Korachi Heroin

[Chicago]

I think I asked this a long time ago.
But this shit has been comming back around again.
Korachi heroin is a synthetic form which really started back when as china white w/Phenobarbital.
These days is Korachi is still heroin w/Phenobarbital, but the heroin tends to be diff in some places.
This one P.RICAN GIRL, I have been hanging for the last few days says she onlt does korachi, & I was like you can really get china white w/pheno..
She told me no it's tar/powdered form w/phenobarbital, so I gave it a shot & bought a little less then a half a gram & it was fucking great.
So I ended up getting some more then taking a run out west to get some reg white heroin & mixing it w/this shit she was getting, & MY LORD DID THIS PUT ME IN A DIFFERENT WORLD I HAVE NEVER DID SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN LONG TIME.

But back in the day, when I was buying korachi in '00, it was in powder form light brown color, but cooked like shit, putting 2cc would only suck up .20th of water & I put lemmon juice w/water & every way around it, I was giving free samples at 1rst to snorters & they loved it.

But when I shot it in '00, I thought I was gonna die w/a headach so bad & the vomiting each time i moved.

Anyways, this korachi going aroung is really good.
I bring this up b/c I want to no if any older heads up in gere wanna comment on this.
In the last 10yrs since I 1rst heard of this, it has changed in some ways, allways was cut w/phenobarbital, but the REAL KORACHI IS SUPPOSE TO BE CHINA WHITE W/PHENO.
Now I hear it's almost any heroin that is cut w/phenobarbital. But when the times I did it lately it was the fucking bomb & when mixing it w/my regular white dope, like I said OMG, I THINK I JUST CAME IN MY PANTS.

I don't think any younger kats even heard of this B4, but if you have what were experiances, b/c the smell is really gonna stick out & the look, well it has 2 diff looks.


Chicago...

[Frank Zito]

I scored in the Chi about 3 weeks ago off of a notorious Chicago street on the lame ass West Side. The dope was white and chalky like it always has been since I used to hit the City up. When I hit it with water it turned a clear, kool-aid red color, which I thought was crazy. Anywhooo, I did the dope and got majorly fucked. So fucked, that I passed out in my ride.

BTW...Fuck the Cicero police department. They are foul as fuck.

[melancholy]

She told me no it's tar/powdered form w/phenobarbital, so I gave it a shot & bought a little less then a half a gram & it was fucking great.

Hm, I've never heard of "Korachi" - this is all brand new to me. I also didn't know you could score tar in Chicago, I wonder how it compares to California tar? All I know is, if I had a choice between tar and beautiful powder..Well I'd choose both, but I'd do the powder first! Haha :D

[Papa Verine]

I scored in the Chi about 3 weeks ago off of a notorious Chicago street on the lame ass West Side. The dope was white and chalky like it always has been since I used to hit the City up. When I hit it with water it turned a clear, kool-aid red color, which I thought was crazy. Anywhooo, I did the dope and got majorly fucked. So fucked, that I passed out in my ride.

BTW...Fuck the Cicero police department. They are foul as fuck.

Cicero Police Department! You should've had my dago ass with you, you just might of had a better time there... maybe. Times are a changing, even for Cicero.

The dope on the West side is from shit to bad-ass, depending on where you go and when you go there. You got lucky if you don't buy there all the time.

I hope you didn't get in too much trouble!

[Frank Zito]

They planted a crack pipe on me and threw me in the Precinct. It cost me a 1000 dollars to get my ride back. I'm 100% Italian/Sicilian but the out of state plates is what got me hit. Yeah, It ain't the same in The Windy City anymore.

Extra factiod...I cooking homemade gnocchi and bruchetta right now. Mmmm anti-pasta.

[Chicago]

The red in the dope was dorms/dormin.
If it turned a water color w pink, sounds weak, but who no's. Like fent dope is clear w/a water tint of purple, but aswell to let some get that mixed up w/sleepinal which is like dorms, but blue.
So the red was just a fast cut & they put chunks of the craked dorms in there, no problem at all, but when it looks like kool aid, it to me is weak.

Cicero Police, why they fuck w/you?
I use to hand aroung 58th crt & cermak(sp) my lady g-parents live there, so I use to be there like 2 times a week for 12yrs, her uncle is a firefighter there in cicero,
I stay in Humboldt patk, cicero is the mexican version of a humboldt park.

You must be white living or driving threw cicero, but they never usually pull you over for nothing, but cicero is/has a dirty police deopartment, esp, since that dominic took over, better when betty was the mayor.



I scored in the Chi about 3 weeks ago off of a notorious Chicago street on the lame ass West Side. The dope was white and chalky like it always has been since I used to hit the City up. When I hit it with water it turned a clear, kool-aid red color, which I thought was crazy. Anywhooo, I did the dope and got majorly fucked. So fucked, that I passed out in my ride.

BTW...Fuck the Cicero police department. They are foul as fuck.

[Cherry's Jubilee]

Extra factiod...I cooking homemade gnocchi and bruchetta right now. Mmmm anti-pasta.

Really? Mmmm, love gnocchi.

[Frank Zito]

I had out of state plates. I was off Laramie and Roosevelt. They hit another dude parked next to me so
i might have been at the wrong place at the wrong time cause they accused me/us of doing a transaction. When they searched my ride and it came up clean they threw dudes crack pipe on me and towed my shit and brought me to the precinct. Faggots.

It was dark when I was fixing Chi. It was kool-aidey but I got knocked on my ass. I'm used to fire dope, especially from Detroit. It coulda' kicked me harder cause I popped a few bars a few hours before I scored.

Food that is based around the red/white sauces FTW.

[Chicago]

Chicago tar is 100% different then Cali, tar.
You can get tar in the hispanic hoods in Chi,
I had a buddy for all last summer was bringing really good Cali tar,over to Chi,& it did not even come come close to the tar these hispanics sell in Chi.
In Chi they do not cut there tar like Cali, B/c the blacks run the entire heroin operation in Chicago, so if they wanna keep up at all, they gotta be on toop of there shit,
So the cali tar, I tried which the guy brought about 1/2pnd of saying it was cali best & it was good, but Chicago's mex brown which they sell looks like glass b/c it can be turned into powder to snort, & stickey tar, I thought Chi's was better,IMO

Hm, I've never heard of "Korachi" - this is all brand new to me. I also didn't know you could score tar in Chicago, I wonder how it compares to California tar? All I know is, if I had a choice between tar and beautiful powder..Well I'd choose both, but I'd do the powder first! Haha :D

[Frank Zito]

Some kid I know brought back a whole mess of balloons of tar from Utah and he was all spouting off a bout how good the shit was, saying that it's the best the West has to offer, blah, blah, blah... I did a half a gram and that shit is asscheeks. Fuck tar. Although a girl I know fell out off the shit but it was only her second time I.V.ing.

[Papa Verine]

Chicago is right. I don't know what the tar on the West coast is cut with but any "Tar" I bought in the Mexican neighborhoods in chicago was good. I had it cut with phenobarbital too (Didn't know the name Chicago)and it was still worth it, and better then the Tar on the West Coast. I'm sure it depends on who you know there but ALL the tar I tried in San Fransisco and Seattle sucked compared to any average dope here.

I know people are going to argue it, I'm just telling you all my experience.

[Chicago]

YOU NO WHAT,
man if you mixed a little of that tar w/the white we got, wooooweeeee booyyyyyy!!!!!!!

NO JOKE.

I WILL SHOW, SOON ENUFF, 'JO, JUST WATCH;)

Chicago is right. I don't know what the tar on the West coast is cut with but any "Tar" I bought in the Mexican neighborhoods in chicago was good. I had it cut with phenobarbital too (Didn't know the name Chicago)and it was still worth it, and better then the Tar on the West Coast. I'm sure it depends on who you know there but ALL the tar I tried in San Fransisco and Seattle sucked compared to any average dope here.

I know people are going to argue it, I'm just telling you all my experience.

[Levity]

YOU NO WHAT,
man if you mixed a little of that tar w/the white we got, wooooweeeee booyyyyyy!!!!!!!

NO JOKE.

I WILL SHOW, SOON ENUFF, 'JO, JUST WATCH;)




I want to be high too.

:(

[chopstix]

I know people are going to argue it, I'm just telling you all my experience.

Dude, born and raised; left coast, all over; mexican chiva since 1988 and it's FUCKING GARBAGE. You know the right people or you know how to clean it with ether, otherwise you're fucked and muscling in under ten years, unless you have horse veins (like I did). Yeah, you can catch a nod and a morphine rush but the EC is pwning the mexican market, atm..

Scary part? Mexican dope is taking over. It's cheaper and readily available, learn chem or be afraid...

Karachi is the biggest province and port in Pakistan. My guess is the name is an attempt to trick you into thinking it's good quality peruvian..


Really? Mmmm, love gnocchi.
No shit? Even better than Whoppers?? Who'da guessed??

[melancholy]

Dude, born and raised; left coast, all over; mexican chiva since 1988

Was there ever real, legit powder heroin in Cali? Some older junkies I've talked to in rehab said there was around the mid to late 70's and then it all started becoming tar. :(

[noahzark]

This is why I do not do street dope any more. You never know what you are getting. The only way is to find a dealer who is high up in the chain and you get it before 20 people cut it. When I was young I was crazy and would stick anything in a spoon but no more.

Oh how I wish it was the early 1900s. When dope was legal. They say that before the Harrison narcotics that 25% of Americans were using Heroin or Morphine. The Sears catalog had Cocaine and Heroin for a few bucks per OZ.


Noahzark

[chopstix]

Was there ever real, legit powder heroin in Cali? Some older junkies I've talked to in rehab said there was around the mid to late 70's and then it all started becoming tar. :(

Yeah, somewhere around 85 someone taught the mexicans how to make heroin and take shortcuts (like skip the morphine base and just acetylize the fucking opium), and then about ten years later, I think they either started taking more shortcuts or using different chems because the price dropped dramatically and the dope changed - it really wasn't that bad when it first came around..

I've heard that prior to mexican tar, the market on the west coast was powder and probably SEA #4. Seattle, SF and LA all have huge asian districts ripe with crime and I've heard that you can still come across SEA if you know the right people. I found some once fresh from Thailand, in Seattle that was probably close to %90 - even after being repeatedly warned and doing half my normal shot, I almost went out and was way more loaded than I've ever been from mexican dope..

What gets me is: with all of the cheap SEA in Vancouver, BC, and the huge asian population on the west coast, why don't we see both? Why *just* nasty, cut to shit tar? Even if it was only coming into port in Vancouver, which I suspect it isn't, it would be easy to get it into the states over the cascades and through the San Juans in Washington. There's also a ton of coke in Canada so there is mexican influence. I figure it's either an agreement at the cartel level or it's just simply supply and demand and the mexican dope is cheaper and more available, although it certainly wasn't cheap when it showed up in the 80s but I don't know what grams of SEA dope were worth at the time.. It was 250/g for the chiva in the circles I ran in, and I've heard other people say higher.. By 95 it was around 100/G in Seattle..

[LayinLow]

All thats around here is mexican tar as well. It is very cheap which is why people don't mind it. I mean a few times there has been brown powder (which would turn into tar with a little moisture) but it was really fuckin good. Those times are rare though, so we deal with average tar. It's not THAT bad, but sure as hell could be better.

[chopstix]

That brown powder is just mexican dope that hasn't absorbed the humidity yet. It might be good quality tar but it's not SEA or SA dope.

[Black_Pony]

In the city black folks have learned how to step on it AGAIN. Then they learned to stand on the street corner and rip off white people. I love the artificial free market economy created by prohibitionist legislation.

BTW hollah at you're partner next time that SEA powder shows up. :D



What gets me is: with all of the cheap SEA in Vancouver, BC, and the huge asian population on the west coast, why don't we see both? Why *just* nasty, cut to shit tar? Even if it was only coming into port in Vancouver, which I suspect it isn't, it would be easy to get it into the states over the cascades and through the San Juans in Washington.

[Chicago]

:)@CHOPSTIX
Korachi is a big place in afghan or somewhere like that yes.

But, really korachi is heroin cut w/phenobarbital, was suppose to be china white back in the 80's & now its just heroin of any kind, but the pheno puts something greatt thing on top of it.

Look at seconals, how good those were to shoot.Then imagine that on top of dope.

you no what ck out on google heroin slangs, I did this about 5 mins ago looking for korachi, 1rst found airport, then when put in slangs, tells exaxtly all heroin terms & what they cut with.

Just saying korachi is diff from back in the day.

[chopstix]

In the city black folks have learned how to step on it AGAIN. Then they learned to stand on the street corner and rip off white people. I love the artificial free market economy created by prohibitionist legislation.

BTW hollah at you're partner next time that SEA powder shows up. :D

That was in about '90 man, and it was literally a one-shot deal.. Maybe we should take a field trip into china town, do some sightseeing , eat some chop suey, and hit up the bums?? I'd bet money there's poppies there, the Asians in Seattle peddle dried poppies at the markets.. ;)

:)@CHOPSTIX
Korachi is a big place in afghan or somewhere like that yes.

But, really korachi is heroin cut w/phenobarbital, was suppose to be china white back in the 80's & now its just heroin of any kind, but the pheno puts something greatt thing on top of it.

Look at seconals, how good those were to shoot.Then imagine that on top of dope.

you no what ck out on google heroin slangs, I did this about 5 mins ago looking for korachi, 1rst found airport, then when put in slangs, tells exaxtly all heroin terms & what they cut with.

Just saying korachi is diff from back in the day.

I hear ya man, I'm just sayin' the slang might come from the name of the province, or it maybe it's got an asian meaning.. Who knows, I'm just guessin'.. And jealous..

[Papa Verine]

Yeah, somewhere around 85 someone taught the mexicans how to make heroin and take shortcuts (like skip the morphine base and just acetylize the fucking opium), and then about ten years later, I think they either started taking more shortcuts or using different chems because the price dropped dramatically and the dope changed - it really wasn't that bad when it first came around..

I've heard that prior to mexican tar, the market on the west coast was powder and probably SEA #4. Seattle, SF and LA all have huge asian districts ripe with crime and I've heard that you can still come across SEA if you know the right people. I found some once fresh from Thailand, in Seattle that was probably close to %90 - even after being repeatedly warned and doing half my normal shot, I almost went out and was way more loaded than I've ever been from mexican dope..

What gets me is: with all of the cheap SEA in Vancouver, BC, and the huge asian population on the west coast, why don't we see both? Why *just* nasty, cut to shit tar? Even if it was only coming into port in Vancouver, which I suspect it isn't, it would be easy to get it into the states over the cascades and through the San Juans in Washington. There's also a ton of coke in Canada so there is mexican influence. I figure it's either an agreement at the cartel level or it's just simply supply and demand and the mexican dope is cheaper and more available, although it certainly wasn't cheap when it showed up in the 80s but I don't know what grams of SEA dope were worth at the time.. It was 250/g for the chiva in the circles I ran in, and I've heard other people say higher.. By 95 it was around 100/G in Seattle..

The reason you don't see SEA (SouthEast Asian) dope on the West coast, is something you already mentioned. The Mexicans not only know how to make cheap heroin, they have done their share of scaring away the competition on the West coast. The Mexican drug market for the average Joe is controlled by the Mexicans (Or further South) and that's that. I bet if you moved into an Asian neighborhood in Chinatown USA whether it be San Francisco or not, you'd find the better quality SEA dope. But if your just buying "what's out there" the Mexicans have a great share of the market especially throughout California.

[Papa Verine]

The city in Pakistan is spelled Karachi.

BIG city in Pakistan. Here:

Karachi, Pakistan Fast Facts
Population
City proper 9,339,023
Metro area 11,819,000
Elevation
15 meters (49 feet)
Temperature
January 26°/10°C (78°/51°F);
July 33°/27°C (92°/81°F)
Average daily High/Low °C (°F)
Rainfall
January 6 (0.2);
July 86 (3.4)
Average monthly mm (inches)
Time Zone
+5 hours UTC (Coordinated Universal Time)

[chopstix]

The city in Pakistan is spelled Karachi.


Yeah, but you can't deny the phonetic likeness, again, just idle speculation on my part. Pakistan is well known as a quality heroin route.

I pretty much figure there's gotta be white dope in the larger asian districts. Chinatown in SF is huge and the asians are well know for their use of opiates. I know the ones that used to sell me poppies in Seattle knew damned well what I was doing with them. You don't see any chinamen on 16th and mission in SF though. I'm sure they have their own little ring going but as long as I've been at this, I've never caught wind of it. Probably doesn't help that I'm a 6' blonde haired white boy always on the look out for mexicans with new shoes..

[strikks]

hey man sorry to change the topic a little but the crap powder in pittsburgh has been real weird like it is real lite/white powder it dissolves real good but you get a delayed rush and then like a weird dizzy medicine head type thing that has nothing to do with real dope could this be phenobarb?? ewww i hate that shit why do these fukers have to mess up a good thing i wish i was a big cartel leader i would kill em with kindness and the best shit chemists could make!!! everyone is afraid around here to put good shit out for fear idiots od on it but it is the low quality in the first place that usually contributes to an overdose round here cuz everyone is used to needing 5 bags but when that fent comes in or whatever it is lites out !!! cuz they still doin 5 bags!!! seriously i havent seen anything good around here for over a year it is either good but very weak or cut with this new weird shit and everyone is using it?? i only know a few people on one side of pittsburgh so it might not be like that in another part of the city just my experience lately sorry about the textual diarrea i am very itchy and lovin it 2 day

peace!!!:D

[Papa Verine]

Yeah, but you can't deny the phonetic likeness, again, just idle speculation on my part. Pakistan is well known as a quality heroin route.

I pretty much figure there's gotta be white dope in the larger asian districts. Chinatown in SF is huge and the asians are well know for their use of opiates. I know the ones that used to sell me poppies in Seattle knew damned well what I was doing with them. You don't see any chinamen on 16th and mission in SF though. I'm sure they have their own little ring going but as long as I've been at this, I've never caught wind of it. Probably doesn't help that I'm a 6' blonde haired white boy always on the look out for mexicans with new shoes..

Of ourse, I assume the reference IS to Karachi, Pakistan. I just didn't want to be that typical American ass who can't point out IRELAND on a fuckin map. Really, some people here think Memphis is the center of the Universe. I'm just trying to educate myself a little... did not mean to be smart-ass with my post.

[chopstix]

^^ No worries.

[Papa Verine]

^^ No worries.

You know, I'm half dope-sick, stone cold sober... I'm being an ass-hole. Papa sure could be in a better mood. I don't even have any benzos. Maybe I should get drunk as fuck tonight? Then pay dearly tomorrow...

[melancholy]

BTW hollah at you're partner next time that SEA powder shows up. :D

Don't forget me! I enjoy heroin too :( I'm only a couple hours away from SF..Haha

[chopstix]

You know, I'm half dope-sick, stone cold sober... I'm being an ass-hole. Papa sure could be in a better mood. I don't even have any benzos. Maybe I should get drunk as fuck tonight? Then pay dearly tomorrow...

Sounds like me on thursday/friday, dopesick and dealing with that clueless little bitch following me around the board talking shit.

I get pissy dopesick too, and I always have benzos and I'm usually at least a little buzzed in the evenings, which always makes for some good lippy fun. Yeah man, Doctor's orders: get schnockered ASAP, drink a bunch of water and you won't feel so bad tomorrow..

Ya know, I've been around long enough that I remember kicking the old fashioned way and I don't miss it. Bup is a fucking miracle drug ya know.. Just sayin'

[Sudafedhead]

all i know is west coast tar, seattle/san fran tar anyway, isnt bad, potency wise, but that shit will wreck your veins in an instant. i used to have huge veins popping out all over me, and ive collapsed them all in only a few years of shooting tar. sometimes it would only take one or two hits before that vein was disappear. pisses me off, how the entire west coast is stuck with that garbage. the only good thing about seattle dope is you dont have to go into the ghetto to get it. where i live now, good powder is available, but my only chance of scoring is going into the hood and risking being mugged/beaten up etc.. plus i dont know where to get rigs around here.

[SurfRat]

phenobarbitol?

you mean there's actually a use for that stuff?

some friends of mine have had a big bottle sitting around forever that used to be for treating a small dog who had seizures...

I thought you were supposed to bury it in your neighbors yard or give to the goodwill...

I didn't know you could do something with it.

[20Dollarholla]

The dope I have gotten in the past and the dope I'm getting now doesnt have any Pheno in it, if there was it I would be popping positive for 'Barbs' on my randoms. God I hope everyone doesnt start cutting with Pheno or I wont be able to use anymore until I'm off paper. 48 hours after I fix up I'm pissing clean for opiates, but if its cut with pheno it will take some time for the Barbs to leave my system.....Fuck. Do uyou guys think the small amount of pheno in these stamps is enought o cause a positive screen for barbs or is it unlikely.

Man your getting shitty powder in the "burg"?????? whats this world comin too? Evertime i picked up there it was always bomb as fuck, a whole lot better than what was going around Cleveland. You might be right though I stopped coppin there around 18 months ago. I didnt think Fent laced was still that prevelent there since old boy got popped for his Fent lab. Damn near everything was Fent then (about 2005-2006).

This was a few years back so maybe the quality went to hell after I quit. Since I'm back on now I have been contemplating a road trip to PA to cop those $300 bricks, but if its shit I wont waste my time and just keep dealing with my usual guy.

hey man sorry to change the topic a little but the crap powder in pittsburgh has been real weird like it is real lite/white powder it dissolves real good but you get a delayed rush and then like a weird dizzy medicine head type thing that has nothing to do with real dope could this be phenobarb?? ewww i hate that shit why do these fukers have to mess up a good thing i wish i was a big cartel leader i would kill em with kindness and the best shit chemists could make!!! everyone is afraid around here to put good shit out for fear idiots od on it but it is the low quality in the first place that usually contributes to an overdose round here cuz everyone is used to needing 5 bags but when that fent comes in or whatever it is lites out !!! cuz they still doin 5 bags!!! seriously i havent seen anything good around here for over a year it is either good but very weak or cut with this new weird shit and everyone is using it?? i only know a few people on one side of pittsburgh so it might not be like that in another part of the city just my experience lately sorry about the textual diarrea i am very itchy and lovin it 2 day

peace!!!:D

[sexualhealing]

shit in pa is how it always has been for me.....good ol east coast powdered dope, variying in quality from ok to very good the past few times ive grabbed.

now im near harrisburg, which is 4 hours from pittsburg, but the shit filling the streets here has to be coming from either philly/pitt/nyc/bmore.....its all in who you know.....

ive street copped and gotten good shit for not knowing a connect, with the few hispanics i do know, the shit lately has been top notch, so i dont know why it hasnt made its way down the turnpike.....sounds like a good buisness venture for someone to take on :)

[Canis aureus]

BTW; do you know what word "korachi" means?


It is said to be tarahumaranian way to say "raven". Raven heroin....

[oxydose]

hey man sorry to change the topic a little but the crap powder in pittsburgh has been real weird like it is real lite/white powder it dissolves real good but you get a delayed rush and then like a weird dizzy medicine head type thing that has nothing to do with real dope could this be phenobarb?? ewww i hate that shit why do these fukers have to mess up a good thing i wish i was a big cartel leader i would kill em with kindness and the best shit chemists could make!!! everyone is afraid around here to put good shit out for fear idiots od on it but it is the low quality in the first place that usually contributes to an overdose round here cuz everyone is used to needing 5 bags but when that fent comes in or whatever it is lites out !!! cuz they still doin 5 bags!!! seriously i havent seen anything good around here for over a year it is either good but very weak or cut with this new weird shit and everyone is using it?? i only know a few people on one side of pittsburgh so it might not be like that in another part of the city just my experience lately sorry about the textual diarrea i am very itchy and lovin it 2 day

peace!!!:D

Does it go milky then to completely (almost) clear with stirring, see if it leaves sticky residue?

[Chicago]

To answer someones question, no phenobarbs do not leave a medicine taste in your mouth after shooting.
As for the karachi, is a synthetic form of heroin, which has changed over the years.
1rst when it started, it was china white w/phenobarbs.
Then it changed to heroin cut w/barbs.
Also brown powder cut w/barbs.

Just as most 'ol timers on here, like D.F. would no back in the day how seconals were the SHIT when shooting them up, they are hard to get these days, like qualudes(sp) & back in the day people no ludes were the shit.

Just like seconals were the shit which is the strongest of the barbs.
As you guys prob no this, but for the youngsters, barbs are TRANQUILIZERS, that do dissolve in water & can be shot up, so imagine 10x stronger then any benzo's, Basicly this is why benzo's are so more rx'd then barbs b/c of the streangth.

Tranq's WILL KNOCK YOU ON YOUR ASS. As for benzo's even xanax are so/so compared to barbs.
So just think of some good heroin mixed w/tranq's, it knocks you out HARD.

Around here it is brown powder (heroin) cut w/barbs, & they call this karachi.
Chicago has got a HUGE WHITE HEROIN MARKET,& no one wants to go aroung saying they got karachi, b/c people gonna be like wtf is that, when the white shit is GREAT as it is.

I was just saying it was going around 1 part of town threw a hispanic side, where like I have mentioned that the blacks RUN the heroin trade in Chicago,99%...

Kinda like when fent 1rst came out in Chicago back in the early 80's when there was a heroin drought, dealers were cutting the little bit of heroin w/fent & this is when people were dropping left & right w/needles in there arms still. But this was the 1rst time it was reported in Chicago,like '81.

Then from '03-06 is hit the midwest & east coast hard, people dying all over again from fent dope.

But anyone from back in the day remember T's & Blues? You could shoot them & be knocked out for hours, this was from west coast to east coast, but you won't find that around AT ALL ANYWHERE, but people who did try T's & Blues, what did you think?

Chicago...

[Papa Verine]

To answer someones question, no phenobarbs do not leave a medicine taste in your mouth after shooting.
As for the karachi, is a synthetic form of heroin, which has changed over the years.
1rst when it started, it was china white w/phenobarbs.
Then it changed to heroin cut w/barbs.
Also brown powder cut w/barbs.

Just as most 'ol timers on here, like D.F. would no back in the day how seconals were the SHIT when shooting them up, they are hard to get these days, like qualudes(sp) & back in the day people no ludes were the shit.

Just like seconals were the shit which is the strongest of the barbs.
As you guys prob no this, but for the youngsters, barbs are TRANQUILIZERS, that do dissolve in water & can be shot up, so imagine 10x stronger then any benzo's, Basicly this is why benzo's are so more rx'd then barbs b/c of the streangth.

Tranq's WILL KNOCK YOU ON YOUR ASS. As for benzo's even xanax are so/so compared to barbs.
So just think of some good heroin mixed w/tranq's, it knocks you out HARD.

Around here it is brown powder (heroin) cut w/barbs, & they call this karachi.
Chicago has got a HUGE WHITE HEROIN MARKET,& no one wants to go aroung saying they got karachi, b/c people gonna be like wtf is that, when the white shit is GREAT as it is.

I was just saying it was going around 1 part of town threw a hispanic side, where like I have mentioned that the blacks RUN the heroin trade in Chicago,99%...

Kinda like when fent 1rst came out in Chicago back in the early 80's when there was a heroin drought, dealers were cutting the little bit of heroin w/fent & this is when people were dropping left & right w/needles in there arms still. But this was the 1rst time it was reported in Chicago,like '81.

Then from '03-06 is hit the midwest & east coast hard, people dying all over again from fent dope.

But anyone from back in the day remember T's & Blues? You could shoot them & be knocked out for hours, this was from west coast to east coast, but you won't find that around AT ALL ANYWHERE, but people who did try T's & Blues, what did you think?

Chicago...

Damn, Chicago...

you really are "old-school" man. I bet when you got into the game the Southside was all P-Stone nation. Barbiturates are not as common these days as they once were. Since benzodiazepines were produced for (Insert any anxiety related issue here) barbs have been disappearing at a steady rate. I think barbiturates are actually better for opiate W/D's then Benzodiazepines but "Barbs" have been disappearing. Do you really think the "Karachi" heroin you got recently is cut with phenobarbital? It could be any benzo that will dissolve or just some diphenhydramine, or whatever... I don't know if anyone HAS a steady supply of barbiturates anymore???

[RobOC]

Never had any T's or blues, but I did have the pleasure of trying actual ludes once, this is amazing for me cuz i am 24, ludes were taken off the market before I was born. Somehow an associate of a friend of mine got a few thousand of em. I happened to be in detox with said buddy and his girl brought us each one and warned us to be careful. I split it into four parts and took two. I was fucked up, but in a really euphoric and talkative kinda way. Almost reminded me of doing opiates for the first time. Definitely an enjoyable experience

[Chicago]

Yea, P.V. actually at the time the S.S. they were at the 'El Rukin stage.
FUNNY YOU PROB NO WHAT I MEAN BY THIS, BUT I STILL GET HIGH W/AN EX PRINCE, WHICH PRINCES ARE PRT OF THE MAIN 21. BUT I MEAN EX PRINCE, THE ONLY ONE STILL GOING STRONG IS CHIEF MALIK AKA JEFF FORT, EVEN HE HAD HIS ON SON KILLED WHEN HE WAS LOCKED UP FOR LIFE FOR DOING BUSN W/KADAFI(sp), his son ran MOE TOWN, BUT TAXED THEM 'OL SCHOOL DUDES UP THE ASS & ALSO USED, WELL YOU NO, OTHERS DON'T SO NO NEED TO EXPLAIN, ;)

But these hispanics in H.P. can get anything when it comes to pharms, just like if we go to mexico, look how easy it is to cop from the pharmacia, anyway in mexico, latin/South America, it is still out there & ludes aswell, but in another name.

Back in the day, I made a post on this when I went to Cuba/Mexico ect, got some dope when I was in my snorting stages, Found some, snorted a bag & ended up in the hospital, they had told me that the heroin out there is cut w/horse tranquilizers, which is alot stronger then dorms, ya no what I'm saying.

SO I REALLY HAD TO WATCH MY BACK OUT THERE, B/C THE HEROIN IS SO MUCH EASIER TO GET & PHARMACIA'S AT EACH CORNER SELLING ANYTHING YOU WANT OTC.

By the way, 1 HUGE REASON THEY STOPPED Rx'ing barbs is b/c that is when benzo's came into play, not saying benzo's were not around but barbs were no comparison to ANY BENZO'S.

If you guys just think about it, tranq's aka barbs are ment to knock you out,
OK example, when you want to shoot/knock a Bear out of a tree lol, or some animal, insted of killing them they use a tranq gun which is a barb.

WHAT IF THEY CAME TO YOUR CRIB & YOU GOT A BEAR IN DA HOUSE, LOL, WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE THEM SHOOT HIM W/A BENZO LIKE XANAX, OR TRANQ GUN AKA BARBS.
THAT WOULD BE FUNNY,"SIR WE ARE NOW GONNA SHOOT THIS BEAR WITH SOME XANAX/BENZO'S TO KNOCK HIM OUT FOR A WHILE TO GET HIM OUT" LOL

J/K ON THE BEAR, BUT YOU GUYS NO WHAT I'M SAYING RIGHT.

Damn, Chicago...


you really are "old-school" man. I bet when you got into the game the Southside was all P-Stone nation. Barbiturates are not as common these days as they once were. Since benzodiazepines were produced for (Insert any anxiety related issue here) barbs have been disappearing at a steady rate. I think barbiturates are actually better for opiate W/D's then Benzodiazepines but "Barbs" have been disappearing. Do you really think the "Karachi" heroin you got recently is cut with phenobarbital? It could be any benzo that will dissolve or just some diphenhydramine, or whatever... I don't know if anyone HAS a steady supply of barbiturates anymore???

[Papa Verine]

Yes I remember the "El Rukn's" I was just a little too young to shoot dope. I was popping T3's and Vicodins at the time. Jeff Fort looked like the biggest ass-hole in the U.S.A. when they had him making deals with Omar Kodhaffi! (spelling, who the fuck cares...)

[Chicago]

THATS WHY I HATE STONES B/C BACK IN THE DAY I DO & STILL CONSIDER THEM TO BE A TERRORIST GROUP.
THEY GOT MILLIONS IN GRANTS FROM THE GOV TO FUND THERE DRUG & GUN TRADE.
THE ONLY THING FORT DID GOOD WAS TO ONLY SELL HEROIN & WEED IN HUGE SUPPLY'S, BUT KEPT THE COKE/CRACK AWAY, B/C YOU SEE WHAT CRACK DID, & AT THE TIME IF YOU REMEMBER "CRACK KILLS" LOL:D

BUT HEROIN WAS THE MAIN OPERATION OF TRADE & OUR GREAT U.S. GOVERNMENT PAID FOR ALL OF OUR HEROIN & THEY NO THIS, & THEY WERE SO EMBARRASSED:o THAT THEY HAD TO PUT THE FALL ON SOMEONE, JEFF FORT.

ONCE HE GOT LOCKED UP THATS WHEN COKE/CRACK HIT THE STREETS LIKE CRAZY EVEN BY HIS OWN PEOPLE.
BUT HE DID NOT ALLOW COKE TO HIT THE S.S. JUST HEROIN, FUNNY THING HUH.
HE LOOKED AT IT AS IF CRACK PEOPLE WOULD KILL THERE MOMMA FOR 1 MORE HIT & THEY DID. THE REAL CRIMES STARTED W/CRACK. YOU NEVER HEARD NANCY REGAN TALKING ABOUT HEROIN MUCH WHEN SHE STARTED DARE. IT WAS COKE, PLUS COKE WAS THE DRUG OF THE 70-80'S LIKE HEROIN IS NOW, COKE IS DEAD, IMO COKE IS ONLY AROUND TO MAKE CRACK OR TO SELL TO RICH POWER PLAYERS(POWDER FORM)

YOU NO YOU SHIT P.V.;)



Yes I remember the "El Rukn's" I was just a little too young to shoot dope. I was popping T3's and Vicodins at the time. Jeff Fort looked like the biggest ass-hole in the U.S.A. when they had him making deals with Omar Kodhaffi! (spelling, who the fuck cares...)