How to potentiate opios to get a nod with benzos?

[OxyMan]

Man I'm glad my doc put me on k-pins, they actually help my anxiety, and potentiate the balls out of opiates when i'm trying to have some fun, but the idea of this topic is to help people (namely me) be safe about mixing downers without having to bother with knowing a specific persons specific opiate or benzo, specific dosage, and tolerence. What I'm going for is a more specific ratio (maybe not the proper term here).

Question: what is generally considered a good ratio of benzos and opiates to take when combining. Lets say (ex #s complete false, for ratio) It takes me 5 opiate to get a nod by itself. If I wanted to get pretty fucked up on benzos, it would take me 5 benzo. So if I want to combine the two, to get a nod easier, how much of each should I use?

Like with more benzos than opiates: 3 benzos and 2 opiates? for example

other way around: 3 opiates and 2 benzo?or more like 4 opiates and 1 benzo, 3 opiates to 1 benzo?

with equal amount: 3 benzos and 3 opiates? or 2 of each? or...?

I hope everyone understands how I'm trying to this here, I'm trying to be safe, but get my nod on for few opiates (or benzos, depends on what I'm low on). The reason I am doing it with unitless numbers and no specifics is just to make things easy ratios. I am especially trying to do it this way to highlight the synergistic effect of the two dowers.

Thanks all

[RxQueen]

the problem that i see with this theoretical idea, is that it WILL make a difference which opiates and benzos you're dealing with. you can't just make a ratio formula that will cover all combos. say vicodin was your opiate of choice, and valium was your benzo. if you take 3 7.5mg vikes (just as an example) and 2 10mg valiums to get good, you can't very well say that if you get some 10mg methadones instead, that you should take 3 of them with your valiums. the potentiation works much more synergistically with heavily sedating opiates like 'done or morphine, than with the speedier ones (vikes and oxy).

it's all individual, and needs to be fine-tuned to the individual taking it, as well as to the individual substances being taken.

it would be nice (and much easier and safer) though, if it were as easy as plugging in your doses to a ratio!

[jonny-5]

ya youre just gonna have to play around with it and see what works best for you.

[God_Albino]

unless swiy's into APAP containing pills, crushing both the benzos and opes and alternating between lines of each and building your way up is the safest bet, even if it's a little slow at first.

[EleusisII]

The problem is, that there is no safe way of doing this. Ya think Heath Ledger was trying to off himself? The more drugs you mix, the more unpredictable the result will be.

Definetly stay away from Temazepam (Restoril) and Xanax, as these are the most dangerous benzos.

Also, I'd go for a shorter acting one, so NOT klonopin or Valium. Stay safe!

[SHELLEY]

the potentiation works much more synergistically with heavily sedating opiates like 'done or morphine, than with the speedier ones (vikes and oxy).

it's all individual, and needs to be fine-tuned to the individual taking it, as well as to the individual substances being taken.

it would be nice (and much easier and safer) though, if it were as easy as plugging in your doses to a ratio!

so if i mix valium with methadone
it will get me fucked up? really???
cause i still have at least 30 10mg valiums left
out of my old scrip bottle

[TappyTibbons]

occasionally I get xanax in the form of a pure powder and I LOVE mixing that with opis. I mixed it with methadone on a daily basis for about 4 or 5 months, or howeverlong it took me to run through the 2 grams. I would estimate I was taking like 10mg or slightly more in the height of that mess, and I did a fairly rapid taper towards the end......... my god was that some shitty w/d. Point being is, IMO it is not AS dangerous as people make it out to be, but mos. def. make sure you can handle it before you take a monster load.

[irish]

I od'd on xanax and morphine. Not really high doses of either and almost died. I had liver and kidney failure that caused my heart to stop for 1.5 mins, so be really careful mixing.

[SpecialGuy69]

so if i mix valium with methadone
it will get me fucked up? really???
cause i still have at least 30 10mg valiums left
out of my old scrip bottleshel- before you do that, check out valium and pregnancy- i have heard people say its really bad. I dont know for sure, but please look it up first just in case.

[TappyTibbons]

I od'd on xanax and morphine. Not really high doses of either and almost died. I had liver and kidney failure that caused my heart to stop for 1.5 mins, so be really careful mixing.

wow irish, I am really sorry to hear that, but really glad you made it. May I ask we're there any other distinguishing circumstances that caused the od or was it just bad luck and the combo of the two drugs that did it? I'll def. remember this the next time I think of mixing, that is really scary.

[irish]

Just bad luck I think. I don't remember much other than waking up on the floor 2 days later with nerve damage in my legs from the shit I was lying on and feeling the worst nausea I have ever had. The damage to the muscles in my legs from lying on the floor for so long is what clogged my kidneys, but the liver failure was due to the drugs. Everything is ok now, but it took me over a month in hospital and 8 months on physio before I could really walk unassisted again. That combo can be really fun or really nasty.

[EleusisII]

The thing is: When your start combining those, shit get's unpredictable real fast.
You might think you're doing a safe dose, right until the paramedics pull up.

[Uncle Wiggly]

The thing is: When your start combining those, shit get's unpredictable real fast.
You might think you're doing a safe dose, right until the paramedics pull up.

Yeah, Benzos scare me when mixed with Opiates. I've been prescribed Klonopin for a long time and I'm scripted opiates for CIP but I don't take more (Benzos) than I'm prescribed. There too many variables involved. I never was a huge Benzo fan to begin with.