Someone Please Help

[diditagain]

I had been clean (no drugs whatsoever) for 8 months, then i started using again just over a month ago. It wasnt bad for the first week and a half or so but for the last month i have been using daily, getting kinda dope sick and too afraid to go thru withdrawl again so continued. I have only been doing 80mg of oxy or 2 bags of H a day for a month, I have made the decision to stop before i lose everything again and go down the path to hell. Does anyone know how bad my W/D will be after a month of daily usage? Will i be able to work ? Do you think i will be able to work and fight it and stay in this positive mindset if I use the tools ive been given by NA? please someone tell me if in there EXPERIENCE i will be able to do this without taking time off work and getting really sick. Im scared, but i cant do this to myself again! PLEASE HELP ME:( i really do have a positive attitude about this and want it more than anything. I love NA and dont want to be that person again.

[devilsdrug]

sorrry i would say no work for three days unless you pull it off on a weekend , you could try the loperamide route so you dont shit on your self and go for it myself i would probably want to tear somebodies head off

[shaunclo]

After about a month of daily use, I doubt you will be able to work (like Devil said) for atleast 3 days. Use some vacation time or pretend to be really ill. Even go to your doctor and complain of flu-symptoms;) and tell him you cant stop throwing up, tell him your work needs a note from a doctor if you are going to be sick for more than 2 days straight. He should be able to write you one. Get some Kratom and some benzos and that should help you out for the worst part.

How are you taking your drugs, IV, smoking or swallowing. If your only smoking and swallowing than you should be right as rain in 3-4 days easily. Good luck and let us know

[NARKOS]

I had been clean (no drugs whatsoever) for 8 months, then i started using again just over a month ago. It wasnt bad for the first week and a half or so but for the last month i have been using daily, getting kinda dope sick and too afraid to go thru withdrawl again so continued. I have only been doing 80mg of oxy or 2 bags of H a day for a month, I have made the decision to stop before i lose everything again and go down the path to hell. Does anyone know how bad my W/D will be after a month of daily usage? Will i be able to work ? Do you think i will be able to work and fight it and stay in this positive mindset if I use the tools ive been given by NA? please someone tell me if in there EXPERIENCE i will be able to do this without taking time off work and getting really sick. Im scared, but i cant do this to myself again! PLEASE HELP ME:( i really do have a positive attitude about this and want it more than anything. I love NA and dont want to be that person again.
like shaunclo has stated if i might add to his post is to use klonopin as a good withdrawl benzodiazepine, that will ward off the muscle spasms and help calm down the nervous system. as when you are going through withdrawl the nervous system is in a hyper-exited state, the opposite effects of the drug you are trying to withdraw from. Klonopin is a long-acting benzo that will make it possible for you to survive sober, but then u have the problem of slowly tapering off the klonopin. i have taken klonopin for 8 yrs for panic attacks and it works like a god-send. if you really want to be clean all you need is faith and desire and you will be sober.
God-bless

[GMorris]

Well, you will likely be pretty sick as has been noted, but you could also try to wean slowly. It's one of the hardest things to do, almost as hard as a cold turkey but I prefer it if possible. At least you can still work. You'll be a little sick for a longer time, but it will be much easier to hide and won't take more than a couple of weeks if you do it right (should say, if you CAN do it right!). When the weekend or days off come around, decrease your dose by a LOT more than during the week, then level out again on going back to work. I've had to do it both ways several times and I'd much rather feel just a little bad and make some money than to be home 3 or 4 days puking, shitting, shivering, sweating, low back pain, etc., well you get the idea!

[devilsdrug]

gmorris has got the other alternative any traqs , muscle relaxers , sleepers will help just dont over do oh yea any of you computer geek punks wanna be dope fiends who dissed my points and power latlely go fuk yourself , the truth hurts , ive forgot more about dope than youll ever know

[diditagain]

wow thank you for all the responses. I would like to ask what is the loperamide route ? i think im going to taper so i can gradually do this and be secretive and still work because i do hair and if i dont work i dont eat, and i pay rent weekly, so thats not an option. Im getting good ideas here and i appreciate all of them. alot ! My life is worth so much more to me now. Its awesome. i dont want to lose it. To anyone trying to get clean, and who has an open mind, give NA a try. Once i opened my mind it changed my life! Keep the good stuff coming people!




sorrry i would say no work for three days unless you pull it off on a weekend , you could try the loperamide route so you dont shit on your self and go for it myself i would probably want to tear somebodies head off

[diditagain]

By the way I am an IV user , i dont remember who asked.

[diditagain]

hey one more question.... ive been reserching Kratem. It seems like the miracle answer to all this. BUT i have called every herbalist, health food store and head shop in 2 counties and cant find it! Does it go by another name, or do i only have the option of buying this stuff on the internet? :rolleyes:

[lukilu]

Type in Kratom in search and it will pop up in front of you ! I think Kratom Man works . Lukilu

[devilsdrug]

do a search this site for loperamide the active incredient in imodium

[GMorris]

I'm actually in taper mode myself right now. We have limited Morphine until next Friday and I'd gotten my tolerance way high with the "extras" from the 28 day month. The first day I went down by about 30%, then maintained that the next day. Then I went down another 25% or so, and tomorrow I'm going to try to drop by another 30-40% and see how that goes. I've found that the first drop is usually the worst, so I'll maintain on that for a couple of days until I start to feel "normal" again. Then on each subsequent drop the w/d gets a little less intense and after a week or so I'll be down to about a quarter of what my original dose was. I still get the soft shit and some appetite loss, as well as some leg pain and general anxiety but it's a whole hell of a lot more bearable than a straight cold turkey is! Sleeping is a bit of a problem, but that gets better too once you adjust to the lower dosages. The biggest problem is my mind trying to trick me like "Ahh, we can do X amount and make up for it later", which I have to be careful not to give in to. The last time I did that I ended up in BAD w/d on the script day (another post here), and I had lost count too so it sucked BIG time. If you have that problem, one way is to give it to someone else with strict instructions to give you only so much and not give in no matter how much you beg and cry, but of course if you have the means you can always score somewhere and bypass them so it all depends on how badly you want to do it...

[SomniGod]

SWIM's forced into kick starting this weekend...SWIM's been maintaing this week...some things fell through...now it's that time again! Not lookin forward to it. As for the Loperamide, eat lots. Loperamide is an incredibly potent opiate which will only help with withdrawls as it does not cross the blood-brain-barrier to be converted and received. SWIM would say a box or 2 a day helps me...helps with the 'runny-tummy' or 'the shits' as well.

Best of luck diditagain....let us know what works best for you while you kick.... The more info the better.

SWIM's going the dead stop route...well, actually, it will be stem tea tomorrow and Sun. Then, valiums and alprazolams to get me through the first 4-5 days...then it's weed and alcohol till it's over. Usually a 7-10 day process for me whenever I go for 2 months ot more.

Atleast weathers' been good down here in FL and SWIM can make mixed drinks, go to the pool...this helps a LOT... dunno why, and getting up the nerve to get up and go to the pool is the hard part. SWIM is so glad once he is in the pool! Maybe that will help someone else too...


~S~

[devilsdrug]

water is good one time on a pill detox i swam lots of laps and then more laps it really helped to be exhausted also, another time in a hot stuffy county jail i had unlimited access to the shower those first couple days i must have took 20 long showers just let it beat on those spasin muscles

[diditagain]

Welll folks, the process has begun, I cut my dose in half and plan to do so for a few days and then half it again for a few more, then half that, then nothing. So far, not so bad. A little sore and sweaty, but working and functioning and so forth. I have also been continuing to go to meetings. Actually, my quest inspired a friend of mine who has been on solid for about 10 years to taper off for good too. We plan on being raging potheads for the rest of our days ..lol...he cut his dose some today, he cant go as drasticly as i am, but he wants to quit, seeing as we are the only 2 left ALIVE of our crew of 7 of us who started togther about 10 years ago. This has been positive and inspiring and if i keep that attitude i think all will be well. thank you so much for everything you all have said and all the info i have gotten, i think im going to order some kratom this weekend. lifeis good !

[devilsdrug]

i know all about the crew left imm the only one left prison saved me aa and na did me a lot of good many years ago learned tools to use and how your brain will fool trick or whatever you i myself learned not to set to high of goals at first so as not to set yourself up for failure anyway loperamide does jelp

[hovadagod]

loperamide/imodium is perfect for WD's. Shit rocks. Allows your mind to heal before your body so you can kind of do it one at a time. Mind first then body by tapering off the imodium. Potent stugg that loperamide. I like lomotil better but it's way harder to get. RX and doctors think that imodium works just as well...maybe their right but diphenoxylate crosses the barrier.

[GMorris]

Lomotil... man that brings back some memories. I remember finding a good size bottle of it years ago. Didn't get much of a buzz but it did remind me of a low grade opioid like propoxyphene. It does, however, stop the shit cold and without doubt (not to mention GREAT for withdrawal if you can get it). I don't think I shat for like 3 or 4 days after that binge!

[earthenone]

Shat is such a funny word, you hardly ever hear it, it reminds me of proper english or something, not to be childish or anything i just think it is a particularly funny word, i used to swipe lomotil from my grandma in hish school, very low grade but enough of em worked way back then.

[GMorris]

I don't know if "shat" is really proper or anything, it just sounds cool to me. Like "sit" and "sat". Anyway, I like it better than "shitted". God, I never thought I'd be engaged in a discussion about the proper usage of the word "shit". I can hardly type right now as I'm about to cry from laughing so damned hard!

Edit:

I just couldn't help myself:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=shit

Turns out "shat" IS right after all!