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meatkilla
02-23-2008, 12:04 AM
Sorry if this has been posted before. I used the search engine but couldn't find the answer I was looking for. If it is already out there, just go ahead and call me a dumbass and say UTMFSE!! Hehe. That was a joke. I was just prescribed some tramadol 50 mg. Being a fairly moderate opiate user, I was curious what would be a good starting dose for this for some recreational value or is there any recreational value related to tramadol. I hope I didn't break any rules posting this thread. If I did, apologies in advance. Thanks for any help. I also am prescribed klonopin. Just wondering what a good starting dose would be for some recreational value for some tramadol and klonopin. Thanks.

tony78
02-23-2008, 12:22 AM
I have no "professional" advice, but i can give you advice based on my limited personal experience. Tramadol does have limited recreational value, ie you can take a few and cop a "high". Just be careful as too much can cause a seizure. The last time I messed around with it, i believe i took about 200mg and i got a pretty good high. I wouldnt go over 300 - 400mg though. But that's just me. I have very little experience with klonopin, but my friend who loves benzo's likes them more than the ever popular xanax.:)

Chipper Tripper
02-23-2008, 12:22 AM
3 to 4 to get off. If you never taken them try 2 or 3 first. Also, its been said on a few forums that you shouldn't take them at once. take 1 every 20-30 minutes until to you reach your desired dosage.

meatkilla
02-23-2008, 12:38 AM
Yeah, I've taken xanax before and the only thing I got from it was time traveling, i.e. blacking out! The klonopin has really helped with my anxiety and have not time traveled on it. Hehe. :D

Levity
02-23-2008, 01:54 AM
Define "moderate opiate user."

If we know your tolerance, on a mg basis, maybe we can help.

nova67
02-23-2008, 02:44 AM
Ok...first I am a big fan of tramadol...I have been taking it for five years...and am pretty up to date on it. Also I am a vet tech by trade, so I know most of the pharmecutical properties of the drug. no expert...but pretty close.

First we will address the seizure threshold. The seizure threshold for tramadol is 450mgs....but you would have to take 450mgs IN ONE DOSE. I need to say this again...you have to take that amount at ONE time, to have a seizure...and even then it is only a 25% chance. That leaves a whole lot of people NOT having seizures at that dose, but I dont recommend a dose that high right outta the gate anyway.

This drug has a tendency to act like an anti-depressant...therefore you have to kind treat it like one and slowly up your dose until it gets into your system well. Always remember the hand shake test...take your dose wait 30-45 minutes, and then hold your hands up, if they are shaking don't take any more than that dose..if not then you can go up. This helps to show your own personal seizure threshold. NEVER come off of these fast after taking them a long time...that WILL give you a seizure, and the misery of regular opiate WD's. Always do a long slow taper...Or have higher power opiates on hand to wean yourself down.

Now when I first started these, I fiddled with the doses to find what was good for me..but with NOTHING in my system...taking 3 *50mg* pills at ONE time was good to start getting a buzz, but I soon moved to four...four seems like the magic number, and up depending on tolerance.When im really into them I will take four 50mg pills in the AM and repeat that dose around 5-7pm, that is eight pills a day...and no I never had a seizure while taking these...But I did when I came off them too fast...I will explain later.

Always remember to make sure that if you take them before you go to bed, you have a dose for when you wake up. Trying to sleep when in trammie WD's is hell. But they are very tolerable, when you take that last pill in the am, and have something else to help you out.

Please go read the post called "From methadone, to tramadol" it is over in the methadone board..about two pages or so in I have a pretty complete guide to tramadol...and also see my own first post in "I be new here" it is titled "Im New Here<<<<WOW what a shocker" There is also some good beginning pointers on tramadol in there. And an interesting side note...When these are given to guys...it seems like it acts like viagra or desensitizes him...getting him to go longer...Gave it to my old man, and my best friend for her boyfriend...and they just can go forever. but NO more than four at a time...or your dead in the water get my meanin :rolleyes: I hope this helped you out...

Saint
02-23-2008, 04:56 AM
Pfoo Nova, we do keep you busy these days!

Meatkilla: what is your tolerance? Opiatehistory? I came of 25 mgs of methadone and tramadol is just taking the edge of withdrawals.. No buzz at all, not even on 150 mgs. I hope you have a very low tolerance! Enjoy

By the way: you didn't double post but triple post! You acidentally started 3 threads with the same questions. Sometimes it happens when you push the button again, thinking it's not working but then it is... guess the mods will help you out and merge them.

meatkilla
02-23-2008, 08:53 AM
Yeah sorry for the triple post, I just noticed that!!! My computer was acting weird again last night and wouldn't do anything when I hit the submit reply button. Again, sorry mods for the extra work!!! Just chalk another mistake up for the newbie!!! When I say moderate opiate user, I can get a decent buzz off 4 hydros. I've been using 10 mg hydros off and on for 2 + years, with a few roxi 30's here and there, and an occasional OC 80 (like once or twice). So bascially I have a fairly low tolerance I would assume.

born2lose
02-23-2008, 10:06 AM
2-400mg but seriously tramadol sucks

LorTabitha
02-23-2008, 10:32 AM
Tramadol works for some, not for others. It's the one pain med that actually works for my foot pain. (Nothing else touches it or even comes close.)

When I started taking trams many years ago, I would get a buzz from 1-2 pills. Now, I just get some pain relief (which I'm grateful for!)

meatkilla
02-23-2008, 10:58 AM
Yeah, I've been taking trams for a little over a week now, and the pain relief I get from them is actually better than any other opiate I've ever taken. Still searching for that recreational value from it though!!! The addict always comes out!!!

clinton
02-23-2008, 11:01 AM
In my opinion zero because they are worthless

slugbone
02-23-2008, 11:28 AM
Yeah, I've been taking trams for a little over a week now, and the pain relief I get from them is actually better than any other opiate I've ever taken. Still searching for that recreational value from it though!!! The addict always comes out!!!


as far as synthetic opiates go i like tramadol, usually go with 250 mg doeses, plus you can throw in an ambien or tylenol pm, gives a little more pain releif to the buzz

Skeeter
02-23-2008, 12:43 PM
I get a good buzz of tramadol at 100mg. Nothing too fun,but its nice none the less. My DOC is hydro, usually 200mg or so per day.

On a side note, this last week I havent had a single hydro and no WD's either. I think the trammies saved my ass. Ive been on hydro for 2 years +.

Chipper Tripper
02-23-2008, 01:54 PM
200mg of Hydro per day??? thats 10,000mg of APAP. Surely that can't be good, I assume you are doing CWE with them?

eveline
02-23-2008, 03:19 PM
I like tramadol. I can actually feel even one, but usually take 4 (200 mg). The best thing is it lasts a long time, so even if (when) I get distracted and don't feel like lying down for a while, I haven't wasted it. Tramadol is basically all I use at the moment, about once a week, so I don't have too much of a tolerance.

I wonder if as you develop tolerance to the opiate effect, you develop tolerance to the seizure-inducing effect. Probably not. So even if you have a tolerance, don't take ridiculous doses. If it doesn't work it doesn't work, you can't keep moving up in dose like with most opiates. Klonopin is an anticonvulsant (prevents seizures) but will also add to respiratory depression (which causes regular opiate overdose--stopping breathing).

Telling people starting doses is really difficult (probably why you couldn't find a thread on it), so work your way up, even if you end up wasting some feeling nothing.

Skeeter
02-23-2008, 04:04 PM
200mg of Hydro per day??? thats 10,000mg of APAP. Surely that can't be good, I assume you are doing CWE with them?

That would be 10K mg of apap if I were taking 500MG apap pills which is not the case. I take norco which is 325mg of apap which would be 6500 mg of apap I think. I cwe sometimes and others I dont. My liver is in great health. I have regular physicals and blood work.

I do know several people of who take 30-40 vikes a day and no cwe and even they are fine. I doubt that is something that one can carry on with for an extended period of time with no ill effects,BUT I think the APAP warnings are overstated and actually varies person to person. I could be wrong and usally am:D

joshua8608
03-02-2008, 09:01 PM
I used to take a LOT of tramadol, about a year ago when I was trying to quit opioids. I thought it was a perfectly safe and good alternative. At first it was great. It never felt anything like opioids, but it did give a nice optomistic sense of well-being for most of the day. But I would keep getting greedy with it and wanting more, until I was finally at the point of taking 400mg at a time 4 or 5 times a day. Needless to say, at this point, I was taking it just to feel normal, and even then it fell short. Interestingly, I never had a seizure. But, it did leave me tired all the time. I would sleep 16 hours straight if I didn't set an alarm. And also, NO sex drive. I mean, it was just physically impossible.

I was forced to quit when I ran out. It was probably a good thing, but it was a terrible process. There were few physical side effects. I guess my skin was a little sensitive, and I had headaches, but not too bad. However, emotionally was a different story. I have never been so depressed as when I was coming off of tramadol. It literally made me feel like I would NEVER be happy again. Life felt pointless. I felt constant despair combined with extreme apathy. It was a miserable existence that lasted 3 or 4 days, and then I slowly returned to feeling normal (and somewhat happy). I probably would have been fine if I could have gradually cut down instead of running out like that.

But, I never ever want to have to go through that again, nor would I wish it on anyone. So, if you do abuse tramadol, be careful not to run out suddenly. Also, I would advise taking doses no higher than 150 or 200mg....it tends to lose its effectiveness at higher doses, and you just feel numb inside. You also seem to get a tolerance fast with it. The way I understand it, it works partly by inhibiting seretonin and norepinepherine reuptake, similar to some anti-depressants. However, once you get to the point of taking a certain dose several times a day, I think there is only so much serotonin and norepineherine that can be reuptaken (just a theory of mine).

As far as binding to opioid receptors, tramadol only has a slight affinity for mu receptors, and I tend to believe tramadol's pain-relieving and mood-altering properties have little (if anything) to do with mu-receptor activation. For this reason, opioid tolerance does not necessarily mean tramadol tolerance.