fun fent sad sick

[skank69]

i was just wondering what do you use in place of your fent after you smoked all of your patch's in three days what keeps you well ?

[Papa Verine]

Another opiate/opioid. That's about it for me...

[Princess]

I usually go with high doses of oxy or morphine for the first 5 days, then slow down from there. If I don't have oxy or morphine, I start on high methadone doses and go down from there.

I've ended up in the hospital twice from not taking *proper* doses to combat fent w/d's. Not fun.

[skank69]

I usually go with high doses of oxy or morphine for the first 5 days, then slow down from there. If I don't have oxy or morphine, I start on high methadone doses and go down from there.

I've ended up in the hospital twice from not taking *proper* doses to combat fent w/d's. Not fun.
ya fent w/d is'nt very much fun if you dont mind me asking what do they do for you at the hospital and were'nt you worryed about them calling your doc for runing out early and getting cut off

[Princess]

ya fent w/d is'nt very much fun if you dont mind me asking what do they do for you at the hospital and were'nt you worryed about them calling your doc for runing out early and getting cut off

I have NEVER told them I ran out early. The first time was mine and my doctor's fault. It's a long story..
But that first time they only gave me a ton of IV fluids and clonidine. They let me suffer in the hopital for 3 fucking days, strapped down screaming. FUN. (even though my doctor KNEW I wasn't wearing it and he was pissed at the ER docs).

The 2nd time I said I had been running a fever and took it off because I was scared (I did have the flu, but no fever). The 2nd time, I got IV fluids and some good shit through the picc line. This also wasn't the only reason I went to the ER. My kidney was acting up and I do have a history of kidney problems.

I would NEVER tell them I ran out early.

[skank69]

i've ever gone only a couple of days i use lots of oxy's and to help sleep i'll use about 3or 400mgs of seroquel a night it all helps but just barely. it gets very costly to keep up . lol :rolleyes:

[Papa Verine]

I can hear Skank's wheels turning right now... There's a little mouse running around a wheel real fast under his skull... "Can I go to the ER with some GRAND story of excruciating pain and get..."

Easy Skank, I'm just fuckin with ya'. I know because I've been there and done the same shit... I hope you DO get what ya need to stay well in between visits, I really do!!!

[skank69]

I can hear Skank's wheels turning right now... There's a little mouse running around a wheel real fast under his skull... "Can I go to the ER with some GRAND story of excruciating pain and get..."

Easy Skank, I'm just fuckin with ya'. I know because I've been there and done the same shit... I hope you DO get what ya need to stay well in between visits, I really do!!!
ha ha i try i try :D

[SpecialGuy69]

you smoke 40 100mcg patches in 3 days? That has to be a record.

Dude, you are in for some fucking AGONY if you run out!

[Princess]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
hahaha (that would be impossible)

I thought we were bad....

[skank69]

you smoke 40 100mcg patches in 3 days? That has to be a record.

Dude, you are in for some fucking AGONY if you run out!
i got some more today i'm going to start work'in on come down a little this shit is crazy .i thought w/d from oxy's was bad some poeple will never know

[samsong]

pods have worked for me very well for similar fent w/ds--they won't get you high most likely but they keep the w/ds away--just keep eating 1 at a time, wating 30 minutes, eat another one, etc until you feel well

[Inspektahdek]

you smoke 40 100mcg patches in 3 days? That has to be a record.

Dude, you are in for some fucking AGONY if you run out!


wow. you have now taken my crown from me in fentage king :D wow, unbelievable

[Uncle Wiggly]

Hi Skank, I hope you don't think I'm being nosy but what exactly is your diagnosis which enables you to get so many 100Mcg Fentanyl patches per month? I remember asking you once and you said you weren't terminal. Are these patches obtained legally or by another means? I believe you said you are scripted 40 100Mcg patches per month. Plus you seem to get scripted extras when you run out early - so-to-speak. Your doc must be great! Is all that correct? I've been very curious ever since I read about this. Thanks a lot.

[skank69]

Hi Skank, I hope you don't think I'm being nosy but what exactly is your diagnosis which enables you to get so many 100Mcg Fentanyl patches per month? I remember asking you once and you said you weren't terminal. Are these patches obtained legally or by another means? I believe you said you are scripted 40 100Mcg patches per month. Plus you seem to get scripted extras when you run out early - so-to-speak. Your doc must be great! Is all that correct? I've been very curious ever since I read about this. Thanks a lot.
hi uncle wiggly its allright to be nosy thats how we can help .i have chronic back pain due to some disks thats enoperable .i get 60 100mcg patch's per month i allways run out early just cause they dont stick on to well .she does'nt give me anything for BTP but she wont see me go W/O anything i'm glad that she's so helpfull but some times i cant get a hold of her for a few days so i'll have to use other things to get by and that gets a little pricey

[Papa Verine]

hi uncle wiggly its allright to be nosy thats how we can help .i have chronic back pain due to some disks thats enoperable .i get 60 100mcg patch's per month i allways run out early just cause they dont stick on to well .she does'nt give me anything for BTP but she wont see me go W/O anything i'm glad that she's so helpfull but some times i cant get a hold of her for a few days so i'll have to use other things to get by and that gets a little pricey

Holy Shit, that's A lot of Fent!!!

Skank, you should be very careful. If, for some reason, you had to switch doctors, you could end up getting an abrupt reduction in pain meds. Why your doctor is giving you so many fent patches a month is beyond me and will most likely be just as unbelievable to your new doctor!!!

I'm not saying I don't believe you, I just wouldn't want to hear of you having to kick a habit like that! It makes me cringe just thinking about it. I'm trying to look out for ya'

[Uncle Wiggly]

Holy Shit, that's A lot of Fent!!!

Skank, you should be very careful. If, for some reason, you had to switch doctors, you could end up getting an abrupt reduction in pain meds. Why your doctor is giving you so many fent patches a month is beyond me and will most likely be just as unbelievable to your new doctor!!!

I'm not saying I don't believe you, I just wouldn't want to hear of you having to kick a habit like that! It makes me cringe just thinking about it. I'm trying to look out for ya'

Hey Skank, Yeah I remember talking to you about this once before and I'm still worried about you. I've got to be honest. You're the first person I've ever heard of that's getting that much Fentanyl a month. Your doc isn't helping you. You may think she is but I can't see this going on forever. I realize things aren't the same in Canada as over here but that's a hell of a lot of Fentanyl. Seriously man - where do you go from here? You should talk to you doc about tapering down while she's still in practice. I'm not trying to make you freak-out but even over yonder that's just not responsible and you're the one who's ultimately going to suffer. I really hope you can get some help.

[skank69]

Hey Skank, Yeah I remember talking to you about this once before and I'm still worried about you. I've got to be honest. You're the first person I've ever heard of that's getting that much Fentanyl a month. Your doc isn't helping you. You may think she is but I can't see this going on forever. I realize things aren't the same in Canada as over here but that's a hell of a lot of Fentanyl. Seriously man - where do you go from here? You should talk to you doc about tapering down while she's still in practice. I'm not trying to make you freak-out but even over yonder that's just not responsible and you're the one who's ultimately going to suffer. I really hope you can get some help.
i just got ot say thanks to all you .i have to taper down but hows that going to be on the pain level . you think if i go down it will still help me or will i have to grin and bare it . i just dont know and i dont want to be in pain.

[Uncle Wiggly]

i just got ot say thanks to all you .i have to taper down but hows that going to be on the pain level . you think if i go down it will still help me or will i have to grin and bare it . i just dont know and i dont want to be in pain.

Hey Skank, I'm glad you see the need to taper down. Has your PM doc ever talk to you about an Intrathecal Pump? I don't know if it's the right thing for your particular type of injury. But it's one of a few possible answers. I remember posting to you and saying that pretty soon your tolerance is going to go through the roof. Shit it's probably there already. I've got several things going on and I'm doing great with 125Mcg of Fentanyl every two days and some BT meds. I think your doc is just trying to erase all of your pain. I can still feel some of the pain from my physical problems(read my profile) but it's down to the point that I can get on with my life. I'm able to work, do things with my family and have a semi-normal life. I'll admit I have an unusual job.(read my profile)

I honestly believe your doc is over-medicating you. Try to imagine your life five years from now if you have any doubts. Another answer may be to go to another PM doc and tell him/her about your current situation. Tell him your concerns and see if he's willing to help you taper down to a manageable dose of meds. I know you said somebody ratted you out to your doc, but taking away your BT meds and putting you on so much Fentanyl doesn't make any sense. You could just as easily be diverting some of your patches. Like I said - try to imagine where you'll be five years from now. At the rate this docs got you going I don't see you being in a very good spot.

I'm not coming down on you. It's every Opi's dream to find a doc that prescribes like yours. But the reality of it is harsh. She may end up loosing her license and what-ever but you're going to be the one with the hurt-on. I'm not trying to scare you but you should really think about doing something now, when you have options, as opposed to later - when you may be under extreme pressure. Take care and post up with any thoughts.

[405FREEWAY]

Wow, this is great advice uncle wiggly is giving you skank. I mean it really is scary, you are on the top of the opiate ladder, there is no where to really go from 60 100mike patches a month??? WOW, that is a recipe for disaster... I dont want to sound like i know you, or your situation, or your pain level, no body can make judgements like that untill they walk in your shoes, but be carefull!! If this doc, is prescribing this liberally to other patients, she/ he really might not be in practice much longer... I think the dea/or state medical board will catch on eventually if 1000 fent patches go out to he/she patients a month. If you had to see another doctor, they could easilty put you on 20 patches a mont?? or less???? Then you are really screwed....
Just my 2 cents, good LUCK~

[skank69]

well you know swim his friends like patch's to. swim's friends think by useing the patch's they can get off the oxy's and have a somewhat normal life. swim know's how it feels to loose everything he's got to a bad oxy addiction and does'nt mind helping out a friend or two getting there life back . so things are'nt as bad as they look but still not the greatest.

[Princess]

I totally agree with Uncle Wiggs here. That is an insane amount of fent. It's only downhill from here.
I love my fentanyl, but I think even I would be scared if I had someone willing to prescribe me THAT much of it. Hell, I worry every month as it is that something crazy could happen and I would have to go without my 15 patches a month.. I can't even imagine being taken off his amount. Not to mention the future as UW said... where do you go from here?

VERY scary.

[skank69]

I totally agree with Uncle Wiggs here. That is an insane amount of fent. It's only downhill from here.
I love my fentanyl, but I think even I would be scared if I had someone willing to prescribe me THAT much of it. Hell, I worry every month as it is that something crazy could happen and I would have to go without my 15 patches a month.. I can't even imagine being taken off his amount. Not to mention the future as UW said... where do you go from here?

VERY scary.
your right i live in fear that i'll go in to an appt one day and she'll say sorry no more

[Hookahed]

That's why you need to taper down now. As others have said what if she loses her license? I would set up an appt with her and explain that you want her help tapering off the fent while staying as pain free as possible. I would think less fent and more/some IR something for BT pain. If she's not willing to help see another Doctor and explain situation to them. Obviously you can't go on like this.

[Uncle Wiggly]

your right i live in fear that i'll go in to an appt one day and she'll say sorry no more

First off, I understand what you mean about your friend helping out his friends. But it's not helping you. I was reading one of your posts and you were talking about your wife being worried about how much medication you're taking. Well I hate to take sides, but she's right. You've got children and a wife - right? I don't want to sound like a broken-record but try to imagine even two years from now. What's going to be left of you for your family. I'm not trying to tell you how to live your life. The only reason I'm saying any of this is because I want you to have a life that's worth living. There's nothing wrong with getting pain medication. There's nothing wrong with having some fun with it. But, if I've read your posts correctly, you're taking so much Fentanyl that you're not even feeling it if you "party" a bit. At least that's what one of your posts said.

I know Canada doesn't have the same kind of medical system as the States but I do know they monitor their docs. All I'm trying to ask is to start taking back control of your life before something happens and you don't have options left. The way your doc prescribes she could be out of business the next time you go for a refill. I know you're thinking maybe I'm nuts but it's happened to me. I told you about that - remember? You seem to be a nice person and I bet your wife and kids are nice as well. You've been around long enough to know that nothing this good is going to last. Even if it does - you won't. You're on an extremely high dose of the most potent prescription CII. There's no-where to go but down. I don't want to see that happen to you. You could at least just talk to another doc. You don't even have to give out names if you're afraid. You need to do something while the ball is still in your court. Take care and stay cool.

[Princess]

Uncle Wiggly..I'm not going to quote your post... but I totally agree with you on this.
Something's got to give.

[SynthMorph]

Wow, that's a lot of fentanyl, who's you doc? lol j/k

[Levity]

That dosage redefines statrospheric.
Do be careful...

If you ever find yourself doc-less, you'll be redefining another word.
Fucked.

[skank69]

First off, I understand what you mean about your friend helping out his friends. But it's not helping you. I was reading one of your posts and you were talking about your wife being worried about how much medication you're taking. Well I hate to take sides, but she's right. You've got children and a wife - right? I don't want to sound like a broken-record but try to imagine even two years from now. What's going to be left of you for your family. I'm not trying to tell you how to live your life. The only reason I'm saying any of this is because I want you to have a life that's worth living. There's nothing wrong with getting pain medication. There's nothing wrong with having some fun with it. But, if I've read your posts correctly, you're taking so much Fentanyl that you're not even feeling it if you "party" a bit. At least that's what one of your posts said.

I know Canada doesn't have the same kind of medical system as the States but I do know they monitor their docs. All I'm trying to ask is to start taking back control of your life before something happens and you don't have options left. The way your doc prescribes she could be out of business the next time you go for a refill. I know you're thinking maybe I'm nuts but it's happened to me. I told you about that - remember? You seem to be a nice person and I bet your wife and kids are nice as well. You've been around long enough to know that nothing this good is going to last. Even if it does - you won't. You're on an extremely high dose of the most potent prescription CII. There's no-where to go but down. I don't want to see that happen to you. You could at least just talk to another doc. You don't even have to give out names if you're afraid. You need to do something while the ball is still in your court. Take care and stay cool.

what would be a good BTP med that would work even if tapered down to 2 100mcg patch's

[SynthMorph]

Only thing you're gonna be able to feel at those doses is probably methadone.

[Uncle Wiggly]

what would be a good BTP med that would work even if tapered down to 2 100mcg patch's

Hi Skank, I recently switched from Methadone to Fentanyl. Normally I wouldn't suggest Methadone to anybody as a long-term pain management med, but that and another short -term med for BT pain may be one way to go. The only reason I suggest this is Methadone may be the only way you can safely taper down to the point where you can be on two patches every-other-day. There are many short term BT meds. That's something only you and your PM doc would be able to work out.

I'm not a big fan of Methadone but that's how I feel personally. Many people find Methadone to be an excellent long term pain reliever. When I say that I don't care for it - that's just me talking. I had some long-term use issues with it. It is, however, a very effective pain med. I would be very interested to hear what your PM doc suggests. The first few days of lowering your Fent intake may be rough and I would think your PM doc will be monitoring you closely. I really do think if you get on a reasonable amount of meds you are going to start feeling better than you think. It will probably be like getting out of a fog. Let me know what happens when you talk to her or if you decide to see another PM doc. Take care and good luck.

[skank69]

Hi Skank, I recently switched from Methadone to Fentanyl. Normally I wouldn't suggest Methadone to anybody as a long-term pain management med, but that and another short -term med for BT pain may be one way to go. The only reason I suggest this is Methadone may be the only way you can safely taper down to the point where you can be on two patches every-other-day. There are many short term BT meds. That's something only you and your PM doc would be able to work out.

I'm not a big fan of Methadone but that's how I feel personally. Many people find Methadone to be an excellent long term pain reliever. When I say that I don't care for it - that's just me talking. I had some long-term use issues with it. It is, however, a very effective pain med. I would be very interested to hear what your PM doc suggests. The first few days of lowering your Fent intake may be rough and I would think your PM doc will be monitoring you closely. I really do think if you get on a reasonable amount of meds you are going to start feeling better than you think. It will probably be like getting out of a fog. Let me know what happens when you talk to her or if you decide to see another PM doc. Take care and good luck.

well thanks but the meth i out of the question just cause i would have to drive 100 miles a day round trip to get it and that would cost me 40 to 50 bucks a day in gas not to menstion the time so is there any kind of drug that i should as my doc for that would help please tell me !! thanks

[Uncle Wiggly]

well thanks but the meth i out of the question just cause i would have to drive 100 miles a day round trip to get it and that would cost me 40 to 50 bucks a day in gas not to menstion the time so is there any kind of drug that i should as my doc for that would help please tell me !! thanks

Hi, I'm really glad you posted up again. I don't know about the laws in Canada but in the States "done can be prescribed for pain management as well as for addiction. I'm pretty sure you can ask your doc about it. It can't be that much different over there. To be honest, Methadone is an excellent long-term analgesic. Plus, the amount of Fentanyl you're using is so high that 'done mat be the only thing that doesn't make you sick and will still help with your pain. I know you're probably scared to go off those patches but something's got to give before you do. I'm not bitching at you I want to see you have a longer life - honest! I know I've said this before but sit down and try to imagine where you're going to be, not five but, two years from now. Please ask your doc about changing you to Methadone. If you want, you can ask her about tapering until you're to the point where you can use two patches without any W/D. If she says she's not allowed to do that, ask her what she recommends.

I had read in another one of your posts where you said you put the patches on the same four spots every time you change them. I have to let you know that your skin is going to get as thin and as fragile as paper. That's what I meant when I first posted to you and said you were going to run out of real-estate to put the patches on. Maybe your wife could stick a couple on you back every-other time you change them. When do you see your doc again? Post up and let us know what she says. Take care and stay well.

[skank69]

Hi, I'm really glad you posted up again. I don't know about the laws in Canada but in the States "done can be prescribed for pain management as well as for addiction. I'm pretty sure you can ask your doc about it. It can't be that much different over there. To be honest, Methadone is an excellent long-term analgesic. Plus, the amount of Fentanyl you're using is so high that 'done mat be the only thing that doesn't make you sick and will still help with your pain. I know you're probably scared to go off those patches but something's got to give before you do. I'm not bitching at you I want to see you have a longer life - honest! I know I've said this before but sit down and try to imagine where you're going to be, not five but, two years from now. Please ask your doc about changing you to Methadone. If you want, you can ask her about tapering until you're to the point where you can use two patches without any W/D. If she says she's not allowed to do that, ask her what she recommends.

I had read in another one of your posts where you said you put the patches on the same four spots every time you change them. I have to let you know that your skin is going to get as thin and as fragile as paper. That's what I meant when I first posted to you and said you were going to run out of real-estate to put the patches on. Maybe your wife could stick a couple on you back every-other time you change them. When do you see your doc again? Post up and let us know what she says. Take care and stay well.
see here if you go on the meth the only way is to go to a clinic witch is far away from me and they treat you like your a crimanal you have to piss test 2 times a week my family doc can't scribe any of the done only the meth clinic's doc can and to get any carry's it would take 6 months to get a weeks worth and you have to be clean of everything else . it would be nice to have to family doc give it to me so that leave's me still fuck'ed

[Princess]

Skank~ Are you sure a family doc can't prescribe methadone for pain relief? Man, that SUCKS.

I agree with Uncle Wiggly and I was going to also tell you to get on methadone. I'm also on fentanyl, but for me personally methadone is right up there with fentanyl. Maybe ask your doctor, just in case he/she can prescribe it for pain?

[skank69]

Skank~ Are you sure a family doc can't prescribe methadone for pain relief? Man, that SUCKS.

I agree with Uncle Wiggly and I was going to also tell you to get on methadone. I'm also on fentanyl, but for me personally methadone is right up there with fentanyl. Maybe ask your doctor, just in case he/she can prescribe it for pain?
anything you would suggest that would work do you think i should ask her for some dillies. do you think that there strong enough like 8mgs

[Princess]

Skank~ I really don't know any break-thru med that would work on top of the amount of Fent you use.

As UW said, methadone would be a good switch. It works great for pain and I don't have fent withdrawls when I switch from fent to 'done.

Maybe someone else has an idea...but on TOP of all that fent you use, I don't know anything that'll work for break-thru. Sorry.

[Uncle Wiggly]

Hi Skank, One of the things I've been wondering - Is your doc a Certified Pain Specialist or is she your family Doctor? The reason I ask is I just finished searching the use of Methadone for pain management in Canada on Google. It says, in a document from the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario, That any licensed Physician in Canada can apply for an exemption and will be allowed to prescribe Methadone for pain management. It also goes on to say that most all Pain Management Specialists have applied for and obtained this exemption status. So, if you doc is a Pain Specialist she probably has this exemption. Now of she's not a pain specialist she probably doesn't have much of a clue as to the position she's put you in. If that is the case you need to seek out a Certified Pain Specialist and get some help. I really want to help you but I don't know how much more I can offer. I've given you all the information you need. Now you've got to do the rest. If you're really happy like you are now - that's your business. But, you've made it sound like this isn't what you want. I really hope it works out for you.

[skank69]

Hi Skank, One of the things I've been wondering - Is your doc a Certified Pain Specialist or is she your family Doctor? The reason I ask is I just finished searching the use of Methadone for pain management in Canada on Google. It says, in a document from the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario, That any licensed Physician in Canada can apply for an exemption and will be allowed to prescribe Methadone for pain management. It also goes on to say that most all Pain Management Specialists have applied for and obtained this exemption status. So, if you doc is a Pain Specialist she probably has this exemption. Now of she's not a pain specialist she probably doesn't have much of a clue as to the position she's put you in. If that is the case you need to seek out a Certified Pain Specialist and get some help. I really want to help you but I don't know how much more I can offer. I've given you all the information you need. Now you've got to do the rest. If you're really happy like you are now - that's your business. But, you've made it sound like this isn't what you want. I really hope it works out for you. well uw i got to go see her in the mornning she told me before (i guess before they changed the methadone system here) that she used to perscribe methadone for pain . she has even menstioned it to me a couple of times that she thought it would be a good thing for me to try out . so with out telling her i went on it 2 years ago for 5 weeks i got up to 65ml and the only thing that it did for me is it got me down from 22 oc 20's a day to 8 other than that it did nothing but cost me i had to quit a good truck driveing job cause the clinic was open from 9 to 5 and to go and get it it would take me 4hrs round trip i was on the verge of looseing everything . i had to go back to the pills and lucky enough i got my old job back . i'm going to ask for a strong bt med and taper my self down i was allso thinking that xanax will help . i wish that the done was'nt all governed up like it is then alot of poeple around here could get some help . so wish me luck dude i'll need it!!

[colkraig]

a little to nosey.

[Princess]

a little to nosey.

Who? What? Did I miss something?? :)

[BBgunnedTheEagle]

If he did smoke 10 100mcg patches in a day wouldn't that be better than 1 a day for 10 days as far as w/d?

[Nate]

Skank I think you have been misinformed about alot of information you are giving. I am just gathering up a few sources so we have no problems getting the FACTS straight.

Just for the sake of all those reading, a few points need to be cleared up about how things work up here.

I really feel sorry for you if you ever need more pain relief...60 100mcg patches a month, good luck ever getting pain relief from anything else.

[Princess]

If he did smoke 10 100mcg patches in a day wouldn't that be better than 1 a day for 10 days as far as w/d?

I seriously doubt someone can smoke TEN 100mcg/h fent patches in ONE day. That's my opinion...

As far as fent w/ds..everybody's different but for me, personally, I'll get withdrawls from using one day. Only drug I've ever used that caused me such dependence.

NATE! Thank you! I totally forgot you are in Canada...maybe you have some ideas on his methadone issue?...

[skank69]

Skank I think you have been misinformed about alot of information you are giving. I am just gathering up a few sources so we have no problems getting the FACTS straight.

Just for the sake of all those reading, a few points need to be cleared up about how things work up here.

I really feel sorry for you if you ever need more pain relief...60 100mcg patches a month, good luck ever getting pain relief from anything else.
no i dont need more i need a replacement to help me get down to like say 1 patch every 72 hrs . and there dose'nt seem like there's much that would help me taper off here thanks for the input man .if you have any suggestion please say .

[skank69]

I seriously doubt someone can smoke TEN 100mcg/h fent patches in ONE day. That's my opinion...

As far as fent w/ds..everybody's different but for me, personally, I'll get withdrawls from using one day. Only drug I've ever used that caused me such dependence.

NATE! Thank you! I totally forgot you are in Canada...maybe you have some ideas on his methadone issue?...
i have to clear up this ten patch's in a day it was 30 patch's in 5 days .i just used that in my first post as an example cause most of you who get the patch's only get 10 to 20 per monthand some of you can smoke them in 3 days and then i wanted to know how you all got by .cause i could'nt amagine going all month with nothing . sorry for the missunderstanding :rolleyes:

[SpecialGuy69]

skank- first off, fill your next script with mylans. Then you can start tapering by cutting like 10% off of one patch and not using it. In 2 days, cut 25% off of one patch. Keep increasing the amount you cut off until you get down to 3, then 2, etc etc. It should be relatively easy (compared to an oxy taper) since you really CANT abuse the mylans short of chewing them, which pretty much sucks after having smoked em.

Hope this helps.

[skank69]

skank- first off, fill your next script with mylans. Then you can start tapering by cutting like 10% off of one patch and not using it. In 2 days, cut 25% off of one patch. Keep increasing the amount you cut off until you get down to 3, then 2, etc etc. It should be relatively easy (compared to an oxy taper) since you really CANT abuse the mylans short of chewing them, which pretty much sucks after having smoked em.

Hope this helps.
I can smoke the mylan's thougth the extraction process and i find that its not easy to stop chewing them

[SpecialGuy69]

I can smoke the mylan's thougth the extraction process and i find that its not easy to stop chewing themwell just give up then, why even try?

either make yourself do it or switch to methadone.

[samsong]

Try listening to AO, Skank--it can be done and this is perhaps the best way to stop smoking. I have been able to effectively taper down smoked fent prior to 2 surgeries because I didn't want to go into hopsital with huge fent tolerance and knowing I would not get refills for quite a while after those surgeries; I went back to smoking the gel but that is only cuase the opporunity presented itself, but the taper was successful both times by using the chewing method instead of smoking. I did also use pods to help with the inital w/ds but those were very eas to taper down with as well and helped the fent taper also. Good luck man