Ho hum

[ashx0xlee]

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I'm keeping this short because i kind mixed a bunch of shit i shouldn't earlier in the night in an attempt to make everything go away... [bad idea]

About two months ago my father came across close to 50 torn up baggies along with three needles and a few snippy comments from the boyfriend. I spent the next five days detoxing cold turkey after having a habit of shooting well over five times a day. Three days ago the man came across some klonopins and a cotton ball and once again i am under house arrest with nothing. You would think i would learn my lesson but oh ho ho, we all know how that goes. I just need some advice on how to pass the time and handle the shakes and ya know maybe get adopted by one of you fine folks for a few days :D

[pharmboy]

Great a seven year old junkie. Ahh play with your dollies, finger paint, read Curious George, Ho hum.:rolleyes:

[SpecialGuy69]

sucks. pharmboy is just playin.

i dont know what advice to give you except maybe get on methadone???

sorry i cant be more helpful.

[RxQueen]

hide your stash better next time, and don't keep old empty bags. and please tell me that you weren't trying to shoot kpins... they're not even water soluble and won't go into solution for injection. otherwise, sorry to hear that you gotta do a forced detox. maybe it's time to get your own place?

[nova67]

Hey there,

you could always pretend to go on some kind of pshycotic break and freak the fuck out...they take you to hospital to get fixed and be able to at least get into medical detox so you are not so miserable. My 16yr old cousin has an H habit already...and his mama bolts the doors and windows...and cuts all lines of communication...so feel lucky you can go online hun.

[Inspektahdek]

nice post, welcome to OPIOPHILE, I'll adopt ya ;) j/k


that is if you like semi-crazy Germans and have a passport :D

[ashx0xlee]

The only reason i had the bags was to keep a collection of the stamps,[stupid i know] that and they weren't all mine. There are no safe spots in my house. My father will tear down the ceiling if he thinks i got something up there. My parents made me quit my job and school the first time around because i guess keeping me in their sights 24/7 was going to fix me. Ha. fools. It just sucks to be stuck inside for a second time over three klonopins, and no i wouldn't try and shoot a pill, i'll stick with some sweet jenny. As far as methadone or anything of the sort he got all that in the raid and ended up taking them himself along with two subs and now he's paying for it so i suppose i get some enjoyment out of it. How do i make the whole joint issue go away along with the hot flashes? And someone from jersey come and rescue me already..i'll pay you in trinkets and surprises and all sorts of other magical things us "little kids" carry around in our pockets. : ]



nice post, welcome to OPIOPHILE, I'll adopt ya ;) j/k


that is if you like semi-crazy Germans and have a passport :D

I'm this close to finding some legal loop hole into making you have to stand by your word.

[RxQueen]

seriously, why don't you move out of your parents' house? problem solved.

[ashx0xlee]

I currently don't have that many options as to where i could go. Anyone that would take me in is someone who would expect a little something in return [most of my friends are skeezy males] or just unbearable. Also, my parents are the super of a building, not many people want to rent to some 20 year old kid with pink hair who is only pulling in 300 a week at most. Jersey sucks as far as rent, a one bedroom goes for close to a grand unless i want to go live in the reverse, but being five foot nothing and white as a ghost won't do me much good so i'm still in a bit of a pickle. I've thought about just up and jumping states but i don't really see that ending in a positive manner. SOOOOOOOO... Anyone looking for a new roomie? I can cook and clean and do all those other sorts of things that one would expect a female to do, i've just got the mouth of a truck driver and the attitude of a boy, but i'm bearable.. I promise : ]

[HowLongIsTooLong]

Hey,

Do you play an instrument?

Anyway, I might have an idea or three for you, I have been living in NYC on the cheap for my whole life. I think it is time for you to get out of Jersey and into the wide wide world... namely New York City. ;)

Email me if you like.

D

[Papa Verine]

Ash, it sounds like you got a crazy father. I wish I could help but I'm currently living with family and they got pissed off the last time I brought home a pink haired girl with the mouth of a truck driver, so I know better then to try that again.

Somebody here might be able to help you. Good luck... I hope you can get away from your psycho dad.

[ein0606]

if u wanna come to hilton head where its always warm, me and my rommate got an extra bed.

[ashx0xlee]

I can play them, just not well, and if perhaps i had a way to get in touch with you i would, but if you have aim or want to email me, to share these ideas, i'll sit around waiting for your response. e-mail = XXXX and aim = octopussxfo0t

Perhaps you could show me around this giant city and buy me ice cream like a gentlemen : ]

Hey,

Do you play an instrument?

Anyway, I might have an idea or three for you, I have been living in NYC on the cheap for my whole life. I think it is time for you to get out of Jersey and into the wide wide world... namely New York City. ;)

Email me if you like.

D

[Inspektahdek]

I'm this close to finding some legal loop hole into making you have to stand by your word.


legal loophole what does that mean? Fake passport? lol anyways we Europeans have this thing called guesthousing where people you can crash at their place for like 5 EURO a night and I know people all over Europe who would let me stay at their house as long as I wanted. That's just our culture, not even a sexual thing. I wouldn't mind one bit to let a fellow opiophile crash as long as they wanted as long as they didn't steal my junk or my electronics. I share though :)

Anyways, sorry to hear bout your bump, getting any better (related to other topique)

prost' ashlee,


DEK~

[ashx0xlee]

Running away to europe is a little romantic don't ya think?:p But, might just be the change i need. I have a visa for Norway..think i could make my way over from there and you could hide me out?

[Inspektahdek]

Running away to europe is a little romantic don't ya think?:p But, might just be the change i need. I have a visa for Norway..think i could make my way over from there and you could hide me out?

visa for norway? whats the story behind that? im not asking for romance lol anythings possible I just like to help people out, talk to the dude about NYC first though

[ashx0xlee]

a friends father is a diplomat, i'm suppose to go out there this summer and relax. But Germany would be nice. Cleaner than NY. But at this point i am up for anything, and even more so since i'm dope sick, but don't worry i wouldn't molest you or anything if i did come your way. I know the difference between good touch and bad touch, i worked at a daycare.

[Inspektahdek]

I'm a guy, I like everything sexual, my regards were if it ever happened to not to be worried about me. Some guys are weird sick fucks you should know that

[upstate_007]

Some guys are weird sick fucks you should know that

You say that like it's a bad thing. :D

[jdub]

You say that like it's a bad thing. :D

^^^^^^HA!

[ashx0xlee]

lol i'm not gonna run off with some 50 year old guy who is going to promise me my every desire so long as i let him get knee deep in my beef pockets every now and then. Sorry i'm just not that type of gal. I'm just looking for some help from some people who have somewhat of an idea of what i am going through/won't think of me as some scum who hides behind their addiction.

[upstate_007]

We're just messin with ya. If anything, we are a group of people that look out for each other when nobody else will. We got your back.

[ashx0xlee]

but could we pretend that you were the other kinda people just for one night?:D

[bluesubaru]

...subscribed...


i wonder how this will turn out

[upstate_007]

...subscribed...


i wonder how this will turn out

I know what I would put my money on.

[bluesubaru]

I know what I would put my money on.


yea, i kinda know from the situation what will happen, but i'm gonna be 'proper' haha

[ashx0xlee]

Oh all of you hush and keep your heads clear. sheesh:faga1:

[nova67]

Hey there...get out, get a bus ticket "pinch the money if you have to" get the fuck outta jersey...or go to your nearest social and human services office and get an application for public assistance housing and food stamps...i ran off from home when I turned 18 this way...and It wasn't really that bad...you dont wind up in the ghetto, you can pick which apartment you want and such...and it will get ya through until you get a job or a roomie to live with...I mean they wont let ya live in park avenue...but at least you can say I wont live in X place either. but as the old saying goes "beggers can't be choosers" At least i was able to get away from my nazi step dad..and make a start. And you aint no kid...20 is an adult in the laws eyes...and you know you can call they cops...or if you are not allowed the phone get online and try to contact them...tell them that you are under false imprisonment...my step dad was thrown in the cage for 48hrs...long enough for me to make my break...so if I were you I'd get crackin. I know all to well what it is like to live with an evil, sadistic, bastard of a father figure in my life. get out now or he will start bolting doors and cutting phone lines....

[SpecialGuy69]

there has to be some guy who likes you enough to let you crash on his couch but still respects you enough to not rape you. I wish I had better advice than "play some guy who thinks your cute" but thats all i got for you right now. Sorry.

[ashx0xlee]

Already has. Every window in our house is bolted and nailed in the most obnoxious way possible, there is tape in case i try and more shit around, i'm only getting internet because i live in an apt building and i am leeching off the guy next to me. Today is the first day in five days i have been left in a room by myself. I've thought about doing that, the whole cops bit, but i wouldn't want to put my mother through all that shit along with the rest of my family. As far as money goes i have about five dollars to my name, but i'm fortunate enough to know how to sew along with a few other artsy things that those emo gals will pay 30 bucks for a heart and some words sewn on to a shirt that cost me two bucks. I figure if i can sell enough stuff and not blow the money on dope i will be able to secure a place somewhere, even if it means going to social services for help. It just isn't humane anymore.

Hey there...get out, get a bus ticket "pinch the money if you have to" get the fuck outta jersey...or go to your nearest social and human services office and get an application for public assistance housing and food stamps...i ran off from home when I turned 18 this way...and It wasn't really that bad...you dont wind up in the ghetto, you can pick which apartment you want and such...and it will get ya through until you get a job or a roomie to live with...I mean they wont let ya live in park avenue...but at least you can say I wont live in X place either. but as the old saying goes "beggers can't be choosers" At least i was able to get away from my nazi step dad..and make a start. And you aint no kid...20 is an adult in the laws eyes...and you know you can call they cops...or if you are not allowed the phone get online and try to contact them...tell them that you are under false imprisonment...my step dad was thrown in the cage for 48hrs...long enough for me to make my break...so if I were you I'd get crackin. I know all to well what it is like to live with an evil, sadistic, bastard of a father figure in my life. get out now or he will start bolting doors and cutting phone lines....

[ashx0xlee]

I think its going to come down to that no matter what, at least i'm not that harsh on the eyes, i would just prefer to avoid the whole raping bit. But, ya never know perhaps there just are some genuine people out there..i doubt it if they are anywhere near my age and have a dick, but one can hope.

there has to be some guy who likes you enough to let you crash on his couch but still respects you enough to not rape you. I wish I had better advice than "play some guy who thinks your cute" but thats all i got for you right now. Sorry.

[TOOL]

Stay tuned folks up next.......... TO CATCH A PREDATOR:D

[ashx0xlee]

Arg. Why must you males be such a let down.

[HowLongIsTooLong]

Hey, don't get too discouraged. And don't get into anything that seems even remotely sketched out... at least you are technically safe where you are...

I actually do have some constructive ideas for you... as I said, I have been doin' it the hard way for years. Also, I am not a predator. There is at least one person 'round here that can vouch for me.

Email me! And we can talk. I tried to email you, I dunno if you got it. Just click on my Opi handle and choose send an email... that should work.

Don't do anything rash, hon... I know it seems desperate, but I get the feeling that it could be a hell of a lot more desperate if you know what I mean. Keep it kool & the gang.

Peace

D

[bluesubaru]

so just how common is heroin among scenester kids ?

[ashx0xlee]

scenester? what the fuck makes you say that? WHat would a bluesbaru classify himself as?


so just how common is heroin among scenester kids ?

[nova67]

Stay tuned folks up next.......... TO CATCH A PREDATOR:D

yeah no kidding huh?....Ya know i think your family and mom will feel relieved if you call the pig patrol...you dont have any dope so thats not an issue, and your dad is being the nazi prick I told you about...while at the station you can say you fear for your mom and family and that will help them too...*i had the same notion in my head, *if I call the cops im gonna fuck over my moms and sister* but you have to make a break some how* if you do call the cops make sure you tell them you can't answer the door...he is holding you prisoner...it is against the law and he WILL go down..and a side note..my mom thanked me and welcomed me back with open arms after I did that...she filed for divorce not long after it all went down. I know its a bitch to swallow your pride and just get the food stamps and housing and shit...but I almost starved because of pride...it is a whole lot safer than going to some dudes house that has got a itch for ya. plus it feels really good, to see the nazi prick fall off his high moral horse as it were.

[TOOL]

Arg. Why must you males be such a let down.


Sorry couldn't pass it up .... I feel for you... I really do.... You are young girl... take this as a warning .... take what you learned from this , and run like hell... get as far away from this life as you can..... or in another 10 years.... you will be posting a lot sadder story than this... and thats if your lucky.

[upstate_007]

Arg. Why must you males be such a let down.

Because I am at work, sick, hungry, sleepy and gassy. Being a prick seems to fit the mood today.

All in all, seriously, be careful. Don't do anything risky, trust your gut, that kind of thing. There are a lot of bad guys out there, but there are a lot of good people too. Just don't find out the hard way.

And as far as my man D........... I'd trust him a lot farther than I can throw him. He is a solid guy. At the very least he could give you some ideas and options that you might not have thought of.

[SpecialGuy69]

I think its going to come down to that no matter what, at least i'm not that harsh on the eyes, i would just prefer to avoid the whole raping bit. But, ya never know perhaps there just are some genuine people out there..i doubt it if they are anywhere near my age and have a dick, but one can hope.I'm 28. When I was 20, I had my own place, and I wasn't raping every girl who crashed on my couch.


Just the cute pink-haired ones...


J/K. There are plenty of cool guys out there who aren't rapists. And a lot of them would be happy to have you crashing on their couch.

[HowLongIsTooLong]

Because I am at work, sick, hungry, sleepy and gassy. Being a prick seems to fit the mood today.

All in all, seriously, be careful. Don't do anything risky, trust your gut, that kind of thing. There are a lot of bad guys out there, but there are a lot of good people too. Just don't find out the hard way.

And as far as my man D........... I'd trust him a lot farther than I can throw him. He is a solid guy. At the very least he could give you some ideas and options that you might not have thought of.

Yeah baby. Thanks 007, you gave me that warm fuzzy feeling all over.

It's good to know that peeps are in your corner... you need some of that too, ash... and I ain't talkin' about me, I am talkin' about whoever there is in your community that could do something to bail you out. Start callin' in favors if you can. BUT

It sounds like you can't. So you might have to take a more... lateral approach, such as fishing around the forums for help, right? In any case, my offer of neutral advice stands. I just ain't gonna lay it out on the boards.

D

[StealSmoke]

yeha ,I would have t osay your dad only wants to help you, don't do anything drastic and turn your situation into something much worse.

if your dad didnt love you, he wouldnt be bothering himsself and wastign his own time trying to keep you clean and off drugs, don't look at it in such an immature way, you should be understaanding of what he's doing because of WHY he's doign it. to help YOU, or so he thinks, so maybe you should either just clean up, if it's gotten to a bad point, or get your use in control and show him you can be responsible.

don't bite the hand tha tfeeds you, and don't treat the perso nwho probably loves you more than al of your dope f(r)iends and suppliers all put together times ten like he's your enemy.

that's my 2 cents.

[ashx0xlee]

My mother and i don 't get along, if it wasn't for my fathers lock down i would have been thrown out long ago, but between my sister and brother i don't need to cause anymore drama in the household. But i think out of all of this i'm prolly gonna go with your advice, but i still need to hear the guy from ny out. I grew up around guys, i have an idea as to how they work, and when i was 14 most of my friend were in their mid to late twenties and male, so the whole hitting on aspect is nothing new to me...The only thing i have against me is size..but a trusty shank after a few pets on my poison dart frog will make me feel a little safer. Oh and i have swallowed my pride at this point, the nightly searches have just killed any dignity i have..perhaps this is why i am so desperate.



yeah no kidding huh?....Ya know i think your family and mom will feel relieved if you call the pig patrol...you dont have any dope so thats not an issue, and your dad is being the nazi prick I told you about...while at the station you can say you fear for your mom and family and that will help them too...*i had the same notion in my head, *if I call the cops im gonna fuck over my moms and sister* but you have to make a break some how* if you do call the cops make sure you tell them you can't answer the door...he is holding you prisoner...it is against the law and he WILL go down..and a side note..my mom thanked me and welcomed me back with open arms after I did that...she filed for divorce not long after it all went down. I know its a bitch to swallow your pride and just get the food stamps and housing and shit...but I almost starved because of pride...it is a whole lot safer than going to some dudes house that has got a itch for ya. plus it feels really good, to see the nazi prick fall off his high moral horse as it were.

[ashx0xlee]

You don't know my father. He feels that he was fucked over in life and couldn't give a shit about anyone even if he tired. His love is buying me a t-shirt or giving me twenty bucks to go out and then telling me i owe him 40 because of points and holding me too it. But in the same respect i feel as if he is the only person who has been honest to me in life when it comes to my abilities, but to have to hear everyday that i am nothing but a fuck up and a failure and that he doesn't even want to look at me. He took away the anxiety pills i was on and took them himself. The man is nothing but a power hunger drug addict who just took up drinking again, and there is no way i am going to sit there until three am listening to him tell me what a failure i am at life because for six months i did dope when he did it for nine years. I used to step over his body in the morning before school because he would pass out in the hallway. He's a total prick but he's still my father and there is no way i can reject him entirely. I understand that he is trying to help me, but the way in which he is going about it isn't going to do shit. I can't have any social contact, i'm stuck by his side every day and every night just listening to his mouth and its getting to the point in which i don't think he deserves to live. I understand that shit doesn't always work out as planned. I've been through shit.. We all have, but that doesn't mean you can act the way he does, and i'm sorry, i can't turn a blind eye to it the way the rest of my family does. He doesn't attack them in the way he does me because he knows they won't fight back. I can't help it, i'm not going to let someone put me down without a just reason, so i'm sorry if you think that i am making a mistake by trying to get away from him but any emotional problem i have ever had in my life has been because of this man, because i will never reach his standards and i have come to terms with this now and given up.

yeha ,I would have t osay your dad only wants to help you, don't do anything drastic and turn your situation into something much worse.

if your dad didnt love you, he wouldnt be bothering himsself and wastign his own time trying to keep you clean and off drugs, don't look at it in such an immature way, you should be understaanding of what he's doing because of WHY he's doign it. to help YOU, or so he thinks, so maybe you should either just clean up, if it's gotten to a bad point, or get your use in control and show him you can be responsible.

don't bite the hand tha tfeeds you, and don't treat the perso nwho probably loves you more than al of your dope f(r)iends and suppliers all put together times ten like he's your enemy.

that's my 2 cents.

[NV12]

I just have one question: If the situation is as desperate as you say it is, why can't you e-mail a friend or someone you know and have them contact the police? Seems like you have no other option. Like mentioned before, it's false imprisonment and you are an adult. I'm not trying to make light of your situation, but I'm kinda confused as to why you havent contacted the police to get you out of there. It's not like they can hold you or put you into state custody since you're an adult. :confused:

[SpecialGuy69]

Remember the last guy who was imprisoned by his parents?

[ashx0xlee]

Because my father is the only source of income, because my father will never forgive me, and because my family will give me absolute hell over it. The stories i could tell, in which i would have to go off and stay in motels, after fights with my father would amuse you. I tried to call the cops but my mother wouldn't press charges and sent them off and i was sent away for a while because i don't understand what it is to be a human being in their eyes. My parents are young, and i try to be understanding with them because when we were younger they were too busy being strung out and doing their own things. But that didn't stop me from being close to top of my class and keeping up with all that great stuff kids do. I'd rather deal with the stress on my own than removing my father and putting my mother in a situation in which she might lose her apartment because there is no longer a source of income. The way i see it, he is the problem, but i am also a problem, so we must remove one and i believe there will be less damage if i am out of the picture. Plus i am at the age in which i should be leaving the nest. I just wish it could be on better terms.

[I'm sorry if this is all a bit choppy and off i'm a little dope sick so my mind isn't functioning to the best of its abilities]

[nova67]

My mother and i don 't get along, if it wasn't for my fathers lock down i would have been thrown out long ago, but between my sister and brother i don't need to cause anymore drama in the household. But i think out of all of this i'm prolly gonna go with your advice, but i still need to hear the guy from ny out. I grew up around guys, i have an idea as to how they work, and when i was 14 most of my friend were in their mid to late twenties and male, so the whole hitting on aspect is nothing new to me...The only thing i have against me is size..but a trusty shank after a few pets on my poison dart frog will make me feel a little safer. Oh and i have swallowed my pride at this point, the nightly searches have just killed any dignity i have..perhaps this is why i am so desperate.

You don't know my father. He feels that he was fucked over in life and couldn't give a shit about anyone even if he tired. His love is buying me a t-shirt or giving me twenty bucks to go out and then telling me i owe him 40 because of points and holding me too it. But in the same respect i feel as if he is the only person who has been honest to me in life when it comes to my abilities, but to have to hear everyday that i am nothing but a fuck up and a failure and that he doesn't even want to look at me. He took away the anxiety pills i was on and took them himself. The man is nothing but a power hunger drug addict who just took up drinking again, and there is no way i am going to sit there until three am listening to him tell me what a failure i am at life because for six months i did dope when he did it for nine years. I used to step over his body in the morning before school because he would pass out in the hallway. He's a total prick but he's still my father and there is no way i can reject him entirely. I understand that he is trying to help me, but the way in which he is going about it isn't going to do shit. I can't have any social contact, i'm stuck by his side every day and every night just listening to his mouth and its getting to the point in which i don't think he deserves to live. I understand that shit doesn't always work out as planned. I've been through shit.. We all have, but that doesn't mean you can act the way he does, and i'm sorry, i can't turn a blind eye to it the way the rest of my family does. He doesn't attack them in the way he does me because he knows they won't fight back. I can't help it, i'm not going to let someone put me down without a just reason, so i'm sorry if you think that i am making a mistake by trying to get away from him but any emotional problem i have ever had in my life has been because of this man, because i will never reach his standards and i have come to terms with this now and given up.

God...its like you are reliving my life for me hun...all your friends are guys *I assume girls are too catty and bitchy and back stabbing to you to huh?* And my step dads idea to help save me from myself was to take what shit I had on me...do it himself..get totally warped and then rip the phones outta the wall..grab me by the throat or hair and drag me to my room kicking and screaming. but little did he know i busted into the wall and hooked up the little dollar store phone I bought...called the cops...and watched that MF go down as I explained the bruises on my back. My mom NEVER stood up for me in the whole time they were married...and he would put me through soo much hell, when I was even in my very early teens, I had to put up with being cut off from friends and other family, because he wanted to be able to rule with the iron fist. I know how it feels to run EVERY option through your mind, discarding one after the other, wondering what kind of collateral damage you will inflict. But the good thing is...once you are an adult...his control legally ends. if you dont want to be there...use the law to your own good. I am glad you are considering my advice...but it is always good to cover all the angles ya know...as I have said, I lived with the same nazi prick that your dad is...yes he is your father, and it is horribly conflicting when even if he is a bastard you still respect and love him...even in the most remote way. You are NOT what he says you are...you are you...and people are not damned for the mistakes of thier youth, make your break...and then find out who you truly are. I did this and it worked for me...my whole life changed and now I can call my life very good. I found happiness in my life, but I had to make that dissicion first.

[upstate_007]

Remember the last guy who was imprisoned by his parents?

how could we forget

[Papa Verine]

Ashlee,

Get the fuck away from your psycho dad as soon as possible. Whatever you have to do, or however hard it's going to be, you will be better off away from him. Listen to Nova! She did it when she was your age and she's doing well today.

I just can't stand abusive men... child abusers! I know you're not a child anymore but while you're living in his prison, what's the fuckin difference?

Get the fuck away from him. Do whatever you gotta do!!!

That's my 2 pesos.

[Ludakris]

Ashlee,

Get the fuck away from your psycho dad as soon as possible. Whatever you have to do, or however hard it's going to be, you will be better off away from him. Listen to Nova! She did it when she was your age and she's doing well today.

I just can't stand abusive men... child abusers! I know you're not a child anymore but while you're living in his prison, what's the fuckin difference?

Get the fuck away from him. Do whatever you gotta do!!!

That's my 2 pesos.

Pretty much right on here Ashlee...if you stay, it's only going to get worse and worse, and it sounds like your dad has some serious power/control issues (i know, I'm being cap'n obvious here) but the more he holds you down and controls your life, the more he's going to thrive on it...in fact, it sounds like him controlling you is one of, if not the last thing he's got left.

He's obviously lost control of his life so now feels he needs to control someone else's, and unfortunately, this is leading straight to the path of destruction. I know this because my dad was/is the same way, fortunately his mind and body are so deteriorated that he's not really a threat anymore (unless he's behind the wheel of a car).

Once you get out, do whatever you can to survive...you'd be surprised of the options out there for people in your situation. Find some government assistance, move far away, do something, just get the hell away from him before he seriously hurts you. No one should be held prisoner in their own home, dope or no dope, its no excuse for him to do this to you.

~Luda

[Inspektahdek]

Arg. Why must you males be such a let down.


thats what we do, except im the non-sexual predator one heehee :D


tis in our primitive genetics

[allover]

Remember the last guy who was imprisoned by his parents?


I read part of that thread, but then didn't check the site for 2 weeks as I was strung out on heroin. Whatever did happen with that?

Edit: Or please just link thread or tell me what the name of thread was. Forgot both. Thanks!

[jdub]

Come on Ashlee. You are 20 yrs old. GET THE FUCK OUTTA THERE! Stay w/ a friend and get a job. Enroll in school and get a student loan.

Move out. Lots of people your age do it. I did it when I was 17. My parents are cool but I wanted to get out. If it requires calling the cops on your dad because you are imprisoned, so be it. That's on him not you.

And the part about guys being a let down is just bullshit. I see a bunch of guys (and some girls) on here giving good honest advice. Furthermore, you, as an adult women, have played a major role in this debacle and allowed it to continue 2 years longer than it should have. Don't sit here hoping some random internet dude is gonna bail you out. And if guys are such a let down, stay w/ a girl.

If you were joking/being sarcastic in that post, I apologize in advance. Sometimes its hard to tell someones tone from a post. But if you were serious, the paragraph above stands.

I am not trying to be an asshole (that part comes naturally;)). I know your situation sucks and I really hope everything turns out well for you. But you are a grown-up. Time to take your life into your own hands. Good luck and stay safe.

[pharmboy]

You clean ? Hmmmmm

[Raz]

Get out and make your own life....Father or not, he CANT control you....

Simply by postin what you have i think its time to go.AND YOU KNOW THIS in your own mind, dont you?

I think its now just a matter of gettin out the best way,with the best options/oppurtunites...

try and find a friendwho needs a room mate etc.Seems like nova and how long have some good advice for you.I would take it and get out....Baby girl, time to make your own way in the big wide world....

Good luck and stay safe...You would be givin your self a whole world of options if you didnt have a habit when you left....With a habit your choices are gonna be limited,with dope bein number 1...

Concentrate on makin a home for yourself first....Once thats done,then you can relax and party...But some effort in a make a solid base for yourself should be your first prioroty.

Well thats my 2 cents...Wishing you well,take care of yourself....Raz

[nova67]

...Baby girl

The last time I heard someone use those words in combination...it was my cajun daddy *my real father* is that part of your lingo there Raz?

I dont know what happened to her...hope she is ok.....

[SpecialGuy69]

I dont know what happened to her...hope she is ok.....
its only been a couple of hours. safe to say she hasn't died of dehydration yet.

She's fine.

[ashx0xlee]

I'm sorry everyone i found a sub and finally got a few hours of sleep..sorry agentorange for just poofing this damn thing died and i gave up..I don't want to do anything too drastic, and as far as the addiction goes this will be i think day six or seven so i'm coming to the end of my wds...i don't really know at this point. there is much to be thought of today. They have been throwing rehab around, going down to florida and starting over there..i wouldn't have much of a problem with that if he wasn't coming along. [Aunt lives and runs a clinic there] Being that no one knows me its a little harder to see the smaller facts, but normally i'm a very withdrawn person who would prefer to sit by herself for days and just relax [now if thats the case what the fuck am i bitching about] He's over me constantly fucked up MY methadone, drunk, and just spewing an insults that burn through his tongue. Perhaps i'm being childish and i should just see the greater good in which he is trying to do, but he didn't find any dope this time around, not one empty bag...just three klonopins in a littlr dime bag that i must have had the intentions of selling or abusing.. Ho well. I'm just keeping my mouth shut and bidding my time...There are more important things to be concerned about at this point, and now with my head a little bit clearer atleast i know i'm not going to pick the option that is most likely to get me high. Anyway, its time for me to go do my cleaning..I'll talk to everyone later.

[Raz]

The last time I heard someone use those words in combination...it was my cajun daddy *my real father* is that part of your lingo there Raz?

I dont know what happened to her...hope she is ok.....

Its just how i would speak to any young girl goin through "stuff".This young lady is still a Baby girl in my eyes nova....Just a fuck up that this guy is goin about things this way...This kid needs straight talk, not orders or punishment...My straight talk doesnt involve that tired old phrase "Drugs are illegal/bad for you!.......
Hope this kid finds her way.....

[RxQueen]

so i assume that this thread was something that happened a while back? http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=15485

i'm a little confused.

[TOOL]

so i assume that this thread was something that happened a while back? http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=15485

i'm a little confused.


Man not again

[ashx0xlee]

Yeah a few weeks ago

so i assume that this thread was something that happened a while back? http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=15485

i'm a little confused.

[Raz]

So whats happenin now...Peeps are actually tryin to help you here.And it would help if you were a little more clear as to where your at now....

From what i now about opi, help just doesnt come in type...I know of guys here who have actually gotten off there arse and physically helped a fellow member here....

[ashx0xlee]

I waiting on 'd' to see what he has to say.. i need to know what my options are and from what i gather he is one of the go to guys for something like this..

At least i'm at the end of the dope sicknesss

[Raz]

So for the less enlightened amongst us, you are waiting for a response from someone who may help you out practically, not wiv just advice....Am i right in this, please just a straight answer that is self explanatory....

[ashx0xlee]

well that is the impression i got, perhaps i am wrong and if so i hope i don't put this person in any uncomfortable position..its a waiting game...like always.

[SpecialGuy69]

well that is the impression i got, perhaps i am wrong and if so i hope i don't put this person in any uncomfortable position..its a waiting game...like always.wise beyond your years.

Good luck.

[ryan5892]

heroin isnt worth running from the ones who love you believe me, stop using and you will earn your trust back

[ashx0xlee]

I have stopped using..about six days ago, my plan is to try and stick to that until i can get my shit together, and if you were here you would know there is no earning it back, there is no escaping ir.. I did the unthinkable, i'm the ultimate let down, i made them seem like failures, i have no chance in life now ect ect ecc cet ter ra giid sir.

[Black_Pony]

Sounds like a greeting card...

heroin isnt worth running from the ones who love you believe me, stop using and you will earn your trust back

[ashx0xlee]

: ] maybe i'lll have that made up and send it to them after i have settled in else where. Make it have that whole blue skies over some form of water, and then inside in a nice font that message and a few xoxoxoxo to smack them in the face.

[Black_Pony]

Sounds like a hallmark moment, for sure. :p

[HowLongIsTooLong]

Hey ash,

I am having communication problems on this end, that is why I have not been more timely.

Alright, I am gonna need basically what the board has been askin' you, anything you think that I should know, your 'best case' scenario and vice versa, and most importantly, your current, up to date, bleeding edge situation.

This is so I know what you are expecting, and it will also let me know the length and breadth of what I can do for you, if indeed anything. I know that I can help you, ash, we just gotta figure out exactly what you need.

If this sounds too creepy, personal, intrusive, whatever, so be it. I am gonna tell you tho, I am currently involved with a woman who I am absolutely crazy about, and more importantly, am faithful to, so if you are worried on that front, don't be. This is purely pragmatic shit.

If you decide to answer, be sure NOT TO POST ON THE BOARD! Email me, k? But you knew that. ;)

Peace,

D

[stvip]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_03nOQcCNBQ

[ashx0xlee]

: ] reminds me of my grandfathers house.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_03nOQcCNBQ

[Crow]

Good luck Ash. I've been in similar situations, not quite though, my family is all really cool for the most part. Be well, my thoughts are with ya. Atleast you are clean, things will be way easier because of it!

D is awesome, but I'm sure you've already been told that. You'll figure yr shit out, don't worry.

[NV12]

so i assume that this thread was something that happened a while back? http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=15485

i'm a little confused.

I don't know... something doesn't seem quite right. So reminiscent of Floating.

When I read your 6-7 days clean, I immediately thought of this thread and then I saw RX response. Are we the only ones that noticed this?

[Ludakris]

I don't know... something doesn't seem quite right. So reminiscent of Floating.

When I read your 6-7 days clean, I immediately thought of this thread and then I saw RX response. Are we the only ones that noticed this?

I must admit, after reading through this, the "something ain't right here" light went off...but who knows...where's Scooby Doo and the crew when you need them???

[ashx0xlee]

Erm, This happen while i was at my boyfriends in PA a few weeks back,when the blue magic bags just starting popping up so i suggest skimming about and looking for the release dates since i'm sure we had many a threads dedicated to all those american gangster themed bags. it was just something that i was curious about as to why it happened as would anyone else who had their arm puffing up like a balloon. Also, i was still waiting to be approved so it kinda makes it hard to make a thread when you aren't allowed. And i also thought that thewhole point of this form was to ask for advice and or discuss whats happening. My mistake for putting this site to its purpose. Oh and if you really need to fill that little gapping hole in your head with an answer you could msg him and ask, Altek fyi,

I don't know... something doesn't seem quite right. So reminiscent of Floating.

When I read your 6-7 days clean, I immediately thought of this thread and then I saw RX response. Are we the only ones that noticed this?

[SpecialGuy69]

hey ash dont sweat it- you gotta remember a lot of douchebags have come and gone, and one of them made up this total bullshit story that sounded a lot like yours. He was a scumcunt. Floating- look it up.

Dont sweat it.

[StealSmoke]

hmm^, I notice it too, well ,I guess that settles it, the only way Ashlee's can prove she's telllign the truth is to take a dozen nude pictures in 6 sexual positions.

it's now or never ash, it's now or never....

LOL, J/K, hehehe, but isnt floating that guy that posted that essay about getting caught by his parents and havign some huge heroin habit and asking for advice only to be proven a liar and then he stopped posting altogether?

I think it's alot different from this, that guy was obviously lying IMO, he claimed he had a 3.9 GPA, huge tolerance to H, like a kilo(exaggeration) of heroin he was caught with(lmao), and some other off the wall ass shit. this girl only said herdadcaught her with pills and dope nad took away all her privelages and kindagrounded her.

I still believe that your bets bet, Ashlee, is to stay at your hoem, try to show your parents that yo ucan be good, if you didn't finish school, enroll back in school, try to find a job, show some motivation, people are easy to read, if you're living for the next shot of heroin peopel can easily see that, and if you're tryign to better yourself and live a good life people can see that too.

liek I siad, dont do somethign you'll regret and make matters worse for yourself. stay at your house, try to haev a talk wiht your father, tell him youre done iwht that shit, atleast for awhile until you can get your shit together like you said.

your fatehyr obviously loves you, and I think it's very unfair to just up and run away from your entire family and hide fro mthem just ebcause you don't liek the way your dad tried to help get you off drugs, I hear in Russia they handcuff you t oa bed and brign you bread and water until your cravings stop ,adn I believe it was here that this was posted that it was a very common practice to do this over there.

so, try to work with your father, he probably loves you very mcu hbut jus tdoesnt know aht to do with yo uanymore.

work with him, not agains thim. peace.

[ashx0xlee]

My apologies but i wouldn't gain anything from spinning a story to gain sympathy from a bunch of strangers, not my cup of tea, and also i'm just not in the mood to deal with anyones shit, so piss off if your just going to give me grief over asking a fucking question. I've only been doing dope for several months and took it upon myself to shoot up without any guidance and that was towards the beginning of my adventures. Shame on me for looking for a little closure on a mistake i have made.

[Ludakris]

Erm, This happen while i was at my boyfriends in PA a few weeks back,when the blue magic bags just starting popping up so i suggest skimming about and looking for the release dates since i'm sure we had many a threads dedicated to all those american gangster themed bags. it was just something that i was curious about as to why it happened as would anyone else who had their arm puffing up like a balloon. Also, i was still waiting to be approved so it kinda makes it hard to make a thread when you aren't allowed. And i also thought that thewhole point of this form was to ask for advice and or discuss whats happening. My mistake for putting this site to its purpose. Oh and if you really need to fill that little gapping hole in your head with an answer you could msg him and ask, Altek fyi,

I don't think anyone is really trying to "call you out", but people have been known to abuse the site and it's purpose, seeking attention, making shit up to get sympathy and seeking the compassion of people (and believe me, 99% of people here are compassionate, do have great advice, and are just all around great people). But these same people hate being exploited, and since this has happened a lot in the past, we are a bit weary and do try to seek out bullshit when it comes around as to not waste time and resources.

If you read your first post "uh-oh" it appears that you are writing it as if it were happening right then and there which would discredit this thread entirely. Like I said, because of past problems, some members are a little cautious with the Newbs (I was one not that long ago, so I know first hand). I'm not calling you a liar, nor do I think anyone else is...no need to go so far on the defensive.

Enjoy the site, and remember, we are friends, not enemies

[ashx0xlee]

I wish that i could agree with you but it isn't about the heroin so much because he is asking me to get him shit now after he took all my methadone and subs. I can't stand the constant reminder of how i fucked my life up. But, i'm still young and with some help i can get through this. Being told that you don't have a chance anymore kinda fucks with your psych a bit. Again, i have enough sense not to run off with nothing and just hope that luck will be in my favor. Shit, Ryan jackknifed any form of optimism i had by causing me to second guess myself. I want nothing more for things to be peaceful and back to what we considered normality in this family, but it doesn't work that way when it comes to them, because i still hear shit about when i was 12 and sneaking over to the city. At least with them both dosed up i can get some peace for a few more hours.


and as for the nudes..psh SG baby : ]

hmm^, I notice it too, well ,I guess that settles it, the only way Ashlee's can prove she's telllign the truth is to take a dozen nude pictures in 6 sexual positions.

it's now or never ash, it's now or never....

LOL, J/K, hehehe, but isnt floating that guy that posted that essay about getting caught by his parents and havign some huge heroin habit and asking for advice only to be proven a liar and then he stopped posting altogether?

I think it's alot different from this, that guy was obviously lying IMO, he claimed he had a 3.9 GPA, huge tolerance to H, like a kilo(exaggeration) of heroin he was caught with(lmao), and some other off the wall ass shit. this girl only said herdadcaught her with pills and dope nad took away all her privelages and kindagrounded her.

I still believe that your bets bet, Ashlee, is to stay at your hoem, try to show your parents that yo ucan be good, if you didn't finish school, enroll back in school, try to find a job, show some motivation, people are easy to read, if you're living for the next shot of heroin peopel can easily see that, and if you're tryign to better yourself and live a good life people can see that too.

liek I siad, dont do somethign you'll regret and make matters worse for yourself. stay at your house, try to haev a talk wiht your father, tell him youre done iwht that shit, atleast for awhile until you can get your shit together like you said.

your fatehyr obviously loves you, and I think it's very unfair to just up and run away from your entire family and hide fro mthem just ebcause you don't liek the way your dad tried to help get you off drugs, I hear in Russia they handcuff you t oa bed and brign you bread and water until your cravings stop ,adn I believe it was here that this was posted that it was a very common practice to do this over there.

so, try to work with your father, he probably loves you very mcu hbut jus tdoesnt know aht to do with yo uanymore.

work with him, not agains thim. peace.

[ashx0xlee]

and before i go about putting effort into looking this is this the kid who woke up to his parents with all his gadgets and was subliminally trying to get people to deliver him shit?

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

I'm assuming SG means Suicide Girls?

Unless you're posing for profit, and want to post links and shit, why even entertain the notion that you have or will be posting nude flicks?

Ash, I really don't want to preach here, but what you need, if you really have a few months or a year or so habit, is detox and a good program.

Don't get me wrong, for some, opiates are the only way to live life properly and I am not trying to judge you 100% - but you're asking for roomies and shit on opo, or someone to adopt you, don't sell yourself short.

Get out of the rut you're in and get moving forward.

If you want to travel down the beaten path of downtown despair, I'm sure there are PLENTY of people out there who are willing to give you a kick in the wrong direction.

But heed these words, you only live once, every day you don't try to move forward is a day lost in the abyss, and your body won't get any younger.

Marry a rich dude, get a good doctor, and come back with all the great stories you'll have, along with the one that starts with "Remember when I was asking for roomies on opophile!? Well guess what,"

BB

[ashx0xlee]

But what is the fun in that?!?!

I understand that there are going to be creeps and jerks and all other sorts of nasty beings but i'm also going to assume their are people like me who are willing to stick their arm out for someone who has fallen. There are many options in front of me and i have been taking what everyone is saying into consideration. I think its something you would have to live through to fully understand.. But i do have a major decision in which I have to make and i just hope that i am able to make the right one.

[ashx0xlee]

I figure i owe it to you all to get a better understanding of my mentally..sorry for the length

My greatest fear is to be wrong. Horribly wrong. No. My greatest fear is that I will live my life steps away from satisfaction. Have I become so jaded that at twenty I fear constant dissatisfaction? There are days when I feel utterly unimpressed with my world, with few sterling exceptions. I fear that I will once again leave my satisfaction, well-being, drive and common sense in another's hands. The most dangerous thing for my relationships, I have discovered, is my attachment -bordering on emotional dependency- to my lovers and good friends.

Some nights it feels as if my life is the constant tossing and turning of insomnia. The unseeing watery stare in the eyes of those who can only count precious seconds of missing sleep. As if my existence is the never ending quest for rest. Some nights every mistake I have ever made crawls into my thoughts. The never-ceasing clamor that is my wrongdoings roars over rational thought and leaves me raw and strange in my own mind. Still, somehow my first impulse is a warm body or a comforting thought. What place am I in now, that I will not wake a soul to comfort me?

Perhaps there was a point in my past where my devotion made me feel as if such things were owed to me; an unrested lover vying desperately for my comfort, the satisfaction in feeling desired above all others, an open ear for every flaw and failure I have imagined myself in. In retrospect, I do understand why my lovers in the past were unable to cope with me. I hear the demand in my voice now, even in my memories I have discovered a much less desirable perspective on my actions.

These are attacks on my own insecurity more than my partners. Dysfunction becomes function, abnormality follows. Perhaps if I did not know the definition of "co-dependent" in elementary school, I would have been better set to live with others. My life has been a series of poor choices. I spent the majority of my life building fancy psychological barriers between myself and others. At one point I was a pathological liar.

My childhood was built on distrust. Of men. Of my family. Of god and every other damn thing on this planet. I feared. I cowered. I ran. I discovered people I found deserved a conscious attempt on my part to disarm these traits. You know this part. Even if you don't know me the plot line is obvious.

The one thing that I wish to rid myself of forever is the sickening feeling that engulfs me when I have done wrong. Every social mis-step, every horrible decision, and essentially any time I have a reason to feel that I have made a complete ass of myself; the history of every mistake I have made washes over me in waves of horrible regret.

These are simple things; a bad joke that left the room staring blankly in my direction, a misused or misspelled word, or being caught asking a stupid question, and now being a fucking junkie. But of course, the level of consequence doesn't matter.

Regret is too narrow a word. It's as if my feeling of regret or social discomfort triggers a synapse that floods my mind with every moment I've felt bad about myself. The first raw feeling of humiliation, no matter how private, begins to fill my every thought. I'm overwhelmed by the oh - so - many times I've done something improperly. Every thought. Every feeling. Every stomach churning fear. They all come. They come in droves. They fill the spare space in my mind and turn themselves over and over. The cogs of my psyche grind against each other in a desperate attempt to process, to cope, and to discard them.

Imagine if every wretched or even mildly unpleasant experience in your life crowded into every corner of your mind. You're re-living them all. All at the same time. A great way to begin the new year.

Drag me kicking and screaming into your lap and tell me it's all going to be okay. Pet my hair in between each gentle "shhh" and rock me to sleep with your voice. Tell me that I am not going insane, and this is all a part of the developmental process. Kiss my forehead and hold me until my trachea is no longer swollen shut from sobbing.

I need something to rejuvenate me. Something to inspire me. The lingering noise of the television... it takes everything. Where are my emotions? Where is my drive? I wash dishes, cook, eat, wash more dishes, talk on the telephone and go to sleep.

My dreams are so dry it's ludicrous.

I could shave off all of my body hair and join the Hari Krisnas in hope of some enlightenment. I could drink myself to death in the quest of becoming the new Hemingway. I could move to New York city and take two lovers just to invoke that decadent liberal lifestyle that I love so, very, much.

Or I can sit here reminiscing, and wonder why nothing hurts me enough to write about it anymore.

It's not irony. It's just unfortunate.

[Black_Pony]

I hear ya. I use the term 'crippling regret,' to describe my own state sometimes but even that doesn't quite capture the feeling.



Regret is too narrow a word.

[HowLongIsTooLong]

Ash,

Put together some cash, sugar. It makes the world go round. I figure you could buy a week in NYC, no *two* weeks of shelter and minimal food (and drugs of course) for like $400. If you can springboard from that (get a lil' job or something) you'd be good money. There's lots of details of course, and I can handle those for you... BUT I can't front cash. I just don't have it... (for myself, even)...

But I can guarantee you this: If you were to come here to NYC with even as little as $200, I could set you up with a safe rented room situation in like, two hours... for two weeks, with the option to continue, of course, if you got the rent money weekly... at least it's shelter... and you'd have to get hustlin' like posthaste...

How desperate are you? Ask yourself. Would it be better to tough it out in the reg'lar way? If not, I can offer the above help... best I can do.

D

[ashx0xlee]

I wouldn't ask for money from anyone, just a place to lay my head for a few nights. As i've been saying, there is a lot to be considered and it is something i am going to dedicate the rest of my night to. Where there's a will theres a way..its a shame i have to rely on phrases to keep me going but eh..it works.

[Black_Pony]

Remember: A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

-and-

A watched pot never boils.

Just dont look a gift horse in the mouth. Thats all I ask.

Har dee Har :D

I wouldn't ask for money from anyone, just a place to lay my head for a few nights. As i've been saying, there is a lot to be considered and it is something i am going to dedicate the rest of my night to. Where there's a will theres a way..its a shame i have to rely on phrases to keep me going but eh..it works.

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

Yeah let's leave the comfort of our parents home(assuming you're not being molested and they are simply trying to get you to chill out on the dope), for some scum hole in the city(I've lived in Bay Ridge which is considered a nice area in NY, it's death in the form of small caves you rent for $30 a night).

Are you kidding?

Get your head right.

I see you're semi intelligent - get a blog going like that other opio girl, maybe some stupid rich dude will take you into a cushy ass home in a settled down area. If that's what you wanna do, I mean, leave the people who actually care about you for a conditional place in the world.

I think most of us know the mandatory conditions(Ass, cash, or ass, or cash).

This isn't a dream world, Hemmingway is long dead and so are the days in which you can make such a name without dedicating yourself 1000000000%

You don't have any real decisions to make as far as location, your parents probably love you enough to help you through the measly effort it will take you to taper down or detox and get a program.

I know it isn't easy, but you think hustling in the city will be??????

It won't.

You'll end up in the gutter one way or another if you go that route.

Judge me any way you like, that goes for all of you.

"That won't be any fun."

You think this is a game? You can just reset when you're done with whatever isn't "fun"?

It's not and you will find that out REAL SOON if you take that route.

Get real or reality will get you.

Sorry if I sound like a dick, I just get pretty upset when I see shit like this, because I see people who USED to be you out in the streets all the time, they would kill you to take your place, literally.

BB

[Papa Verine]

Yeah let's leave the comfort of our parents home(assuming you're not being molested and they are simply trying to get you to chill out on the dope), for some scum hole in the city(I've lived in Bay Ridge which is considered a nice area in NY, it's death in the form of small caves you rent for $30 a night).

Are you kidding?

Get your head right.

I see you're semi intelligent - get a blog going like that other opio girl, maybe some stupid rich dude will take you into a cushy ass home in a settled down area. If that's what you wanna do, I mean, leave the people who actually care about you for a conditional place in the world.

I think most of us know the mandatory conditions(Ass, cash, or ass, or cash).

This isn't a dream world, Hemmingway is long dead and so are the days in which you can make such a name without dedicating yourself 1000000000%

You don't have any real decisions to make as far as location, your parents probably love you enough to help you through the measly effort it will take you to taper down or detox and get a program.

I know it isn't easy, but you think hustling in the city will be??????

It won't.

You'll end up in the gutter one way or another if you go that route.

Judge me any way you like, that goes for all of you.

"That won't be any fun."

You think this is a game? You can just reset when you're done with whatever isn't "fun"?

It's not and you will find that out REAL SOON if you take that route.

Get real or reality will get you.

Sorry if I sound like a dick, I just get pretty upset when I see shit like this, because I see people who USED to be you out in the streets all the time, they would kill you to take your place, literally.

BB

I completely disagree! Ashlee is living with a father who is not part of the solution, rather THE problem. I say get away from him, however you have to do it, and start life over as an adult. NYC is not going to eat you alive. You can do it Ash! You can't go anywhere living with a father like the one you've described. Maybe my opinion is a little biased because my father is a psycho but either way, you're 20 years old and you should give it a shot!!! I beleive you'll make it on your own.

[ashx0xlee]

How else would you like me to spell it out for you, i'm not going to run off into the city and whore myself for money and keep up a drug habit, i just fucking got done being sick and as of right now i have no intentions of going back to it. There are plenty of people who leave their houses and find a way its just a matter of effort. I moved out to JC when i was 16 and didn't come back until a bit before i was 18. If i could do it then i'm sure as hell i could figure my way around now. You have your lifestyle, your attitude your views and your limits, and i'm sure as hell if someone was disrespecting or revoking any part of yourself you would flip a shit. You are giving the most generic advice possible, so please just stop telling me the same shit over and over again, i got it you don't want me to leave my house because mommy and daddy love me and just want the fucking best for me. When daddy is calling me a fucking slut and tossing me across the room thats fucking love, and when mommy sits there and tells me its my own fault because i shouldn't get in his way thats her loving me right? A few broken ribs along with a few lovely names at three in the morning on a school night is love?? Well i feel sorry for whoever the fuck you end up with. You don't know my situation, and i didn't want to have to share that but if it will get you to shut the fuck up then fine. Just remember you aren't me, and you haven't been through have the shit i have and if i'm wrong and you were abused in any form then you are just a stronger person than i am and capable of handling "tough love"

No thanks. I'd rather swallow my pride and get help from the state then stay here and have him put his hands on me again. I'm not some thick built girl, i'm fucking 100 poundsSo i'm sorry, but your advice is falling on deaf ears so stop wasting your time.

[HowLongIsTooLong]

Hey,

Just so you know, the living situation I am describing is not a scumhole or a cave... it's pretty legit... I did it for years, and many musicians/artists I know do it cause it's cheap in a city that aint.

Sure you gotta share a bath/kitch... but what the fuck. it's a roof.

I am here on the ground ash, and I am callin' it like I see it. Besides, I *live* in the city I am talkin' about. Think about it. And I don't want your cash or your ass! What could be better than that?!

Sheesh. You would think that dude had heard of getting a job.

D

[Thanat0s]

right on ash! go get em grrrl.
youve got defnite spunk and that alone will serve you well on your own...
a rough road but you may more than you knew possible along the way.
trust sparingly and look out for yourxelf nd your friends, youll do fine.

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

How come you didn't say anything about the beatings in the first place I wonder?

They let you leave at 16 and come home at 18?

Need another crutch?

If the beatings are true, I'm sorry for you, but better your dad than your new pimp.

I say that so rudely because I believe you're fronting in the worst way.

If you are, I think you'll find anyone claiming to want to help you is also, so it will work out.

I was reading through this and trying to figure out how many dudes would take you in, and surprisingly, not many. Opiophiles have to be the best group of dopeheads on the net(haha).

You're right, I won't waste my time anymore, while this was amusing, it's no "fun" anymore, because it's obvious your mind is made up.

Someone said "I bet I know where this will end up", and I think I do too.

Have fun in NY, if you can "make it" there, you can "make it" anywhere, just depends on what your definition of "making it" is.

"Can you play an instrument?"

If you move to NY with $200 bucks in your pocket I bet you'll master the skin flute in no time.

Once again, sorry if I come off like an asshole, if I'm wrong and you're really in such a bad place - I apologize, but I guarantee NY will be harder on you than your parents, you have a laptop for fucks sake, I'm willing to bet money you didn't earn that shit. That too along with your dignity will be gone in a few weeks of the city, mark my words. But have "fun".... really.... have fun.

Over and out,
BB

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

Sheesh. You would think that dude had heard of getting a job.

Yeah there's plenty of good jobs for 20 year old users in the city.

Share a kitchen and a bath with who? I'm sure you have her roomies all planned out there Mr. travel agent.

You don't know what the fuck is going to go down so don't act like you do.

On that note, neither do I, so do whatever you think is right, but remember what you've read here.

I had "fun" writing it, because either way, by myself and a few others, you've been warned.

[Thanat0s]

whoa... kinda harsh BB...
perhaps she didnt mention the abuse because most victims dont wear it on their t-shirt...
often shame, guilt, embarrassment etc are the baggage
...what a grotesque post towards someone who might really be sincere in looking for help.

wow, well... i never noticed from your other posts what a dick you could be.
give the girl a break, no need to stir up shit, man.

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

Oh and looking at your myspace, it looks like you really have it rough.

I mean, you look so fucking depressed with your little aids pictures and your tv in your room.

Is that pent up anger I sense in your profile picture, or just a misunderstood cry for help.

I think it's just 20 year old angst.

I'm not trying to hate though, "gimme tha loot" is a hardcore jimmy jam, especially for those beaten and locked down.

Please

BB

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

whoa... kinda harsh BB...
perhaps she didnt mention the abuse because most victims dont wear it on their t-shirt...
often shame, guilt, embarrassment etc are the baggage
...what a grotesque post towards someone who might really be sincere in looking for help.

wow, well... i never noticed from your other posts what a dick you could be.
give the girl a break, no need to stir up shit, man.

As I said,

This shit goes on far too much for me to sit here and act all cool about it.

I'll be done with it now, and like I said, if you really have issues, I do apologize, and yes, get help from the state, don't ask for roomies and split to the city, I mean, seeing as your income is $250,000 and higher and you have college experience. Who paid for that by the way?

I'm being an awful person, I'd call it tough love but I don't know you, I just know if you were my daughter, and were here on this forum doing what you're doing now. I'd hope to hell the words written here struck a nerve.

That's all.

[Papa Verine]

You're way out of line BB, assuming the only way Ash can make it is by prostitutuion. I live in Chicago. I have heard countless stories of Polish immigrants coming here with nothing in their pockets and realizing the American dream. One of my best friends came here as a refugee from communist Poland with 50 cents in his pocket. Now he's got a nice house in the suburbs and he's doing MUCH better then I am.

Your cynical outlook on ashlee's future is disturbing to me. She can make it on her own. She doesn't have to be a prostitute to do it. Some hard work and determination, and she'll be living the good life in a few short years. Call me an Optimist, but like I said, I've listened to a weath of success stories from the Polish immigrants who came to Chicago during the 80's. Not one of them had to resort to prostitution to make it in this country.

Lighten up with your negative attitude!

[HowLongIsTooLong]

This really ain't my type of thing, but...

You need to get a healthy dose of go fuck yourself. You haven't the slightest clue. It's too bad that the world has to be exposed to opinionated, judgmental, ignorant fucktards like yourself. Why would you immediately assume that I am a pimp, or indeed any type of person that is looking to take advantage of *anyone*? Have I given you any inkling of an indicator? I think not. You landed on me with both feet for trying to give someone a hand.

I have my own fucking reasons for wanting to help someone in a scrape and I don't have to explain myself to you or to anyone, really.

Ashlee (sp.?) can check up on me a bit through some of the folks I know pretty well 'round here if she likes... she certainly doesn't need the likes of your monumentally stupid ass... way to help out. You fucking doomsaying, depressive, reactionary fuckstick. You shitheaded, self-righteous, envious cockholster. You are obviously very angry about something. Might want to get some psychopharmacological help... like a massive overdose of cork down your throat. Or would that be cock? Your choice, just make sure to suck it til you choke.

Asshole.

I apologize to everyone for that... I feel like I was attacked spuriously. Sorry...

D

[Suboxstitute]

OK, someone probably already mentioned this but to make this more bearable and stop the cravings, will your folks help you get on sub? Since you're > 18, you are eligible for your own medical assistance IF you are independent.

My daughter up and moved from the midwest to Portland with no job lined up, and an iffy living situation with another young woman (that didn't work out, so when it got real bad, by then she had a boyfriend and they moved in together......) Now, admittedly - she had a college degree from a good school but her first job for over a year was working in a coffee shop. She was willing to take just about anything job-wise just to make a little cash and barely, just barely, made ends meet.

She wasn't living at home before she moved (in college until then) but my ponit is YOU CAN LEAVE if you want to or you stay and try to enliist their help.

Even though I think you said you were thru the worst W/Ds there may be still be value in looking into suboxone treatment - LOOKING INTO IT and then researching the hell out of to decide whether to do it. I am NOT saying that is the automatic answer there are pros and cons. And the people with the pros and cons are ALL over various message boards,

I love my young adult kids to death, and would have them here in a heartbeat if they were in trouble of some kind.... But I truly delieve adult children living at home = a recipe for diaster;parents, esp if controlling already, can't help trying to CONROL your every move even though you are an A D U L T.

sorry if points already made.

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

This really ain't my type of thing, but...

You need to get a healthy dose of go fuck yourself. You haven't the slightest clue. It's too bad that the world has to be exposed to opinionated, judgmental, ignorant fucktards like yourself. Why would you immediately assume that I am a pimp, or indeed any type of person that is looking to take advantage of *anyone*? Have I given you any inkling of an indicator? I think not. You landed on me with both feet for trying to give someone a hand.

I have my own fucking reasons for wanting to help someone in a scrape and I don't have to explain myself to you or to anyone, really.

Ashlee (sp.?) can check up on me a bit through some of the folks I know pretty well 'round here if she likes... she certainly doesn't need the likes of your monumentally stupid ass... way to help out. You fucking doomsaying, depressive, reactionary fuckstick. You shitheaded, self-righteous, envious cockholster. You are obviously very angry about something. Might want to get some psychopharmacological help... like a massive overdose of cork down your throat. Or would that be cock? Your choice, just make sure to suck it til you choke.

Asshole.

I apologize to everyone for that... I feel like I was attacked spuriously. Sorry...

D

Hey sweets,

It seems it is your type of thing, or you've just been holding it in for a while, but I know how people get when they're trying to impress young women.

Did I hit a nerve?

I bet your next private message to her will sound a little different.

I really couldn't give a shit less what you think, and if you think you're helping someone, you're way out dude. You haven't done your homework at all, but ay, to each his own, and I hope it works out for both of you, seriously, I do.

I won't get all personal with you, it wouldn't be right if you really think you're helping someone.

I will say, you are the one coming off really angry, if I didn't hit a nerve, you would brush it off like nothing, but I guess all of that will be exposed in the short term should this little venture go down.

Now look, I'm done trying to preach or even getting involved, if you want to come back with some jabber at me, that's fine, but you really have no idea what you're talking about, it's just making your blood pressure rise, I'm past it.

I really do want to know how this turns out, so I'll check in once a trimester, would that make you uncomfortable dude? Don't worry I don't want any part of whatever you got going on.

Ashlee, I only got angry, and I did act like an asshole, and I got personal, because I have a strong opinion on this, the decision you make regarding this is one that could possibly ruin your life, or it could be the best thing that ever happened to you, if you make the right choice.

You're an ADULT, so you do whatever the fuck you want.

Be sure to keep the board updated on your new digs if you hit the rotten apple, maybe another girl will come through here someday and read this shit and just decide to stay home and finish school.

BB

[ashx0xlee]

Look shithead, first off, pictures don't mean fucking shit, do you want to know how i paid for college? scholarships? oh and how the fuck did i get those? Working my fucking ass off all throughout school. I've been through shit with my father all my fucking life and i will always go back to him because he is my fucking dad, its basic fucking psychology, and yeah i'm 20 and making a quarter mill. Ha. before they made me quit my job i was a manager/bookkeeper at a supermarket pulling in about 300 to 400 a week. This lap top, my computer and most of the shit i own, i bought, if i left it up to them i would have some cheap fucking piece of shit. OH and that TV yeah, grandfather died, got it from his will, my apologies for having a relative with money. And my taste n music..i just don't even see the point in that other than the fact that you haven't a worhty insult or thought to throw at me. I have to give my dad 50 bucks a week to stay here, i have to deal with his shit and for you to try and call me out on all of this because i rejected your poor advice is just fucking childish. Is there anything else you need to know about my life? Should we go day by fucking day? It is impossible for a person who has been through some tough shit to have some happiness within them? I wasn't begging people to take me, just to give me advice as to where i could go, and how i can try to bring some piece to this situation that i am in. Go eat a fucking dick. Everyone else has been nothing but nice and optimistic..i wonder why. I'm sorry if i knocked your manhood over and you had to have a few little testosterone outbursts. And why the fuck are you going after anyone else? if you are as much of the man as you are trying to portray yourself as keep your battles where they belong..too bad most of them are prolly behind a monitor. You have no use, so just move on to another thread

[ashx0xlee]

I had subs, father took them away and took them himself..at leasts he's paying for it now being that he hasn't done dope since he got a hold of mine on new years eve. I don't plan on stopping with school, if anything me leaving my house will give me more of a chance to get some grants and i have good credit so i can get a loan without a cosigner. I might have been a junkie, but i wasn't a complete idiot. I know its a risk i'm about to take but as everyone is saying, i'm 20, its close to the time i get out anyway, and I don't think NY is a bad way to go because their are a lot more possibilities there then i will ever find in jersey.

OK, someone probably already mentioned this but to make this more bearable and stop the cravings, will your folks help you get on sub? Since you're > 18, you are eligible for your own medical assistance IF you are independent.

My daughter up and moved from the midwest to Portland with no job lined up, and an iffy living situation with another young woman (that didn't work out, so when it got real bad, by then she had a boyfriend and they moved in together......) Now, admittedly - she had a college degree from a good school but her first job for over a year was working in a coffee shop. She was willing to take just about anything job-wise just to make a little cash and barely, just barely, made ends meet.

She wasn't living at home before she moved (in college until then) but my ponit is YOU CAN LEAVE if you want to or you stay and try to enliist their help.

Even though I think you said you were thru the worst W/Ds there may be still be value in looking into suboxone treatment - LOOKING INTO IT and then researching the hell out of to decide whether to do it. I am NOT saying that is the automatic answer there are pros and cons. And the people with the pros and cons are ALL over various message boards,

I love my young adult kids to death, and would have them here in a heartbeat if they were in trouble of some kind.... But I truly delieve adult children living at home = a recipe for diaster;parents, esp if controlling already, can't help trying to CONROL your every move even though you are an A D U L T.

sorry if points already made.

[ashx0xlee]

What makes you think i'm not going to finish school? I would have no problem getting into any art school in NY. You act as if i am some stupid little 14 year old who got into a fight with her parents because they said she couldn't go to the movies and ran away for three days. I've said it over and over again, this is something that is going to take a lot of thought because you are right this could make or break me, but i'm going to try and find some form of optimism in this negative situation, i would like to think that i can do something and make something of myself. I don't plan on using, i plan on focusing and working my fucking ass of to make it so that in a few years i can live in what i feel is comfortable

Hey sweets,

It seems it is your type of thing, or you've just been holding it in for a while, but I know how people get when they're trying to impress young women.

Did I hit a nerve?

I bet your next private message to her will sound a little different.

I really couldn't give a shit less what you think, and if you think you're helping someone, you're way out dude. You haven't done your homework at all, but ay, to each his own, and I hope it works out for both of you, seriously, I do.

I won't get all personal with you, it wouldn't be right if you really think you're helping someone.

I will say, you are the one coming off really angry, if I didn't hit a nerve, you would brush it off like nothing, but I guess all of that will be exposed in the short term should this little venture go down.

Now look, I'm done trying to preach or even getting involved, if you want to come back with some jabber at me, that's fine, but you really have no idea what you're talking about, it's just making your blood pressure rise, I'm past it.

I really do want to know how this turns out, so I'll check in once a trimester, would that make you uncomfortable dude? Don't worry I don't want any part of whatever you got going on.

Ashlee, I only got angry, and I did act like an asshole, and I got personal, because I have a strong opinion on this, the decision you make regarding this is one that could possibly ruin your life, or it could be the best thing that ever happened to you, if you make the right choice.

You're an ADULT, so you do whatever the fuck you want.

Be sure to keep the board updated on your new digs if you hit the rotten apple, maybe another girl will come through here someday and read this shit and just decide to stay home and finish school.

BB

[SpecialGuy69]

ok BB you are being a total asshole.

We all jumped down Floating's throat because we caught him red-handed lying. Ashlee has done nothing like that. I'm gonna assume she's telling the truth until she gives me a good reason not to.

Think about it- what if she is telling the truth? (btw I think she is- 100%) You just totally fucked with someone during a bad time in their life, she came to us for support and advice, and you shit on her face. What the fuck. You need to learn where the line is, bro- and when you do, you'll realize that you crossed it waaaay back there, 20 posts ago.

What kind of douchebag picks on a 20 year old dopesick girl? What does that say about you? Thats so fucking low. Only a weak-dick motherfucker would bash a dopesick, sad girl. You feel the need to bash someone, try me, or WarmCyanide, or Luda, or PapaV, or HLITL, or BlackPony. We will give it right back to you and send you fuckin crying home, just like you're tryin to do to Ashlee.

I can't stand to see this wife-beater mentality.

Shut the fuck up if you got nothing nice to say.

Asshole.

[Inspektahdek]

lol i'm not gonna run off with some 50 year old guy who is going to promise me my every desire so long as i let him get knee deep in my beef pockets every now and then. Sorry i'm just not that type of gal. I'm just looking for some help from some people who have somewhat of an idea of what i am going through/won't think of me as some scum who hides behind their addiction.


in light of the situation, no one is thinking you're willing to give your goodies up for helter skelter, and the term "beef pockets" I have never heard and is still making me laugh as I type, ahahahhaha, beef pockets. I'm in the US right now on business and I saw something at the store called hot pockets, one product was a hamburger, I wonder if they have "beef pockets" I'm probably chomp on a few of those, hahahahahahaha!

You've a nice sense of humour girl :D

[Inspektahdek]

Hey there...get out, get a bus ticket "pinch the money if you have to" get the fuck outta jersey...or go to your nearest social and human services office and get an application for public assistance housing and food stamps...i ran off from home when I turned 18 this way...and It wasn't really that bad...you dont wind up in the ghetto, you can pick which apartment you want and such...and it will get ya through until you get a job or a roomie to live with...I mean they wont let ya live in park avenue...but at least you can say I wont live in X place either. but as the old saying goes "beggers can't be choosers" At least i was able to get away from my nazi step dad..and make a start. And you aint no kid...20 is an adult in the laws eyes...and you know you can call they cops...or if you are not allowed the phone get online and try to contact them...tell them that you are under false imprisonment...my step dad was thrown in the cage for 48hrs...long enough for me to make my break...so if I were you I'd get crackin. I know all to well what it is like to live with an evil, sadistic, bastard of a father figure in my life. get out now or he will start bolting doors and cutting phone lines....



nova has some good ideas, a bus ticket isn't that bad of an idea, just make sure you have a destination or a place to go, you don't want to get dropped off somewhere and if all else fails have to resort back to your parents, might make problems worsen, no?

[Inspektahdek]

there has to be some guy who likes you enough to let you crash on his couch but still respects you enough to not rape you. I wish I had better advice than "play some guy who thinks your cute" but thats all i got for you right now. Sorry.


forgot to double quote, sorry moddles; yeah, you're a good looking girl, no doubt you have guy friends, whether or not you've been sexual with them is none of my business. But as a female with good lucks, ESPECIALLY being a female, there should be guys you know that would let you stay at their place, on the couch or somewhere besides their bed, then they wouldn't have that option if you're trying to stay from them sexually. Even without knowing the person, tons of guys wouldn't mind having an attractive female chilling at their place let alone have you there just for company. Plus you said you can cook and even clean, shit I would let any girl half-way good looking just to have around to just have as company and if they cooked, I'd let the girl stay as long as they wanted. You'd be surprised at however many guys would let you do JUST THIS, you live in Jersey right? Go contact some of your guyfriends, and work your way up.

Good Luck

[ashx0xlee]

I know i know..I'm getting some shit together now, i just need the funds but two or three more days and i can have that taken care of two, and hey i have to have a sense of humor..how else would i still be alive?

[ouch]

Im not gettin into this but I just wanted to say good luck with everything you seem like a good person.

[ashx0xlee]

The problem with staying with a friend Inspektahdek (http://forum.opiophile.org/member.php?u=1779) is that they are all away at college and i'm not going to risk getting them thrown out for harboring an outsider,that or they still live at home..perhaps i need to make some friends who are a bit more mature. And thank you for your compliments but i would hope to use my physical features as a last resort even though i know they are going to be part of the reason i'm stepping foot inside someones place..Good thing i got a monster on my stomach to scare them all away..its either that or "BOOM..head shot":D

[Crow]

in light of the situation, no one is thinking you're willing to give your goodies up for helter skelter, and the term "beef pockets" I have never heard and is still making me laugh as I type, ahahahhaha, beef pockets. I'm in the US right now on business and I saw something at the store called hot pockets, one product was a hamburger, I wonder if they have "beef pockets" I'm probably chomp on a few of those, hahahahahahaha!

You've a nice sense of humour girl :D

Enjoy yr stay bro, where you visiting? And here onbusiness? You mean you have a "real" job besides making music!? ;) If only life were that easy, ay?


P.S. I too caught quite a giggle at "beef pockets"....I will never, however, think of a hot pocket the same way ever again. Just don't fuck em while they are tooo hot, let em cool down a bit first......sorry guys....heheh.

[NV12]

Look- don't get me wrong, I'm sorry you're in the situation you're in. I guess I'm just a little confused as to exactly what the situation/circumstances is... Are you trying to get out of the house but you can't? It would just seem logical that if your dad is beating on you, stealing your meds, and taping the windows shut that you would find some way to contact someone and let themknow the situation. Do you ever get let out of the house? If so, when you're in public can you ask someone for help?

I am not making light of the situation if this is what you're dealing with. Did you say you were 20 making a quarter million??? If that's true, then what's the problem... just a little confused that's all.

[ashx0xlee]

Inspektahdek where are you in the states?

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

ok BB you are being a total asshole.

We all jumped down Floating's throat because we caught him red-handed lying. Ashlee has done nothing like that. I'm gonna assume she's telling the truth until she gives me a good reason not to.

Think about it- what if she is telling the truth? (btw I think she is- 100%) You just totally fucked with someone during a bad time in their life, she came to us for support and advice, and you shit on her face. What the fuck. You need to learn where the line is, bro- and when you do, you'll realize that you crossed it waaaay back there, 20 posts ago.

What kind of douchebag picks on a 20 year old dopesick girl? What does that say about you? Thats so fucking low. Only a weak-dick motherfucker would bash a dopesick, sad girl. You feel the need to bash someone, try me, or WarmCyanide, or Luda, or PapaV, or HLITL, or BlackPony. We will give it right back to you and send you fuckin crying home, just like you're tryin to do to Ashlee.

I can't stand to see this wife-beater mentality.

Shut the fuck up if you got nothing nice to say.

Asshole.

Here comes the ban eh?

Apparently you:

a) Haven't read the thread from the beginning, which I made sure to before I posted in the first place.

b) Think you're billy bad ass because you're a moderator, yeah you can ban me, but rest assured you or anyone else won't be sending me home crying tough guy.

c) ARE gullible as fuck, in which case, I feel sorry for you being that this is a tough time to be a gullible fuck in.

d) Have a soft spot for young girls with ADD and a problem with authority, I only wish I had it as "Bad" as she does.

You think you're impressing someone? Take her in and get her clean without molesting her, that would be impressive, until then, you're just a couple of pixels on my screen, and a bump for her to jump the next bus to hell.

Did she not say she was clean and on house arrest? Bad time? Why because her rents care about her enough to put a foot in her ass for doing dope?

You didn't take the time to read my posts, you have a superiority complex, I bet if you can't argue me out you'll simply ban me and be done, that's cool, but I guarantee in the long run it won't be good for the board. Forums are a place for opinions to be voiced, I did just that, and as I stated more than a couple of times, I got angry for good reason.

You didn't impress me, apparently you don't have the time to read through being that you're so busy with all your duties of administering, you don't have the time for a proper opinion. You just use words like doushebag and hope that your Admin status is going to scare me into submission.

You came off like the doushebag here gully.

If you don't like reality, stick your face back into the television, because in the street your little title under your name just doesn't hold much water. I bet it makes you happy though, knowing you get to go home and fuck with other peoples discussions.

You name a lot of names, hopefully one or two of them can read through my posts and understand what I am saying. Possibly a couple of them won't be as gully as you are, Johnny.

With love,
BB

[ashx0xlee]

I haven't been out of my house in i think seven days now because my father thinks i am back on dope and i'm going to have my dealer come through the windows so thats why they are sealed. The abuse is more verbal than physical, and comes depending on what he's on. When he's drunk or coked up he is not to be messed with, the problem is i too have a mouth, if you haven't noticed, and thats usually why things tend to escalate the way they do. As far as going for hn't want the sole provider for my family and i don't want to put us out on the street. I'd rather remove myself. and yeah the money thing..sarcasm..i'm broke as fuck. My parents made me quit my job when they found out about the heroin and took my debit card withdrew the cash and closed the account. Now i'm not going to steal i would rather do without or figure out some other way.




Look- don't get me wrong, I'm sorry you're in the situation you're in. I guess I'm just a little confused as to exactly what the situation/circumstances is... Are you trying to get out of the house but you can't? It would just seem logical that if your dad is beating on you, stealing your meds, and taping the windows shut that you would find some way to contact someone and let themknow the situation. Do you ever get let out of the house? If so, when you're in public can you ask someone for help?

I am not making light of the situation if this is what you're dealing with. Did you say you were 20 making a quarter million??? If that's true, then what's the problem... just a little confused that's all.

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

Oh yeah,

Ashlee,

I noticed you play World of Warcraft and Counterstrike.

You must have a lot of free time on your hands, I mean, aside from when you're not asking for attention or getting beaten, this is a fun thread if you like bullshit.

I called you out, you got angry, and just like many situations, you found a few loyal "men" who have a soft spot for little pink haired girls.

Go back to Gaming, stay out of the streets and if you use dope at all, do it for 1 to 2 days and rest a week.

I know how much fun it must be to get some gully kid to hook you up and go home and "boom head shot" people. Act like you don't game and I'll link to some of your myspace comments.

If I was your parents you'd best bet I'd be fucking flipping on you too.

Who pays your monthly WOW bill?

Ungullible,
BB

[HowLongIsTooLong]

I guess he doesn't get it.

I will spell it out for you:

Most everyone on this thread, nay, this forum could care less about your excessively abrasive opinions.

So do us all a favor, and shut the fuck up?!

Thanks.

Asshole.

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

I know some see right through this.

I just wonder why they don't speak on it, is it because she seems like a pretty little girl, or is it because you just don't give a fuck because like me, you've heard it all before.

Like I said, stick to gaming, don't get involved with people you don't know, in places you don't know.

If you do, remember these words, if not for how much of a dick I was, then for how true they become.

Save yourself.

[rcb]

I gotta say.. it seems that everybody here wants whats best for those in need. Its just impossible to know whats really going on..
I don't think this community needs the hostility..

[SpecialGuy69]

I am not making light of the situation if this is what you're dealing with. Did you say you were 20 making a quarter million??? If that's true, then what's the problem... just a little confused that's all.
NV- nah, she just checked that box on myspace. its a pretty personal thing to post your actual income on myspace so lots of people do that.

BB- My name isn't gilly or Johnny or anything else you called me. I'm not gonna ban you or edit your posts or anything else. I'm not a mod.

I'm not gonna go back and forth with you- its stupid and I dont hate you or anything, I just didn't like what you had to say. Its not something you should get all worked up over.

And yes, I do have a soft spot for her- she reminds me a lot of myself, and we all know how much I dig #1...

SO, thats it, I guess. I hope you decide to leave this thread be, you got it all off your chest, and from here on out, be be nicer to her... Picking on girls is fucked up.

[ashx0xlee]

I was until i lost my job, now its on hold..now can you explain to me what gaming has to do with me being a bullshit artist? Did i at any point say that i was locked in a room that i could only take two steps in any direction without a light and just my laptop that i hid in here because i have amazing foresight? Give up already.

and just for the record its Ashley : ]


Oh yeah,

Ashlee,

I noticed you play World of Warcraft and Counterstrike.

You must have a lot of free time on your hands, I mean, aside from when you're not asking for attention or getting beaten, this is a fun thread if you like bullshit.

I called you out, you got angry, and just like many situations, you found a few loyal "men" who have a soft spot for little pink haired girls.

Go back to Gaming, stay out of the streets and if you use dope at all, do it for 1 to 2 days and rest a week.

I know how much fun it must be to get some gully kid to hook you up and go home and "boom head shot" people. Act like you don't game and I'll link to some of your myspace comments.

If I was your parents you'd best bet I'd be fucking flipping on you too.

Who pays your monthly WOW bill?

Ungullible,
BB

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

AO,

I'm picking on nobody.

You need to look a bit deeper, that's all.

When you do, I think you'll find out everything isn't exactly as it seems.

I'll stick to my story here,

Ash,

Save your time, and yourself, and work with your parents, don't lie to people and beg for mercy on a forum, it's really not a good look at all.

You still didn't answer who pays your World of Warcraft bill, you said they shut your account right?

I'd bet 1million gold and a super duper crystal dwarf sword it starts with a D and ends in ADDY

Ungully since the jump,
BB

[ashx0xlee]

Uh, lemme just throw this out there since we are nine pages deep now..i got busted for dope on new years eve..detoxed cold turkey and shit went back to normal..My father found klonopins, and thats why he flipped out this time, they have no idea that i was still doing dope because i was passing weekly drug tests and making sure i was out of the house when i was using. Now, if i got caught for dope again wouldn't be much of a problem and i'd be a bit more understanding, but for a few pills in a bag, no, there is no need for him to act like this, even more so being that he took the pills himself.

[NV12]

Oh and if you really need to fill that little gapping hole in your head with an answer you could msg him and ask, Altek fyi,

Seriously....? Was that directed at me? A little defensive aren't we? I'm still trying to figure out what it is that you're trying to accomplish... are you trying to get help to get out of the situation and out of that house? My original response to this thread was not cruel or ill intentioned, just asking questions about the situation... no need for childish comments. You certainly don't have to prove yourself to me or anyone else on this board... you never specified in your other thread when that happened so I took it as face value, not knowing that you missed your shot several weeks ago...

And gapping is actually spelled gaping :)

[bluesubaru]

i was wondering how long it would take for someone to call bullshit haha

[ashx0xlee]

My parents wouldn't pay for shit like that, they don't see the point in it so uh sorry. If you want you can pay for it and give me something to do for the rest of the night
AO,

I'm picking on nobody.

You need to look a bit deeper, that's all.

When you do, I think you'll find out everything isn't exactly as it seems.

I'll stick to my story here,

Ash,

Save your time, and yourself, and work with your parents, don't lie to people and beg for mercy on a forum, it's really not a good look at all.

You still didn't answer who pays your World of Warcraft bill, you said they shut your account right?

I'd bet 1million gold and a super duper crystal dwarf sword it starts with a D and ends in ADDY

Ungully since the jump,
BB

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

Ok so basically, what I'm getting is:

A) You're not dopesick at all

B) You've had a habit for about 6 months

C) You're 20 years old and your parents let you play Counterstrike and World of Warcraft for weeks on end while doing dope and working NIL. You don't even HAVE TO LOOK FOR A JOB.

D) You want someone to take you in, from a forum called opiophile(how many other forums/myspace users have you lied to and tried to con I wonder)

E) You like attention, and you claim your daddy doesn't let you out, but on myspace you speak of going out all the time with your girls and some gangster kids, and mostly talk about gaming.

The list could go on and on, but I'm not trying to hurt you here, I'm trying to wake you up.

This is what I'm 90% sure of, what I am unsure of is how you think you're going to keep gaming when you're out on the street and people expect things from you. It's a pretty cold world out there sweety.

Doubt me and find out.

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

Now we're getting down to the nitty gritty.

You want someone to pay for your World of Warcraft account.

I bet you would stay home and forget all about this in that case, eh?

[ashx0xlee]

It wasn't meant as sarcastic as it sounds, and i suppose i am sorry for quoting you specifically. What i'm trying to get out of this is advice and ideas as to where i could go is all, i've said it many times, and most have given me that and i am grateful for it,and i'm sorry to be a bit snippy you caught me in the middle of withdrawing so yeah..

Seriously....? Was that directed at me? A little defensive aren't we? I'm still trying to figure out what it is that you're trying to accomplish... are you trying to get help to get out of the situation and out of that house? My original response to this thread was not cruel or ill intentioned, just asking questions about the situation... no need for childish comments. You certainly don't have to prove yourself to me or anyone else on this board... you never specified in your other thread when that happened so I took it as face value, not knowing that you missed your shot several weeks ago...

And gapping is actually spelled gaping :)

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

i was wondering how long it would take for someone to call bullshit haha

I called it from the jump off.

But I just happened to stumble on this thread tonight.

Ash,

As your fellow CS players would say.

GG noob

[SpecialGuy69]

Okay. I'm gonna respond a bit I know i said i wouldnt but what the hell. First off, I'm not gonna call you names. I expect the same courtesy back. I was pissed off in my previous post and I'm not pissed anymore. So, here goes.

you have every right to voice your opinion.

If you don't like reality, stick your face back into the television, because in the street your little title under your name just doesn't hold much water. I bet it makes you happy though, knowing you get to go home and fuck with other peoples discussions.


I just dont like people picking on young girls. If I saw you smackin a young chick in real life, I'd step in, too.

I dont watch television, ever. If you said computer, you'd be pretty much right on. But in the street, I dont need a title. I got myself out of the street by my own hard work, perseverance, determination, and discipline. I can still walk tall on any street in any hood, but I dont need to anymore because I have taken my life to a higher level. No disrespect to anyone who's still grindin every day, but I did that and I hope I never go back.

You name a lot of names, hopefully one or two of them can read through my posts and understand what I am saying. Possibly a couple of them won't be as gully as you are, Johnny.
I named some of the people on here who can defend themselves better than a 20 yo girl. She's brand new and probably worried that if she mouths off too bad, she'll get banned.

Just treat females with respect. I may not be a mod, but this is still MY house (and everyone else's too) and I dont just ignore a big dude bashin a young girl in my house, regardless of the circumstances.

Do we understand each other?

[stvip]

BB, the thing is - we've all heard you the first time. You keep repeating yourself ad nauseam, with undulating levels of abusiveness. This is regardless to whether I agree with the content of your posts, which is irrelevant to the fact that you're making a nuisance out of yourself. And yes, I understand you have a preternatural certitude of the correctness of your wild conjecture and feel the need to share it with us all, open our eyes to the coruscating pearls of your infinite wisdom, but nevertheless, please shut up. Save those energies and join Jehovah's Witness our something, at least people can then physically throw you out.

[NV12]

It wasn't meant as sarcastic as it sounds, and i suppose i am sorry for quoting you specifically. What i'm trying to get out of this is advice and ideas as to where i could go is all, i've said it many times, and most have given me that and i am grateful for it,and i'm sorry to be a bit snippy you caught me in the middle of withdrawing so yeah..

Fair enough- no hard feelings.... but I'm STILL confused. What exactly are you trying to accomplish? Are you wanting to know what you could do to earn money to support yourself? I really don't understand b/c you haven't answered the question. If you are boarded shut in your house by an abusive father, how are you planning to get out even if someone offered you a place to stay?? From your accounts, the situation doesn't sound good at all, and the only suggestion I had was to get the law involved to get you safely out of the house. Are you being held in the house against your will or not?

and FYI, the point of my above response is that I think sometimes we (including myself) should choose our words carefully, even when going through a rough time. Just a little simple respect is all...

[Ludakris]

BB, the thing is - we've all heard you the first time. You keep repeating yourself ad nauseam, with undulating levels of abusiveness. This is regardless to whether I agree with the content of your posts, it is irrelevant to the fact that you're making a nuisance out of yourself. And yes, I understand you have a preternatural certitude of the correctness of your wild conjecture and feel the need to share it with us all, open our eyes to the coruscating pearls of your infinite wisdom, but nevertheless, please shut up. Save those energies and join Jehovah's Witness our something, at least people can then physically throw you out.

AMEN!

I'm all for open argument and debate, hell, how much fun would this place be without it. It seems like BB was spinning in circles either trying to get the last word in, or attempting to change the opinions of the opiophiles who are trying to contribute in some positive way to this girls problem.

He keeps saying things like, read the whole post, you don't know what your talking about...blah blah blah, well, if you had read the whole post...how can you in good conscience say that her father is doing her good by taking her dope/subs/K-Pins and holding her hostage? My dad sold my first car to gambling in Vegas, then came home piss drunk, tried to kill and bury my dog in the backyard and then shoved a gun in my stepmom's mouth, but then told me not to drink or do drugs...so that means he's got my best interest in mind right, as long as he is telling me that I'm a fuck up, no matter that he's one himself, right?

No one is trying to strip you of your right to opinion, or hold some faux title over your head, or whater other crap you've managed to come up with in your childish, bashing/flaming posts. So you hit a nerve with a few people, congrats, now pat yourself on the back and call it a day.

[resorcinol]

BBgunned, you're being such a major dick. What did Ashlee do to you that you feel you must barge into this thread and start up a fracas with her?

I don't understand why people call bullshit so much anyway. I understand it when it's GLARINGLY obvious and/or the situation is so outlandish and has so many holes in the story that it's just reeking with BS, but nothing Ashlee has said is like that. She seems totally genuine. Why do some people pick on other people like this?

Ashlee, you seem like a really cool, nice young woman. I really hope you find a way out of the sucky situation you're in. Life has a lot to offer you, and you're not in a very good environment for growth right now. I wish you success.

[Inspektahdek]

Already has. Every window in our house is bolted and nailed in the most obnoxious way possible, there is tape in case i try and more shit around, i'm only getting internet because i live in an apt building and i am leeching off the guy next to me. Today is the first day in five days i have been left in a room by myself. I've thought about doing that, the whole cops bit, but i wouldn't want to put my mother through all that shit along with the rest of my family. As far as money goes i have about five dollars to my name, but i'm fortunate enough to know how to sew along with a few other artsy things that those emo gals will pay 30 bucks for a heart and some words sewn on to a shirt that cost me two bucks. I figure if i can sell enough stuff and not blow the money on dope i will be able to secure a place somewhere, even if it means going to social services for help. It just isn't humane anymore.


Hmm, are you leeching form wireless, you get a decent connection? Also here's a tip I learned in the states, people with wireless routers even if they have protection from people leeching their internet and have a password, the password for ALL LINKSYS routers is "admin" and most people leave their password as the default. I have a playstation portable (PSP) and when I'm in the states I've driven for 2 hours and stopped and even got signals at a fast food restaurant parking lot, not BROADBAND fast, but fast enough for me to send and receive emails within a few minutes. good scheisse mann! PS= you have $5 USD to your name, you must be completely dry in the veins of scaggity H or are chippin in a miniscule fashion, either that or you have really nice "Giving" scag freundilingas'

I think its going to come down to that no matter what, at least i'm not that harsh on the eyes, i would just prefer to avoid the whole raping bit. But, ya never know perhaps there just are some genuine people out there..i doubt it if they are anywhere near my age and have a dick, but one can hope.

hahaha

Stay tuned folks up next.......... TO CATCH A PREDATOR:D

this thread is consistently making me laugh again and again

Arg. Why must you males be such a let down.

Because that's what us guys do, let or lay people down, emotionally and physically.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D

[SpecialGuy69]

BBgunned, you're being such a major dick. What did Ashlee do to you that you feel you must barge into this thread and start up a fracas with her?

I don't understand why people call bullshit so much anyway. I understand it when it's GLARINGLY obvious and/or the situation is so outlandish and has so many holes in the story that it's just reeking with BS, but nothing Ashlee has said is like that. She seems totally genuine. Why do some people pick on other people like this?

Ashlee, you seem like a really cool, nice young woman. I really hope you find a way out of the sucky situation you're in. Life has a lot to offer you, and you're not in a very good environment for growth right now. I wish you success.haha next he's gonna say YOU are tryin to get in her pants, resorc!!!

[ashx0xlee]

I know and i apologize for that, money i have an idea of, if i can find a place to live, it won't be hard to get a job, and i think i just got one of those. And as far as getting out i would use my cat like ninja skills and poof before daybreak, and again as much as i would like to get the law involved i don't need the idea of the rest of my on the streets because my father is locked up over our fighting. My mother can't work, and someone needs to pay the rent around here.

Fair enough- no hard feelings.... but I'm STILL confused. What exactly are you trying to accomplish? Are you wanting to know what you could do to earn money to support yourself? I really don't understand b/c you haven't answered the question. If you are boarded shut in your house by an abusive father, how are you planning to get out even if someone offered you a place to stay?? From your accounts, the situation doesn't sound good at all, and the only suggestion I had was to get the law involved to get you safely out of the house. Are you being held in the house against your will or not?

and FYI, the point of my above response is that I think sometimes we (including myself) should choose our words carefully, even when going through a rough time. Just a little simple respect is all...

[ashx0xlee]

Wow..I'm sorry everyone i did not intend this drama

and uh maybe i should through this out there, no one outside myself is getting in my pants.....even though my sex drive is back and better than ever now that i'm clean

[stvip]

Even with parents who are far, far less abusive than what Ashlee describes, getting out of a dysfunctional house can do wonders to one's happiness and self-esteem. The toll of emotional abuse going on from childhood is underrated.
But generally, since when is it that such a big deal for an adult to strike on their own? Since when can young adult females get by in the "real world" only by prostitution?
I guess it could be more difficult in the US than in Israel or most European countries, but even in the US - aren't you entitled to welfare benefits if you fail to find a job? Otherwise, my advice if you're set on leaving: just secure yourself a job before actually doing so. Frankly, in my opinion, if your parents were truly looking out for your own good, they would support you in this decision.
Why not?
One last suggestion - why not enroll in a college/university and live in the student dorms? Perfectly acceptable (and popular) option for 20 years old.

[rcb]

Even with parents who are far, far less abusive than what Ashlee describes, getting out of a dysfunctional house can do wonders to one's happiness and self-esteem. The toll of emotional abuse going on from childhood is underrated.
But generally, since when is it that such a big deal for an adult to strike on their own? Since when can young adult females get by in the "real world" only by prostitution?
I guess it could be more difficult in the US than in Israel or most European countries, but even in the US - aren't you entitled to welfare benefits if you fail to find a job? Otherwise, my advice if you're set on leaving: just secure yourself a job before actually doing so. Frankly, in my opinion, if your parents were truly looking out for your own good, they would support you in this decision.
Why not?
One last suggestion - why not enroll in a college/university and live in the student dorms? Perfectly acceptable (and popular) option for 20 years old.

I agree. Get out of a bad situation and use those scholarships. This is your best bet.

[ashx0xlee]

That was a back up plan, but at this point to apply for housing at any school i'd have to wait for the fall semester which isn't much help now
Even with parents who are far, far less abusive than what Ashlee describes, getting out of a dysfunctional house can do wonders to one's happiness and self-esteem. The toll of emotional abuse going on from childhood is underrated.
But generally, since when is it that such a big deal for an adult to strike on their own? Since when can young adult females get by in the "real world" only by prostitution?
I guess it could be more difficult in the US than in Israel or most European countries, but even in the US - aren't you entitled to welfare benefits if you fail to find a job? Otherwise, my advice if you're set on leaving: just secure yourself a job before actually doing so. Frankly, in my opinion, if your parents were truly looking out for your own good, they would support you in this decision.
Why not?
One last suggestion - why not enroll in a college/university and live in the student dorms? Perfectly acceptable (and popular) option for 20 years old.

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

OOOOO,

Someone has back now,

You won't need it, I feel I've made my point here.

If you're dumb enough to buy into the shit, joke's on you.

I'm sorry to everyone but all of you, I admit I've been a bit gaysy.

With Love,
BB

[rcb]

The best things in life come with time.

Unless you have a solid connect..

[ashx0xlee]

the length of my habit doesn't matter, because i was stupid enough to bring myself to going through a bundle in two days, When i had my job i had it for four years and didn't leave it until jan 15th because i had to give two weeks, I have been looking for a job, and kinda secured one at a pizza place once this one girl leaves. I have no reason to go on some forum and lie about my situation, again i would gain nothing from it, nor would i ever en dare try and use my myspace to find anyone to help me with this. See i figured being a site dedicated to opiates that maybe the problem that i was having that was cause by opiates...could find some form of a solution here. I don't know what girls you speak of, and i have plenty of friend whom i would game with twice my age with careers and addictions who can still game...i just don't get where you are going with this other than trying to grab some attention, but i'm the one who is scrounging about for it right?

Ok so basically, what I'm getting is:

A) You're not dopesick at all

B) You've had a habit for about 6 months

C) You're 20 years old and your parents let you play Counterstrike and World of Warcraft for weeks on end while doing dope and working NIL. You don't even HAVE TO LOOK FOR A JOB.

D) You want someone to take you in, from a forum called opiophile(how many other forums/myspace users have you lied to and tried to con I wonder)

E) You like attention, and you claim your daddy doesn't let you out, but on myspace you speak of going out all the time with your girls and some gangster kids, and mostly talk about gaming.

The list could go on and on, but I'm not trying to hurt you here, I'm trying to wake you up.

This is what I'm 90% sure of, what I am unsure of is how you think you're going to keep gaming when you're out on the street and people expect things from you. It's a pretty cold world out there sweety.

Doubt me and find out.

[Raz]

This is one crazy arse thread.....Baby girl,if you can get the same reactions outta people in the real world your goin places......

In my mind the easiest thing that will give you immediate relief is; find one of your bad motherfucking friends who are street bad and just get them to have a little word wiv Daddy.Like "touch Ashlee one more time arsehole and youll be lucky if ya can swallow hospital food" Or whatever it takes for this wanker to keep his fuckin abusive hands off you....

I'm a 44yr old father ok...And beatin your 100lb daughter is sick...So this cunt needs "help".And i know 10 minutes wiv me he would see the errors of his parentin...
If he stayed out of your face would things get cool at home?

[Inspektahdek]

random thought, I, Herr dek, have never IV'd scag, yet, where I live if they came in bag form (brand names I've heard american gangster, blue magic, etc. etc.) I would never IV anything I didn't or know someone I trust that did it or saw someone IV it.

I would then proceed to insuffulate or snort the bag to make sure it's straight before. I'm just really cautious, or maybe not? Once you mainline something into your veins, you can't reverse it unless you have narcan prepped points laying about.

That's just me though

[Black_Pony]

That is a damn smart practice. Thats how people OD, from shooting some new shit. Come to find out the shit is laced with fent and you took way too big a shot.

If everyone displayed the same desire for self preservation you have and tested their bag first, the world would be a better place.

random thought, I, Herr dek, have never IV'd scag, yet, where I live if they came in bag form (brand names I've heard american gangster, blue magic, etc. etc.) I would never IV anything I didn't or know someone I trust that did it or saw someone IV it.

I would then proceed to insuffulate or snort the bag to make sure it's straight before. I'm just really cautious, or maybe not? Once you mainline something into your veins, you can't reverse it unless you have narcan prepped points laying about.

That's just me though

[Inspektahdek]

The problem with staying with a friend Inspektahdek (http://forum.opiophile.org/member.php?u=1779) is that they are all away at college and i'm not going to risk getting them thrown out for harboring an outsider,that or they still live at home..perhaps i need to make some friends who are a bit more mature. And thank you for your compliments but i would hope to use my physical features as a last resort even though i know they are going to be part of the reason i'm stepping foot inside someones place..Good thing i got a monster on my stomach to scare them all away..its either that or "BOOM..head shot"

click click click............ no head shot girl, not worth it, ive been through the worst you could even imagine! You're not the only one with problems I just turned 25 today and 19-23 were the worst times I ever had to endure. If you need someone to talk to, im on AIM too, but don't talk about killing yourself.


Enjoy yr stay bro, where you visiting? And here onbusiness? You mean you have a "real" job besides making music!? ;) If only life were that easy, ay?


P.S. I too caught quite a giggle at "beef pockets"....I will never, however, think of a hot pocket the same way ever again. Just don't fuck em while they are tooo hot, let em cool down a bit first......sorry guys....heheh.


I thought everyone knew about my job! :confused: I'm a demolition engineer, you remember Timothy McVeigh the Oklahoma City Bombing in the United States? He had my job, I have the know how of blowing up large buildings, I'm just not psychotic ;) My job is traveling world wide to demolish old buildings, mainly military, I work for the EU and UN and travel to military bases worldwide and other job sites and demolish buildings and caches of old weapons, so far I haven't been sent anywhere too dangerous.

I've been all over, the USA is my biggest client, and also pay the best ;) probably your tax dollars go to me since the GOVT there or any other GOVT pays me : I haven't been to Israel yet but I want to, there's things to be done there but it's too dangerous at the time. I have been to Afghanistan but the place was very safe at the time and I was at a very remote location. I'm currently in the largest military base in the USA doing a huge job site, demolishing old "dud" missiles, bombs, caches, and an old building used as a barrack in WWII so they can rebuilt upon it.

Being opiated and dealing with handling lots of explosives and demolition equipment and detonation cord and ignition systems is really stupid and dangerous, yet I'm still alive. :)



Inspektahdek where are you in the states?


I'm currently in Texas, but I've been to bases in NY, Georgia, Florida, all over. I also have family in the US so I frequent the US more than other countries.

[Black_Pony]

Thats one way to go. The guy is obviously a coward and needs the fear of god put in him, but I think it would make more sense at 19/20 yrs old (its one of those right?) to just move out of HIS house.

Problem solved, ya know?

I wish you could rearrange his face, but that'll have to wait for his next trip through the EU.

This is one crazy arse thread.....Baby girl,if you can get the same reactions outta people in the real world your goin places......

In my mind the easiest thing that will give you immediate relief is; find one of your bad motherfucking friends who are street bad and just get them to have a little word wiv Daddy.Like "touch Ashlee one more time arsehole and youll be lucky if ya can swallow hospital food" Or whatever it takes for this wanker to keep his fuckin abusive hands off you....

I'm a 44yr old father ok...And beatin your 100lb daughter is sick...So this cunt needs "help".And i know 10 minutes wiv me he would see the errors of his parentin...
If he stayed out of your face would things get cool at home?

[ashx0xlee]

[quote=Inspektahdek;244942]click click click............ no head shot girl, not worth it, ive been through the worst you could even imagine! You're not the only one with problems I just turned 25 today and 19-23 were the worst times I ever had to endure. If you need someone to talk to, im on AIM too, but don't talk about killing yourself.

He's the whole boom head shot bit : ]




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[ashx0xlee]

This is what has come of my free time.

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[Raz]

[quote=Inspektahdek;





I thought everyone knew about my job! :confused: I'm a demolition engineer, you remember Timothy McVeigh the Oklahoma City Bombing in the United States? He had my job, I have the know how of blowing up large buildings, I'm just not psychotic ;) My job is traveling world wide to demolish old buildings, mainly military, I work for the EU and UN and travel to military bases worldwide and other job sites and demolish buildings and caches of old weapons, so far I haven't been sent anywhere too dangerous.

I've been all over, the USA is my biggest client, and also pay the best ;) probably your tax dollars go to me since the GOVT there or any other GOVT pays me : I haven't been to Israel yet but I want to, there's things to be done there but it's too dangerous at the time. I have been to Afghanistan but the place was very safe at the time and I was at a very remote location. I'm currently in the largest military base in the USA doing a huge job site, demolishing old "dud" missiles, bombs, caches, and an old building used as a barrack in WWII so they can rebuilt upon it.

Being opiated and dealing with handling lots of explosives and demolition equipment and detonation cord and ignition systems is really stupid and dangerous, yet I'm still al


MY POST STARTS here, my comp skills are non existent....

Nice work if ya can get it...Gotta be every young mans dream,travel the world, sample drugs in said world and gettin paid for blowin stuff up...I might even join the real world and get re trained...

But then again my past might, just might prevent me...Oh well, a man can dream....

Ashlee, so wats happenin girl.Ya got a lotta peeps tryin to help you,giv us an update...Sorry to say this, but your dad looks like he needs to sort his own "issues" out b4 he starts pickin on you...My proir post still stands, as he seems like one of those guys who cant hear, so they have to feel, ya dig...

[ashx0xlee]

Well being they have control of my funds i can't jump into d's idea all of just yet, but i got in touch with a girl out in PA who just got an apartment, its all just a matter of getting there. But i've been thinking if i can just get two jobs and work two weeks, and full weeks at off the books jobs i could get the cash i need to possibly get a place of my own. I just need to find a place to be while i have those jobs. But it just popped into my head that i'm going to be withouth heath insurance and a while back i cracked my sternum, tore three ligements and popped my top three ribs off. Didn't cry though, guess i was in shock. Point being i break easily and i just hope that i can go without an injury or make my way to canada.

[Raz]

Gettin a girl roomate is probably the best way to go, shared bills, rent and maybe you'll find a good friend....
Try and get your parents to let you go back to work, if you have a job to go to, if not, get them to at least let you find a job and work....
Your dad charges you rent right?So he must want you to have an income..And then save like crazy,every cent you can.......Get their stress levels down, get your freedom back.And when you have enuff wonga, make out on your own.

Nice and cool, calm and collected.......Get a place wiv a friend if you can.You surely have friends similar ages who want to break free also? And then you can make the break with some kind of dignity and still have contact wiv your parents....

Every kid leaves home at some point in their lives.So maybe its time for you? I left home at 13, but i am not normal!....

[ashx0xlee]

Yeah thats going to be my best bet, but females and i unless they are older than my by a decent amount don't really get along, but males might get a little curious after a few nights. I just need to get together money and thats it..Once i can do that i'm sure things will start falling into place.

[Raz]

Yep you got it girl...I tell my kid "Its a sad fact of life that wivout money you have no freedom or choices" So you gotta make money..to have more choices and the freedom to choose.Money to travel, money to eat, pay the bills etc etc...Well you get it.....

I get what your sayin about young females and you not gettin along...

But this can be an excitin time in your life,once you got funds , job etc.You can make your life everything you want it to be...You have no habit now...You can have real freedom.Who says you have to live with a female, if you want you can get a place and live with who the fuck you want, prefrebly wiv someone sane.Or a whole bunch of people....

The world can be your oyster...A lot of young Europeon girls get jobs doin travel reps and see the world..Its hard work, but you see the world and meet loads of people..The basic rule for gettin those jobs is, survivin on minimum sleep.If you can cope with that, your good to go.....

So start layin your foundations now.Get that job and get lookin at your options...And get a passport if you dont have one...Travel really does open your mind and there are jobs out there...Do you speak any languages?

This could be the start of something really good for you..A young lady of 20yrs has loads of options available.It doesnt have to be doom and gloom.Dont put yourself in any vunerable situations, you seem smart enuff to be able to recognise them....Just #1, get that job and get saving, money = your independance....

Hope this helps a little.I've got a girl of 14 who i love more than life...So stay safe and get savin asap..best wishes...Raz
Ps if your artwork is freehand then you should have no trouble gettin work..Get a portfolio together of your artwork and start lookin for a start in that industry...

[ashx0xlee]

Thanks Raz.. I'm going to keep you around in my life if you don't mind. You've been a big help, so thanks again

And to everyone else who hasn't trashed me, i will do my best to keep everyone posted once i leave.

Have a goodnight everyone :rolleyes:

[Raz]

^^^^Thats cool wiv me...I'm no saint, but we were all kids once(your still growin in my eyes).And if i can help no worries....get a good nights sleep baby girl.And its good to wake up wivout the monkey on your back ay!
Take care, dont panic and keep the stress levels down and it will all work out if YOU want it to....Raz

[Inspektahdek]

The number one problem with this world is miscommunication and miss ashlee is currently is having some problems and has come here to either vent or ask for advice or help. If you're giving her shit, you need to stop and we need to find the root of the problem and how we can help our fellow opiophile, you.

Again nice to meet you ashley, if u need to vent to someone or are looking for alternative help there is a plethora of people on here willing to help including myself. My email and AIM are always available and I hope you find the help or action you need soon.

[Inspektahdek]

[quote=Inspektahdek;244942]click click click............ no head shot girl, not worth it, ive been through the worst you could even imagine! You're not the only one with problems I just turned 25 today and 19-23 were the worst times I ever had to endure. If you need someone to talk to, im on AIM too, but don't talk about killing yourself.

He's the whole boom head shot bit : ]




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/pukexfairie/tattoo/709936530_l.jpg





By head shot I thought you meant you were going to blow your head off, but nice anyhow! I see a demon lurks down there, I hope it's not too ferocious ;) lol
That tat would scare me if something was going on, I guess that's what lights are for, funny tat anyhow, and could be intimidating to some

[nova67]

Haven't checked in on the thread lately...having a bad day pain wise....WOW things got crazy but here is my two cents.

BB... I can really feel this girl and where she is coming from...My own parents had a policy where if I wanted ANYTHING even the clothes on my back I would have to earn it myself. Ashley made a comment about washing dishes...is this a common thread amoung asshole, nazi MF father figures as punishment, my own evil step dad would make me wash dishes too, if he found ONE little water spot, I would get beat and the cupboards ALL of them would be stripped for me to do them again. What part about being beaten down verbally is love to you? Yes he can beat her physically, but those wounds will heal with time, but to hear someone you love chew you down every waking moment of your life leaves scars, case in point when I met and subsequently married my husband,then was diagnosed with my back problem, I would often promise to clean the house, then after a long and miserable day for me, he would come home to find it not done...TO THIS DAY...i assume he will beat me or begin a screaming session even though I KNOW he would never do that to me....I expect the punishment even though this is irrational and would never happen to me from my husband. It IS abuse...and should not be brushed off. Yeah so her myspace is all about her friends and things she does...what is the point? I know I often would use the internet to channel my own dreams of what I WANTED my life to be like and celebrate the things in my life I was able to do, when I could do them. This is not the first time you have flown off the handle and gotten all twisted out of shape BB...in fact I remember a post where you asked a question, and another person was adding to that question and you jumped on him like he was carrying plauge into your house...please try to see were she is coming from...that is all I have to say to you, your mean and hateful comments do not deserve any more attention.
Ashley when reading your post on insight into your mind...it was like looking into my own, and my past. I too remember every slight towards me and every mistake I ever made...often times when the mere question of why I think I have had such a hard life, I go all the way back in my mind to the day I was in kindergarden and was pushed off the merry-go-round, by mean and unfeeling children. And BB..I know you are gonna come back back at me for that statement with somthing like "oh there she goes whining about how hard her life is" MY life WAS hard, the last thing my step dad did to me before my mom finally moved out and I made my break was beat me so bad that he put a hole in my lung, and I traveled on a greyhound bus all the way across the country coughing up blood. But it was worth it....and Ashley has probably run through her head already every single scenario of how to get out of the house, and thier possible outcomes...Every time in my life I have trouble I know that is what I do...I know Ashley you are probably thinking that without a sense of humor, irony, and a dash of sarcasm that you would be able to make it through the day. You are right, they can save you when life looks its bleakest...hang in there, you are going to have to change your life soon enough, no matter what choice you make...there are alot of folks here that are rooting for you to succeed...all the best to you no matter what choice you make.

[NV12]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/pukexfairie/tattoo/709936530_l.jpg[/IMG]


Just some unwanted advice? I'm not sure the reason for posting that, but I imagine the couch offers from the males will increase tenfold by posting that. You seem as if you want to get out on your own the "right" way, but that kind of stuff is just crying out attention.

I really really hope you find your way safely.

[upstate_007]

Looks like this monster grew about 7 pages last night. Holy shit.

I got a few points to make for whatever its worth.

1. Ash...... I am sorry I came off as kinda harsh yesterday with the jokes and whatnot. I was cranky, I felt like being an asshole (which I do well at) and was a little sick myself. I think I can see what is going on with you now through the eyes of my own life at your age. I had a father that was a controlling, self-righteous prick most of the time and I hated him for it. My drug use and rebellious nature clashed horribly with his personality and it was a constant struggle. You have the added benefit of a father like that who also steals your drugs. Lots of fun eh?

It seems to me that you are just really conflicted and want something to change. Something, anything. At the same time it seems that you are a little reluctant to actually make the leap. Believe me, I know that feeling. It fucking sucks. And you should be worried about making a drastic change. You know that things can go from bad to worse in a matter of minutes. We don't need to tell you that. But, things can also get a lot better. I left home at 17 with a few dollars, a pillow, some clothes and a car to sleep in. I made it work for a while until my dope habit got the better of me and things came crashing down. If I had done things a little differently it could have worked out. I found a job in Brooklyn at a bicycle shop, moved in with a girl I met, and was doing great for a while. I was still doing dope, but I was in some semblance of control.

I think you DO need to get away from your father. Seriously. But, take a little bit of time to come up with some sort of plan. Start scouting out jobs wherever you want to live. Want to live in NYC? You can make it work. Like I said, I showed up with nothing and made it work for a long time. It aint easy though and you have to really fucking want it. No half-steppin. If you want to give it a try, take D up on his offer to help you get set up. The dude is just looking out for ya. He aint offering a free ride or anything, just the ability to get you a room on the cheap and a direction to point you in. That's better than most people get when they move to the city.

Where in Jersey are you? Not sure if you mentioned that or not. If you need help finding a job in the meantime I could try to help you out a bit if you are in certain areas of the state. I am sort of guessing that you are in northern Jersey which aint my specialty. Just a thought though.

Oh yeah, one more thing..... your stomach tattoo is some hot shit. I love it.

2. BB...... Chill the fuck out man. You want to help this girl out? Cool, help out. You don't want to help out? That's cool too, just piss off and let other people help out.



I have no way of knowing if this girl is for real or not or sort of or whatever. But, when someone is needing help I try to give them the benefit of the doubt while watching my own ass. When a young lady needs help it always tugs at the ol heart strings a bit too. Would I let her stay in my house? No way. I don't think the wife would like that much anyway. Would I try to help her get on her feet and make it on her own? Absolutely.

I have been burned too many times by helping out guys and gals in need to want to do it again. There are some exceptions out there that I would help at the drop of a hat even if it meant I might get burned. Some of those exceptions are people on this site even. But, I have learned to look out for numero uno as well.

[Raz]

^^^^^ The above post is what makes opi worthwhile for me...nice upstate...

[upstate_007]

^^^^^ The above post is what makes opi worthwhile for me...nice upstate...

Thanks brother. That means a lot to me.

[Raz]

If i was in the system i would figure out how to do this points thingy...But i've never been one for the system...

But my comments stand...Thoughts like yours is what i stayed for.When opi guys dont do that anymore,i'm gone...

[Papa Verine]

If i was in the system i would figure out how to do this points thingy...But i've never been one for the system...

But my comments stand...Thoughts like yours is what i stayed for.When opi guys dont do that anymore,i'm gone...

OK Raz, if you want to give somebody rep points just click on the little scale at the lower left of their post. You can then add a comment and hit enter. To check who has given you points and the comments they made just click on "user options" at the top of the page and scroll down. You'll see all the points you recieved and by who.

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

First off,

I have to say, for junkies, you are some gullible mother fuckers.

This girl is asking for attention, a couch(probably to try and get a real habit going), and money.

There is not a motherfucking thing wrong with her life except for the fact that she's lazy as fuck, and possibly has some sort of complex where she shows out to make sure she's getting all the attention.

I could give a fuck less what any of you think of me, for real.

I wanted to help at first, if you've taken any time to read my posts you'd realize that.

THEN I FOUND OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON BY READING THROUGH HER MYSPACE AND OTHER
POSTS.

I CAN'T FUCKING BELIEVE HOW DUMB A LOT OF YOU ARE.

But hey, to each his own and I'm done with it, if you can get hustled that easy on the net, I'm sure you're jelly on the street.

I'm 27 years old, I'm not a baby, I've seen this kind of shit 50+ times throughout high school, however, those people had some REAL issues.

This girl is making you look dumb as hell, while playing video games, and probably laughing her ass off at those of you who have really tried to help.

She's not an opiophile - she's a lost little girl who needs a swift kick in the ass to get going as an adult.

If she IS AN OPIOPHILE, I'm not, and can't relate to this retarded bullshit on any level, see my life was filled with ACTUAL problems, I dealt with them and am now in my OWN house with my girlfriend of 3 years.

I could write a fucking page of quotes this girl has lied about(or forgotten what she wrote a few minutes before hand), or made up, or conflicted with what little proof there is of any of these claims being true.

Ashlee, WELL DONE, you made a bunch of junkies who can probably hustle your own father into giving them $50 bucks, kneel down and suck on your toe.

I guess I can't really relate to most of you GUYS trying to make her feel warm and fuzzy because as far as ASS goes, I'm really not looking for any. I guess the sexual desperation just doesn't get in my way.

Ay Ashlee, you said your dad broke your ribs, then you said YOU broke your ribs, and you didn't cry.

NOW THEN, that is one of the most main motherfucking lies that you've told, I called bullshit the moment you started acting like you were abused when it was convenient, maybe mental, but you fucking know your Dad hasn't done shit to you except expect SOMETHING from your lazy ass.

Now then, if this were the actual problem, which it isn't, WHY WOULD YOU SAY - "He's my daddy and I will always go back to him" - In another format, you subliminally fuck yourself.

You have the boys blinded by your light, which I don't see how, but it won't work in the real world.

Back to my original point, YOU WILL FIND OUT JUST HOW HARSH THE REAL WORLD IS SOON - Nobody is going to pay your world of warcraft fees, buy you TVs and Laptops, and let you sit around playing games all day. You're in for a reeeeal surprise and I can't wait to see how your attitude changes.

That being said, THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING

And thank you Ashe for giving me something to rant about, this is one of the dumbest threads I've ever seen on Opio, and it makes Ophiles look about the dumbest I've ever seen, so Kudos.

BB

[jdub]

How is anyone on here getting hustled? They are offering advice on the assumption that she is telling the truth.

At worst, some people here lost some minutes of their day. But if she is indeed telling the truth, that sacrifice was well worth it IMO.

Its not like anyone is offering up their house/ car keys/ stash.

[upstate_007]

First off,

I have to say, for junkies, you are some gullible mother fuckers.

This girl is asking for attention, a couch(probably to try and get a real habit going), and money.


I aint saying you are right or wrong or anything man. My point of view is always to take people at their word until proven otherwise. I would rather be wrong by trying to be helpful than to not do anything at all and let some bad shit happen to her that could be somewhat prevented.

We aint all a bunch of gullible motherfuckers here man. Some of us are just trying to help out a little. Even if it means we were being conned or lied to or whatever else. I would rather be burned for doing the right thing than to have someone else get burned because I didn't give a shit.

And it is not all about sex. I have seen the same kind of support for males on this site too that might have needed a helping hand. Besides, half of us on here are all doped up to the point of being asexual anyway.

You made your point man. Give us some credit too. Just because we put out a helping hand does not mean we don't know when to pull it back.

[upstate_007]

How is anyone on here getting hustled? They are offering advice on the assumption that she is telling the truth.

At worst, some people here lost some minutes of their day. But if she is indeed telling the truth, that sacrifice was well worth it IMO.

Its not like anyone is offering up their house/ car keys/ stash.

Word. You said it better and quicker than I did man.

[NV12]

How is anyone on here getting hustled? They are offering advice on the assumption that she is telling the truth.

At worst, some people here lost some minutes of their day. But if she is indeed telling the truth, that sacrifice was well worth it IMO.

Its not like anyone is offering up their house/ car keys/ stash.

I think there is quite a bit of confusion about this thread (IMO)... she has been a bit contradictory... example: saying she would not use her body to get anything, yet she posted the picture of her tattoo. Not a tattoo on her arm or ankle, but above her crotch/belly area- obviously she knew she would get a rise out of some of these males. Women use their sexuality as power. FYI- in case any of our unfortunate male opiophiles haven't figured this out by now.

And to JDub- I have seen a few posts offering her a place to stay... ??? Have you read the whole thread...??
Examples (I'm not bashing the people that posted these, just giving examples...):

Do you play an instrument?

Anyway, I might have an idea or three for you, I have been living in NYC on the cheap for my whole life. I think it is time for you to get out of Jersey and into the wide wide world... namely New York City.

Email me if you like.

D

I can play them, just not well, and if perhaps i had a way to get in touch with you i would, but if you have aim or want to email me, to share these ideas, i'll sit around waiting for your response. e-mail = XXXX and aim = octopussxfo0t

Perhaps you could show me around this giant city and buy me ice cream like a gentlemen : ]

if u wanna come to hilton head where its always warm, me and my rommate got an extra bed.

I don't totally agree that this girl should be flamed beyond total belief, but I'm just saying, the Opiophiles on this board are giving (for the most part) and situations like this tend to happen over and over again and people have been burned. It's hard to keep our emotions out of a situation like this, but drugs make a person lie, cheat, and steal. Just be wary is all I'm saying.

One more thing- truthfully, if one of the male members had done this, I think this thread would have turned into a total BS calling flame war, similiar to floating. I'd love to see someone disagree with that.

Overall I'm a bit surprised that with the resources and friends it seems this girl has, that her turning to an internet board speaking of physical abuse and entrapment, is a bit extreme.

And to Ashlee- may I offer a suggestion? I would make your photobucket acct private- anyone can click on the link and see all your pictures

[jdub]

^^ I read the thread. It looks like How Long was offering to point her in the direction of cheap rent in the big apple.

[strikks]

chris hanson is coming!!! watch out!!! j/k anyway hey thanx for helping out or trying to that is super cool we should have more of that in the world!! unfortunatly i have to admit,i have been jaded and this girl reminds me of someone that BB is describing attention getting,wanting,needing......i would prob bet she has no monkey and if she saves empty bags for the stamp???WTF???? write the names down or SOMETHING ELSE but yeah this reminds me of a girl, who was lazy as fuk, did dope on the weekends with her allowance that her daddy is mad that mom gave her CUZ SHE DID NOT DO HER CHORES!!!!!! anyway sorry my opioinion.
anywhooo thanx for trying to help her,and if your "putty in her hands"so what that is your buisness i dont agree with BB that all of you are gullible, but c'mon.......i don't really think she even has a monkey,and if she does........it is only on weekends!!!

luv ya all

peace,
strikks



ps go vote at the milligrammies!!!!

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

Holy shit dude,

I don't know how to say this:

Thank you so much.

Just as I was about to give up on this forum, you came in with the kicker.

I tried repping you, but for real, honestly, you took time to see what was going on instead of just try to flame me for some virtual ass. I had no idea that was coming and honestly was beginning to think that aside from all the smart shit most of these people have to say, 99% were dumb as fuck and wouldn't last a second in my world.

I believe you put it in wording I couldn't, and hopefully opened some eyes.

However, it could be that she is BEING hustled, which another thing I was trying to save her from, but after the "fuck you bitch motherfucker" comments - I didn't really care.

Basically, you get what you put out, so if she's trying to hustle these people, she will end up on the hustled end, and that shit will be horrible.

Either way, lots of respect for that, while we might not be alike, we both saw right through this bullshit.

Pictures.

HAHAHA

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

^My above post was directed to NV12

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v493/pukexfairie/ - main with other folders

THERE IS 6 PAGES OF IMAGES HERE - WITH OTHER FOLDERS

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v493/pukexfairie/tattoo/

These really seem like images of a torn soul.

More like a little girl, lost in so many ways, and needing to be away from this forum.

You need help Ashley, but none of these people can give you what you need.

Therapy.

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

This is her drawing:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v493/pukexfairie/Doodles/ - Nice work Ash

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/pukexfairie/Me/hair001_resize.jpg

WORLD OF WARCRAFT CLOTHING - ONLY FOR THE SUPERDEPRESSED


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/pukexfairie/lovecl7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/pukexfairie/BDO.jpg

By the way, MEN

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/pukexfairie/joy.bmp

Make sure to check her lip before you get "close".

Mouth Herpes for the loss.

I'm sorry Ashley, lying is the worst thing you could possibly do in a random forum.

[strikks]

Wow..I'm sorry everyone i did not intend this drama

and uh maybe i should through this out there, no one outside myself is getting in my pants.....even though my sex drive is back and better than ever now that i'm clean



c'mon people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



hahahahahhaha herpes i love it!!

[NV12]

^My above post was directed to NV12

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v493/pukexfairie/ - main with other folders

THERE IS 6 PAGES OF IMAGES HERE - WITH OTHER FOLDERS

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v493/pukexfairie/tattoo/

These really seem like images of a torn soul.

More like a little girl, lost in so many ways, and needing to be away from this forum.

You need help Ashley, but none of these people can give you what you need.

Therapy.

You might want to take those links down- I didn't intend to call attention to them as much as letting Ashlee know. I don't think mods are crazy about posting someone's personal stuff (even if they did themselves). Not busting you- just looking out for you.

But anyway- you're welcome. I'm not really in the middle of it, but I was just trying to point out the other side- I can't judge someone if I don't have the entire story (except for GOR, and she proved herself) but I can try to see both sides. I think you've made your point well enough but I think we can all agree on one thing- this young lady needs some help.

And I'm a chica by the way- (formerly known as WideOpenSky) :)

That is all.

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

Now then,

As for my ranting, I really am sorry to those of who who actually believed you were helping someone in need. I didn't want to ruin my stay at this forum, but the way I saw it, if this type of shit was going to go down with no repercussions, I wasn't with it anyway.

So, I apologize to everyone but Ashley and those who were trying to abuse this lost soul.

Read my first few posts in this thread, you need to listen Ashley.

I didn't need to keep going and I admit I did go overboard, but I had no doubt, and until now, was real angry that nobody could see through the bullshit.

Now then, I reiterate my first statement.

If you were my daughter, I'd give you a swift kick in the ass in the way of adulthood as well.

The last thing you need is a habit, you need a job and a new way of life aside from gaming all day/night and asking for moral support on forums/myspace.

Seriously, get help, but not from random forums, get serious help, as I said, I know your parents care, and I know that you can do better than this.

GO, NOW, DON'T WASTE ANOTHER SECOND WITH YOUR LIES.

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

You might want to take those links down- I didn't intend to call attention to them as much as letting Ashlee know. I don't think mods are crazy about posting someone's personal stuff (even if they did themselves). Not busting you- just looking out for you.

But anyway- you're welcome. I'm not really in the middle of it, but I was just trying to point out the other side- I can't judge someone if I don't have the entire story (except for GOR, and she proved herself) but I can try to see both sides. I think you've made your point well enough but I think we can all agree on one thing- this young lady needs some help.

And I'm a chica by the way- (formerly known as WideOpenSky) :)

That is all.

She posted the link in the first place right?

Aside from that it's in your quote anyway!

I was just giving her a hand in letting her light shine.

BY THE WAY:

Ash I see you have compassion for your ex's - How many lives have YOU ruined?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/pukexfairie/the-break-up.png

BB

[TOOL]

I don't know it could be because I don't have a lot of trust in Strangers but I have to agree this seems to have a lot of fiction to the story... I was strung out at 15 .. running dope and I can tell you now... If I was her the last thing I would be doing right now is talking on the internet... from personal experience ... if life was as bad as she has explained I would be on my way to score... to numb the pain.. no one is locked down with no escape being a dope feind you should know well the lengths you go to when things are bad .... just to get right.... if this is true I am sorry .... but this seems way out there

[limitless_euphoria]

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I'm keeping this short because i kind mixed a bunch of shit i shouldn't earlier in the night in an attempt to make everything go away... [bad idea]

About two months ago my father came across close to 50 torn up baggies along with three needles and a few snippy comments from the boyfriend. I spent the next five days detoxing cold turkey after having a habit of shooting well over five times a day. Three days ago the man came across some klonopins and a cotton ball and once again i am under house arrest with nothing. You would think i would learn my lesson but oh ho ho, we all know how that goes. I just need some advice on how to pass the time and handle the shakes and ya know maybe get adopted by one of you fine folks for a few days :D

You know this is a real valid topic. I mean, once you go clean.... life is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo boring it's enough to make me start banging my head against the wall. I mean, the licidity of not being doped out is nice but I guesss I'm a very selfish person and that was why being a junky was the perfect fit. Now that I've kicked for even just a week I'm climibing the walls.

I feel for you girl. My problem personally is while I don't have a lot of friends IRL who use opiates ALMOST ALL of my friends either drink to get drunk often or smoke a lot of pot and I really don't need to be doing either (but don't get me wrong, without my dope I want to do both and then some).

Let me ask you this: what kinds of things did you USED to do BEFORE you got high/stoned/zoned or whatever you want to call it? Do you like art? Are you a good student? Do you like to write? Do you have friends who DO NOT party that you can spend more time with? Just throwing out ideas here. I'm very much in your boat. I want my strong opiates back but I want my kids and wife more so I'm basically clean because the only other alternative is lose everything that matters to me.

I hope that helps.... even just to know you aren't the only one climbing the walls listening to the clock go "tick, tock, tick, tock" and feel like I'm slowly growing mad.

[strikks]

my ex girl has a photobucket account and she always sends me emails to be a part of it and i say no way tothat and my space cuase it is all out there for anyone to see!!!! as long as i got your first and last name i will find your my space,photobucket and what not. it is not supposed to be private anyway. BB will be fine and i think he called this one for real!!!

she reminds me of a girl i know......hits on guys until they share all there dope with her then,just as they think they are gonna get some,she says ...."oh are you outta dope.....i gotta go.....unless you got more money......"



peace

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

my father thinks i am back on dope and i'm going to have my dealer come through the windows so thats why they are sealed. The abuse is more verbal than physical, and comes depending on what he's on. When he's drunk or coked up he is not to be messed with, the problem is i too have a mouth, if you haven't noticed, and thats usually why things tend to escalate the way they do. As far as going for hn't want the sole provider for my family and i don't want to put us out on the street. I'd rather remove myself. and yeah the money thing..sarcasm..i'm broke as fuck. My parents made me quit my job when they found out about the heroin and took my debit card withdrew the cash and closed the account. Now i'm not going to steal i would rather do without or figure out some other way.You said he broke your ribs, then you said YOU broke your ribs "and didn't even cry". A lie is a lie, and I'd say that's a pretty fucking big one right there, so where do you draw the reality line?

I think EVERYONE notices you have a mouth now, maybe before you get your tongue pierced you should make sure the kid has at least heard of Alcohol.

Some other way - what like begging on opiophile? Asking for a couch, then going over and using whatever anyone has up and taking off? I noticed you left some kid and slept with "Razr", and then rubbed his face in it, what comes around goes around Ash, and what will happen is you won't get any dope at all, you'll just be worked to the gutter, and if you do get the dope you "worked" for, it will probably be some 2% hellsmack.

You are playing on peoples emotions, and that just isn't right.

I hope you've learned your lesson.

Thanks for giving people something to do, but I think you've worn out your welcome unless you can find it in you to come clean with everyone. That would be the honorable thing to do here Ashley, the lies won't work, and maybe you will find that people really are compassionate, and you may possibly find someone who will let you "work" for your habit if that is the life you want to lead. According to your posts I truly believe that is what you're looking for here.

NV, strikks, TOOL all Repped

[Thebane]

BB,

So there's some slight contradictions in her story, and she plays video games, this somehow makes it so that she's never done opies and her father isn't abusive? I just don't understand what the fuck you're ranting about.

And I didn't offer her shit, so don't say I was just conned and can't admit it or some bullshit.

Obviously no one knows if her story is true, but if I could help someone out by just making a phone call and it could make a huge difference in their life I wouldn't not do it because there's a small chance they may just be saying shit to get attention. And you are clearly WAY out of line here, jumping down her throat with no proof whatsoever. You could have left it at "her story doesn't add up," instead you've posted what, 1/4 ? of your total post count at this forum bashing her mercilessly. Obviously she needs help one way or the other, not some internet thug to bitch at her.

PS: And yeah her story may be less reliable if I spent hours upon hours stalking her myspace, photobucket and other internet accounts. Fortunately, I, unlike you, have other shit to do.

[strikks]

thread jack!!!!! look!! why is this thread so popular??? ashlee dont even get home from school untill 3pm she is in math class now damn it!!!

[Ludakris]

You said he broke your ribs, then you said YOU broke your ribs "and didn't even cry". A lie is a lie, and I'd say that's a pretty fucking big one right there, so where do you draw the reality line?

I think EVERYONE notices you have a mouth now, maybe before you get your tongue pierced you should make sure the kid has at least heard of Alcohol.

Some other way - what like begging on opiophile? Asking for a couch, then going over and using whatever anyone has up and taking off? I noticed you left some kid and slept with "Razr", and then rubbed his face in it, what comes around goes around Ash, and what will happen is you won't get any dope at all, you'll just be worked to the gutter, and if you do get the dope you "worked" for, it will probably be some 2% hellsmack.

You are playing on peoples emotions, and that just isn't right.

I hope you've learned your lesson.

Thanks for giving people something to do, but I think you've worn out your welcome unless you can find it in you to come clean with everyone. That would be the honorable thing to do here Ashley, the lies won't work, and maybe you will find that people really are compassionate, and you may possibly find someone who will let you "work" for your habit if that is the life you want to lead. According to your posts I truly believe that is what you're looking for here.

NV, strikks, TOOL all Repped

Seriously BB...it seems like you are simply trying to gather facts from MySpace...so, who gives a flying fuck about MySpace? I don't know ANYONE who's MySpace profile is a 100% accurate representation of who they are and what they do...I understand you're trying to play Inspector Gadget but I believe everyone on this thread has made their standpoint. Either trying to help, or trying to convince everyone else not to help.

You don't want to help, that's fine...you are calling bullshit, that's fine...we get the fucking point, but we are all big boys and girls and are holding true to our stance on the issue. If she is BSing us, it will come out later, no doubt about that.

But I'm not going to feel like an idiot later because I tried to put some positive words her way. Nor do I think anyone else is. If someone were drowning, but you were pretty sure they could swim...would you just let them drown because you have something to prove?

I would rather extend a hand to help a person drowning, and find out that she really could swim than watch her drown and then say "well, she could swim, not my fault she didn't"

If all these great people offer a helping hand, then find out we got douped...then she tries it a second time and everyone falls for it, then fine, mock us then...it's not like I'm losing money or resources lending a sympathetic ear...and if it's a play on emotions, I'll live through it.

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

There you go,

Egg her on I'm sure that's what's best for everyone.

You can't get past thinking with your dick, and I know for a fact you didn't read through what I wrote in this thread.

So here's the deal, don't speak at me like I give a fuck, I gave my advice and tried to help at first, a bunch of literal dick heads jumped on me already, you're not special.

Ash,

There will always be a couple dumb fucks for you to play with, but I guarantee it won't be good for your life.

So I reiterate,

I hope you've learned your lesson, and it you haven't, you will if you keep it up.

BB

P.S. I didn't need to inspect anything, it's all put right fucking there by the horse itself, you're just blinded by your small head.

[jdub]

I like the red 60's. What color are the 15's? Grey/ green?

[ashx0xlee]

There was a misunderstanding between myself and Inspektahdek (http://forum.opiophile.org/member.php?u=1779), its just a joke

Just some unwanted advice? I'm not sure the reason for posting that, but I imagine the couch offers from the males will increase tenfold by posting that. You seem as if you want to get out on your own the "right" way, but that kind of stuff is just crying out attention.

I really really hope you find your way safely.

[Ludakris]

There you go,

Egg her on I'm sure that's what's best for everyone.

You can't get past thinking with your dick, and I know for a fact you didn't read through what I wrote in this thread.

So here's the deal, don't speak at me like I give a fuck, I gave my advice and tried to help at first, a bunch of literal dick heads jumped on me already, you're not special.

Ash,

There will always be a couple dumb fucks for you to play with, but I guarantee it won't be good for your life.

So I reiterate,

I hope you've learned your lesson, and it you haven't, you will if you keep it up.

BB

P.S. I didn't need to inspect anything, it's all put right fucking there by the horse itself, you're just blinded by your small head.


I'm thinking with my dick...yes, because I'm on the other coast from her and I firmly believe that if I defend her my dick will thank me for it...that's exactly it, way to go there champ, you've figured me out...

I'll admit you've made some points, but why must you continue to beat a dead horse? Everyone here knows your opinion, and it's been stated that most everyone really doesn't give a shit about it.

I find it amusing that you are under the impression that the guys are trying to lend an ear to her because we think will get our dick wet...I could see it if she was having a pitty party at the high school library and all these guys were competing to see who she was going to go stay with, but this is the internet, and whether her story is true or not, she definitely needs help of some kind.

Some people see themselves in this story, and I can see that these people are trying really hard to convince her to do something more with her life...and I KNOW a lot of people here have had the asshole,fuck up, dipshit father who pulled similar shit.

I've read enough of your posts here to know you've got tunnel vision, and you continually are telling this girl to stay with her shit head dad who steals her dope and imprisons her "for her own good". And this shit like "if I were your dad..." well, you're not. Get over it.

Why do you need to have the last word? Why do you insist on repeating the same line of bullshit when everyone's noted your opinion? You get all worked up because people are disagreeing with you and then you start with the name calling, puffing your little chest out and acting like mister tough guy who knows all...

No one here has asked you to change your opinion, they have just simply asked you to shut the fuck up for being an asshole...which I think you've gone above and beyond proving.

P.S. I am not blinded, I understand this girl's story could be total bullshit...but it doesn't affect my life one way or the other if it is. My little head has spoken...:jerkoff:

[jdub]

There you go,

Egg her on I'm sure that's what's best for everyone.

You can't get past thinking with your dick, and I know for a fact you didn't read through what I wrote in this thread.

So here's the deal, don't speak at me like I give a fuck, I gave my advice and tried to help at first, a bunch of literal dick heads jumped on me already, you're not special.

P.S. I didn't need to inspect anything, it's all put right fucking there by the horse itself, you're just blinded by your small head.


That is such bullshit. To assume that everyone who hasn't jumped on your bashing band-wagon is expecting to get laid is idiotic.

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

There was a misunderstanding between myself and Inspektahdek (http://forum.opiophile.org/member.php?u=1779), its just a joke

After all these people have been defending you, that's all you have to say? You don't want to come clean about anything? You don't want to explain anything at all?

You haven't debated anything I've said, and with our previous discussion I know it isn't because you're beyond that.

Look, I'm not trying to knock you down ok, I want you to understand this, I don't hate you.

What I am trying to get you to understand is the way you're going about all of this is wrong.

You know as well as I do that you don't have it as bad as you made these people believe, how much did that World of Warcraft shirt cost and if you had it so bad, would you buy such a thing? I know you didn't find it in a thrift store.

My point here is, you made these people think you're in some sort of life/death situation.

The way you've lied so much I don't think your dad steals dope, shit I don't even think you do enough dope to understand what a withdrawal is. THAT IS A GOOD THING - TRUST ME.

Dope isn't cool, and the situations you will be getting into soon if you take the path you're considering will be so far from cool you can't possibly comprehend.

Don't make the mistake of a lifetime, get the off the computer for a couple days and look for a job.

You can move out of your house in a month with people you actually know if you just put your head to it.

You can take these guys defense for you as credit to your gutter ambition, or you can see that it IS possible to manipulate the world to your benefit, and use that in a real situation.

Believe me, this isn't the place to do it.

[nova67]

Look BB you are not getting the point...it DON'T matter wether she is putting on a dog and pony show or not! Whats so wrong with trying to be helpfull and nice? It is much better than calling names...and dragging her through the mud, even if she is bullshitting us. If ya saw bull shit...call it ONCE...and leave it at that. I would rather make an ass of myself trying to help another human being out than berate, call names, insinuate someones only worth, and most of all being nasty to not only her...but the others on the thread. I mean really BB...if she is a bullshit artist, then why are you giving her thread any more of your time...you seem like a reasonable *sometimes*, and intelligent adult, WHY has this got you so riled up? Please hear me out here...I am not trying to get down on you, I said all I was gonna say on a personal standpoint myself in my last post...im doing this for the benefit of the thread. You need to calm down and think intelligently about why you are tearing her down and trying to get us to do so as well. Again I want to stress...it DOESNT matter if she is frontin or not, being a helpfull and decent person is more important, than searching out every flaw and bad personality trait. I really like reading what you have had on other posts...but you often do this flying off the handle routine. This is only a forum and will not effect your life personally...so why are you taking it so personally. Please calm down and rationalize your thoughts that go into this thread....for yours and all our sakes. peace
oh yeah...im a chick...I have defended her and tried to help her out...but OOPS! wheres that dick im supposed to be thinking with?

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

That is such bullshit. To assume that everyone who hasn't jumped on your bashing band-wagon is expecting to get laid is idiotic.

I didn't assume that at all, I generalized it because there are more than a few people keeping this thread going that want to see this little girl on all fours.

You don't have to agree with me, it really doesn't matter if they admit to it or not, I'm a man too.

It's not like IT WILL HAPPEN, in fact, I don't think she will be going anywhere at all.

This is just a preoccupation for when she gets a bit bored of WOW or whatever game shes on, she will drop in and check the thread to see who's saying what.

Ashley, debate my posts and if you can make sense of it, the way you played that kid for "Razr", or the other fucked up shit you have going on, I'll leave you to manipulate these people.

Tell me, you did draw that, what did it mean? And did you send that little picture to your ex boyfriend?

I'm just wondering, because if you are that scandalous I believe you may be able to make it by manipulation alone. Trust me it takes a black heart, and if that is so, you have one.

[ashx0xlee]

I don't think some cartoon on my stomach is going to kncok on any desk and if it did oh fucking well, it is something that i am very fond of and i made a joke about it with someone else. I'm not going to trying and con anyone into letting me stay with them by leading them out because i'm sorry i wouldn't be able to bring myself to put out in the whole one night stand sense, even if i was piss drunk. Now as far as going about this whole situation, i've given up my fucking drug habit because it is going to be impossible at first to get anywhere if i am laying around all doped up. I never asked anyone for money, or drugs, i joked about sleeping on someone's couch, and made a few other jokes with some others who have posted here which i bet if they were in any other thread would be thought of nothing else but because i'm looking for advice i must be throwing myself all over someone to pay attention to me for five fucking minutes. I'm not some little manipulating bitch who is pissed off because her father is making her do something she doesn't want. I came here looking for advice from people who have prolly been through a situation similar have most likely been through a situation similar, but apparently that isn't all.. i have nothing better to do, i'm sorry but if i was going to waste my time i would play a fucking video game or paint, but apparently that makes me a liar too, because a few months ago before i got caught my father wasn't acting like this. Six months ago isn't now and i don't know why BB must insist that just because i was happy that i couldn't have had any trouble in my life. I'm sorry but this has just gotten out of hand and i regret even making this thread outside with becoming acquainted with a few good people. So, i'm sorry if you all feel as if i have wasted your time and lied to you, if thats what you think, then just go hang out in another thread and bullshit there

I think there is quite a bit of confusion about this thread (IMO)... she has been a bit contradictory... example: saying she would not use her body to get anything, yet she posted the picture of her tattoo. Not a tattoo on her arm or ankle, but above her crotch/belly area- obviously she knew she would get a rise out of some of these males. Women use their sexuality as power. FYI- in case any of our unfortunate male opiophiles haven't figured this out by now.

And to JDub- I have seen a few posts offering her a place to stay... ??? Have you read the whole thread...??
Examples (I'm not bashing the people that posted these, just giving examples...):



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I don't totally agree that this girl should be flamed beyond total belief, but I'm just saying, the Opiophiles on this board are giving (for the most part) and situations like this tend to happen over and over again and people have been burned. It's hard to keep our emotions out of a situation like this, but drugs make a person lie, cheat, and steal. Just be wary is all I'm saying.

One more thing- truthfully, if one of the male members had done this, I think this thread would have turned into a total BS calling flame war, similiar to floating. I'd love to see someone disagree with that.

Overall I'm a bit surprised that with the resources and friends it seems this girl has, that her turning to an internet board speaking of physical abuse and entrapment, is a bit extreme.

[COLOR=red]And to Ashlee- may I offer a suggestion? I would make your photobucket acct private- anyone can click on the link and see all your pictures

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

Nova,

I've said this before, and while you're right in most cases, and it won't affect my life.

IT WILL AFFECT HER LIFE - I GUARANTEE THAT

The way you all keep her going is going to make her believe this kind of shit will work in life.

It's fucking horrible.

She said it herself, "I really have some decisions to make", and this was about MOVING TO NY WITH HOWLONG - or getting into a co-op room he was talking about.

DO you think this isn't affecting her life? Seriously?

I am so fucking angry because:

A) Her life could literally be ruined because of a stupid choice she makes here.

B) Nobody can see through this bullshit, aside from a few people.

C) You guys keep egging her on, yet you come here and tell me I need to "leave it at that", or whatever. Are you serious? TELL THE FUCKING GIRL THE RIGHT THING TO DO - GET HELP - DON'T LET HER THINK THAT THERE IS HOPE FOR HER ON OPIOPHILE - DO YOU WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SENDING HER TO HER DEATH OR THE DEATH OF LIFE AS SHE KNOWS IT, WHICH IS AS A YOUNG PERSON, PLAYING GAMES AND HAVING FUN(LIKE IT OR NOT YOU'VE BEEN LIED TO).

Ash, you want to go from playing games, having fun with boys(aka Razr and Anthony), and worrying about your family - to - sucking dick for your next warm bed, a real dope habit, and cold cold days and nights in some city where NOBODY GIVES A FUCK IF YOU LIVE OR DIE?

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

As we discussed in PM and otherwise:

If this was a dude - "he would have 3 new assholes by now."

You say you've made some new friends, Ash you're almost as dumb as these fools believing half your bullshit.

You're going to ruin your fucking life and you can best bet it would have been better to never make this thread in the first place.

Just like people with meds showing them off to everyone - you just showed off your 20 year old ass to a bunch of people sitting on the internet doing dope.

Do you REALLY think nobody is going to take you up on your offer?

Think it over Ash, you may be getting into some really really bad shit here.

[ashx0xlee]

BB, all those pictures are jokes to rub in my current boyfriends face because razr is his best friend and had a thing for me. The thing with my lip was from my braces back when i was 16. The answer to how many men i have had in my life is two

Now after this i am ll have to explain myself o everyone over my wardrobe and interests in life. But thank you for trying to make points out of all of that. And as for my ribs, i've broken them several times, and the one in which i didn't cry was when a friend went to toss me over his shoulder and i turned and he basically tackled me and made contact with my top three ribs from the right side.

You said he broke your ribs, then you said YOU broke your ribs "and didn't even cry". A lie is a lie, and I'd say that's a pretty fucking big one right there, so where do you draw the reality line?

I think EVERYONE notices you have a mouth now, maybe before you get your tongue pierced you should make sure the kid has at least heard of Alcohol.

Some other way - what like begging on opiophile? Asking for a couch, then going over and using whatever anyone has up and taking off? I noticed you left some kid and slept with "Razr", and then rubbed his face in it, what comes around goes around Ash, and what will happen is you won't get any dope at all, you'll just be worked to the gutter, and if you do get the dope you "worked" for, it will probably be some 2% hellsmack.

You are playing on peoples emotions, and that just isn't right.

I hope you've learned your lesson.

Thanks for giving people something to do, but I think you've worn out your welcome unless you can find it in you to come clean with everyone. That would be the honorable thing to do here Ashley, the lies won't work, and maybe you will find that people really are compassionate, and you may possibly find someone who will let you "work" for your habit if that is the life you want to lead. According to your posts I truly believe that is what you're looking for here.

NV, strikks, TOOL all Repped

[nick]

Wow,whole lot of projecting going on here.

1.IF she's telling the truth.......she needs help.

2.IF she's talking trash...........she needs MORE help.

I think one of the points BB is trying to make is,IF she's talking trash then the support we're offering might be doing more harm than good.However this is the internet,so who knows what's "true".

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

I'm thinking with my dick...yes, because I'm on the other coast from her and I firmly believe that if I defend her my dick will thank me for it...that's exactly it, way to go there champ, you've figured me out...

Typical bullshit, you've probably beat it to her photos already, thinking about how desperate she is.

I'll admit you've made some points, but why must you continue to beat a dead horse? Everyone here knows your opinion, and it's been stated that most everyone really doesn't give a shit about it.

Some do, those who see past the bullshit, however, they've been pming me because what's needed to be said has been.

I find it amusing that you are under the impression that the guys are trying to lend an ear to her because we think will get our dick wet...I could see it if she was having a pitty party at the high school library and all these guys were competing to see who she was going to go stay with, but this is the internet, and whether her story is true or not, she definitely needs help of some kind.

You admit she needs help, but you don't admit that it is wrong for her to leave home and ask for a fucking couch with some random people on the fucking internet? By looking through her posts and pictures you can't see that she doesn't have a habit like us? You're a fucking idiot if not.

Some people see themselves in this story, and I can see that these people are trying really hard to convince her to do something more with her life...and I KNOW a lot of people here have had the asshole,fuck up, dipshit father who pulled similar shit.

I'm one of the only people telling her to get the fuck out of here and get real, defending her here isn't telling her to do more, it's telling her she's doing the right thing RIGHT NOW.

I've read enough of your posts here to know you've got tunnel vision, and you continually are telling this girl to stay with her shit head dad who steals her dope and imprisons her "for her own good". And this shit like "if I were your dad..." well, you're not. Get over it.

You don't know what her dad is doing fool, taking her dope away would be the least of her worries if she were under my roof, you need a chin check or a bitch slap to wake you the fuck up.

Why do you need to have the last word? Why do you insist on repeating the same line of bullshit when everyone's noted your opinion? You get all worked up because people are disagreeing with you and then you start with the name calling, puffing your little chest out and acting like mister tough guy who knows all...

I'm so fucking tough dude, come on, I for one understand this is the internet, if she understood this I wouldn't be here in the first place, THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT HER LIFE.

No one here has asked you to change your opinion, they have just simply asked you to shut the fuck up for being an asshole...which I think you've gone above and beyond proving.

I almost didn't bother responding to you because I see you're on the same intelligence level as Ash, if it makes you feel better, have at it.

P.S. I am not blinded, I understand this girl's story could be total bullshit...but it doesn't affect my life one way or the other if it is. My little head has spoken...:jerkoff:

Of course, you don't give a fuck if she lives or dies, rapes or gets raped, you haven't even read through her shit, or looked deeper, you've just been going on the last few posts, and since they are flames on me you think you are going to join the "let's flame BB" gang. I personally couldn't give a fuck, so don't bother responding, next time I won't even glance at your bullshit.

[nova67]

Ok BB....i can see now that you are TRULY scared for her health and saftey...but do you have to do this in such an abrasive way? A simple..."hey ash, it looks like you are telling tales outta school, for your own saftey you need to rethink what you are doing"....would have sufficed. Please chill on the angry tone you are projecting...

And Ashley...Im giving you the benefit of the doubt...but if you ARE putting on a dog and pony show, going to NYC is not gonna solve your problems...you need to get off the comp for a bit, and rethink your priorities, and what you really want to put yourself through...I have lived in the cold hard world, and being alone without a soul to trust or love, or your basic needs not met is not a good place to be. But if you are NOT putting on a dog and pony show... my original posts still stands as my advice for you. Whatever your situation...I wish you the best in your life and that things will become better so you can find some peace and stability.
There BB...that is an example of handling the situation rationally and with a little tact...

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

Wow,whole lot of projecting going on here.

1.IF she's telling the truth.......she needs help.

2.IF she's talking trash...........she needs MORE help.

I think one of the points BB is trying to make is,IF she's talking trash then the support we're offering might be doing more harm than good.However this is the internet,so who knows what's "true".

You're right on both instances.

If you looked a little deeper, you'd see that she has a decent life, that can't be changed in 3-6 months or whatever she said her dad changed in.

One bad choice here to leave home and she's fucked in so many ways.

Ash, believe me - SO MANY WAYS.

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

Nova,

I tried that, it didn't get through.

In fact, I even got flamed for it.

When I arrived at this thread she was in the process of getting ready to go to NYC.

I will slow it down, I only hope I have had some impact on the whole fucked up ordeal.

That is all I can ask for.

I already apologized to everyone, there are quite a few I could give a fuck less what is thought of me.

What matters here is that this little girl doesn't ruin her fucking life.

BB

[Ludakris]

You're right BB, I don't know what's best for her, but neither do you...you can't seem to pick a side, first it was the bash Ashley show, then you try to act like you care, then you go bashing other people who really care...I don't need to be "woke the fuck up" ok, so why don't you settle your ass down a little, ok?

I don't know her real situation, neither do you, no one does...so why do you think you're suggestions are so much better than everyone else's??? What if her dad really is a crazy psycho junked up piece of shit? What if he does get too high and kills them both? Fuck, we don't know, YOU DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.

I'm just sick and fucking tired of this bullshit about you know everyone here and know what their intentions are and know what's best for everyone. Some people agree with you, some disagree, some are totally convinced of this girls situation, some are convinced otherwise...others are on the fence about it, in fact, a little part of me is waiting for her to just come out and admit she's fired everyone up for little to no reason...but I'm not going to call her a liar, I've had similar problems with my dad, and a lot of people don't believe me when I speak of the shit he's done, now granted I didn't start a thread about it and am throwing a pity party, I made it out of my situation alive, that's good enough for me.

You've made a lot of speculation based on things you think you know, and it seems as though you are calling it fact.

I don't doubt she's embellished some of her story, but I don't discount that some of it is real...I don't think you're a bad guy, but I think you've taken this way too far, and for the most part, you are acting like an asshole.

[nova67]

Hey BB...wana see my myspace page..most of the pics I have on there are from before I left home...I smiling in them...OH MY GOD!!!!!....I must not have been abused! :rolleyes: I got police reports to back me up though...you are being an ass...and you must obviously not understand the cycle of abuse..so here it is FYI
Domestic abuse falls into a common pattern, or cycle of violence:

http://www.helpguide.org/images/domestic_violence/im_cycle.gifAbuse — The abuser lashes out with aggressive or violent behavior. The abuse is a power play designed to show the victim "who is boss."
Guilt — After the abusive episode, the abuser feels guilt, but not over what he's done to the victim. The guilt is over the possibility of being caught and facing consequences.
Rationalization or excuses — The abuser rationalizes what he's done. He may come up with a string of excuses or blame the victim for his own abusive behavior—anything to shift responsibility from himself.
"Normal" behavior — The abuser does everything he can to regain control and keep the victim in the relationship. He may act as if nothing has happened, or he may turn on the charm. This peaceful honeymoon phase may give the victim hope that the abuser has really changed this time.
Fantasy and planning — The abuser begins to fantasize about abusing his victim again, spending a lot of time thinking about what she's done wrong and how he'll make her pay. Then he makes a plan for turning the fantasy of abuse into reality.
Set-up — The abuser sets up the victim and puts his plan in motion, creating a situation where he can justify abusing her. The Full Cycle of Domestic Violence


Now that you've been enlightened to what abuse is.....you can understand why she may have periods where life is normal...and she can have fun...and do things that make her happy.
Just because she doesn't live in hell 24/7...doesn't mean her dad is NOT abusing her....please get a better argument.

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

Look shithead, first off, pictures don't mean fucking shit, do you want to know how i paid for college? scholarships? oh and how the fuck did i get those? Working my fucking ass off all throughout school. I've been through shit with my father all my fucking life and i will always go back to him because he is my fucking dad, its basic fucking psychology, and yeah i'm 20 and making a quarter mill. Ha. before they made me quit my job i was a manager/bookkeeper at a supermarket pulling in about 300 to 400 a week. This lap top, my computer and most of the shit i own, i bought, if i left it up to them i would have some cheap fucking piece of shit. OH and that TV yeah, grandfather died, got it from his will, my apologies for having a relative with money. And my taste n music..i just don't even see the point in that other than the fact that you haven't a worhty insult or thought to throw at me. I have to give my dad 50 bucks a week to stay here, i have to deal with his shit and for you to try and call me out on all of this because i rejected your poor advice is just fucking childish. Is there anything else you need to know about my life? Should we go day by fucking day? It is impossible for a person who has been through some tough shit to have some happiness within them? I wasn't begging people to take me, just to give me advice as to where i could go, and how i can try to bring some piece to this situation that i am in. Go eat a fucking dick. Everyone else has been nothing but nice and optimistic..i wonder why. I'm sorry if i knocked your manhood over and you had to have a few little testosterone outbursts. And why the fuck are you going after anyone else? if you are as much of the man as you are trying to portray yourself as keep your battles where they belong..too bad most of them are prolly behind a monitor. You have no use, so just move on to another thread

This says a lot about where this girl is in life. You said that you aren't happy now just a few posts ago, but right here you are saying that you are happy, regardless of what's been going down.

Your spelling says to me that you need to finish school up before you go ANYWHERE on your own.

Hit an application like this, and you will be working on a corner at best.

I see you've calmed down, but with all these personal attacks, and all the pictures in your photobucket account(if you haven't seen it just look a page or two back), they are all about control. Now, I'm no psychologist but for a person WHO IS CLAIMING TO BE CONTROLLED to have a bunch of pictures indicating you LIKE TO CONTROL, is pretty out there.

Ash, I've called bullshit, so I don't need to do it again, but you haven't proven me wrong.

Stick to the regret for making this thread in the first place.

Only when you realize you were wrong, will you be able to move up and on.

If you take this risk and you realize you were wrong later, trust me

IT WILL BE TOO LATE

Nova after that last post, I DON'T DOUBT THAT YOU HAVE PROBLEMS, I NEVER DID.

This isn't about you, or about me being an asshole, because in any case, my assholism is getting through.

[jdub]

Why do you equate moving to New York with being raped or killed?

There are many girls who move out of their parents house without being raped or killed. Similarly there are millions of girls in NYC who go about their business everyday without being raped or killed. Granted, it is the big city and you have to keep your wits about you but its not some sort of suicide mission.

[eerased]

I hate to jump in this thread like this.. But there are some posts in here that look Identical to the shitty comments that have been posted on Shelly's blog!! I mean it's not for sure but damm close!! check it out you'll see what I mean!
I personally (opinion) think it's the same type wording punctuation and all!! We've been wondering whos been leaving those comments with no name on Shelly's blog and I think we may have stumbled on the answer!

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

Erased,

Are you speaking of me?

If so you didn't stumble on shit, I barely have time to get my own QUESTIONS in here.

This thread struck a nerve, and like I said, hopefully some girl down the line will stumble on it and decide to just stay home and get her shit together.

I do know what you're talking about - I forgot her name though.

Please link to that thread - so that Ash can have a look.

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

Ash,

I believe he's talking about another girl who is out on her own,

You need to read through her posts and shit, she is hooking just to get her daily bags, not that that is horrible, but it's not the type of life YOU WANT to live.

You need to take an hour out of gaming or doing whatever you're doing and read what this girl has to say, if you think that is the life you want to lead, then you should keep going in the direction you were before I arrived here.

http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=12803&highlight=shelly

START HERE - CLICK - VIEW MORE POSTS BY THIS USER

You will see what you CAN become if you make the wrong choices, but apparently she gets by, I guarantee she wished she was in your shoes right now.

[nova67]

Hey EE...I was wondering when you were gonna find this thread.....

[OxyContinuously]

i just spent the last hour, thereabouts reading this entire thread...Ashlee, forgot about the negativity that some members here throw your way. concentrate on what needs to be done: getting out of the situation you are in now. then think about how you can get out of the situation. those two things are all you should concentrate on. everything else is static.

btw, i live in NY, lower westchester to be exact, PM if u want any advice or whatever.

[nova67]

WOW....we are going on ten minutes without a comment in this thread...has hell frozen over?

[HMMM...]

What you need to worry about is staying clean and everything else will come in time.

[SpecialGuy69]

current last word.

[strikks]

WHAT IS MORE INTERESTING IN THIS THREAD THAN VOTING IN THE MILLIGRAMMIES AND LOOKING AT PICTURES OF THE NEW OXYS??? I SEE NO POINT FOR ALL THE MEMBERS TO BE IN THIS THREAD SHE IS OKAY AND BB MEANS WELL HE REALLY DOES,BUT YOU ALL ARE DRAGGING IT ON ,SHE HAS GOTTEN PLENTY OF GOOD ADVICE, AND A LITTLE BAD ADVICE ,AND SOME FLAMES, .....SO WHAT, IT IS OVER ,THIS SHIT IS WHACK!!!!!!GO ON RIKKI LAKE OR SOMETHING!!!

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

Oh shit,

I'm done with it.

Ash, I hope you wake up and smell reality.

That is my final final word unless someone calls me out here.

Off to the milligrammies, fun while it lasted.

Get your shit straight, be careful what you wish for.

BB

[eerased]

This is border line fucking obsession!!

My high and mighty what the hell are you here with all us junkies for if your so perfect?? Why waist your time? I'm pretty sure it is you that left the comments on Shelly's blog! I've never seen a fellow opy member talk so much shit on us opyies before.. I have no suggestions for you because you seem to know everything about everyone!! Now hurry on and search around and post some more bashing of us you can dig up!!


Ash, I'm sorry your having a bad situation right now but dont let all this bullshit get to you. You seem to have a decent head on your shoulders and I'm sure no matter what gets posted here you can dig threw it all and figure out what is best for you. We've all had to learn in one way or another that living the junky life isnt the easiest but nobody can tell you, no matter what your going to do what you want! The thing to think about in making choices is are you doing what is best for you? Most times we dont think. I'm sure I sound like I"m going in circles here because I am but what I'm trying to say is live and learn!
I hope you get it together soon and again I'm sorry your going threw a tough time right now!! Keep on moving forward and this will pass! It's just one tiny chapter in the big book of life!

[MissyAggravation]

BB -
I have read this entire thread - each and every single post.
From what I gathered - Ash came on here to vent about a bad situation and to ask for our advice in regards to her current situation.
You have every right in the world to say whatever you want - but I think that you overstepped some common decency boundaries in attacking her credibility in the manner in which you did.
Based on my own personal experiences - I very much believe most of what she had to say.
Though I will say that I do think that she said some things here that could have given some people the notion that she is attention-whoring.
Instead of focusing on that(because I'm pretty sure we've all been young and have displayed attention - seeking behaviors at one time or another) I will tell you what part of her story gave her credibility in my eyes.
She mentioned several times that she could not call any authorities to alert them to the ongoings in her home because her mother does not work and her father is the sole provider thusly no matter how big of an asshole her dad is - they need him around.
I grew up in a very abusive situation and that is exactly the reason that I never told any authority figure of the abuse that went on in our household.
It would have ripped my family apart and my homemaker mother, who is severely co-dependent upon my father - would have been helpless on her own with us children, had my father, no matter how terrible he was, been removed from the equation.
I did not want that guilt on my shoulders along with the baggage already inflicted by my father.
Even at the age of 9/10 years old I knew I couldn't tell anyone because the consequences for my family would be so severe.
Only someone else who has been through a similar situation would ever truly understand this dilemna and the inner turmoil it causes.

BB you also pointed out how she said that although her father is abusive and treats her like shit - she keeps going back because he is her father - you bring this up as though its unbelievable to you that this sort of thing happens.
At 31 years old I still call my dad when I need him - although I suffered horrendous abuse at his hands as a child.
So to me it is no surprise that she keeps going back to the situation.
Do you know what learned behavior is?
Her enviroment has conditioned her to accept all this negativity.
Which brings me to my last point.
Pointing out how Ash plays video games and has friends and whatnot really doesn't have anything to do with anything.
So you found some smiling pics of her on her MySpace.
How in any way does that negate anything at all that she's said here?
As I've said - I also had an abusive childhood - but if you were to go back and judge things based on stolen moments of time in a picture - you may think otherwise.
Sounds like the girl has had a somewhat rough life and I'm glad that she's had a few smiling moments here and there.
To tell her that she shouldn't have smiling moments is just cruel.
I understand that you think somehow that you're helping Ash or future girls who happen upon this thread - but really you turned the whole thing into a big embarassing debacle.
I hope this thread winds up in the garbage.
I would HATE for someone to come across this and to think that THIS is representative of what Opiophile is.
And I'm not saying that we shouldn't have differing opinions - but BB - you were downright bullying/abusive and that isn't the same as having an opinion.
The same as you insist that the men here are offering words of kindness to get into her pants - I'm pretty sure that you're over there wanking it to the stir you've created.


Ash - GET OUT OF THAT HOUSE.
I really have nothing to offer that hasn't already been said to you here.
It's best to not rely upon anyone to see you through life - I'm sure in having failures for parents you've already learned this.
You're so young and have so much before you - I hope that you find what it is that brings you peace in this life.

[NV12]

I never asked anyone for money, or drugs, i joked about sleeping on someone's couch, and made a few other jokes with some others who have posted here which i bet if they were in any other thread would be thought of nothing else but because i'm looking for advice i must be throwing myself all over someone to pay attention to me for five fucking minutes. I'm not some little manipulating bitch who is pissed off because her father is making her do something she doesn't want. I came here looking for advice from people who have prolly been through a situation similar have most likely been through a situation similar, but apparently that isn't all.. i have nothing better to do, i'm sorry but if i was going to waste my time i would play a fucking video game or paint, but apparently that makes me a liar too, because a few months ago before i got caught my father wasn't acting like this. Six months ago isn't now and i don't know why BB must insist that just because i was happy that i couldn't have had any trouble in my life. I'm sorry but this has just gotten out of hand and i regret even making this thread outside with becoming acquainted with a few good people. So, i'm sorry if you all feel as if i have wasted your time and lied to you, if thats what you think, then just go hang out in another thread and bullshit there

You JOKED about sleeping on someone's couch? Pardon me, but I didn't think that the situation was very funny. From your posts, you are saying you made the thread to get some good solid advice. None of the posts on this thread have been light hearted or stated in a joking manner... so if the situation is so serious... why would you joke about asking other opiophiles for help, when you know that people are willing to put themselves out there for you? If you were looking for some light hearted flirty banter with some cute boys, then you shouldn't have gone into so much detail and caused unneeded concern from good hearted people.

If this is all a big joke to you then I suggest you find another way to handle the situation. I don't come from domestic abuse and don't know what it's like, but things just don't add up. Perhaps your maturity is lacking and if that's the case, I suggest finding an adult outside the home that can help you.

THINK before you cry for help next time, and I'm sure you might get a different response. Approach it a little more seriously and I think people will let their guards down a little more. I really do hope you get help for whatever problems you face, and hope you stay clean- you have alot of living left to do.

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

You must be joking,

I didn't get to read NV's post yet, because I need to address this.

Erased - WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT MY FRIEND.

First off, I don't know you, and I really don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Second off, I'm not playing high and fucking mighty here bro, I'm trying to BASH something into this little girls head. This isn't a fucking fun lifestyle, she made the statement, "what kind of fun would that be?", when I told her the right thing to do, and this was before I realized she was full of shit, so I gave her the benfit of the doubt.

You don't know what the fuck I'm thinking, but I'll tell you this, it has nothing to do with whatever little conspiracy you have going on in your head. I've read shellys posts, because I came across the "Prostutuion" thread a while back. Other than that, you're tripping out dude, honestly.

I haven't gotten to the two posts beyond that that actually matter.

But get this, you want Opiophile to be represented as people who tell little girls to runaway from home because their dad takes their dope?

WELL I WANT NO FUCKING PART OF THAT

PERIOD

Now, I'm going to go eat, since for once I have an appetite(my life is soo tough!).

BB

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

You JOKED about sleeping on someone's couch? Pardon me, but I didn't think that the situation was very funny. From your posts, you are saying you made the thread to get some good solid advice. None of the posts on this thread have been light hearted or stated in a joking manner... so if the situation is so serious... why would you joke about asking other opiophiles for help, when you know that people are willing to put themselves out there for you? If you were looking for some light hearted flirty banter with some cute boys, then you shouldn't have gone into so much detail and caused unneeded concern from good hearted people.

If this is all a big joke to you then I suggest you find another way to handle the situation. I don't come from domestic abuse and don't know what it's like, but things just don't add up. Perhaps your maturity is lacking and if that's the case, I suggest finding an adult outside the home that can help you.

THINK before you cry for help next time, and I'm sure you might get a different response. Approach it a little more seriously and I think people will let their guards down a little more. I really do hope you get help for whatever problems you face, and hope you stay clean- you have alot of living left to do.

Repped.

NV said it better than I can once again.

I guess I get a bit emotionally involved because this little girl reminds me of my fiance'(gf) of almost 3 years. She however, chose the right route and is now saying "disgusting(sarcasm", every time I'm prepping my rig.

Don't fucking judge me or claim I'm some conspirator in whatever little scheme you have going on.

Missy - forgive me I will read that long post when I get back from dinner.

[Raz]

This girl is just a kid...She might be lookin for attention, she might not...But whatever peeps personal opinion, do we really have to come down on her so hard...
Ok, bad choices do have consequences.So far she hasnt hurt anyone or ripped any body off here at opi.
....She's just expressin herself, a bit confusing maybe.But surely she doesnt have to be ripped apart..

I thought us guys at opi, all of us, had a bit more style......

[nova67]

You JOKED about sleeping on someone's couch? Pardon me, but I didn't think that the situation was very funny. From your posts, you are saying you made the thread to get some good solid advice. None of the posts on this thread have been light hearted or stated in a joking manner... so if the situation is so serious... why would you joke about asking other opiophiles for help, when you know that people are willing to put themselves out there for you? If you were looking for some light hearted flirty banter with some cute boys, then you shouldn't have gone into so much detail and caused unneeded concern from good hearted people.

If this is all a big joke to you then I suggest you find another way to handle the situation. I don't come from domestic abuse and don't know what it's like, but things just don't add up. Perhaps your maturity is lacking and if that's the case, I suggest finding an adult outside the home that can help you.

THINK before you cry for help next time, and I'm sure you might get a different response. Approach it a little more seriously and I think people will let their guards down a little more. I really do hope you get help for whatever problems you face, and hope you stay clean- you have alot of living left to do.

Hey NV...remember back a few posts of mine I said to Ashley "without a dose of humor, irony, and sarcasm...you wouldn't be able to make it through the day" Yeah she made a few jokes about her situation...to lighten her own load man! You yourself said you didnt come from domestic abuse...so how do you know that her joking, wasn't an attempt to lighten her mental burdens...its a common tool of the abused and down trodden...Im sure you've heard the term "gallows humor" if not look it up. Again so what if her myspace has pictures of her happy...please refer back to my post with the domestic abuse chart...it is called a honeymoon period....the abuser quits, begs for your forgiveness, and then allows you a respite in order to keep you on his hook. Yes she uses jokes and sarcasm...yes she comes off a bit childish and immature, but it is a tool developed by children of abuse to come off to the abuser and others as nieve and ignorant and therefore more heinous to be abused... Yes I agree..she needs to find help to get the hell out of that house, and as fast as her feet can take her, to a safe place where she can move up from here...but there is no need to come off condecending.

[nova67]

Second off, I'm not playing high and fucking mighty here bro, I'm trying to BASH something into this little girls head. This isn't a fucking fun lifestyle, she made the statement, "what kind of fun would that be?", when I told her the right thing to do, and this was before I realized she was full of shit, so I gave her the benfit of the doubt.


BB

You just did yourself in BB....so YOU are right, and every one else has been wrong then heh? Even before you called bullshit on her, you had it pegged that YOU were right and the rest of us were wrong....THAT is why you have pursued this for soo long...because you KNOW you are right...and until every one gets on board with you you wont chill out....sorry you are so egocentric. Maybe you are the one who needs mental help.

[I-Nod]

Wondering where LOVE went... :D

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

Nova,

That was a great exposure of me, wow, I feel so humbled.

What I meant sweety, was that, I didn't judge her, it came out a little wrong, typing 1000 wpm, thinking 100% clearly isn't easy when you chicken peck.

I need help, you're right, but not in this department.

I need help getting rid of something(haha).

It seemed to me you had some underlying conditions yourself, but this isn't a thread about me or you, this is about some little girls whose daddy took her dope, so she planned to run away, nothing more.

She hasn't debated that at all in my eyes.

She's probably playing WOW on his dime right now, while locking herself in the room and saying, "I DON'T WANT TO COME TO DINNER!"

When she gets a moment she will come here, check her PMs and write back the 5-10 guys who are asking her to come live with them.

I probably should have just saved my breath in the first place, I don't think she will be leaving her house in any case, which is a good thing. What isn't a good thing is how everyone is saying "get out of there ASAP!!!!!", when they don't have a fucking clue what is going on. Neither do I, however, she knows just as well as I do that I did my research on her, I have a private message to prove she was willing to come live with me without knowing a thing about me, and I really didn't ask her anything of the sort.

So I have to wonder how many others she is PMing, but you know what, all of you people who are telling her to GO GO GO probably haven't looked into it any deeper than right here and the last 2-3 posts.

Psyche taught me a little, and I used it in this case.

I know for a fact that it isn't how she makes it seem, but you can believe whatever you like.

To be honest, stop calling me out here, because I'm done with the situation.

All kinds of conspiracys and bullshit are popping up I have no clue about, and now I'm a self righteous - tough guy, when all I wanted was for her to come clean about the REAL situation.

That isn't going to happen it seems, although she got very close - it's just too bad you guys kept egging her on. I know at the end of the day it won't be on my conscious, because I did my best.

BB

[nova67]

I got plenty of love for folks here....even BB...If he will just chill out and quit bein so ugly...
BB...by chill out Im not saying your points aren't valid...just calm down and let it be.

This really sucks...I cant PM yet...and SO many questions could be answered with just one...

Hey BB...I know you are real passionate about this, I myself have been real passionate about a subject...and got flamed and called bullshit on...you wanna see what I did to solve it go look at the "pharmacy question" thread over on the benzo board.....*now my worst flamer there is a backer of me...gave me rep points for it!*

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

Oh and when you see her on a milk carton in NYC, remember how you told her to get out of that situation as soon as possible, only to find out she got into a FAR FAR worse situation.

I won't have to deal with that.

Because like I said, I tried.

Oh and way to expose me, I mean, good job making this about your personal vendettas with me, that goes for all of you who think there is some weird other shit going on.

I have always said what I felt was RIGHT, and you're right, to be honest, I couldn't give a fuck less what YOU think is right, understand?

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

Ash,

Let me tell you something, you see how these people think it is SO DAMN HARSH ON YOU to tell you the truth? If you would come out with the TRUTH, things would go so much smoother and people will stop talking through me, and start believing you.

MY POINT IS THIS:

IF YOU THINK I'M HARSH - WAIT TILL YOU HIT THE STREETS SWEETY. It's nothing like Opiophile, it's nothing like Myspace, it's nothing like World of Warcraft. YOU'RE IN FOR A SURPRISE PARTY NOBODY WANTS TO ATTEND.

[jdub]

Just to play the devil's advocate, I think statistically her chances of being killed by an abusive father are far higher than being kidnapped and killed by a random perv.

That is assuming her dad is abusive, which I don't claim to know. I still don't understand why you act like the minute she leaves her house she will be picked up by Ted Bundy or Iceberg Slim.

[nova67]

Oh and when you see her on a milk carton in NYC, remember how you told her to get out of that situation as soon as possible, only to find out she got into a FAR FAR worse situation.

I won't have to deal with that.

Because like I said, I tried.

Oh and way to expose me, I mean, good job making this about your personal vendettas with me, that goes for all of you who think there is some weird other shit going on.

I have always said what I felt was RIGHT, and you're right, to be honest, I couldn't give a fuck less what YOU think is right, understand?

BB...I just took what you gave to the board, and made it more apparent to these folks why you are so passionate about this subject.....Next, when did I ever give her advice to do something dangerous? I told her these alternatives....Call the police, get out of the house and go on state aid, get a bus ticket and find another place to be and get on state aid, find a safe place she can be and move up from here....I have not a guilty conscience either.

When you made that statement and I highlighted it...I was using the same tactics you used on her...doesn't feel nice does it.

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

Upon counsel from my Opo-lawyer Uncle Wiggly -

I am now done with this thread, please do not call me out on it, PM me if you have an issue.

I said what I needed to say - Ashley - you have it all right there for you to read, as well as hundreds of other opinions, you got what you needed here, unless you're still looking for a couch, in which case, like I said, you really think someone isn't going to take you up on that offer?

I also said, be careful what you wish for.

I'm done with it, I hope you get help, and I hope things work out, REALLY, I do.

BB

[StealSmoke]

lol^ ,this guy seems to be real aggresive with his opinions, but i have to say I agree with his advice for the girl, stay at home where you know you're safe, where people love you, and if you have to quit doing drugs for awhile, they're really not going naywhere anytime soon ,they'll be her e in 5 months or even 5 yeaars, whenever you want to start doing dope, hopefully not shooting it and in moderation, it'll be here, for now just stop and work with your parents on bettering yourself and getting your life back in order.

[I-Nod]

I got plenty of love for folks here....

My comment wasn't directed towards you, hun... it was an inside joke (that nobody got :p )

LOVE was a trip, she was! Where'd the LOVE go??? :D

[nova67]

lol^ ,this guy seems to be real aggresive with his opinions, but i have to say I agree with his advice for the girl, stay at home where you know you're safe, where people love you, and if you have to quit doing drugs for awhile, they're really not going naywhere anytime soon ,they'll be her e in 5 months or even 5 yeaars, whenever you want to start doing dope, hopefully not shooting it and in moderation, it'll be here, for now just stop and work with your parents on bettering yourself and getting your life back in order.


"stay at home where you know you're safe, where people love you"

^^^^^ that is the point im trying to make here, when I am telling her to get out of the house, but in a safe and sane way, is because if she is being abused...it is NOT a safe place, and she is NOT where people love her. I dont know if she is really being abused but from my own life in that hell her story rings ever so true with me on that count....I am telling her to go because she is much better off getting housing cupons and food stamps....than being verbally and physically abused....

[SpecialGuy69]

My comment wasn't directed towards you, hun... it was an inside joke (that nobody got :p )

LOVE was a trip, she was! Where'd the LOVE go??? :DSomebody peeled the green off my OC 80's, and wrapped it around some tylenols!

[eerased]

I probably should have just saved my breath in the first place,
BB

I couldn't agree with you more here!!

What your saying to this girl isnt the problem it's the way your saying it!!

Your also calling all the folks in the beginning of the thread not very nice things by saying they only offer there help because there thinking with there dick! That just isn't cool at all! We may be junkies here (which we know you are better than) but that doesn't mean we don't care for others! Some of your comments or advice seemed good but the way you presented it was off the wall..

You sound a little troubled yourself! So before you go throwing insults all over the place go have a looksie at yourself!

BTW I'm a girl not your bro!


Sorry to derail the thread here!!

ASH, how are things going now?? Have you made any decisions! Please dont put much thought into the posts were you are being put down. There are some really great peeps here and I'm sure they want nothing but the best for you! Whether your here for advice or attention makes no difference! Were all still here and most of us dont judge! So hang in there girlie like I said before this to shall pass as with everything else in life!:)

EDIT, I just saw your post that you are backing out of the thread!! I didnt see it before I typed this.. I also am done with discussing you in her thread!! so this will be my last post about you!! Just agree to disagree!

[StealSmoke]

"stay at home where you know you're safe, where people love you"

^^^^^ that is the point im trying to make here, when I am telling her to get out of the house, but in a safe and sane way, is because if she is being abused...it is NOT a safe place, and she is NOT where people love her. I dont know if she is really being abused but from my own life in that hell her story rings ever so true with me on that count....I am telling her to go because she is much better off getting housing cupons and food stamps....than being verbally and physically abused....



oh I see wah tyou're sayng, and if she said she was beign beaten or somethign liek that I would agree, but she only said that her dad verbally "abuses" her, or insults her because of her drug abuse mainly, now in a way, I can see what her dad is angry at her and insulting her, granted he takes it too far, but he obviously loves her, and this is basically one of only two things she said that her dad does, yelling at her, and basically "grounding" her, now I undersatdn she is now an adult, but only 2 and 1/2 years ago she wasnt, and that's not a logn time apart from now, and he grounded her for a reason, and because of somethign she did, he wouldnt haev grounded his own ddaughter had he not found heroin and a bunch of needles on her. how would you ract is you foudn the ae in your daughter's room? people nowadays spank their children for taking sips of soda that the ywerent allowed to drink, and yell at them and "abuse" them i nthe same way she is sayign she's abused.

I don't know, my point is ok, her dad yells at her and grounds her, because, she is/ was shootign up heroin, this is the man's daughter, I feel for him more than I do for her, in a way, and no offense Ash and I don't want t odowplay your situation, but I can tell he's only trying to help you, be he a bit extreme or not, al lhe did was groudn ehr and yell at her, billiosn of kids endure this every day around the world, and for much less than heroin abuse. so why would she run fro mthe only people who love her enough to look out for her like that? and it may not seem to her or some of us like he's "helping" her because he grounds her and yells at her, but he's only doign this t ohelp her, if he didnt love her and want to help her, he wouldnt waste his own time, like I mentioned before, and go out of his way, to try to get her clean and off drugs.

so why run away from someoebn who loves you more tha ANYONE else you could run TO, just because he tried to help you? becasue he doesnt want t ohelp you how you want t obe helped?

nothign her dad did, for the most part, or from wha tI've read, sounds even remotely bad to me, grounding her and convining her to her own home, with internet and phone access, and probably tons of food and beverage, to keep her from going out and injecting heroin at her young age and literally killing herself(not that all people don't kill themselves in some way slowlly on the daily), all becasue hshe did somethign wrong udner this man's roof, and to help clean her up, this is obviously in order to help her, and that is nto a bad thing ,but a good thing, and it should be looked at as such.

maybe the man's just tryign to set an example or make a point her injectign heroin probably influences her siblings a whoel lot, and not doign anythign about it and going about i ntheir lives like everybody's fine with her doign this would make her siblings think it's alright to do, and thus influence them into thinking they can do drugs and get away with it too. so maybe it's that, mayeb not, eitheer way, he's only tryign to help her. beign yelled at for doing somethign so bad at such a young age and beign grounded for doing smethign this bad at her age is no reason or escse for her to run out on her entire family whose only trying to help her.

being verbally abused is a very subjective concept, I personally barely believe in such a thing, I mean obviously when it's just plai nracism, hate speech without reason, and things like that , sexism or whatever, but yelling at a heroin 'junky', in her own words describing herself, for beign such, is barely abuse, I take it you were never punished or grounded as a kid? or had strict parents? all parents would be "abusive" if you consider verbally yelling at someone for doign somethign wrong "abuse", I call it yelling and/or piunishment, whic his wha tit is. that kidn of thinking reminds me of these people who are trying to send parents whpoo spank their children to jail for "abuse", it's called love, punishment , and another word that just left my mind before I could reply.



she needs to work thingso out wiht her dad, get clean for a while, start school, ask him what he wants you t odo, I guarantee it will be reasonabekla and beneficial t oyou and in your interests more than his.


so my point, her dad only wants t ohelp her, and al lhe dos that she is considerign as abuse is yell at her becasue of her wrongdoing, and groun d her because of her wrong doing, she is living under his roof and has been apparently for her entire life, doing dope under his roof, influencing his other kids to do drugs or think they're alright to do.

just reason wit him, do wah the wants, it's very probable that anythign he wants yo ut odo is betetr than anything you want yo ut odo, or wanted to do when you were using .

[starglazer33]

WHAT IS MORE INTERESTING IN THIS THREAD THAN VOTING IN THE MILLIGRAMMIES AND LOOKING AT PICTURES OF THE NEW OXYS??? I SEE NO POINT FOR ALL THE MEMBERS TO BE IN THIS THREAD SHE IS OKAY AND BB MEANS WELL HE REALLY DOES,BUT YOU ALL ARE DRAGGING IT ON ,SHE HAS GOTTEN PLENTY OF GOOD ADVICE, AND A LITTLE BAD ADVICE ,AND SOME FLAMES, .....SO WHAT, IT IS OVER ,THIS SHIT IS WHACK!!!!!!GO ON RIKKI LAKE OR SOMETHING!!!

that was nicely put!