I tried the pods. Woke up with blood all over my t-shirt. Kinda hard to play that off. She thought I got my ass kicked by a bunch of cats..... ;)

[zombiewoof23]

yeah I've enjoyed codeine for awhile now and it's definatly up to the individual. Some people find it makes them really sick and depressed, or could be there allergic to it which is fairly common. I usually take a dose of 250mg and sometimes it gets me smashed other times just a bit buzzed, cause it's so weak it can be hard to feel it sometimes. But yeah for me it definatly hurts my stomach so I'm sure to take lots of antacids and milk. :)

Is it possible to be allergic to codeine and do fine with oxycodone and such? I do recall having tylonel 3's, I think it was, when I was younger and they messed with my stomach. Not a nauseous feeling, but like a hole in my stomach or something. I get the same feeling when I mix pop and alcohol. I think my body doesn't like the combo of the syrup that's in the pop mixed with alcohol. I'm hoping the codeine works out. Like with the pods, I couldn't keep the tea down (stinky or regular), but did fine using the tincture method. SWIM will just have to experiment with his body chemistry. Glad I asked though, before I did something like jumping right in at 250mg or something.

[zombiewoof23]

Okay, SWIM finally got his codeine. Had his expectations set way too high...lol Started off with 105 mg's. Got a warm feeling and that was about it. SWIM could get a warm feeling from a couple of drinks and prlly save some money....lol SWIM will prlly double the dose next time, but he thinks he got himself all worked up in anticipation over kid's stuff. Seems like a good thing to put in a first aid kit though. Not worth the trouble so far. :rolleyes:

[ontario_opiophile]

I wouldnt write it off just yet. Codeine is pretty good for some people. I can't use it cuz it kills my stomach but I can see it giving a decent buzz if you take enough.

[satori]

Is it possible that its not codeine? i know this sounds strange but i have seen SOME (a few out of say.. 30) pills where i thought they might be imposters. Also, are you extracting? if extracting you can mess up and not even get but maybe 10mg of codeine if filter gets clogged or codeine didnt get out of mix. Even when i was on oxy i could feel 90mg of codeine. 120 felt better, but i could still feel it fairly well.

[zombiewoof23]

Is it possible that its not codeine? i know this sounds strange but i have seen SOME (a few out of say.. 30) pills where i thought they might be imposters. Also, are you extracting? if extracting you can mess up and not even get but maybe 10mg of codeine if filter gets clogged or codeine didnt get out of mix. Even when i was on oxy i could feel 90mg of codeine. 120 felt better, but i could still feel it fairly well.

It came in the codeine sulphate packs, unopened. It did have an opiate feel, just not much. The pills are small, white, and have a C on one side. The foil packaging is too formal to be fake. Also the xanax from the same source are awesome. SWIM is not extracting. SWIM did crush the pills and diluted them in water and chugged it. Figured that would help the stomach discomfort having a small amount of fluid in the gut as opposed to a bunch of pills sitting there. SWIM will try a larger dose next time and will prlly puff a little green with it. SWIM is still by far a rookie with the opiate scene. I'll report on SWIM's next try at a higher dosage. Also SWIM may try a vic or two along with the codeine. Also does anybody know whether there is a difference in absorption of Codeine Sulphate as opposed to Codeine Phospate. SWIM hasn't given up completely, he was just amused that he got so excited and was wondering if he was sober or not after that first experience. The euphoria SWIM was looking far was definitely not there for him at that dosage level. :cool:

[THEPAINTER1960]

Back when i would come across codiene the rule of thumb around this part of town was to do 4 tylenol 4's . I believe that one tylenol 4 is 60 millagrams of codiene phospate.

[Miggeth]

My first experience with codeine shocked me, I took two, yes just two, co-codamol 500/8's and I was up all night thinking this is the best narcotic rush since ecstacy. I remember thinking maybe they made a mistake at the factory, forgot to put in the paracetamol, and made a batch of pure codeine tablets, because I felt amazing on just 16mg.

Then I got some Zantac 500/30's and ended up on the floor of the bathroom at work for about half an hour thinking how soft the floor feels on my face.

Now, I have controlled my tolerence because I really don't want to get shit-faced, so I just extract 50 mg every now and again and wonder round with an enigmatic grin on my face.

[Canis aureus]

I pretty much like codeine... but my dose is that up 300mg's, and never feel bad (histamine reaction, too itchy), unless constipated is counted...

[Miggeth]

How do you know if you have a histamine reaction?

[zombiewoof23]

How do you know if you have a histamine reaction?

The histamine reaction is what causes the itches. It's kinda like a mild allergic reaction. SWIM gets them the worst from the pods. SWIM is still by far opie naive, but those have been the worst so far. SWIM noticed that benedryl (anti-histamine) really helps with the itches. SWIM also takes celebrex for allergies, that prlly helps as well. Funny because the only thing that truly helps with my natural allergies and actually completely relieves my symptoms is taking garlic capsules twice a day. I really don't know why I still take the celebrex....lol As far as the itching side affect from the opie's, benedryl is the way to go for SWIM.

[zombiewoof23]

The histamine reaction is what causes the itches. It's kinda like a mild allergic reaction. SWIM gets them the worst from the pods. SWIM is still by far opie naive, but those have been the worst so far. SWIM noticed that benedryl (anti-histamine) really helps with the itches. SWIM also takes celebrex for allergies, that prlly helps as well. Funny because the only thing that truly helps with my natural allergies and actually completely relieves my symptoms is taking garlic capsules twice a day. I really don't know why I still take the celebrex....lol As far as the itching side affect from the opie's, benedryl is the way to go for SWIM.

Correction on my prescribed allergy medication. It is actually clarinex not celebrex. I have know idea what celebrex even it. Must be those pesky "Ask your doctor for...." commercials that got me thinking of it.....lol

[zombiewoof23]

SWIM had a little better codeine experience the second time tonight. SWIM took 255 mg's of the 15mg codeine sulphates. That definitely did the trick for a few hours. Very nice buzz, no stomach upset, and very little itching, because SWIM took 2 benedryl along with the codeine. Very nice high for a half ass weekend warrior. SWIM thought it was an excellent combo with some good nugs.

[ontario_opiophile]

I never take Benadryl with Opies. I won't do anything that alters the buzz of my Opies unless it's for the better. Benadryl makes me fall asleep and sedates me and ruins the effects but thats just what I think. I really like itching, believe it or not. I think it feels really good to itch when your on opies. I love rubbing my nose every 3 seconds and scratching my back with a fork! lmao it's soooooo relieving. I love the histamines, i love them. I don't think it's neccesarily a bad thing to have histamine release. It just makes people itchy as a Saigon whore. Everyone has their own preferences though and I can see why some people would not like to feel itchy every second of their high or in some cases, every second of the day. I feel itchy everyday all day and I have for years and I like it. It's just part of the feeling, and the ritual. When I take my dose I feel the itch coming on it's the first sign of progress. Just some thoughts. Who else doesn't take Benedryl or any opie altering drugs unless it's for the better?

[Miggeth]

Heh, you like the itching? I don't get them too bad anyway.

I just extracted 32 tabs with 8 mg each in them, these are different from what I usually get though and I'm not geting a very good seperation after chilling, so I'm spending alot of time filtering and making sure its clear.

I was high all day yesterday, I ate first and it seemed to act as a slow release system, I even went round to my mums and washed her car for her, high as a kite. I looked in her bathromm mirror and my pupils were like pinpricks. I felt great though, usually I'm pretty quiet, but I was bouncing all over the place yesterday. More of the same today, hopefully. :)

[zombiewoof23]

Okay the second time around with the codeine sulphates was not as good of an experience. SWIM took 270 mg's at a friends house about 40 minutes after eating supper at around 7:30pm. The buzz was great, definitely got euphoric after smoking some nugs with it. Went home around 11:00, still buzzed, nothing crazy though. Drank a protein drink, ate a couple of prunes, drank some water and went to bed shortly after. SWIM's mouth was dry throughout the night and he periodically got up to get a drink of water. He noticed that his stomach was gurgling an awful lot and he could here the fluids swishing around in his stomach all night. Finally started to feel nauseous around 6:15am and the tossed his cookies at 6:30am. Tossed everything he had tried to eat from about 11:00pm the previous night. SWIM does not want to repeat this experience. The first one was fine. The method of ingestion was slightly different the second time. The first time SWIM broke up the 255 mg's worth of tabs and dissolved them in water the best he could and chugged it, very little on his stomach. Got a rush using that method. The second time SWIM just popped 270 mg's of the tabs whole after eating and ended up with these shitty results. Had a slight hangover the next day too. Has anybody else had similar experience or prefer one method to another. My dissolving in water wasn't too scientific or anything, but the results were much better. SWIM could have crossed the line with his low tolerance too. Still have 300 mg's and don't know if he'll eat em or not.....lol It's kinda like getting food poisoning at this point, just don't have the urge to repeat that last experience any time soon.

[zombiewoof23]

Oh yeah, no benedryl the second time either! The itching was tolerable and kinda soothing.

[northernstar]

My first experience with codeine shocked me, I took two, yes just two, co-codamol 500/8's and I was up all night thinking this is the best narcotic rush since ecstacy. I remember thinking maybe they made a mistake at the factory, forgot to put in the paracetamol, and made a batch of pure codeine tablets, because I felt amazing on just 16mg.

Then I got some Zantac 500/30's and ended up on the floor of the bathroom at work for about half an hour thinking how soft the floor feels on my face.

Now, I have controlled my tolerence because I really don't want to get shit-faced, so I just extract 50 mg every now and again and wonder round with an enigmatic grin on my face.

whats this co-codamol? i got 500 mg codiene phosphate....the biotran kind