SAD GAD AGORAPHOBIA still cant get benzos

[kil092286]

I have had severe anxiety all of the above I have been diagnosed with and because I am honest with every physchologist/physchiatrist I have ever been too they never want to write me a script to benzos... The only time I got scripted to benzos was by my familys doctor. The most recent psych I went to I broke down crying (serious not faking) because my anxiety was ruining my life and had been since I was 5 years old or as far back as I can remember. Even after telling him I had tryed about 10-15 antidepressants he wanted me to try another one... I drove over 50 miles to see this guy and he wanted to write me another script for ads.... I was so pissed and felt so used because I was honest and the only reason I think he didn't give me what I needed was because I told him I was an opiate addict. I even told him I had been prescribed to benzos in the past and they worked good for me. So after that second break down in his office he writes me a script for luvox which I know nothing about... does it work or is it another piece of shit like ads? - Insert sympathy below lol... sorry for the rant. - kil

[Chemical_Boy]

For almost 100% of people, they fuck themselves if they talk about addiction to a doctor that they are trying to obtain controlled substance from.

Try a different do. A colder and slightly less emotional approach always works well for me.

Good luck!!!

[SpecialGuy69]

I have never had any trouble getting docs to script benzos.

I think your problem here is your going a little over the top. Also, with the crying and all, they probably see depression more than anxiety, and want to treat that first and foremost.

DONT:
-talk about opiate addiction
-tell the doc he's your only hope (they hear "your my only hope for scoring benzos")
-cry (if you can avoid it)
-make too big a deal of the depression

DO:
-only bring up benzos if asked
-shut up about opiate addiction

NEVER:
-tell your doc your addicted to drugs that can have fatal interactions with the drugs you are asking him/her to script

NEVER, EVER:
-admit to getting high off pharmaceuticals then ask for a script of abusable pharmaceuticals.

Get where I'm going with this?

[Papa Verine]

I absolutely agree with the previous responses. You should NOT have mentioned having an addiction to anything.

Act naive about drugs. Just describe your anxiety symptoms and do whatever you have to do to appear as anxious as possible. Figit in your seat, wipe your sweaty hands on your pants constantly, sound scared, move around A lot...

Maybe it just comes natural for me but I can appear to have serious anxiety in the doctors office.

Let him bring up drug treatments. DO NOT ask for anything and DO NOT mention ANY previous addictions to anything!!! The doctor will immediately assume that if you've been addicted to opiates you will become addicted to benzos and abuse them.

[God_Albino]

telling the truth gets you nowhere when it comes to pain or anxiety treatment if youve got any history of abuse.

find a new doc to start from scratch, take (or pretend to) take everything they prescribe, dont show any relief or recognition if they bring up benzos but dont play it too dumb.

it took me 8 months of severe pain and anxiety attacks before anyone caved in, anxietys one of the worst things to tough out but benzos are a hell of a lot easier to get scripted than opes

[Nostromos]

"Shit, dude.
I am a fucking drug addict.
If there is one thing that I am used to,
it is living in a state of guilt and self-loathing."

-Me

Nice to hear I'm not the only one. It's not because of drugs though, I just plain hate myself.

I told this one psych I was seeing that opiates-- morphine, I think I said it was-- were the "only things I really enjoy." This was true, but I only used every couple weeks, and never more than like 180mg at once. What's interesting I guess, is that I was put in a mental hospital for a few months where they started giving me benzos-- first Ativans, then Klonopins. This is interesting b/c the hospital's bigshot psychiatrist knew exactly what my feelings were about opiates.

After the ordeal was over, the same psych i was seeing before continued the prescription for Klonopins. Maybe K's aren't the kind of benzos you're talking about though, they're not very strong and I hear they fuck you up badly if you take too much at once. I refused another refill b/c they just didn't do much, though I kinda miss them now.

What are the names of the benzos you're talking about?

[kil092286]

Nice to hear I'm not the only one. It's not because of drugs though, I just plain hate myself.

I told this one psych I was seeing that opiates-- morphine, I think I said it was-- were the "only things I really enjoy." This was true, but I only used every couple weeks, and never more than like 180mg at once. What's interesting I guess, is that I was put in a mental hospital for a few months where they started giving me benzos-- first Ativans, then Klonopins. This is interesting b/c the hospital's bigshot psychiatrist knew exactly what my feelings were about opiates.

After the ordeal was over, the same psych i was seeing before continued the prescription for Klonopins. Maybe K's aren't the kind of benzos you're talking about though, they're not very strong and I hear they fuck you up badly if you take too much at once. I refused another refill b/c they just didn't do much, though I kinda miss them now.

What are the names of the benzos you're talking about?

Klonopin was actually the one I was really working for as I used to be scripted to it and it has worked best for my anxiety... I just had a baby boy and I want my life to be as functionable as possible (me taking a prescribed benzo is alot safer then me going and copping boy/opiates to take away my anxiety). I don't normally break down but it just all hit me at once and couldn't hold the tears like normal. I guess being honest gets you shitted on. I know if I didn't tell him I was a recovering opi addict he would have wrote it because it was almost like he was already writing it and then as soon as I told him he fell back in his chair and stopped writing.

[the0ne]

Are you over 18? Reason I ask is because if you aren't some doctors will tell your parents about the drug usage. Now that you have brought it up, it's on your medical record permanently now. Nothing you can do about it now. Maybe you can see another one and tell them you have quit and are having RLS and really bad anxiety.

I don't tell my doctor anything that can affect my medical treatment down the road. I might smell like cigarettes when I go in, but I don't say I'm a smoker because insurance both medical and life will be a lot more if my employer wasn't paying for it.

[ndoftaworld]

I don't tell my doctor anything that can affect my medical treatment down the road. I might smell like cigarettes when I go in, but I don't say I'm a smoker because insurance both medical and life will be a lot more if my employer wasn't paying for it.

Ditto, though I've never thought about saying no to smoking, ah shit I don't have ins. anyway, and with every state trying to ban smoking in public places it's my little way of saying fu without being labelled a criminal. *sigh*, such a sad, sad, life.

nd

[Saint]

I have never had any trouble getting docs to script benzos.

I think your problem here is your going a little over the top. Also, with the crying and all, they probably see depression more than anxiety, and want to treat that first and foremost.

DONT:
-talk about opiate addiction
-tell the doc he's your only hope (they hear "your my only hope for scoring benzos")
-cry (if you can avoid it)
-make too big a deal of the depression

DO:
-only bring up benzos if asked
-shut up about opiate addiction

NEVER:
-tell your doc your addicted to drugs that can have fatal interactions with the drugs you are asking him/her to script

NEVER, EVER:
-admit to getting high off pharmaceuticals then ask for a script of abusable pharmaceuticals.

Get where I'm going with this?

true.
Just wondering: since not all docs are morons, how many would be nosing around on the net - this forum for instance - or have enough experience in real life - to laugh their ass off when they see someone play tricks like this.
I know there are some really unknowledgeable docs out there, but I bet a lot of them are smarter than that and many will know it when you play holier than thou.. you gotta be a good actor I guess..

[OxyQueen]

I really think you're appearing more DEPRESSED to the docs than having anxiety

I have NO problem getting scripted benzos...i get xanax 1mg 3X a day

When i went in to my GP i told him i was getting panic attacks, my heart racing, hard time breathing, sweating etc...he immediately wrote a script for anti-depressant and benzo...usually they go hand in hand

If you've ever had it on medical records that you're an addict you can forget about them scripting you benzos, they get scared off that you'll either relapse on you DOC or create a new addiction.

Like AO said, the crying, even though you weren't faking, is a little over the top and they are more concerned with depression.....

I feel for you, my mother has agoraphobia and it wasn't pretty what i saw her go thru when i was young.
She would have panic attacks just to go out to the dam mailbox....
I believe she is on tranxene, and some old-school MAIO inhibitor, Parnate, i believe it is. She also has xanax on hand usually too, for flying and stuff like that. Who knows what the hell she really takes.....those are just what i KNOW OF.
But agoraphobia IS very dibilatating, i am sorry you are going thru this with shitty doctors. You gotta keep looking, you'll find a compassionate one...have faith, they're out there!

[LorTabitha]

find a new doc to start from scratch, take (or pretend to) take everything they prescribe

If they give you a script for something that truly doesn't work, take them for maybe a week, then bring the rest of the bottle along with you on your next visit. You look like less of a drug seeker that way. I always take mine in, saying "Maybe you could give these to someone without insurance." I know they can't, but it's always gotten me better meds. (meds that are truly more suited to my condition because they usually start out very conservatively.)

[SHELLEY]

i got scripted valium for a few years
i told the doc that at least 4x a week
i'd fall asleep at night for only an hour or 2
then i'd wake up drenched in sweat, shaking, and unable to breathe
and that the same thing would also happen
randomly throughout the day "and i don't know why!"
the doc told me i was having panic attacks
and gave me 60count 10mg valium
with 5 refills (although every time i tried to refill
the pharmacist gave me a squinchy look
and called the doc anyways) :)

thing is, i know the right name for "panic attack"
what i said was all lies
i was so badly hooked on crack and iv coke
and whenever i ran out of the shit
i liked to take 3 or 4 valium (or 1 or 2 xanax)
then smoke a big fat crippie blunt
and since i smoked crack and/or shot coke on the daily
i needed my benzos coming in steady

try saying that- don't call em panic attacks or anxiety
just say you wake up in the middle of the night often
worked for me with 2 different docs
(would have stuck with the same one but i moved)

[oxymoronluvr]

addiction is a stigma that alot of doctors can't get by. once you mention addiction to most doctors, they will mentally shut u down and really not even listen to what you have to say. and of course say no to the scripts. thats what got you. honesty sometimes isn't the best policy esp when your trying to get scripts. also dont go for the hole in 1 with the first appt. no doc in his right mind is going to write you benzos on the first visit unless you have records and have moved form out of state or other far place or something like that. go with his little bullshit scheme. he is going to try every non drug route. and dont do anything thats going to toss up a flag.

[ndoftaworld]

Being able to puke on cue works great too. Just fidget around, get really sweaty and start to explain what's going on and... oops, sorry! "I'll buy you new shoes if you give me 2mg xanax..."

HEHE,

Nd