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Beefmang
02-24-2008, 09:25 PM
Hey guys, I'm relatively new to this board and I really enjoy the wealth of information that this board has to offer, and would first like to thank everyone for getting me through some hard times as well as helping me do this scourge of a drug a little bit more safely.

For most of you who don't know, I'm a freshman at the University of Pittsburgh, main campus, and have been living in a dorm with a roommate since the fall. I'm on a suboxone maintenance program, 12 milligrams a day, and also IV heroin more than I ever promised myself i would do again. I used to be pretty hardcore with the dope...upwards of 8 or so bags a day...then the sub program started and changed everything, and for the first time i was clean for almost a year. Then, just recently I started IVing again...taking little "breaks" from my suboxone to get high of dope for a couple days. And as most of you have experienced, that habit increased dramatically, very quickly, as it always does.

I keep most of my goods (bags, syringes, cottons, etc..) in a drawer in my computer desk. I've always kept my habit a secret from my roommate cuz hes pretty stiff and would never understand something like dope addiction. I always thought I was pretty smooth with it, and he never mentioned anything about it to me, so I thought everything was all good. So about an hour ago...he opens up the door to our dorm...and whaddya know, two cops and the president of residence for the university roll in with him. Shit.

The cops asked if they could ask me a couple questions and being very polite and courteous I obliged, trying to be as cooperative as possible. They said my roommate had voiced his concern about things going on the room...to them, and not me....and the bottom line was that they wanted to search my room. Well, there wasn't much I could do at this point and I told them where the stash was...and when they opened this drawer to see about 70 empty glassines and about 15 used syringes, they were both kinda stunned. Luckily, one of the boys in blue was a decent guy. But, now I hafta wait for a summons to goto court as well as a meeting with the schools form of a "magistrate". I worked my entire life to be able to come to this University...and I let this drug ruin it. After being clean so long and making my parents and girlfriend so proud...I fukin pissed it all out the window. Thanks to that fuckin rat of a roommate who couldnt have just came to me and said get that shit outta the room. I'm gonna do everything I can to remain here at the school, and hope and pray that everything works out.

Bottom line...heroin = not worth it. Keep your fingers crossed for me, and sorry for the length.
Thanks for your time.
Beefmang

clinton
02-24-2008, 09:28 PM
what a cunt.......
what aRe youR options?

rcb
02-24-2008, 09:33 PM
Fuck your roommate man. That sucks.
Hopefully you can work something out.. good luck..
Don't be so hard on yourself though..

Beefmang
02-24-2008, 09:35 PM
Well right now that pres. or residence who was up here said she doesnt wanna promise that I'll remain here but she said she has seen situations like this before and that the kids got to stay at the university...as long as your cooperative and complaint. It's definitely coulda been avoided though...but I guess you could say that about everything that goes wrong

ein0606
02-24-2008, 09:55 PM
that roomate needs his ass beat.

but seriously man, do whatever it takes to stay in school. pitt is a great school. i was supposed to go there but turned it down for some stupid bitch.
maybe this will be a good lesson to turn your life around. ive seen it happen before and it work out for the best. i hope it does for you.

take care

Mallinckrodt
02-24-2008, 10:17 PM
I can't believe people like that exist. That is just heartless.

But hey, like rcb said, you really shouldn't be so hard on yourself. It sounds like you might have a good chance to stay in school.

What exactly are they going to charge you with? Are you going to have to do any time?

If not, and you get to stay in school, you could make something positive out of this and maybe use the subs to clean up a little until you get your degree and redeem yourself. Just do everything you can to show them you're serious about your classes, and to remind them you are probably going to spend 60 grand or so there over the next few years, and I can definitely see them giving you another chance.

And then, when it's all said and done, find that motherfucker and set him up with an ounce of crack, all in separate dime baggies, and make sure he's in a school zone!

No. . . . . .But seriously, good luck man, keep your head up.

Levity
02-24-2008, 10:35 PM
I've seen this happen before.

What you need to do, as soon as fucking possible, is be up front and confess to everything.
Tell them you're an addict, that you need and want help, and that you'll do everything in your power to stay clean if the school and the system will work with you.

You meed to stress the fact that you have a problem and that your education and the school is one of the few things keeping you from spiraling down to rock bottom.

Most schools are willing to bend over backwards to help you if they can. I might suggest going to your school's Wellness Center or Counselors and coming clean to them. Ask for help, get them on your side. Then talk to your faculty advisor or at least a tenured (that's important!) staff member who knows you who might be willing to go out on a limb for you.

Get your ass-kissing suit dry cleaned and pressed, because you're going to need it.

My e-mail is jmannhal@gmail.com. Please contact me if you need any advice or help.

Crow
02-24-2008, 10:37 PM
Terribly sorry to hear about your situation man, if I were you that roommate would be the first person stabbed....and probably not the last either.

In other words, it's a good thing you aren't me. Hahaha. The person above me who said maybe it will end up bieng a good thing and turn your life around is right, keep your chin up.

SpecialGuy69
02-24-2008, 10:39 PM
oh man, I'm so sorry to hear that. I really hope everything works out okay for you.

I hope someone kills your roommate slowly.

Do you still have to share a room with that scumfuck?

Dances with Smack
02-24-2008, 11:10 PM
Beef,

I certainly hope that these series of events does not spell the end of your career, academic or otherwise. I do agree with Lev's advice in that getting counselors and medicos on your side would shine a very good light on you, as well as getting your ass-kissing monkey suit dry cleaned for your appointment with this so-called 'magistrate.'

I assume this 'roomie' of yours is a freshman as well. You did mention that s/he was 'kinda stiff' and is the kind that does/would not understand addiction. Well I guess you were right. Just outta high school and first time away from mama, the only thing s/he understands about folks who use H is what s/he learned from high school 'health' films...and the media. For all s/he knew, you were gonna go crazy and stab him/her for the measly $5 s/he has in his/her pocket so you can go get your drugs.

Yeah, right...

In light of what happened, it would be in your best interest to make sure that no harm comes to this dude/ette...regardless of how bad s/he has it coming. Folks like that either wise up real fast or will be done in...by others.

Keep your chin up and dignity intact. This may just be the thing to get you clean once and for all...

Uncle Wiggly
02-24-2008, 11:13 PM
Sorry to hear what happened to you. I hate fucking rats. He could have talked to you first and none of this would be happening. But that's not the case now. Levity gave you some great advice. Basically it's ass-kissing time now and compliance is the word for the day. I teach at a college and I know about students getting into the same predicament you're in right now. One of the students in one of my ensembles was in the same situation as you and they're still in school and doing well. Do what Levity suggested you do. Be proactive about your recovery, don't try and hide shit, don't make excuses, and let them know how much it means to you to keep in school. Levity knows exactly what he's talking about. There are no guarantees but this is your best chance to stay where you want to be.

BTW - Do not kill, hurt or in any way molest your room-mate - no matter how much he deserves it. :rolleyes:

Good luck

HowLongIsTooLong
02-24-2008, 11:40 PM
God I wonder...

So... don't take this advice, just hear it out and call a lawyer...

They didn't find any drugs in the room? Maybe you shouldn't admit to anything at all. You didn't know what the people in the room were doing when you weren't there, and your roomate has a personal vendetta against you cause you banged his cockholster whore... and you've seen him hanging with some decidedly shady types. ANYONE could have put that stuff in your unlocked drawer.

I mean, they found a bunch of paraphernalia... granted. but no drugs = no drug charges... you really MUST consult a lawyer. I have found that it is rarely in your favor to admit freely to what THEY are accusing you of... the fifth amendment is there for a reason... NEVER implicate yourself. NEVER!!! You are not ever expected to hang yourself out to dry. Let the others try. But make sure you consult a lawyer before ANYTHING.

I fear that you might have already said too much... you need to zip your lip and consult a lawyer POSTHASTE. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

I sincerely hope that you get through this... it breaks my heart to hear that people are so vicious. That motherfucker wouldn't piss on you to put you out if he saw you on fire. I am praying for you.

D

pharmboy
02-24-2008, 11:56 PM
Heroin dosen't seem to be the problem here.

First, it's your fucking cunt roommate and his Nazi informant

little trick, bottem line, Have him killed.

Second, it's our stupid ass country where if the constitution

was followed like it should be heroin and the police wouldn't

travel in the same circles. I feel for ya bud .. but your fucked.

robojunkie
02-25-2008, 12:04 AM
Look bro, I don't know you, but I hate to see this happen to any junky who has worked to get wherever they are in life only to have it seriously fucked with by some piece of human shit who deserves nothing more than to hang on quisling's noose. What I would advise is this: as regards your college career, and this has alot to do with what year you are, your grades/scores/reccomendations/major (like if chemistry or pharmacy, get out and start over, otherwise stay), as well as how much you like this school (I'm not familiar with UPitt, are they one of the big division I schools or a smaller one I wouldn't know of out here in NE?), but if as it seems you have alot invested, whether time, money, effort or all of the above, is to follow levity's advice with regards to school, and do the exact opposite with regards to the law.

First thing, get a lawyer, as in a criminal defense attorney, and also the best form of advocate that your school's system allows for in any potential suspension hearings. If you do sports, give it up for now, its too much to overcome and not worth it unless the NFL or whoever is looking at you. Then, do whatever the school requests of you regarding rehab and shit that will enable you to stay, with the exception of legal "advice". Then, should they push for this type of stuff (and they shouldn't as it would be highly unethical of them) just say your lawyer won't let you discuss ongoing court matters. Then do whatever you can to get strong recommendations from your professors, especially in your major and/or one's you may have done undergrad research or internships with. In the ivory tower, the words of one faculty member are worth much more than just about anything with other faculty members (unless of course they hate each other, which isn't too rare), and if you play it right, you can use the "disability/under medical care (suboxone)" defense to any leanings towards expulsion by whatever standards committee you may have at your school (and watch out for other undergrads on this committee, if your school does it like this, they are like trustees in a prison, worse than any guard). Hopefully if played right and your career goals don't involve chemicals or drugs, you'll rehab off term and not lose any time. And hopefully your lawyer can somehow convince the court of illegal search and siezure/roommate as agent of police (this is necessary for the first one)/failure to declare your rights w/o search warrant in the course of an obvious criminal investigation, as well as your roommate having no rights whatsoever to grant access to your personal effects.

And, please try to remember this, especially at your age and during this shit: heroin has not taken from you, the state is trying to, your roommate made his shittiest best efforts, and 90 years of propaganda certainly is giving it its best shot through all the prejudice against us out there. If you honestly feel that were heroin legal and accepted, with no punitive actions allowed by law to be taken on its users, that you'd still feel negatively about it, then by all means take that rehab seriously and get out while you may be able to. However if not, practice the art of pragmatic thinking, harm reduction and the longview. By this I mean accept that for now you just gotta lay low with the dope, collect them clean UA's and play the damn "redeemed junky" game the government so loves to believe exists (it doesn't, look at the stats, only maintenance makes any impact, and well, its maintenance, as in a maintained addiction. Funny how in a roundabout way the gov actually admits that we can all function normally while taking large amounts of opioids on a daily basis, just not if they are acylated or administered via syringe). But anyway, be that "success story" they want to believe in, and they'll slowly let go of the "mistake" that was your "first strike", at least in actions if not opinions. But just don't succumb to that tragic syndrome that has plagued all racial/ethnic/religious/sexual/cultural minorities since the dawn of time, the internalization of society's hatred and prejudice and stereotyping. Logically speaking, what is morally wrong with requiring a drug that should be cheap and commonplace to function? Even using the most stringent Kantian principle of universalization, one still can't make a convincing argument against without resorting to bogus stereotypes and assumptions, so don't let them bring you down!

And, remember that dish best served cold. Find this shitbag's info, all of it, and hold on to it as long as you hold on to this awful memory. And, then when the time is right, dole out some payback you feel is a just dessert for that poisoned dinner he served back in college. Please don't infer murder and such, we don't recommend this type of thing. I'm talking more artful and creative, like when he's married and everything is as white and clean as his picket fence, your long planned scheme to say, get him drunk, have the right working girl work her magic on him, with you conveniently planted camera and video in hand, acquire what you need, and set to work inducing a never ending (at least as long as the marriage) state of fear and anxiety and constant bankruptcy in him. Nothing less than he deserves, an attempt at destroying an honestly built life.

Good luck, and get that lawyer ASAP, and admit nothing more until you speak with him/her.

pharmboy
02-25-2008, 12:31 AM
Damn Robo your so eloquent and logical : Take Robo's advice kid

and forget all that killin and shit, just kiddn any ways.

Levity
02-25-2008, 12:57 AM
I forgot to mention this...

Sadly, the law is not on your side in this one. Most college housing contracts basicly rob you pf any Constitutional rights when it comes to unlawful entry and search and seizure. The school acts as the gatekeeper, and if they want to let Officer Friendly in your room, then they can and usually will.

If no drugs were found, then maybe they'll just pop you for paraphenelia.

However, I have to strongly suggest against trying to play one song for the law and another for your school. Trust me - they will be in contact with one another.

The important thing is figuring out a way to stay in school. If that means you have to plead out to something, then do it... Remember though, if you get convicted of a felony, that federal financial aid is gonna dry up real fast.

Do this...

1. Get a good criminal defence lawyer
2. Start taking your subs and seeing your sub doctor regularly; maybe explain the situation and tell him you need an increase because they obviously aren't working
3. See the campus shrink and/or campus pastor, religious figure
4. Talk to tenured faculty who like you; order of presidence is: first, advisor/research or internship supervisor, second in your major's department, third in your minor's department, and fourth anyone with tenure who knows you

Suboxstitute
02-25-2008, 01:12 AM
OK - good news - one thing you have going for you: you are ALREADY on sub maintenance. Sure, we all fuck up and so you did - but you ALREADY admitted you had a problem by getting on the sub, and you are trying your damnest to clean up. That is your story. Stick with it.

I would NOT lie and say you don't know how the shit got there in your desk - sounds way stupid and desparate to me in this situation. Take the position that you need H E L P with a capital "H" not punishment. Esp. if there were NO DRUGS in that drawer (Sorry if I missed the answer to that one.)

That is BIG TIME in your favor if you ask me. Lots of people get on sub, don't get on the right dose and they still have cravings and shit. THAT IS YOU RIGHT NOW. And do NOT talk to anyone w/o first talking to a good lawyer. Do your parents know anything? Any money of your own? Line of credit on a credit card? DO WHAT IT TAKES TO TALK TO A GOOD LAWYER.

Is your sub doc cool? Maybe he could help. come clean with him, tell him the dose wasn't cutting it, and with all the stress of school and all that (first year IS a stressful year) you found yourself turning to old ways. How are your grades holding up? Will be good if they are holding up.

Also - it sounds like your first offense, and they found the works but didn't find any dope - right?

Make an appointment with a lawyer, and possibly also with the school's mental health/drug & alcohol people (although they could be rats too, it's a tough call). Again the theme is: you need help, not punishment, and you already know youhave a problem since you are on sub. Addiction is a disease once you get to the point you are at. Try to get the "powers" to think of you that way - you are sick, not a criminal.

YOU WILL GET THROUGH THIS. DO NOT LET IT RUIN YOUR LIFE AND NOT FINISH COLLEGE. But fuckin' change roommates for both your sakes.

In the next 5-7 years, the baby boomers are retiring and there will be jobs for the taking - if you have some education behind you. Right now, believe me - it's the worst you will feel. It will start to sort itself out as soon as you take the steps I've outlined.

And your roommate IS a supreme asshole. I am not a bible thumper but "JUDGE NOT, LEST YE BE JUDGED" COMES TO MIND. Karma will take care of him.

Suboxstitute
02-25-2008, 01:15 AM
Also what Levity said is all good - if you take his advice and combine it with mine (If Levity doesn't mind being mentionedin the same post as me.....) you just may get through this. Our ideas were for the most part quite similar.

GOOD LUCK. Keep up posted, we will support you.

BBgunnedTheEagle
02-25-2008, 01:33 AM
Your life isn't ruined dude,

This is temporary and it too shall pass.

College doesn't spell happiness man, don't go killing yourself or something like that(if you do take the snitch with you, jokes).

You can still travel on the Greyhound for under a bill, and have a happy life man.

I went to school, it did shit for me - I run my own web design business not one lick was learned in class.

You'll get by dude, just be easy and comply for now - and seriously that set up idea was a good one.

If there was no dope - there is no crime, and who the fuck put that shit in there anyway?

He just happened to know something was up, if they test you - he gave you some weird "aspirin" he said would make you ALL BETTER. You looked it up and threatened to call the cops of he didn't get that shit out of the room and what do you know, the cops and dean(or whoever) show up.

It will work out man.

BB

Suboxstitute
02-25-2008, 01:37 AM
I went to school, it did shit for me - I run my own web design business not one lick was learned in class.


That can be true, that is for sure.

However, depending on what your goals are, you may still need the degree. So try to stay calm, I know it is very hard, and your life is most definitely NOT over. Not over at all. Just seems that way right now.

All my best thoughts to you. And if there was NO DOPE that is all the better for you. Next time, hide it real, real good (if there is a next time). Like in a sock in your drawer... but hindsight is 20/20 isn't it now....

/Sue

turdkenedy
02-25-2008, 01:44 AM
thats horrible man, i feel very sorry for you.

are you definetly getting kicked out of school or what? try to fight it. perhaps you can explain that you have a history of struggling with addiction and perhaps if you have good grades and a history of seeking help for your problem you can negotiate a bargain.

and your room mate is a piece of shit.

good luck man.

nova67
02-25-2008, 03:11 AM
WOW...when I first read all this, the scene from Trainspotting came to mind "with gods help...i will conquer this terrible affliction" Really, you NEED to find a lawyer and there are many that will work on peanuts...a college students budget...I really feel for ya man, and a suggestion for your roomate...try the snake pit *you drug him he wakes up with his dick through a hole in 2x4 and a pit full of hungry rattle snakes looking for pink baby mice...oh whats that! :D" yeah im just kidding but seriously like Robo said...you need to play the reformed-on the path of good now-changed citizen...it may be the only thing that saves you now...again no actual drugs=no big charge...I know this because i went through a eerily similar situation. Was going to a really good school for my veterinary medicine doctorate...got popped by a fuckin rat...and I was able to stay in school, but only after i had shown good faith on a rehab program for a year, it put me behind on my major, but i am still able to persue my doctorate...but life changed for me, got married and had kids, school got put on the back burner, and became a vet tech for the time being...dont get down that school is your ONLY ticket to a great life, mine may not be exactly the dream I had in school but its great none-the-less. If your family and SO really love and care for you they will come around in time...folks like that always do...I know I didn't talk to my mom for that whole year afterward but she DID come back into my life eventually...thats the beauty of life, it goes on, and you can never tell what life will hold tomorrow. When it comes to the schools own judgment board...the higher faculties word is gold...if you can find a F.member who is tenured that you trust, spill your guts to him/her, get him/her to back you...in my experience it makes a WORLD of difference. Be compliant...submissive...and remorseful to the police and other authorities...feed into that propaganda of the model junky who has been turned around, why do you think the tv show "intervention" is so popular, they love that crap. Keep your hopes up...there really is light at the end of the tunnel!

Levity
02-25-2008, 03:23 AM
OK - good news - one thing you have going for you: you are ALREADY on sub maintenance. Sure, we all fuck up and so you did - but you ALREADY admitted you had a problem by getting on the sub, and you are trying your damnest to clean up. That is your story. Stick with it.

I would NOT lie and say you don't know how the shit got there in your desk - sounds way stupid and desparate to me in this situation. Take the position that you need H E L P with a capital "H" not punishment. Esp. if there were NO DRUGS in that drawer (Sorry if I missed the answer to that one.)

That is BIG TIME in your favor if you ask me. Lots of people get on sub, don't get on the right dose and they still have cravings and shit. THAT IS YOU RIGHT NOW. And do NOT talk to anyone w/o first talking to a good lawyer. Do your parents know anything? Any money of your own? Line of credit on a credit card? DO WHAT IT TAKES TO TALK TO A GOOD LAWYER.

Is your sub doc cool? Maybe he could help. come clean with him, tell him the dose wasn't cutting it, and with all the stress of school and all that (first year IS a stressful year) you found yourself turning to old ways. How are your grades holding up? Will be good if they are holding up.

Also - it sounds like your first offense, and they found the works but didn't find any dope - right?

Make an appointment with a lawyer, and possibly also with the school's mental health/drug & alcohol people (although they could be rats too, it's a tough call). Again the theme is: you need help, not punishment, and you already know youhave a problem since you are on sub. Addiction is a disease once you get to the point you are at. Try to get the "powers" to think of you that way - you are sick, not a criminal.

YOU WILL GET THROUGH THIS. DO NOT LET IT RUIN YOUR LIFE AND NOT FINISH COLLEGE. But fuckin' change roommates for both your sakes.

In the next 5-7 years, the baby boomers are retiring and there will be jobs for the taking - if you have some education behind you. Right now, believe me - it's the worst you will feel. It will start to sort itself out as soon as you take the steps I've outlined.

And your roommate IS a supreme asshole. I am not a bible thumper but "JUDGE NOT, LEST YE BE JUDGED" COMES TO MIND. Karma will take care of him.

I don't mind being mentioned at all.

Unless you sign a waiver, the mental health/counselors at your school can't talk to anyone about what you say.
Counselor/Mental Health Professional-Client/Consumer Confideniality is more sacred that Docor-Patient or Lawyer-Client confidentiality, regardless of the situation.

Even as a student I'm only allowed to disclose so much to my supervisors. It's taken *very* seriously.

Like I said, contact me if you need anything.

alowishus
02-25-2008, 04:06 AM
What a fucking buzz kill, I had two cops come and get me in class once...it's a bitch fer sure, so many things running through your head at that split second....

You got some great advice up top, good luck bro.

erica
02-25-2008, 04:30 AM
Shit...that really sucks man, sorry to hear about that.

People like that just don't understand, and never will. It's unfortunate, but there's such a stigma attached to drug use (opiate use ESPECIALLY) in America. It's seen as the effect of bad morals, continual poor judgments, and character weakness. They don't understand the true nature of an addiction, the chemical changes in the brain...I could go on for a while about this. The bottom line is they don't comprehend the fact that it's not easy to just quit - it's not a simple CHOICE - often times, kicking is the HARDEST thing we've ever had to do, all the time feeling the shittiest we've ever felt - physically and emotionally.
This roommate did not treat you like a person...If it were a nonuser, who was say, playing his music too loud - your roommate would have most likely just asked him to turn it down, just a man-to-man discussion. Yours didn't even think of that, he obviously judged you as a bad person immediately - not treating you as another human being, he basically betrayed you and took action as if you were a criminal...not to be trusted.
That's disappointing, and on top of having to deal with being exposed, embarrassed, and threatened with being kicked out of school, you also have to deal with the emotions associated with being treated like absolute dirt by someone who you share your living quarters with.
I'm sorry if this is such a novel, haha, but I kind of had the same situation happen with my last roommate (not as severe, but similar).

Good luck, Beefmang (don't know your real name, lol sorry). Stick in there, do what you have to do, and just remember that there ARE people out there that can empathize. (Most of us are here, btw :) )

Raz
02-25-2008, 04:48 AM
What a fuckin scumbag....All he had to do was talk to you 1st and his worries were over re the drug paraphrenalia...Looks like straightboy just panicked and grassed you up.What a fuckin wanker....

Like Robo says, concentrate on gettin this problem resolved.And make sure you stay in school...Even so far as sayin to the shithead,"yeah man you did the right thing grassing me up, at least i'm gettin help for my addiction now".....

Lull that fucker into a false sense of security for as long as it takes...Then when the time is right, you can use all your intellect plannin your revenge.A physical beatin is too good for this cunt.It has to be something machievellan, where this shitbag sees his life totally collaspe.Be even better if he's acheived somekind of status in his fucked up world and you just bring it all crumblin down.I'm talkin career, marriage finances the lot....

I once took revenge for on a cunt 14/15yrs after he tried to rob me as a school kid.He didnt get anything, even though at the time he was about 10yr older than me.
When i fucked him up wiv some violence it felt good.And the CS gas he choked on made it even better.I fucked him up in a bookmakers and they had to evacuate the premises after he got a blast....And then a serious beating.While giving him my opinions on bullies...

You've got plenty time to work out your options.Dont rush and be smart....
Also it might be good if ya got one of your buddy's to play devils advocateAnd subject you to some ??? that they are likely to ask you on campus.So you can be prepared and dont get caught out liein or something

OxyDust
02-25-2008, 05:56 AM
I have been busted in a dorm room before! Me, my best friend, and some girl were smoking weed and blowing the smoke out the window. About 45 minutes later we get a knock on the door and it's two cops and the RA, im fucked! They search the room and find my pipe and my weed, i also had about 6 hits of acid on some candy that i ate right before they came in! I went to jail and was tripping in jail (not fun)! One of the boys in blue told me he had a friend that smoked some weed and then went for a drive and crashed and died because of weed (yeah fucking right), I wanted to say he is full of shit but i kept my mouth shut...

oxycat
02-25-2008, 07:20 AM
What a bummer! Everyone has given you some really good advice. Listen to it well and be smart! My thoughts are with you!

Beefmang
02-25-2008, 07:34 AM
Thanks alot everyone for your support. You've all given me a sense of hope amidst this shitty time. As for the roommate, he's fuckin gone. He didn't even stay here last night...about an hour after it was all over...good thing cuz I woulda wanted to have a few words with him. As for me, the next step is callin my parents...cuz in about a week or so my home address, not college address, will be receiving a summons to court, and that would be a terrible way to find out your sons in trouble.

Thanks again for being so supportive, it really means alot to me...i'll keep ya posted about how the cards fall in this situation.

jopiated
02-25-2008, 08:05 AM
I would have to agree with HowLongIsToolong on this for sure. You don't exactly have to Deny it, but you don't have to admit it either, atleast as far as court goes anyway. Your life is far from ruined, trust me. You are doing alot better than alot of people right now. Definetely consult a lawyer but also remember that colleges tuitions are in the publics eye right now, most people wouldn't agree with you being thrown out after all the money you have probably spent. Oh yeah, and just because the college can act as a gatekeeper on dorms does not mean that everybody will agree with that. One thing you have to know is that if there were spoons and cottons and things of that nature they can charge you with possession, due to residues and such, if they haven't done that then this should tell you something!! You are not the type of "Person" the cops really wanna just throw in the joint, you have a bright future and if you go into court or whatever looking good with a little halo and your FAMILY, you will get a better break. Keep us all posted and we all hope you the best. Remember, you have nothing to worry about.

ashx0xlee
02-25-2008, 11:12 AM
I know you are reading the same thing over and over again from everyone but this is going to do you good because it will help you when it comes to all those sessions you are going to have with the school boards along with johnny law.If you sell you story right you prolly can get out of this with just a few fines and you might be removed from housing for the rest of the year. Something similar happened to my friend with a larger collection of multiple substances, but his grades were close to top notch along with the fact the kid could talk his way out of a murder. He got a few slaps on the wrist along with a suspension of one semester and then went right back into how he was. But then again, maybe this is your wake up call to finally call it quits.

I think everyone is right and you just need to admit to having a problem and make all the efforts you can to get help, start going to meetings start seeing more doctors, maybe even go to a psych, try and blame all this shit on some bad childhood experience that has left you unable to concentrate anymore and although you had the subs you are human and make mistakes. In todays society pity is everything. So long as you can get some group behind you along with a good lawyer you will be able to get through all of this and prolly stay in school. Just make sure you are consistent, because the minute they think you are either lying to them or trying to hide something from them you are going to lose all chances. I wish you a lot of luck, and don't let this kill your spirit. With all your time spent with this shit you should know by now that there is always going to be something that is going to put an end to you peaceful little world. And uh, if you need help taking care of your roommate, i'll be more than happy to make my way out there : ]

candyshop
02-25-2008, 01:37 PM
this sickens me- sucks beyond belief that you ended up with the single college kid on the planet that has not experimented-most roommates would at least talk to you first-
you have been given much excellent advice and i would be surprised if the don't fall for the whole "i need help,this was a blessing in disguise,i am glad i got caught"...ect bit

but that rotten ,evil,prissy,nosy,sneaky,prying, life destroying fucktard that invaded your privacy and ratted you out needs to be taught a big lesson ...or a an endlesss series of little ones

-nair in his conditioner bottle
-laxatives in his drinks (visine )
-itching powder in all his toiletries
-rub chocolate bars on the seat of every pair of underwear he owns
-thai fish sauce in the rinse cycle of his laundry
-hide raw frozen shrimp in the box spring of his mattress
-sign him up with nambla
-green or blue food coloring in his mouthwash
-replace his daily multivitamin with estrogen
-remove inside seam crotch seam in all of his pants,then clip every third stitch-they will not fall apart until he is out running around
-plant giant dildos and buttplugs in his backpack,briefcase ,gymbag,cglove compartment-where they are likely to fall out/ be discovered in public
-request celine dion songs,in his name ,at local college station
-treat the armpit area of all jackets with male cat urine
-stuff the toes of all of his shoes with raw ,rotting chicken livers
-the classic "put his toothbrush in your anus,take photo,replace tooth brush and do not reveal till weeks later" is always nice as well
- have him beaten by thugs


seriously,it is awful that this happened to you-grossly unfair to see a lifetime of hard work at risk because someone invaded your privacy--i truly hope this is resolved favorably

Beefmang
02-25-2008, 07:38 PM
^^^haha candyshop those are some good ones. Here i am, just moved into my new "single" dorm room, cuz they had me move out of the old one...probably for fear that I just might do some of those things suggested by candyshop. I finally talked to my parents today...had my mom make the 45 minute drive up so i could tell her face to face and not over the phone cuz you all know how that can be. So at least that part of the ordeal is over. Now I wait and see. I am scheduled to see the school'd drug and alcohol counselor tomorrow at 11am for a meeting so hopefully that goes over well. I'm anxious to here what she'll have to say, and hear what course of action she recommends that i take. I guess we'll see...I'll keep yins posted.

once again, thanks for all the support, its really helped me through this insanity.

bluesubaru
02-25-2008, 08:19 PM
good luck with the meeting tomorrow...the school doesn't want to kick you out, they see you as a profit with a $ sign on your forehead. chances are, if you plead that you need/want help and follow their 'program' of treatment you will be able to stay. it helps that you only had paraprenalia and not a few grams or anything and your lack (i'm assuming) of any disciplinary actions.

WarmCyanide
02-25-2008, 08:27 PM
too chickenshit/afraid to confront you. and that is.. chickenshit. avoid such people. but you had no way of knowing your roommate was like that until this shit went down. hope you continue your studies. good luck.

reminds me of that movie 'scent of a woman'

your life isn't ruined relatively proper. you'll be back up. dont give up. good luck

slugbone
02-25-2008, 09:31 PM
I know you are reading the same thing over and over again from everyone but this is going to do you good because it will help you when it comes to all those sessions you are going to have with the school boards along with johnny law.If you sell you story right you prolly can get out of this with just a few fines and you might be removed from housing for the rest of the year. Something similar happened to my friend with a larger collection of multiple substances, but his grades were close to top notch along with the fact the kid could talk his way out of a murder. He got a few slaps on the wrist along with a suspension of one semester and then went right back into how he was. But then again, maybe this is your wake up call to finally call it quits.

I think everyone is right and you just need to admit to having a problem and make all the efforts you can to get help, start going to meetings start seeing more doctors, maybe even go to a psych, try and blame all this shit on some bad childhood experience that has left you unable to concentrate anymore and although you had the subs you are human and make mistakes. In todays society pity is everything. So long as you can get some group behind you along with a good lawyer you will be able to get through all of this and prolly stay in school. Just make sure you are consistent, because the minute they think you are either lying to them or trying to hide something from them you are going to lose all chances. I wish you a lot of luck, and don't let this kill your spirit. With all your time spent with this shit you should know by now that there is always going to be something that is going to put an end to you peaceful little world. And uh, if you need help taking care of your roommate, i'll be more than happy to make my way out there : ]


yeah i'm wth ashlee maybe we could straighten your roomate out but alas, probably too late.

good advice though just act repentant blah blah and hopefully you can save your bacon at the uni.

please come back and give us updates as you can. i feel for you man

oxycontin
02-25-2008, 10:13 PM
fuck man i am disgusted! your roommate is a mother fucking bitch! why couldn't he come face to face with you and just tell you to get the fuck out of the room......like fuck if he was that mad.....he could have been an asshole too you.....sworn at you......done whatever he wanted...besides RAT you OUT! just take it one step at a time and one day at a time, don't worry about whats going on (i know its easier said then done) but focus on seeing the counsellor and on your schooling. I'm sure if you are open and honest with the higher powers of the school they will let you stay, but you will be on probation. keep us posted and keep away from the h....your education is worth more then a high. take care....


i hope this fucking roomie gets fuckin raped in a dark wooded area by a 6foot6 black male that weighs 340lbs and has a 13inch dank thats fatter then a cucumber!!!!rip his asshole rite the fuck open so his shit will fall out of his ass for the rest of his life....then he will realize what its like when you really "fuck" someone up! (SORRY FOR THE DETAILS) im just mad after reading this guys.....innocent guy....minding his own business not even selling.....gets taken down while getting his education at a fuckin killer uni!


AHHHHH im so fucking pissed off!

Raz
02-26-2008, 01:41 AM
Good luck mate...This is my 2nd post on this and just wanna say Levity and robo are probably the best guys to ask for advice re the schools actions now that shit has hit the fan........

Once again, good luck and never ever panic....use that brain you've got and find the best solution...

reddragon3668
02-26-2008, 06:05 AM
Levity and Robo have been in the academic arena for a long time. Take their advice (no offense to anyone else in that situation, I didn't have time to read the whole thread). Jump through their hoops the best you can and chances are they will keep you around. Especially if you got financial aid... its in their best interest not to make you leave.

The guy who narced you out needs a good lesson in what not to do. Even if he was concerned, he should have spoken to you first. Years ago, I had a friend who was a christian and we worked at a place where we repaired and reworked train cars. The place was filled with industrial welders and they were a rough (but good) lot of guys. My friend smelled pot one day and went to tell the owner.. I begged him not to do it. He put everyone's job in jeopardy... it was everything I could do to get the guy out the gate that day without being really hurt. If the guys wouldn't have liked and respected me, he would have been hauled out of there on a stretcher.

So many people do what they think is right, without ever considering the people they are hurting. I don't advocate violence, but people like that need to learn that its not all about them. Good luck and do let us know how it goes!

kchampagne
02-26-2008, 08:12 AM
Good luck with everything, your life is definately not over, I agree that you are way better off than people out there, get a good lawyer and play the I am sick and need help card with the school.

I remember when I got raided and I was real sick at the time, I reallt thought my life was over, and further more when I was sicker than sick in a jail cell in lyndsay super jail I thought I wanted to die. I look back at these times and think yeah that sucked real real bad worst time of my entire life, but I got through it, and I am stronger for having gone through it!

Also, I know I will never make that mistake of dealing dope out of my house again, I learned a lesson, and all of this I am sure you will too, you will figure out what that lesson is on your own!

I also agree with the statement that was made about karma...he will get his!

Keep your head up!

Kerry

DCBA
02-26-2008, 01:22 PM
what a shitty rat! I would make him pay in a way or another....
Good luck with minimizing the "crash"

antigonemuse
02-26-2008, 02:17 PM
i didnt read through all the posts so you may have got this one but here i go

I would have told them to no you can not search my properity. ask to discuss the situtation outside the room. then ask them to come back with a warrant if they have any reason for one.

in the aftermath. your life isnt ruined. if this is you first offense, and you already sound like you are willing... get your self in intensive outpatient, or some other drug theraphy program, go to meetings, and work like hell now to get sober. 8 bags a day is alot, but it gets alot worse, trust me. most courts will put you through the treatment system before the jail system

peace
good luck