Is It Possible To Have Drugs Mailed Safely?

[The_Tortured_Soul]

In a purely hypothetical situation, would it be comepletly retarded to have someone mail some Loracet to you if you trust the person, they trust you, and they put a fake return adress on the shipment? I mean, would it get opened for some reason by the authorities? Hypothetically, lets say it was being mailed within the US and it is just a small, inconspicuous pakage. I mean so many pakages get mailed everyday, that I doubt they are able to know what pakages contain drugs. It doesn't even have a smell to it like reefer, cocaine or heroin, so I doubt a dog would smell it, if they even had the resources to have dogs smell every single pakage mailed throughout the USA. If for some weird reason it was discovered, I don't see how it could be traced to the sender, so that party should be safe most definitely and as for the person it was being shipped to, perhaps the authorities would contact them, but I don't think they would have enough evidence to actually do anything to you.

I mean, couldn't you just play dumb and be like I don't know anyone sending me pills. That's really fucking weird! Leave me alone and I don't have to talk to you. If they arrest you and you don't say anything to the pigs then anybody should be able to get you off at a pretty reasonable price. I mean if it is just a weaker opiod drug like Vicodin or Loracet, then I doubt it would really be that big of a priority, especially if it was just 10 or less of the pills. Obviously just a personal supply, not any drug dealing conspiracy. I am not encouraging anybody to break the law, nor am I planning any shananigans, I am just curious about how musch faith one can put in the US Post Office. If anyone has any information that might be informative, then please post it here. I don't think it would be risky, but there is a little bit of that feeling that it would be a bad idea to do in the back of my mind. I'd say no, but that might just be me being a paranoid individual. Any thoughts to add?

[SpecialGuy69]

no sweat- happens every day. Just get a small bubble mailer envelope, put the pills loose in there if its less than 15 or so. Put a REAL name and return address (not yours). Pay cash and use USPS overnight. Costs less than 20 bucks.

No problem.

Even if for some insane reason the package was intercepted, you say your friend is traveling to your house in a few days- and he is worried that his luggage might get lost with his meds inside, leaving him with nothing, so he sent some pills ahead.

[clinton]

make sure the pills are well protected and also make sure that the pills do not bounce around while in the envelope

[EleusisII]

QUIT BEING A PUSSY! ;)

Yes, drugs and pills are shipped every day, probably thousands of letters, with no problems.

Yes it's safe.

Mail is AFAIK very safe. It's illegal, even for a cop, to open a letter without a warrant.

Use a CD case for the pills, that's probably the easiest/least inconspicious.

Between us opiophiles on this board, we've probably recieved thousands of pills through the mail, whether the source is a friend, and Internet pharmacy, or something completely different. I haven't heard of any problems yet.

And if worst comes to worst, good luck for the coppers trying to PROVE that you willfully signed up as a recipient for said package/letter.

[Papa Verine]

Mail way, mail away, mail away...

[SurfRat]

It can be risky...

The safest way would be to send me a test package and I will let you know if it arrives ok.:)


I USPS overnighted an urgently needed musical CD and it took two days anyway, so I figure Priority
Mail is just as good and less expensive.
In other threads re. this question the collective wisdom said overnight USPS was the way to go.
Some have also suggested foil or metal containers to block xrays.

I do not think seizing small amounts of pills is much of a priority right now. The biggest problem these days is identity theft, or mail carriers getting robbed and stuff like that.

But sending pills is a crime so don't do it.

[EleusisII]

Oh yeah: Use USPS, NOT fedex or any other shipping-company.

US law is really good on mail, offers a lot of protections against the pigs opening you mail etc. BUT for some reason, those only apply to USPS, and not any private carrier...

[allover]

Feel free to mail stuff, however if you want to be absolutely sure, UPS or FedEX overnight. I know at least from a friend who used to work at FedEx therefore I would assume UPS as well, if you overnight through either of these services you WILL be fine. When something is overnighted through FedEx they simply don't have the time to have packages inspected. However, I would highly doubt that you would catch heat through the mail either unless you are drawing heat in other ways in the first place. As others have said in this thread, mail is just fine, but I just can't say that through experience/knowledge from employees.

[EleusisII]

^^^^
Yeah, but unlike with USPS, the pigs can open his mail...

[Uncle Wiggly]

^^^^
Yeah, but unlike with USPS, the pigs can open his mail...

^^^ USPS is a branch of the Federal Government and gets all the protection afforded by that status. The other shipping companies don't have that kind of protection.

[The_Tortured_Soul]

Hey, thanks opiophiles. I would use USPS if I were do do this, but I doubt I have to do overnight. Either way they can't open the package. I prefer the one that cost $5 to ship and arrives withinn three days. I'm cheap. I'd hate to get a good price on pills then defeat the purpose with $20 shipping, besides I don't have $20. lol. I had a feeling I was just being paranoid. Another piece of advice, be home when the mail comes if you live with facist parents who ignore the law and open your mail. Hunter Thompson and his attorney and many others used to mail LSD all the time, without problems. Thanks.

[The_Tortured_Soul]

It can be risky...

The safest way would be to send me a test package and I will let you know if it arrives ok.:)


I USPS overnighted an urgently needed musical CD and it took two days anyway, so I figure Priority
Mail is just as good and less expensive.
In other threads re. this question the collective wisdom said overnight USPS was the way to go.
Some have also suggested foil or metal containers to block xrays.

I do not think seizing small amounts of pills is much of a priority right now. The biggest problem these days is identity theft, or mail carriers getting robbed and stuff like that.

But sending pills is a crime so don't do it.


Thanks for looking out man. I'll be sure to set that up ASAP. Now you just need to give me your address or PO Box. Thanks for taking risk for my pussy ass. Good times. LOL.

[jdub]

Hey, thanks opiophiles. I would use USPS if I were do do this, but I doubt I have to do overnight. Either way they can't open the package. I prefer the one that cost $5 to ship and arrives withinn three days. I'm cheap. I'd hate to get a good price on pills then defeat the purpose with $20 shipping, besides I don't have $20. lol. I had a feeling I was just being paranoid. Another piece of advice, be home when the mail comes if you live with facist parents who ignore the law and open your mail. Hunter Thompson and his attorney and many others used to mail LSD all the time, without problems. Thanks.

Yeah but imagine getting your whole package took becuz you were too cheap to overnight. IMO that is one of the RULES of shipping.

And mailing sheets of acid may be the easiest drug to conceal.

[jwalm]

i use to work for Fedex and I would open packages daily with wrong or incomplete addresses to look for further information (invoice, packing slip, etc.) to get a hold of the shipper of recipient. Although we never pay attention to the contents in the package, but if we did happen to notice drugs were in the package I had full authority to let my manager know and he could legally contact the police, maybe leading to the arrest of someone. Of course any package I opened that had drugs in it I told nobody and taped the package up and sent it on its way if I found the correct recipients address, or sent the package back to the shipper.

[Saint]

I did it several times. Had a friend mail me lots of benzo's when I was abroad. Everything went perfectly ok until the third time. Package never arrived.. I'm pretty damn sure my friend isn't the sort that wouldn't have sent it in the first place so either the authoroties or a neighbour (post was simply left on stairs inside building by postman) was getting high on my supply at the time.

Come to think of it, maybe it was the postman himself..

[Raz]

Ya cant trust the mail system over here....Its good for goin out of spain, but stuff comin in is a different game....More of a hit an miss kinda ting....Although swim sent some nicky lowder to montreal ok...

[Thanat0s]

mail in the US has never been a prob, if nervous use a priority or express service OR a private carrier like fedEx or Ups... just dont tell em its droogs!

[Princess]

I've found that Priority Mail or USPS overnight is the best way to go.
I had a friend visit me from Californis last June. She forgot her prescription bottle of valium, a whopping 4 pills. I took them out of the bottle (for easier shipping, stuck them in a small bubble mailer and dropped them in the mail (*regular* mail). This was June of '07. The package arrived, unharmed in MARCH of '08!
During that time period (while her valium was in transit) she & I used overnight and priority for various things and had no problems.
I wouldn't worry unless you were sending something *really* illegal.

**I should mention this was from AZ to CA.....

[eerased]

It's imo the safest way to get/ship pills. My friend mails pills a few times a week. Regular post or overnight.

He never even puts a return addy!

[ZodiacKiller]

The way I look at it, the USPS is the way to go, but I always use overnight whenever possible.

Look at it this way: the less hands on your package, the better, right? Overnight ensure that your package will be handled swiftly with the utmost importance. Plus you get all the tracking info, so if something were to go wrong, you'd be able to figure out where & when.

I've heard that both Fed-ex and UPS have officers inspecting packages, and sometimes with sniffer-dogs. The government can't afford that kind of thing, and as long as your mailing within the country, it'll never happen. I have a friend that has worked at the biggest USPS distro center in the city, and he says that not once has he seen a single package get inspected or seized.


ZK

[jdub]

^^ My friend was a mail man in San Diego and he told me a couple of stories about finding drugs. If he found them, he would take them. If his boss or someone else found them, they would get the authorities involved.

I know ppl that work in the mail distribution center in Oakland and he says ppl in there straight up steal stuff regularly.

[Cherry's Jubilee]

what does the little pencil thing in the corner next to the thread title mean? i know it says "security, uspo" but what's it for?

[ZodiacKiller]

^^ My friend was a mail man in San Diego and he told me a couple of stories about finding drugs. If he found them, he would take them. If his boss or someone else found them, they would get the authorities involved.

I know ppl that work in the mail distribution center in Oakland and he says ppl in there straight up steal stuff regularly.

That's why the Overnight service is best. They treat it nothing near the way they treat ordinary mail. As long as it's packaged good (nothing rattling around inside, nothing shaped like a pill-bottle, etc..). Plus it's not even delivered by your ordinary mailman---it comes via a special guy.

Oh, yeah, and don't forget to check the 'waive signature' box, or else you'll have to sign for it, and if you're not home, it goes back to the Post Office for you to pick up or indicate re-delivery. Always check that little box that says 'waive signature'---always!


ZK

[allover]

^^^^
Yeah, but unlike with USPS, the pigs can open his mail...


All I can tell you is that I had a friend who worked for Fedex. He told me that packages are NEVER sniffed by dogs or anything like that. Also, they deal in overnighting stuff across the country, they don't even have the time to inspect packages if they wanted to. Also, as others have said, the postal service is just damn un reliable, but what do you expect from a government office. I know plenty of friends who have had countless packages sent through FedEx and UPS without a problem, EVER. It's also ALWAYS there on time as well.

[jdub]

That's why the Overnight service is best. They treat it nothing near the way they treat ordinary mail. As long as it's packaged good (nothing rattling around inside, nothing shaped like a pill-bottle, etc..). Plus it's not even delivered by your ordinary mailman---it comes via a special guy.

Oh, yeah, and don't forget to check the 'waive signature' box, or else you'll have to sign for it, and if you're not home, it goes back to the Post Office for you to pick up or indicate re-delivery. Always check that little box that says 'waive signature'---always!


ZK


Yup thats why I said overnight is a must on the 1st page of the thread. They don't have time to do anything w/ your package but deliver it.

[HowLongIsTooLong]

Think of the sheer volume of the mails... if your package isn't dripping resin or vibrating or something, I think it should sail right through.

D

[The_Tortured_Soul]

Awesome flow of conversation here. Thanks. This site is my new favorite site right alongside Erowids now. Yeah, they really couldn't possibly have time to inspect all the packages as long as it is not suspicious looking, that's should be all that matters. If it isn't weed smelling up the Post Office then it should be fine. Cool beans.

[handsome rob]

Swim have used UPS and Fed EX with no problem. Both were next day air.

[jonny-5]

oh my god you guys. drugs are illegal, and mailing them is twice as illegal. im telling my mom on you...:D

[darkstar]

SWIM has sent pills using USPS regular ground mail successfully several times. I hear a lot of people saying that overnight or priority is the way to go due to time constraints. I understand the logic, but isn't there stricter security for packages sent through air mail? I don't have any facts to back this up, but I've always thought ground mail was the way to go. Anybody know anything about this?

[Suboxstitute]

SWIM almost always uses US Postal Next Day or Priority Mail, and never has had a problem and has no reason to believe priority-type mail is subject to any greater scrutiny than regular mail. Maybe less - cause it's gotta go FAST.

The reason I like the good ol' post office has already been mentioned - both UPS and FedEX have been PROVEN to cooperate with local and federal authorities with opening packages (admittedly, from commercial pharmcies, or at least wanna-be pharmacies, and larger quantities) but the post office is pretty darn strict when it comes to looking into people's mail, coming or going, unless it's a large operation and they're acting on a tip or other substantive info - with a warrant.

Fed Ex and UPS have both done "controlled deliveries" with DEA agents or the like dressed up in little brown uniforms. No thanks. They've not governed by government rules re: privacy and the like AFAIK.

The USPS processed a SHITLOAD of mail a day, including tons of priority and next day mail and I just see them being the safest.

SWIM does not to it often, doesn't make a business out if, but has ZERO worries.

[lespaulpower]

Personally, I've had bad experience with this, although I've only tried it once. I ordered six boxes of 'panadeine plus' (codeine/APAP) From an OP in New Zeland and it was confiscated at my doorstep by city police. Fortunately I wasn't prosecuted. As far as mailing drugs domestically though, that might be a whole other issue, perhaps less risk. I'm new here by the way, It's a pleasure meeting you all.

[The_Tortured_Soul]

Personally, I've had bad experience with this, although I've only tried it once. I ordered six boxes of 'panadeine plus' (codeine/APAP) From an OP in New Zeland and it was confiscated at my doorstep by city police. Fortunately I wasn't prosecuted. As far as mailing drugs domestically though, that might be a whole other issue, perhaps less risk. I'm new here by the way, It's a pleasure meeting you all.

Wow, that sucks. Nice to meet you too. I think that that must have been a setup though.

[ZodiacKiller]

Hey TTS, I think the best thing for you to do (and for us) would be to go to the Post Office, step up to the counter, hold out your unwrapped drugs in both hands, and say "Hey Mr. Nice Postal Worker, I'd like to mail these drugs please. Can you help me?". I'm sure if they gave you a hard time, Daddy could help bail you out.

Or would that be LAME?


ZK

[bluesubaru]

Hey TTS, I think the best thing for you to do (and for us) would be to go to the Post Office, step up to the counter, hold out your unwrapped drugs in both hands, and say "Hey Mr. Nice Postal Worker, I'd like to mail these drugs please. Can you help me?". I'm sure if they gave you a hard time, Daddy could help bail you out.

Or would that be LAME?


ZK


+1, yo

[Manowar]

SWIM uses the post office with no problems. Just go with priority mail, its cheap and you can stick whatever u want in there with no questions asked usually. Also gets delivered fairly fast. If you start using the most expensive delivery options, you will be bringing attention to the parcel and might also require signatures. For the most part, the letter carriers are honest people who won't steal your mail. A family member of mine is a carrier and he tells me about their ethics. What everyone should do every year is tip your regular carrier during the holiday season. $10 in a card with a note that thanks them for the great service will ensure that they take care of your mail. That is a fact.

[scikid]

I've got a buddy who works for FedEx... on myspace he lists his occupation as "drug dealer who doesn't know it"... take that as you will.

Also, I always tip my postal service 20 on the holidays. Some of my shipments however I send to a different store.

[scikid]

Also, I've always thought if our pods are getting through then it would prob. even be less likely that a few pills or whatever would get picked up. I'm talking about this domestically though, I'd imagine customs adds a whole new element.

[Synack]

I've had 3 grams of oxycodone (total of 2 scripts) come through FedEx within the states, don't bother asking me if I bought it online because I didn't... and yes, I had an rx..

[austinslacker]

When I took Constitutional Law class in college, professor informed us if you want to keep a package from getting search without need for warrant, send first class, or if you go up to counter at P.O. mention a personal letter is in the package as well. This info was given a few years before the Patriot Act BS, so our civil rights are not what they used to be such may not be applicable. Would've been illegal search and seizure by fed. agency.

But, I know civil law rules do not apply to private companies others on thread have mentioned ie.; FedEX, DHL, etc.

[rockbottom]

get val's from a friend regular mail 20-40 pills at a time:)

[paroxetina]

It's illegal (well, duh) but your chances of getting caught are pretty low.

[clinton]

I used to get 50 mg of codiene from england , shipped it usps.. I know a friend who gets mj fedexed from Cali to missouri ...

[Mayo]

If your H source was half a day (12 hrs) away, would you go get it or have it sent?
Would you mix it up and do both?
Which do you think is more risky?

Does anyone know what kind of sh*t would come down on you if caught receiving a package containing say a quarter oz of H through the US post office?

Would the feds get involved or would the local authorities prosecute?
Does anyone know of someone getting busted receiving schedule one drugs?
Would you end up in a federal institution for that amount?

I'm just curious as to how you think it would go down, who would be involved, where you would end up.

[Synack]

If your H source was half a day (12 hrs) away, would you go get it or have it sent?
Would you mix it up and do both?
Which do you think is more risky?

Does anyone know what kind of sh*t would come down on you if caught receiving a package containing say a quarter oz of H through the US post office?

Would the feds get involved or would the local authorities prosecute?
Does anyone know of someone getting busted receiving schedule one drugs?
Would you end up in a federal institution for that amount?

I'm just curious as to how you think it would go down, who would be involved, where you would end up.

uh, with gas prices the way they are - I'd have it overnighted.

I'd say it depends on how you drive, what you're driving, where you're driving, how much you're moving, etc.


I don't think shit could happen, unless they can PROVE you knew what it was... and it depends on how much it was, and who ships it... if it's usps - feds will get it... otherwise, it's a toss based on how much it is, if they've been watching you, etc.

I think you could get the time thrown out - just deny deny deny, even if it means 'disgarding' of the junk

[xxanxx]

i use to work for Fedex and I would open packages daily with wrong or incomplete addresses to look for further information (invoice, packing slip, etc.) to get a hold of the shipper of recipient. Although we never pay attention to the contents in the package, but if we did happen to notice drugs were in the package I had full authority to let my manager know and he could legally contact the police, maybe leading to the arrest of someone. Of course any package I opened that had drugs in it I told nobody and taped the package up and sent it on its way if I found the correct recipients address, or sent the package back to the shipper.

Of course! :p

[Caitu]

Would it be possible to do this internationally?
For example, my friend knows a guy with lots of oxy hook-ups in the US, and he has some left over, so is sending them to my friend, from America to Australia. Is this possible? Do they check every international package?