Stupid fucking doctor!

[OxyDust]

My dad has to go in on the 28'th to see his bitch ass doctor for a pill count and a refill on all of his meds! He is prescribed 2/80mg OC's, 5/30mg roxis, and 3/2mg xanax pills a day, among other things (lyrica, neurontin, prosom, etc.) This is the first time he has been called in for a pill count in a long time. To anyone that is unfamiliar with DDD (degenerative disk disease) it is an excruciating disease that leaves you in constant pain 24/7! He has been leaving out 1-2 roxicodones a day for me to use because i am addicted to opiates and have been addicted for a long time (5-6 years)! I feel bad for him but don't know what to do because his doctor is a fucking prick! He (my fathers docter) has a star chart, and once you get two stars he lets you go (what an ass-hole, and my dad already has one star on his chart)! My dad's last doctor was good to him and gave him a lot of painkilling medicine but he ended up pulling a gun on one of his employes for some reason and ended up losing his licence because of it! What should my father do? I have been telling him to find an actual pain doctor to prescribe him medicine rather than a family doctor, but i don't know? What should be his next step??????? He has already had a morphing pump implanted in him but it does not do shit for pain! he wants another "operation" but does not have the money! Please help!??????

I am sorry if this does not make any sense but i am drunk as shit and it's hard to type. sorry!!!!!!

[skank69]

sorry to hear about your dad's problem . i think other than finding a pm doc or maybe a quack doc he might just have to do what alot of us have to do and find some guy on the street corner and pay top doller just to fell well . i hope everything works out for you and your dad good luck you'll need it!

[kingzilla]

Dude not to be an asshole but you say yer Pop is in pain 24/7 and you allow him to give you percs ??? Seems a little wrong bro. I know how parents are as well they will suffer for their kids and go without but when the kids become adults its time to think of them instead of yourself. Sounds more like your pissed because he is gonna be short on pills due to you dipping into the stash.

[OxiContinKing]

Dude not to be an asshole but you say yer Pop is in pain 24/7 and you allow him to give you percs ??? Seems a little wrong bro. I know how parents are as well they will suffer for their kids and go without but when the kids become adults its time to think of them instead of yourself. Sounds more like your pissed because he is gonna be short on pills due to you dipping into the stash.

Umm, he said that his dad leaves him out a couple of roxi's a day, not perc's, put your glasses on bud, and how does your response help the OP? I havent gotten into a shoutin (or typin match, I guess you could say on here) with anyone yet, but your pushin me to the limit, your reply really pissed me off. Take the flames to another forum, we dont like that shit here.

Thanks, and have a good day.

[jdub]

If his pop wants to give him a couple of roxis, more power to him.

[SpecialGuy69]

Your dad needs to prepare for the fact that he may need a new doc in the near future. Just like its easier to find a good job when you are currently employed, its a lot easier to find a good doc while you are still being treated. Here's what to tell your dad to do: make appointments with several pain management docs (or osteopaths) in your area- and at the appointment, make it clear that he isn't there for scripts (this time) and he is currently seeing Dr. X, but is exploring other options.

Then, he can interview the docs, find out what their policies are, how they would treat his pain, check out their offices, etc. Once he finds a doc he likes, he can set an appointment and cancel his relationship with his current doc.

A lot of docs will "consult" with you for cheap if you make it clear up front that you are only there to talk, and not to get prescriptions/treatments.

[kingzilla]

Umm, he said that his dad leaves him out a couple of roxi's a day, not perc's, put your glasses on bud, and how does your response help the OP? I havent gotten into a shoutin (or typin match, I guess you could say on here) with anyone yet, but your pushin me to the limit, your reply really pissed me off. Take the flames to another forum, we dont like that shit here.

Thanks, and have a good day.

Uh... Roxi's and Percs Einstein are oxycodone so maybe you should check yerself. Fact is his Dad already has one strike that Im guessin is for running short and now he is fretting a pill count and admits his Dad gives him 2 pills a day(how many does he snatch besides what his Dad gives him ???). Guess what the Guy who is in pain 24/7 is the one getting fucked. Ya think a better or another Doctor is gonna make a difference ? If you run short cause you have a junkie helping you eat your script then your gonna get dumped by any doctor eventually. As far as helpin how about this...

Keep yer fuckin hands off your Dads medicine ! He needs it where as you are a addict. Sorry but I have less sympathy for a junkie taking advantage of a chronic pain patient. You think its okay to jepordize a chronic pain patients med's because you need to get a high ? Now go ahead and get pissed and argue your point...As far as flamin' I think my advice is sound leave Dads meds alone and his pill count should be fine and there will be no problem. Take Dads meds and his pill count will be fucked and so then will he.

[I-Nod]

The only thing I can think of, as far as constructive advice goes... is perhaps try to find some Roxi's on the street. It will cost a chunk of change, but I'd pawn everything I own to hold onto a script like that!

Hopefully you have your own connects on the side, too... that you can hook up to replace whats missing. Sounds like a far-fetched, hair-brained scheme to pull off - but like I said, I would do a backflip and 2 fist pumps in the air for a script like that.

Sorry I don't have better advice. Tough situation and no easy answer. Maybe YOU could pull a gun on the doctor? :D

[OxiContinKing]

Uh... Roxi's and Percs Einstein are oxycodone so maybe you should check yerself. Fact is his Dad already has one strike that Im guessin is for running short and now he is fretting a pill count and admits his Dad gives him 2 pills a day(how many does he snatch besides what his Dad gives him ???). Guess what the Guy who is in pain 24/7 is the one getting fucked. Ya think a better or another Doctor is gonna make a difference ? If you run short cause you have a junkie helping you eat your script then your gonna get dumped by any doctor eventually. As far as helpin how about this...

Keep yer fuckin hands off your Dads medicine ! He needs it where as you are a addict. Sorry but I have less sympathy for a junkie taking advantage of a chronic pain patient. You think its okay to jepordize a chronic pain patients med's because you need to get a high ? Now go ahead and get pissed and argue your point...As far as flamin' I think my advice is sound leave Dads meds alone and his pill count should be fine and there will be no problem. Take Dads meds and his pill count will be fucked and so then will he.

So you are trying to tell me that percocets and roxicodone are the same thing? Just because they both have oxycodone? I think your the one that needs to be checking yourself, Einstein. And, in my opinion, if his dad wants to hand him roxi's all day every day, then so be it. If he is stealing them from his father, then it would be one thing, but if his father is giving them to him, thats his choice.

And, for the record, what fucking difference does it make to you, a complete stranger. If you were an aunt, uncle, sister, mother, or cousine, then maybe your $.02 would matter, just a little, because you are family. Yet, you, a complete stranger, knowing nothing of the OP or his situation, decided to come on here and bash him? Im seriously not going to go on with this, I dont like arguing over the internet...it's like arguing with a retarded kid, there is no point, but you, my friend, are a fucking twat.

Post helpful information, dont come on here bashing and flamming people. This isnt a forum for that shit.

Thanks, and have a nice day.

**IM DONE HERE**

[OxyDust]

So you are trying to tell me that percocets and roxicodone are the same thing? Just because they both have oxycodone? I think your the one that needs to be checking yourself, Einstein. And, in my opinion, if his dad wants to hand him roxi's all day every day, then so be it. If he is stealing them from his father, then it would be one thing, but if his father is giving them to him, thats his choice.

And, for the record, what fucking difference does it make to you, a complete stranger. If you were an aunt, uncle, sister, mother, or cousine, then maybe your $.02 would matter, just a little, because you are family. Yet, you, a complete stranger, knowing nothing of the OP or his situation, decided to come on here and bash him? Im seriously not going to go on with this, I dont like arguing over the internet...it's like arguing with a retarded kid, there is no point, but you, my friend, are a fucking twat.

Post helpful information, dont come on here bashing and flamming people. This isnt a forum for that shit.

Thanks, and have a nice day.

**IM DONE HERE**

QFT
I don't steal any meds from my father, i'm not that much of a dick! I wish i could just go out and cop some roxis off the street but the only painkillers that i can get are ms-contin and my dad hates morphine (he gets really bad side effects).

[LayinLow]

If his pop wants to give him a couple of roxis, more power to him.

I always agree with you jdub, we must have the same personality. Now if he was stealing the roxi's, it would be way different, but he's not. So jumping on the OP's back because of it is just dumb.

[Hookahed]

He also said his Dad helps him out because he is addicted. Addiction is as much of a disease as Chronic Pain. Take a break there Zilla.

[RxQueen]

OCK.... cool your jets, man.


Umm, he said that his dad leaves him out a couple of roxi's a day, not perc's, put your glasses on bud, and how does your response help the OP? I havent gotten into a shoutin (or typin match, I guess you could say on here) with anyone yet, but your pushin me to the limit, your reply really pissed me off. Take the flames to another forum, we dont like that shit here.

Thanks, and have a good day.

kingzilla didn't flame anyone yet, he just stated his opinion. this response is over the top.



So you are trying to tell me that percocets and roxicodone are the same thing? Just because they both have oxycodone? I think your the one that needs to be checking yourself, Einstein. And, in my opinion, if his dad wants to hand him roxi's all day every day, then so be it. If he is stealing them from his father, then it would be one thing, but if his father is giving them to him, thats his choice.

And, for the record, what fucking difference does it make to you, a complete stranger. If you were an aunt, uncle, sister, mother, or cousine, then maybe your $.02 would matter, just a little, because you are family. Yet, you, a complete stranger, knowing nothing of the OP or his situation, decided to come on here and bash him? Im seriously not going to go on with this, I dont like arguing over the internet...it's like arguing with a retarded kid, there is no point, but you, my friend, are a fucking twat.

Post helpful information, dont come on here bashing and flamming people. This isnt a forum for that shit.

Thanks, and have a nice day.

**IM DONE HERE**

and this response is even worse. the only semi-insulting thing i saw in kingz's post was where he sarcastically called you Einstein & told you to check yourself. NOT enough to warrant this response. he didn't flame or bash the OP... just stated his view of the situation. and his $.02 is worth exactly the same amount as your $.02... the OP posted his dilemna on a public message board, and so was not looking for the opinions of his family. if you want to call people twats, maybe you should go to the flame forum. because that is bashing. and in your own words, "we don't like that shit here... this isn't a forum for that shit."

i can understand feelings about stuff like this being heated, but as far as i see kingzilla stayed rational about stating his opinion. and he made a good point, relevant to the thread. the only good and relevant point you've made so far is that the OP's dad willingly gave him the pills. so do you have any advice or help for the OP? because that's the only reason for you to post anymore in this thread.



to OxyDust.... sorry for the temp hijack of your thread.... now back to your regularly scheduled programming. i'll second the advice that AO gave you. it's time for your dad to start looking for a new doctor, for the day that it becomes necessary.

[sexualhealing]

Uh... Roxi's and Percs Einstein are oxycodone so maybe you should check yerself. Fact is his Dad already has one strike that Im guessin is for running short and now he is fretting a pill count and admits his Dad gives him 2 pills a day(how many does he snatch besides what his Dad gives him ???). Guess what the Guy who is in pain 24/7 is the one getting fucked. Ya think a better or another Doctor is gonna make a difference ? If you run short cause you have a junkie helping you eat your script then your gonna get dumped by any doctor eventually. As far as helpin how about this...

Keep yer fuckin hands off your Dads medicine ! He needs it where as you are a addict. Sorry but I have less sympathy for a junkie taking advantage of a chronic pain patient. You think its okay to jepordize a chronic pain patients med's because you need to get a high ? Now go ahead and get pissed and argue your point...As far as flamin' I think my advice is sound leave Dads meds alone and his pill count should be fine and there will be no problem. Take Dads meds and his pill count will be fucked and so then will he.


1st off mr uneducated....percs are oxycodone w/apap which come in a max of what 10mg/325 apap, usualy u get 5's...

roxis come in 15's n 30s of PURE oxycodone...much diff, much better for long term use as no liver damage from apap...

2nd off, HIS DAD IS GIVING HIM THEM, NOT STEALING. if his dad needed them im sure they wouldnt be offered.

my suggestion and theres a ? with it, is how many pills is he short?? just roxis or xanax? or the oc's too? i would try to find some if its a reasonable amount and either a:hit person back with extras when script day comes or b: pay out of pocket....

but it depends on how short he is....pm me, i have some other ideas that maybe will help you i just dont want this bashin kid looking down on me for having some not so shall i say, honest ideas??


good luck and let me know.

[OxyDust]

Well i have not done any opiates for two days and surprisingly i do not have any physical withdrawals (and i have done at least 30-60 mg's a day for the last 2-3 months, sometimes more)! :)

what would happen if he goes in with half of his pills (1 1/2-2 days worth)? Something tells me that he is not going to have a full three days worth when he goes in on the 28th! How would he go about finding a new doctor and would he want another family doctor or a pain specialist (again, money is a problem here)? I really hope everything goes good on the 28th. all help is appreciated! :D

To SH: I know he is short with all his good meds (roxis, OC's, and xanax)! And i can't just go out and buy more, all i can get is ms-contin 30's and the dude i get them from just moved to a different town! How many posts do i need in order to PM? My guess is he will have almost two days worth, maybe less.

Could he just tell his doctor to write his scripts for 28 days worth instead of 30 days? My dad just started working out at the beginning of the month and said he had to take more because his pain was worse! Would this be something to bring up with the doctor? thanks.....

[Indy]

OCK.... cool your jets, man.

kingzilla didn't flame anyone yet, he just stated his opinion. this response is over the top.



Not to start another argument, but he did heavily imply that the dude was stealing his father's meds on top of the ones he was given, based on absolutely nothing other than "oh you're a junky so you must be stealing them". Not quite a flame per se, but still a bit out of line. Fortunately we don't need to kill someone for going a bit "over the line" at times, because we're adults (most of us, i suspect some users of being underage) and USUALLY see our own mistakes. Let's see if that holds true.

To the TC, make sure you have a backup to this doctor, as doctors DO get arrested, or just stop feeling like they want to treat pain, or the DEA MAKES them stop treating pain, or all sorts of stuff that could go wrong. I know this is kinda what's been posted several times but it really is good advice.

[RxQueen]

Not to start another argument, but he did heavily imply that the dude was stealing his father's meds on top of the ones he was given, based on absolutely nothing other than "oh you're a junky so you must be stealing them". Not quite a flame per se, but still a bit out of line. Fortunately we don't need to kill someone for going a bit "over the line" at times, because we're adults (most of us, i suspect some users of being underage) and USUALLY see our own mistakes. Let's see if that holds true.


he didn't say that till after the first nasty post from OCK. that doesn't make the assumption any less offensive, but kingzilla has the right to say it without anyone jumping in to bash him. and i agree... no killing is necessary here, just a gentle reminder to make every attempt to try civility first. if that doesn't work and some stomping is called for, then i trust most of our members to be able to handle that. in fact, this board works best most of the time when regular members "police" each others' actions. usually it works. although sometimes there are a few that respond better to a gentle prompting by a semi-authoritative figure.

[nick]

I think Kingzilla makes some valid points.Bottom line is that if you really want to help your pops with his meds..........stop taking them.

Just because a loved one offers you something- doesn't mean you have to accept.

As Dorje used to say......learn to score like a righteous junky.

[20Dollarholla]

If your Dad is supposed to have 3 days woth of meds and only has 2 days worth, it probaly isnt going to be a big deal. Doctors (even prick doctors) know that some days pain is worse than others, also there were 31 days in January so if his script was wrote on January 30th he would have a valid reason to be a day short.

I cant believe the family doctor hasnt made your Pops go to a pain management specialist yet. In my experience, family doctors never perscribe high doses of any painkiller. They dont want the DEA on their asses so they refer patients in need of constant pain meds to PM docs.

[Nonphixion]

So you are trying to tell me that percocets and roxicodone are the same thing? Just because they both have oxycodone? I think your the one that needs to be checking yourself, Einstein. And, in my opinion, if his dad wants to hand him roxi's all day every day, then so be it. If he is stealing them from his father, then it would be one thing, but if his father is giving them to him, thats his choice.

And, for the record, what fucking difference does it make to you, a complete stranger. If you were an aunt, uncle, sister, mother, or cousine, then maybe your $.02 would matter, just a little, because you are family. Yet, you, a complete stranger, knowing nothing of the OP or his situation, decided to come on here and bash him? Im seriously not going to go on with this, I dont like arguing over the internet...it's like arguing with a retarded kid, there is no point, but you, my friend, are a fucking twat.

Post helpful information, dont come on here bashing and flamming people. This isnt a forum for that shit.
+1,000 OCking nicely said-not bashing thats fucked up & ppl are here for harm reduction & help/infor,ect, positive things!!! or yo are wrong roxi's and percs are Not the same FYI...
Thanks, and have a nice day.

**IM DONE HERE**

[opiALOVE]

also february only had 28 days, that might help alil. or would that mean he should have more? shit i just confused myself.... either way the shoet month should be considered before an excuse is made.


OCK, no offense bro, but you just posted all that stuff that happened between you and yer g/f, some ppl gave advise, some bashed on you. last i checked it was a free country. i remember you not liking the fact that ppl were stompin ya. others came to yer defense, you shouldnt be so quick to jump down someones throat, besides what do you care what the guy thinks? it didnt even pertain to you. i admit that IMO it was a harsh accusation, nonetheless, it was directed toward sombody else.

[taj]

also february only had 28 days, that might help alil. or would that mean he should have more? shit i just confused myself.... either way the shoet month should be considered before an excuse is made.


OCK, no offense bro, but you just posted all that stuff that happened between you and yer g/f, some ppl gave advise, some bashed on you. last i checked it was a free country. i remember you not liking the fact that ppl were stompin ya. others came to yer defense, you shouldnt be so quick to jump down someones throat, besides what do you care what the guy thinks? it didnt even pertain to you. i admit that IMO it was a harsh accusation, nonetheless, it was directed toward sombody else.

look at the date of the thread/previous posts...OCK was ranting before the gf thing, and the OP's dad was seeing his doctor on Feb. 28th,

this post is a month old

[opiALOVE]

got me there... i didnt look at the date. i wasnt attackin him tho, im kinda fond of OCK, took alotta balls to thread about his g/f problem. i was merely trying to give him a lil peace, lettin hiiim know that it wasnt that bigga deal to get outraged about.

excuse my response to the old thread. i tend to not look at the date, just assuming that ppl dont resurrect old threads all that often. ill pay more attention now, thanks fer lettin me know

[clinton]

this thread is a year old not a month old :p
im sure its been resolved

[opiALOVE]

now im even stupider...

[clinton]

it happens to the best of us

[opiALOVE]

i read that too, i guess if i wasnt on sucha wicked nod i mighta put 2 n 2 together to equal 5.. anyway thanks fer lettin me know, i prolly woulda kept on and kept on and kept on like a damn fool.


that turtles prolly more observant than i am right now.

[losangeleslifer]

Why did that guy bump this thread anyway? With a quote and no post to boot.

[Restharrow]

I did not totally understand the problem:

1. Does he need more meds for pain (partially or completly because he gives some to u)?

or

2. He is going to be short on his pill count?

In either case, I suggest u decline any more of his meds.

Sorry I don't have any magic answer.

edit: I just realized this is old. this problem probably already worked out.

Will

[taj]

this thread is a year old not a month old :p
im sure its been resolved

ooops, I thought I was on top of things...guess I took a little more than I thought:p

[Nonphixion]

I think it was my bad sorry i was dong some searing and came across this, didn't realize the date thing sorry if was my fault... I fell like a jakass now lol, Sorry...

-T

[bronyraur]

As I've said before: check the date BEFORE you post.