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tonyk

02-21-2008, 02:33 AM

OK, here goes! I will in about 32 hrs. be experiencing my very first experience of IVing H! I never thought I would have the opportunity, but thru a twist of fate, it has presented itself! I am no kid and no newbie to opiates. My birthday of next month will bring me to the old age of 50! What a fantastic experience to celebrate! So, wish me luck all! I will be alone in this experience but with very reputable advice. I just can't fuckin' wait!:)

kil092286

02-21-2008, 02:58 AM

Life sucks, mine as well enjoy a few moments of it right? Have fun and start out small as you never know how powerfull the shit is and what your tolerance is like.

betmylife

02-21-2008, 03:01 AM

have fun but be fucking careful man......insuffalating H can be really fun as well.

tonyk

02-21-2008, 03:16 AM

Life sucks, mine as well enjoy a few moments of it right? Have fun and start out small as you never know how powerfull the shit is and what your tolerance is like.
You are absolutely correct! I already have a cup-a-day pod habit with the poppy tea and fortunately this stuff has been already sampled by a reliable friend! I have never had the pleasure of feeling the high of H in my whole life! I am looking forward to it! :D

betmylife

02-21-2008, 03:36 AM

You are absolutely correct! I already have a cup-a-day pod habit with the poppy tea and fortunately this stuff has been already sampled by a reliable friend! I have never had the pleasure of feeling the high of H in my whole life! I am looking forward to it! :D

are you planning on becoming a regular user? cause H rules....and one time can turn into once a week, into once every few days, to once every few hours......its kinda like playing with fire, its fun, and feel good to do something dangerous.....but eventually you can get burned.........Im not saying you will, but the rush of IV good H is like nothing else.....you could also try IV like 2mgs of Dilaudid, thats an amazing rush too....and you know what you are getting......but have fun, and happy B-day.......I would call you an old man, but that would be mean :)......'

what kinda H are you getting? brown powder, white powder, tar? around here the dark brown is the best, powder.....

Raz

02-21-2008, 07:31 AM

You may think me an arsehole for what i am about to say/write.But bcoz of who i am i have to say this.

Please do not go down this Road.Especially not on your own!! All junkie logic tells me your first fix on your ownsome is just bad bad news....

Please just have a chase first, your fisrt experience of H can be really nice.A chase will get you there, nice and nodding, without the dangers of IV...
Once you iv(fix) everything else becomes 2nd best.Nothing will ever be as good.....I have smoked H for 26yrs and NEVER had 1 fix.Did i say Never in 26yrs?! yep, never.....

Some may say" coward its the only way to go."I say, "its very difficult to close that door once you open it.99% of future drug experiences wont come close to that first fix...."

So in effect youll be downgradin all your future drug experiences...As it just wont cut it for a buzz, when you know the effects of fixin.Is that what you want, coz that is what I believe will happen.....

If you have any ? i will be happy to respond...
Please dont do this....Raz

OxyContinuously

02-21-2008, 07:58 AM

tonyk

happy b-day, first of all.

second, whatever route you choose, be careful and responsible and have fun!

later

Dan Steely

02-21-2008, 08:24 AM

When I first started sniffin H I had about a 120mg/day oc habit(to give you some frame of reference). One bag of h sniffed got me pretty high. The second bag ( a couple hours later) sent me to the moon. This was the highest I ever got off opiates and believe me it was plenty high. The dope was probably just ok at best.

What I'm trying to say is that you should probably give sniffin a chance before you start breakin out the apparatus.Sorry to be a nag and have a very happy birthday.

jmorri2nd

02-21-2008, 09:31 AM

Happy Birthday and be careful :D

Woody Bear

02-21-2008, 11:44 AM

I also agree that injecting it first time isn't the best way. Now I've not taken heroin before, and I won't get a chance to until the end of the year. Before I came on this site I was planning on going straight to plugging it, but after reading all the advice from people here, I've changed my mind. They all said that once they tried a stronger route of administration (ROA), that the weaker way just didn't cut it any more.

Also a lot of people said that the highs at the start of their using were the best. So if you start with a weaker ROA like snorting, then move up to smoking, and then to plugging, each time you'll get a boost and a stronger effect. By taking your time with it, you'll learn more about how it feels and be able to appreciate it. But going straight in for IV will just be too much and make everything else second best.

When you got used to heroin, and really want to see what it can do, then try plugging it, it gives you about 80-90% of what IV gives you, including the unique rush. But you won't fuck up your veins and you won't get addicted to the needle. If moving from plugging to IV you might find that the extra efficiency isn't worth the hassle of IV'ing, unsightly track marks and the health risks. But if you go straight to IV, then everything else will seem like a step back.

When I get a chance to try heroin, I want to try it orally, then snorting, then smoking, then plugging. That way I'll be able to know how all of those routes feel, and get an increase in pleasure from each stage. Maybe once after I've been plugging for years I'll try IV once, but it feels too much like self-harm for me to be attracted to that route.

The other thing is that I have plugged other drugs, and I didn't like oral because vomiting would prevent a good trip and they were much weaker. But smoking was not a good route for me because I came up and wasted the intense bit working how to put the pipe down and get comfortable. Plugging it was great because I was able to do it, get cleaned up and then lie down. Once I lay down and got comfortable it hit at least as hard as smoking but it lasted much longer, and with no scorched lungs. So it really is the best route. I've heard from people that IV'd it, but then you come up when the needles in your arm, and have to deal with that when you can't even see properly, so fuck that. Really as an ROA, IV has far more problems to make it worth the 10%-20% extra efficiency over plugging.

Raz

02-21-2008, 12:23 PM

turdkenedy

02-21-2008, 01:08 PM

i just wanna say you may think you have a habit, but IV is a whole different ballpark...

dont do more than half a bag (single dose unite) in your first shot.

good luck.

do some research on how to inject properly, and how to hit a vein and register.

Woody Bear

02-21-2008, 01:13 PM

Sorry, just another 2cents.Correct me anyone if i'm wrong, but chasin smack is the ROA wiv the least risks of overdose for any first time user?!

Maybe the guys wiv chem/biology knowlegde can answer this.But in 26yrs i have never heard or seen anyone OD from chasin.....
That's a good point Raz.

He's right, with chasing, you'd be more likely to fall asleep then to continue to smoke yourself into an overdose. With all of the other routes, it's possible to take too much before you realise it. The Patient Controlled Analgesia devices in hospital are the other one's where it's impossible to overdose on, because the increased doses are small enough and set with time limits on them. But I don't see many of PCA devices being sold on eBay or the street.

So if using variable potency street heroin, from a risk of overdose point of view, chasing is the safest. It's still possible to overdose from smoking, but that's usually when it's combined with alcohol or benzo's as well. Chasing then passing out and vomiting, then choking on it in your sleep is still a risk, but taking so much that you stop breathing altogether is not very likely.

StealSmoke

02-21-2008, 01:14 PM

damn bro, what in the world is posessing you to just up and inject the heroin? especially your first time? I would suggest just snort it, if it's your first time fucking with H itself, regardless how big an opiate habit you've got, half a bag will have you hig has a kite if you sniff it. I've been taking vicodin and oxy's and morphine and fentanyl patches for 5 years altogether at pretty high dosages, and the firs ttime I did H I snorted some heroin I sniffed probaby not even half a bag, more like a third, and man I had never been that high in my life, granted I smoked a half a blunt iwth it, which I would normally smoke the entire blunt, but I couldnt even finish the blunt after sniffing the third of the bag! I was passing out in my car nodding off, came back i nthe house and nodded off on the computer for the rest of the nigh t and went to sleep beautifully. my advice, if it aint broke don't fix it.

sniff it.

Dan Steely

02-21-2008, 06:09 PM

rude

02-21-2008, 07:22 PM

Just because you drink a cup of pod tea a day does NOT mean you have any IV tolerance. They are completely independent of each other.

Friends that were a 100mg hydrocodone a day habit 1st did a 4mg dilaudid and were super high for 6 hours.

You need to be careful. Your friend probably has 10X more tolerance than you at least if hes already tested it. I would start with 1/4 of a bag/baloon whatever. Do a fraction of a pin head just to test it. You can always do the 2nd shot.

I remember when i ate my 1st 10mg methadone. I was sick for 24 hours. I was an opiate rookie and jumped to the pros and I wasnt ready.

The 1st time I did H i barely felt it because I was damn careful. Your friend may encourage you to do a standard dose which for a needle rookie will probably make you puke for 20 mins.

Just be careful and go slow!!!

Enjoy your 1st time---you wont ever have another 1st time---man I would love to be you :P

tonyk

05-17-2008, 12:41 AM

Thank you all for your advice and input and ideas!!! I guess one of the reasons I chose the needle was my experience as a paramedic that I have become very comfortable with IV acess! I have shot a few doses of morphine that way. I did do the 1/2 bag of H for the first hit...and it was nice, but didnt rock me...the rest of the run I did a bag at a time IV very happily. Then done with it for a couple months now. Just the PP tea, which DOES build a tolerance, damn it! At present am waiting for some more H and will ofcourse, still be careful, but I feel comfortable with my little 31 gauge needles that dont even leave a mark! Ofcourse I have the advantage of practice with the pins prior to self inflicting! Again, thanks all!! You showed me a lot of different perspective. Alive and well,and soon to be high.... your TonyK

Woowoo

05-17-2008, 01:03 AM

I snorted a bag a few days ago and really regretted it. Sure I felt it, but I just didn't get off right. I never really feel like I get high if I don't shoot it. Heroin is for the needle and the needle is for heroin. Use responsibly.

chopstix

05-17-2008, 01:20 AM

Just because you drink a cup of pod tea a day does NOT mean you have any IV tolerance. They are completely independent of each other.

Not that he shouldn't be careful, but your statement is entirely false. Oral morphine intake (pod tea+) will absolutely effect diamorph tolerance, no matter the ROA.

Dope is dope, the heroin is simply refined, powdered tea.

clinton

05-17-2008, 01:55 AM

i drink ppt daily and i have cross tolerance when it comes to pills,wouldnt opiate tolerance increase no matter what the opiate you use is?

RxQueen

05-17-2008, 06:55 AM

yes, opiates is opiates. all different in certain ways, but they attach to the same receptors.

cbone

05-17-2008, 04:22 PM

Be careful! wouldnt recommend IV heroin to someone who isnt already addicited its nothing to mess around with the needle is very hard to kick.... i just hate to see someone get involved in this shit, but you are an oldtimer and seems like you have experience so im sure you know what your getting into good luck, and stay safe