Heroin Withdrawals..

[StealSmoke]

Heroin withdrawals, I think the stigma around heroin withdrawals and the mentality of the user due to this stigma is half of the pain. like 3 days ago, I had to stop fucki nwith this shit, and I thought it was gonan be a bitch, but still I figured it shouldnt be TOO hard, so after the next day, I was OK, but pretty depressed, and that was it, no physical withdrawals or feelings whatsoever, note I had only used for about 2/12 or 3 weeks prior to quitting, and used almost daily, but only 2 bags a day, sometimes one, and maybe one or twice three, and it was pretty good dope, so anyway, first day, nothing, first night, I felt it a little, I took 4 tylenol pm's and tried to go to sleep, 30 minuteds later in bed I found myself kind of twitching out of frustration or something, legs, arms, hands felt uncomfortable, I had to crack my knuckles to get a little relief cuz that shit was botherin me, anyway, second day, I was still ok, woke up cool, a little depressed, spent the whole day just sitting around watchin tv, eating quite a bit, and went out iwth my buddy for a few hours just drove around and did more of nothing, that night, I took 4 more TPM's, and I went to sleep great, the next day, I felt ok waking up, little to no epression, the rest of teh day I felt pretty great, I felt alive, not too energetic but satisfied with life and somewhat optimistic and happy. now mind you vicodin withdrawals were atleasst 3 times worse t ome, but that may be because I was on those for about 4 years before quitting, almost daily. and this shit only a few weeks.

but anyway, I think people make more out of these withdrawals then there is, sure, after a year of daily use of 3-4 bags, it probably gets real ugly, but not a month or a few months I dont think.

anyway, just figured I'd give my two cents o nthis issue so people know and arent scared to quit after only a few weeks of using, it honestly isnt htat hard.

[JonnyMohawk]

I don't agree that people make out withdrawals to be worse then they are, although yours where fairly mild not everyone has it as easy as you... I've experienced some hellish withdrawals after only a month. I think everybody is obviously different when it comes to withdrawing but there is no doubt some excruciating pain involved for the most part.

[StealSmoke]

yeah you might be right. I don't know, how much were you using for that month? and keep it real! lol, j/k, but for real this kind of knowledge could come in handy for a lot of people.

[jdub]

Try kicking w/ a real habit. Given your intake and duration I am not surprised it wasn't bad.

One time when I was kicking done and H in rehab, I didn't eat for a week and literally did not sleep for 19 days. I lost consciousness for an hour or two but didn't sleep until they gave me a bunch of seroquel. It was the longest most extended hell. I was literally losing my mind. But I was kicking done and h so it was ALL BAD.

[StealSmoke]

yeah that was my main point, a few week/one or two month habit of one or two bags a day or every third day, the W/D wouldnt be too bad for, now even that same amount of time, but 4-5 bagsa day? I'm sure it would be hell.

[jonny-5]

ya try kicking a gram + a day habit and tell me its not bad.

[StealSmoke]

wtf? lol, buddy I just got done explainin that, try stay below .2 a day and then tell me it is bad.

see how that works?

[Crow]

If only you were right my friend, if only you were right......


I have been using daily (3 or 4 bags?? Pfff, try a 50 bag minimum, and thats on a bad day!) for almost a decade. Eight and a half years to be exact. I am not joking or bragging about my habit, just stating a fact, take it or leave it, its face value. If I tried to kick cold turkey, or hell, even with some opiates aiding my detox, I would be in more pain than most humans ever dream about experiencing.

I hope, for your sake, that you never have to go through a real full-blown heroin withdrawal. If you do, mark my words you will remember this thread, and your naivety, and that knowledge alone might make you sicker. Good luck bud. ;)

[drkstarcrashes]

anyway, just figured I'd give my two cents o nthis issue so people know and arent scared to quit after only a few weeks of using, it honestly isnt htat hard.

I can see how your w/d might not have been bad...but 1-2bags a day for 3 weeks isn't a habit/run most of the people on this forum experience. I've seen people kick habits with less pain/issues than others...but if you're doing 10+ bags a day - it's not easy. Every time gets a little harder... On the surface your post seems to make heroin use out to be not that big of a deal, when it is (or will be for most at some point)

[motts]

try kicking a 10-15 bag a day habit for 6-12 months man.

that is totally different compared to 3-7 day chip man.

if you want to know how it feels, start tomorrow :)

[pharmboy]

It's bad, and how bad is directly proportional to how long and

how much you did. With a two week habit you realy cant say

what up with withdrawls. It ain't like the flu I'll tell ya that.

[allover]

I have been through hell and back going through heroin withdrawals....and I almost never even shot up. Let your habit get large enough and for a long enough period of time and YOU WILL GO THROUGH HELL. It's such an awful sickness that I wouldn't even wish it on my very worst enemy.

[candyshop]

I. It's such an awful sickness that I wouldn't even wish it on my very worst enemy.


i would

[allyouneedislove]

i would

this girl is funny.

[allover]

Of course! All the Pacific Northwesterners show up once I move away for 6 months!

[Raz]

Its all about, how much and for how long you've been usin....

I'm one of those that cluck fast and hard, 2wks of hell and i start to get better.But thats just on smack.The methadone is a different ball game/level of hell...

I know of friends who didnt sleep for 6wks - 2 mths...But they were long time users/abusers...

The way i think of it is like a clock at noon=normal...And how ever far ya go towards midnight is how far ya got to suffer to get back to noon...

Please no one giv me shit about clockwise,anticlockwise:p:D

[erica]

Yeah I don't think it really has much to do with what you think...I mean I guess all that "power of the mind" stuff is possible, but I'm a pragmatic person - it's directly correlated to what you're using, how much you're using, and how frequently you're using.

To be honest, I never have been through withdrawals after 2 or 3 weeks, but then again, I started oxy 24/7 and didn't take a break for 3 months - I didn't think I was going to get physically dependent (ah, if only I knew then what I know now)....And now that I've been on it for almost 2 years - literally 24/7 for the most part, going months without ever being sober - I can say, withdrawals are a bitch. It's something I (and the rest of us) avoid like the plague. I'd rather go through a LOT of things than go through withdrawals...And I don't want to know what they are like for some of you with 10 year habits.

Also, keep in mind that everyone's body reacts differently to opiates. Just like how some people don't get really bad hangovers from alcohol, withdrawals from opiates is the same idea.

[AlteK]

I get withdrawals (more than mild, but not full-blown terrible) after 3 days of using sniffing. It's usually like 4-6 bags a day. Withdrawals from IVing are harsh, but I never thought in my wildest dreams that sniffing heroin a few times a day would produce such a monstrous sickness. I was a regular user of oxy daily for months, and never ever got withdrawals (except for the occasional morning sickness). Once I started using heroin is when I found out what withdrawals were and how bad they can be. The first time I ever got sick was when I decided to take a break for a day. I woke up the next morning like a freight truck hit me. I could not move out of bed, my muscles were aching, my legs were out of control, sneezing, naseua and that pungent smell and taste you get in your sinuses. I immediately used a bag and went instantly better 100%. I then decided to myself I don't want to go through withdrawals ever again. Bah ha ha. Man was I stupid.

[Raz]

[quote- I can say, withdrawals are a bitch. It's something I (and the rest of us) avoid like the plague. I'd rather go through a LOT of things than go through withdrawals...And I don't want to know what they are like for some of you with 10 year habits.




Welcome to my world.................

[Saint]

Try kicking w/ a real habit. Given your intake and duration I am not surprised it wasn't bad.

One time when I was kicking done and H in rehab, I didn't eat for a week and literally did not sleep for 19 days. I lost consciousness for an hour or two but didn't sleep until they gave me a bunch of seroquel. It was the longest most extended hell. I was literally losing my mind. But I was kicking done and h so it was ALL BAD.

Agree.. I quit using H (at least 1 gram daily IV) and 80 to 100 mgs of methadone after 16 years of daily use. I must say it wasn't exactly fun...
After 6 months in hell (during that time my father suddenly died too which didn't make things easier) I decided to go back on methadone. I just didn't get any fucking better. I'm totally off the H now for about 8 years and am recently trying to quit methadone again.
Op: It's all in the tolerance, lenght of maintenance, age, health etc. etc.

I'd like to hear your exeriences with WD-s after 20 years of continuous dope-use.. my bet is that you'll be screaming for your mother or your DOC..
2 to 3 weeks of dope-use is nothing: some get WD-s, others don't but it's really NOT a full habit yet.
Nevertheless I'm happy that you got through it so well.
Try to keep it that way though..

[OxyContinuously]

it all has to do with how much you use and for how long...a couple loosebags isn't that much, but this stuff is ALL relative anyways

[DCBA]

it all has to do with how much you use and for how long...a couple loosebags isn't that much, but this stuff is ALL relative anyways

And has to do with method of use also. IVing gives a more intense WD effect than for example, smoking. I can tell you that from personal experience, and is not based on a single experience but many of them.. and other closer junkies experiences talk about the same..