Inspektahdek
02-10-2008, 10:09 AM
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>> This doctor you speak of is one of the FEW with this mindset. Most doctors
>> will NOT prescribe you any decent drugs if you speak of a past history of
>> drug abuse. The thinking is "well, he used to use heroin, he only wants these
>> valiums to get fucked up on".
>What about my friend who got a methadone script for depression?
He's a very lucky guy.
Same doctor, by any chance?
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>Anyway .. I welcome additions to this .. everything in here is based upon my
>friend of a friends experiences .. wait, no, the truth is I tried all this
>MYSELF .. yes netFeds-a-lurking, I PhreeX have DEFRAUDED doctors and
>ILLEGALLY obtained drugs!
Heh. And I've got the convictions to go with it...
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>Basicly, theres a few types of doctors -
>The first type, is the "I'm gonna be the cause of the end of all drug abuse"
>type .. these are the doctors that are the tight asses that prescribe a 3
>days supply of T3 after a major operation, since they don't want to
>contribute to us nasty drugs users habbits
>The second type, is the "You want it? You got it! No injuries? No problem!"
>By far the BEST! This type is a bit hard to find, but if you do yer set fer
>life (or until the doctor is busted). Back when I lived in Cocoa, Florida,
>there was a local walk-in medical clinic. One of the doctors (Dr. Wrigly) was
>this type of doctor .. you could bounce into his office, say something to the
>extent of "um .. yeah .. back hurts .. percocet please" and *BAM* in your
>hand you held a script for percocets .. of chourse you had to pay for this
>"legit medical service" .. usually a cash payment of about $25. Finally,
>after he had been doing this for YEARS, the DEA found out what half of Cocoa
>knew, he was handing out scripts for anything to anyone, as a result he was
>busted (he is now in jail). Sucks .. he was a cool doctor .. now that he is
>gone I find my self having fewer lower back injuries .. go figure
Here, it helps to seek out Doctors with addictions of their own.
Alcoholics,
sex addicts, doctors who understand what it's like to want, to *need* as
badly as we do.
There are a lot more of these about than you'd expect. I've seen
estimates that as many as 10% of doctors suffer from a substance
abuse problem. Mind you, if they have a prescription drug problem,
your chances decrease because they dont want to draw attention to
their own prescribing patterns.
>Now, a little bit on WHAT you can get...
>First, there are some differn't "schedules" of drugs -
>CI - FULLY ILLEGAL drugs, with NO accepted medical use. Examples are MDMA
>("ecstasy"), heroin, LSD, etc... DO *NOT* even talk of these things!
>CII - VERY CONTROLED drugs with SOME accepted medical use. Examples are
>Dilaudid (semi-synthetic heroin), morphine, percocet, etc.. These are *HARD*
>to obtain, but possible. Presrciptions for *ANY* CII drug *MUST* be written
>on special water-marked pads with DEA #'s and doctor/paitent information.
In the UK, they are called CD (Controlled drug) scripts, and although
they are the same as any other NHS script, they have to be written
differently. Amounts must be written in words and numbers. Dates must
be written by hand. This very fact draws the doctor's attention that
they aren't writing for just any drug.
I used to do it solely for one drug in this category, a drug called
Diconal. I often would get a doctor to agree to write, but he'd
just write a regular script without observing the CD regulations.
If this happened, the pharmacist would refuse to fill it (the
law prevented them from doing so.) So you had the dilemma of
deciding whether to ask him to write it out properly, thus drawing
his attention to the fact that it was a CD, in which case he may
well tear it up and offer you something else, or of taking it
and having the pharmacist call him and ask him to amend it.
And he might still tear it up again, but at least that way you
don't come across as an expert on script writing.
Unfortunately, they've changed the law since, and Diconal now
has the same status as heroin, ie, a GP can only prescribe it to
an addict if he has a special license from the Home Office. And
the Home Office don't feel it's an appropriate drug for the
management of addiction, so that game is pretty much up now.
>CIII, CIV, etc.. these are like Valium, Xanax and the other drugs that are
>not really hard to get
Indeed. Here, most doctors will give any of these things away for the
asking, basically. With the possible exception of Temazepam. You
might have to see a couple of doctors before you find one, but
basically nobody would have any problem getting buprenorphine,
dihydrocodeine, or any of the benzodiazapines, and you'll also find
that a growing number of GP's are happy to prescribe methadone mixture
to maintain their addict patients, provided you aren't receiving a
script for it elsewhere.
>*) Be realistic, no doctor is going to believe you were on 4mg Dilaudid for
>your headaches. Don't try to get something thats obviously out of your
>reach ... namely strong narcotics. While "back pain" or "migrain (sp?)
>headaches" may get you some hydrocodone (maybe even oxycodone) its best
>NOT to push it.
I used to use both of these lines in my quest for Diconal, and both
of them worked for me regularly. Bear in mind though, that I haven't
been active since the 70's, and the scam was widely regarded as being
burned out even then. The advantage of both of these conditions is
that they are very hard to disprove, so if the doctor decides to send
you for further tests, they can't disconfirm your account of your
pain.
One woman I knew tried to run the scam claiming cervical cancer.
However, all that it got her was an internal examination and a
bunch of distalgesic. The doc just couldn't find any evidence
of a tumour, basically.
>*) If the doctor suspects you are trying to simply scam drugs, you will
>probably be turned away with NOTHING! There is also a chance a note will
>be made in your file .. this happened to me in Orlando, I pushed it to far
>and tried to go from some Vicodin to Percocet, the doctor basicly got me
>to talk a little to much .. as a result I lost the Vics *AND* a note was
>put in my file "This paitent has attempted to obtain narcotics for
>recreational use, please do NOT prescribe him any blah blah blah..."
And I don't know about in the USA, but here in the UK the local
health authority circulates descriptions and MO's of known script
blaggers.
>*) Keep the dosage realistic .. you *CAN* increse your dosage .. but I will
>talk about this later. If they give you a low dosage then TAKE IT WITH A
>SMILE! Trying to talk your way into a larger dosage can result in you
>being exposed.
>*) If you have a (known) history of drug abuse, then forget it .. NEVER
>disclose a past of drug abuse ... in some states, laws actually forbid
>doctors from prescribing narcotics (and even benzos) to persons with a
>documented history of drug abuse (the exceptions are narcotics for surgerys,
>serrious injuries and drug rehab programs [methadone, etc..])
>*) Dress PRESENTABLE, not like a 'drug user', like a RESPONSABLE person!
>(PhreeXPastError - Make sure track marks are covered!)
>*) Don't flex with all yer 31337 drug knowledge. I know you may feel
>1337-0-burrit0 throwing out all those big, long, hard to say drug names ..
>but this is a *BAD* thing!
Indeed. My MO usually involved getting the name slightly wrong,
or having to refer to an empty pill bottle....
>Allright .. on to it .. its really simple, yet its also an art form. You have
>to have the drug knowledge of a doctor, the bullshitting skills of a social
>engineer, and the ability to act like you don't have either of them.
>The knowledge of a doctor? Yes grasshopper .. lemme explain.
>You goto the docotor .. you have a good story - new job, lots of lower back
>pain, you suggest Vicodin ES, saying it has helped in the past *but* the
>doctor quickly retorts with "Lets try some Flexeril"
Hmm. My own MO tended to be to run through the medications we'd
tried before arriving at the desired drug. ie, for migraine
"My old doctor started me on Migralieve, but they just didn't even
start to touch the pain, and nor did the DF118's (dihydrocodeine's)
that he replaced them with. Eventually, the pain got so bad I was
hospitalized, and they put me on morphine, which helped with the pain
but didn't actually agree with me. They made me very nauseous and
extremely constipated. Finally, they switched me over to these
things, which are strong painkillers but also have an anti-emetic
in them." I don't actually take them that often, but when I do have
an attack, I might need to take two or three over the course of a
day, so my doctor would usually issue a script for 30, and have
me come back when I needed more."
>Someone suggested you bring in an old prescription bottle - I think this is a
>wonderfull idea! Basicly, when you goto the doctors office for some perc's
>(damn migrains!) bring an empty bottle with you, better yet, have 1 or 2
>pills in the bottle... this way, the doctor will see you have had success in
>the past. Of chourse, this assumes you actually had a real script in the past
>.. be a man, break a leg!
No, this was definitely a key factor. My score rate more than doubled
when i'd take a pill bottle along with me, especially if it had a
pill in.
However, you need the pill bottle to be from a doctor in a different
area to the one you are working. Otherwise, he's gonna ask why you
don't go back to the original doctor.
>If all else fails, BEG! Yes, it does actually work ... I was turned down
>once, and basicly begged for a script for Valiums (to help me sleep).
Yup. Crying can also help. "I don't think I can carry on with this
pain, doctor. I'm at my wits end. I don't know what I'll do."
Of course, you should save this tactic till the very end because it smacks
of desperation, and you want to avoid that impression if you can.
Another thing that sometimes worked for me was simply refusing to
leave. I'd just sit there and argue until I wore them down. They'd
make it clear that they were finished, but I just wouldn't go
until they gave me something. However, this strategy was normally
reserved for ...
doctors who had been writing for you in the past, but
had finally rumbled your scam and weren't going to prescribe any
more.
A strong gambit here is to acknowledge that you've found yourself
dependent upon these tablets as a result of his liberal prescribing
practices, and through no fault of your own. You very much want to
end this dependence, but you can't do it cold turkey without his
help. Persuade him to work with you, giving you a reducing dose.
This plan works best when you've had the guy on a string for a long
time. If you've only had two or three scripts off him, it isn't
going to play with most doctors.
>I'm almost thru .. I promise!
>One of the most important things - GOOD INSURENCE! You think PhreeX *PAYS*
>for all these doctor visits?
Thank God for the NHS. If I was *paying* for a doctor, I'd expect him
to write it out precisely as I told him, and keep his nosey questions
to himself. :-)
>My ins is thru my parents, wealthy anglo-saxon parents ..
Do they want to adopt another 40 year old son who needs a lot of care
and attention?
>Now, I'm not even going to go into the art of insurence fraud, because its
>wrong! I'm not even going to talk about how you can call up fancy insurence
>comapnies with good coverage and claim you are one of their clients, and you
>lost your card .. simply because that is immoral! I wont even begin to talk
>about trashing for social security numbers (to aid in your fraud) I wont talk
>about any of that, no sir, its WRONG! I am not going to tell ANYONE about how
>doctors offices don't (usually) check ID and you can have your visit billed
>to someone else. No, PhreeX Will not even go into that!
>Once you find a doctor with prescribing habbits you like, STICK TO HIM (or
>her). Buld a good relationship with your doctor, let him (or her) know how
>AMAZING the medicine works, and don't give any indication you are in over yer
>head (eg calling yer doctor begging for more 10mg Valium - 2 days after he
>gave you a script for 40!).
...Well, hold off this for as long as you possibly can, anyway.
Eventually, you won't be able to resist, but the longer you
avoid blowing him off, the better off you'll be. Unless you've
hit lucky and found one of those guys who can't say no. I
remember one doctor I had, used to write for 60 Diconal at a
time. Sometimes I'd hit him three times a week, and he'd *never*
refuse. His receptionists would refuse me appointments, or
they'd turn me away if I arrived at the surgery, but I'd sneak past
them while they were busy, wait in the toilets until it was my
turn to be seen and then just stroll into his office. The guy never
kept any records of what he'd given me anyway.
And if you happen on a good one like this, don't give up completely
just because he blows you out. On two seperate occasions, this guy
told me he simply couldn't do it any more. He'd had visits from the
police and the Home Office drugs branch inspectors and they were
threatening him with the loss of his license if he carried on
prescribing for me. But when I went back a year or so later, he
just picked up his pen and started writing as though nothing had
ever happened.
Thank God for the demon alcohol. I might not like it myself, but
it certainly comes in useful at times.
DIE ART AUF SCRIPTING, VIA INSPEKTAHDEK REFERENCE, ENJOY AND PEACE TO MY BRETHEREN AND BEAUTIFUL FEMME FATALES' :)
>> This doctor you speak of is one of the FEW with this mindset. Most doctors
>> will NOT prescribe you any decent drugs if you speak of a past history of
>> drug abuse. The thinking is "well, he used to use heroin, he only wants these
>> valiums to get fucked up on".
>What about my friend who got a methadone script for depression?
He's a very lucky guy.
Same doctor, by any chance?
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>Anyway .. I welcome additions to this .. everything in here is based upon my
>friend of a friends experiences .. wait, no, the truth is I tried all this
>MYSELF .. yes netFeds-a-lurking, I PhreeX have DEFRAUDED doctors and
>ILLEGALLY obtained drugs!
Heh. And I've got the convictions to go with it...
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>Basicly, theres a few types of doctors -
>The first type, is the "I'm gonna be the cause of the end of all drug abuse"
>type .. these are the doctors that are the tight asses that prescribe a 3
>days supply of T3 after a major operation, since they don't want to
>contribute to us nasty drugs users habbits
>The second type, is the "You want it? You got it! No injuries? No problem!"
>By far the BEST! This type is a bit hard to find, but if you do yer set fer
>life (or until the doctor is busted). Back when I lived in Cocoa, Florida,
>there was a local walk-in medical clinic. One of the doctors (Dr. Wrigly) was
>this type of doctor .. you could bounce into his office, say something to the
>extent of "um .. yeah .. back hurts .. percocet please" and *BAM* in your
>hand you held a script for percocets .. of chourse you had to pay for this
>"legit medical service" .. usually a cash payment of about $25. Finally,
>after he had been doing this for YEARS, the DEA found out what half of Cocoa
>knew, he was handing out scripts for anything to anyone, as a result he was
>busted (he is now in jail). Sucks .. he was a cool doctor .. now that he is
>gone I find my self having fewer lower back injuries .. go figure
Here, it helps to seek out Doctors with addictions of their own.
Alcoholics,
sex addicts, doctors who understand what it's like to want, to *need* as
badly as we do.
There are a lot more of these about than you'd expect. I've seen
estimates that as many as 10% of doctors suffer from a substance
abuse problem. Mind you, if they have a prescription drug problem,
your chances decrease because they dont want to draw attention to
their own prescribing patterns.
>Now, a little bit on WHAT you can get...
>First, there are some differn't "schedules" of drugs -
>CI - FULLY ILLEGAL drugs, with NO accepted medical use. Examples are MDMA
>("ecstasy"), heroin, LSD, etc... DO *NOT* even talk of these things!
>CII - VERY CONTROLED drugs with SOME accepted medical use. Examples are
>Dilaudid (semi-synthetic heroin), morphine, percocet, etc.. These are *HARD*
>to obtain, but possible. Presrciptions for *ANY* CII drug *MUST* be written
>on special water-marked pads with DEA #'s and doctor/paitent information.
In the UK, they are called CD (Controlled drug) scripts, and although
they are the same as any other NHS script, they have to be written
differently. Amounts must be written in words and numbers. Dates must
be written by hand. This very fact draws the doctor's attention that
they aren't writing for just any drug.
I used to do it solely for one drug in this category, a drug called
Diconal. I often would get a doctor to agree to write, but he'd
just write a regular script without observing the CD regulations.
If this happened, the pharmacist would refuse to fill it (the
law prevented them from doing so.) So you had the dilemma of
deciding whether to ask him to write it out properly, thus drawing
his attention to the fact that it was a CD, in which case he may
well tear it up and offer you something else, or of taking it
and having the pharmacist call him and ask him to amend it.
And he might still tear it up again, but at least that way you
don't come across as an expert on script writing.
Unfortunately, they've changed the law since, and Diconal now
has the same status as heroin, ie, a GP can only prescribe it to
an addict if he has a special license from the Home Office. And
the Home Office don't feel it's an appropriate drug for the
management of addiction, so that game is pretty much up now.
>CIII, CIV, etc.. these are like Valium, Xanax and the other drugs that are
>not really hard to get
Indeed. Here, most doctors will give any of these things away for the
asking, basically. With the possible exception of Temazepam. You
might have to see a couple of doctors before you find one, but
basically nobody would have any problem getting buprenorphine,
dihydrocodeine, or any of the benzodiazapines, and you'll also find
that a growing number of GP's are happy to prescribe methadone mixture
to maintain their addict patients, provided you aren't receiving a
script for it elsewhere.
>*) Be realistic, no doctor is going to believe you were on 4mg Dilaudid for
>your headaches. Don't try to get something thats obviously out of your
>reach ... namely strong narcotics. While "back pain" or "migrain (sp?)
>headaches" may get you some hydrocodone (maybe even oxycodone) its best
>NOT to push it.
I used to use both of these lines in my quest for Diconal, and both
of them worked for me regularly. Bear in mind though, that I haven't
been active since the 70's, and the scam was widely regarded as being
burned out even then. The advantage of both of these conditions is
that they are very hard to disprove, so if the doctor decides to send
you for further tests, they can't disconfirm your account of your
pain.
One woman I knew tried to run the scam claiming cervical cancer.
However, all that it got her was an internal examination and a
bunch of distalgesic. The doc just couldn't find any evidence
of a tumour, basically.
>*) If the doctor suspects you are trying to simply scam drugs, you will
>probably be turned away with NOTHING! There is also a chance a note will
>be made in your file .. this happened to me in Orlando, I pushed it to far
>and tried to go from some Vicodin to Percocet, the doctor basicly got me
>to talk a little to much .. as a result I lost the Vics *AND* a note was
>put in my file "This paitent has attempted to obtain narcotics for
>recreational use, please do NOT prescribe him any blah blah blah..."
And I don't know about in the USA, but here in the UK the local
health authority circulates descriptions and MO's of known script
blaggers.
>*) Keep the dosage realistic .. you *CAN* increse your dosage .. but I will
>talk about this later. If they give you a low dosage then TAKE IT WITH A
>SMILE! Trying to talk your way into a larger dosage can result in you
>being exposed.
>*) If you have a (known) history of drug abuse, then forget it .. NEVER
>disclose a past of drug abuse ... in some states, laws actually forbid
>doctors from prescribing narcotics (and even benzos) to persons with a
>documented history of drug abuse (the exceptions are narcotics for surgerys,
>serrious injuries and drug rehab programs [methadone, etc..])
>*) Dress PRESENTABLE, not like a 'drug user', like a RESPONSABLE person!
>(PhreeXPastError - Make sure track marks are covered!)
>*) Don't flex with all yer 31337 drug knowledge. I know you may feel
>1337-0-burrit0 throwing out all those big, long, hard to say drug names ..
>but this is a *BAD* thing!
Indeed. My MO usually involved getting the name slightly wrong,
or having to refer to an empty pill bottle....
>Allright .. on to it .. its really simple, yet its also an art form. You have
>to have the drug knowledge of a doctor, the bullshitting skills of a social
>engineer, and the ability to act like you don't have either of them.
>The knowledge of a doctor? Yes grasshopper .. lemme explain.
>You goto the docotor .. you have a good story - new job, lots of lower back
>pain, you suggest Vicodin ES, saying it has helped in the past *but* the
>doctor quickly retorts with "Lets try some Flexeril"
Hmm. My own MO tended to be to run through the medications we'd
tried before arriving at the desired drug. ie, for migraine
"My old doctor started me on Migralieve, but they just didn't even
start to touch the pain, and nor did the DF118's (dihydrocodeine's)
that he replaced them with. Eventually, the pain got so bad I was
hospitalized, and they put me on morphine, which helped with the pain
but didn't actually agree with me. They made me very nauseous and
extremely constipated. Finally, they switched me over to these
things, which are strong painkillers but also have an anti-emetic
in them." I don't actually take them that often, but when I do have
an attack, I might need to take two or three over the course of a
day, so my doctor would usually issue a script for 30, and have
me come back when I needed more."
>Someone suggested you bring in an old prescription bottle - I think this is a
>wonderfull idea! Basicly, when you goto the doctors office for some perc's
>(damn migrains!) bring an empty bottle with you, better yet, have 1 or 2
>pills in the bottle... this way, the doctor will see you have had success in
>the past. Of chourse, this assumes you actually had a real script in the past
>.. be a man, break a leg!
No, this was definitely a key factor. My score rate more than doubled
when i'd take a pill bottle along with me, especially if it had a
pill in.
However, you need the pill bottle to be from a doctor in a different
area to the one you are working. Otherwise, he's gonna ask why you
don't go back to the original doctor.
>If all else fails, BEG! Yes, it does actually work ... I was turned down
>once, and basicly begged for a script for Valiums (to help me sleep).
Yup. Crying can also help. "I don't think I can carry on with this
pain, doctor. I'm at my wits end. I don't know what I'll do."
Of course, you should save this tactic till the very end because it smacks
of desperation, and you want to avoid that impression if you can.
Another thing that sometimes worked for me was simply refusing to
leave. I'd just sit there and argue until I wore them down. They'd
make it clear that they were finished, but I just wouldn't go
until they gave me something. However, this strategy was normally
reserved for ...
doctors who had been writing for you in the past, but
had finally rumbled your scam and weren't going to prescribe any
more.
A strong gambit here is to acknowledge that you've found yourself
dependent upon these tablets as a result of his liberal prescribing
practices, and through no fault of your own. You very much want to
end this dependence, but you can't do it cold turkey without his
help. Persuade him to work with you, giving you a reducing dose.
This plan works best when you've had the guy on a string for a long
time. If you've only had two or three scripts off him, it isn't
going to play with most doctors.
>I'm almost thru .. I promise!
>One of the most important things - GOOD INSURENCE! You think PhreeX *PAYS*
>for all these doctor visits?
Thank God for the NHS. If I was *paying* for a doctor, I'd expect him
to write it out precisely as I told him, and keep his nosey questions
to himself. :-)
>My ins is thru my parents, wealthy anglo-saxon parents ..
Do they want to adopt another 40 year old son who needs a lot of care
and attention?
>Now, I'm not even going to go into the art of insurence fraud, because its
>wrong! I'm not even going to talk about how you can call up fancy insurence
>comapnies with good coverage and claim you are one of their clients, and you
>lost your card .. simply because that is immoral! I wont even begin to talk
>about trashing for social security numbers (to aid in your fraud) I wont talk
>about any of that, no sir, its WRONG! I am not going to tell ANYONE about how
>doctors offices don't (usually) check ID and you can have your visit billed
>to someone else. No, PhreeX Will not even go into that!
>Once you find a doctor with prescribing habbits you like, STICK TO HIM (or
>her). Buld a good relationship with your doctor, let him (or her) know how
>AMAZING the medicine works, and don't give any indication you are in over yer
>head (eg calling yer doctor begging for more 10mg Valium - 2 days after he
>gave you a script for 40!).
...Well, hold off this for as long as you possibly can, anyway.
Eventually, you won't be able to resist, but the longer you
avoid blowing him off, the better off you'll be. Unless you've
hit lucky and found one of those guys who can't say no. I
remember one doctor I had, used to write for 60 Diconal at a
time. Sometimes I'd hit him three times a week, and he'd *never*
refuse. His receptionists would refuse me appointments, or
they'd turn me away if I arrived at the surgery, but I'd sneak past
them while they were busy, wait in the toilets until it was my
turn to be seen and then just stroll into his office. The guy never
kept any records of what he'd given me anyway.
And if you happen on a good one like this, don't give up completely
just because he blows you out. On two seperate occasions, this guy
told me he simply couldn't do it any more. He'd had visits from the
police and the Home Office drugs branch inspectors and they were
threatening him with the loss of his license if he carried on
prescribing for me. But when I went back a year or so later, he
just picked up his pen and started writing as though nothing had
ever happened.
Thank God for the demon alcohol. I might not like it myself, but
it certainly comes in useful at times.
DIE ART AUF SCRIPTING, VIA INSPEKTAHDEK REFERENCE, ENJOY AND PEACE TO MY BRETHEREN AND BEAUTIFUL FEMME FATALES' :)