opiates and klonopin

[Cornburglar]

I've been given Klonopin for anxiety. Any issues with mixing with a dose of poppy tea? I know no booze with them benzos but are various opiates ok?

[bronyraur]

the usual precautions apply when combining two CNS (central nervous system) depressants. the klonopin will potentiate (increase) the effects of the poppy tea and vice versa. hope this helps.

[ontario_opiophile]

Avoid Klonopin at any cost. Long story short, 2 friends and I took it one night, by morning, I had been in a car accident, and they were in jail for a break and enter and they were the type of guys that wouldnt have ever done that if they were in their right mind. Klonopin gives you amnesia and you totally black out sometimes and lose control of yourself. You become very nutty and do stupid shit. You probably know this already. I don't mind Flurazepam or Valium but Klonopin is really strong and causes blackouts easily. And it also lasts very long. I blacked out for about 24+ hours. It's got a long half life I think. It must because It lasts so long. One time I drank a bottle of corn whiskey and took a small handful of 4mg generic clonazepam which is the same as Klonopin and I totally blacked out and apparently i was nude and going nuts and tryingto attack all my friends and being a total nutcase. It's really quite scary when you dont remember things you've done and everyone else tells you about it. It's just creepy. So be careful! Take care. Oh also, I've never had any issues mixing benzo's and opiates. Just don't take a whole bunch and you should be okay. Just take a small dose and go up in steps if your doing it recreationally. It doesnt take much Klonopin to totally be fucked up. I wouldnt take more than the dose your doctor recommended. Just use in moderation. If you notice you start breathing slower and your pulse goes down or something stop taking them for a while and don't repeat the experience again. See ya!

[insomnolent]

Avoid Klonopin at any cost.

I agree, that benzo is bad news. A friend of mine was prescribed 4mg klonopins for sleep and handed them out to SWIM and his friend after they'd been drinking. SWIM can't remember a good two days, but apparently drove to work where he was passing in and out of consciousness -- to a point where SWIM's boss, whom is a good friend of SWIM's, told him to just sit it out in the office and keep a low profile. SWIM doesn't smoke, and went through an entire pack of cigarettes -- as SWIM was told later on. It's just scary to think that SWIM drove on those things without remembering it and risked their job. It might be beneficial as a potentiator is low doses, but SWIM really likes an unadultered opiate high and doesn't recommend mixing different CNS depressants.

[ontario_opiophile]

Yah so theres another person who had bad experiences and amnesia and did things they wouldnt normally ever consider doing. I really don't think it's a coincedence that everyone I know who's fucked around with it has done things they would never normally do while high on opies or while drunk or stoned. So 2 of my friends and me had adverse effects that night, then I had another adverse effect on another night with alcohol and benzo's, and Insomnolent has also had the bad experience. Although thats only 4 people including myself who's had shitty effects, it's enough for me to know that it's bad news. Be careful. They are also addictive as hell. Benzo withdrawal is supposed to be alot worse than opie withdrawal. If you can control yourself and not overdo it you'll probably be okay but it doesnt take much to go overboard.

[skeletontea]

Yeah, I gotta' agree with ontario. If I were drunk, I wouldn't dream of taking a benzo. But last time I took some benzos, I had no problem with having a few drinks and a zolpidem. My friend said, "Should we really be mixing 2 CNS depressants?" I apparently said "Um no,...but we're mixing 3," (and then I believe we both laughed). Apparently I didn't die, so that's a relief (though I did black out a few times).

Benzodiazepines and pharmaceutical sedative/hypnotics are the only things that make me loose such rationale, and self-restraint (for some reason alcohol doesn't have this effect on me). I enjoy them, but can't really trust myself on them. And as long as we're talking about clonazepam and opies, the lead singer of a local band I was really fond of od'd on a heroin/clonazepam combo.

[sidman]

DITTO!! I agree with the last couple of replies that benzos are bad news because I also have had bad experiences while "on the mix!!" I would do things that are totally OUT OF CHARACTER with myself. This resulted in me getting into trouble for doing some really stupid things while "on the mix!"
I think PT and clonopin would be similar to when a doctor prescribes Valium and percocets together.
Extra caution/PREcaution should be observed when "on the mix!" because like SkeletonTea's lead singer/rock star who he was fond of,DIED(along with many others,who were just average people),this shows that "the mix" is no joke....its downright dangerous!!
Back in 1993, I was rushed to the hospital for a overdose. I sniffed a bag and a half of some "H" and proceeded to "fall out".....when I awoke in the hospital(SURRRRPRISE,SURRRRPRISE,SURRRRPRISE!!!) I was questioned by a psychiatrist(they thought I might have been trying to kill myself) and he asked me why I took a combination of valium and heroin.I told him that I didnt take any valium,but he said they found it in my system. I didn't knowingly take Valium that night,so it had to have been cut into the bag of "H" I sniffed.I wasn't even into benzos back then,but it ("The mix!") definately showed me that it could of killed me very easily. BE CAREFUL CornBurglar!!

[dissident]

yeah, lorazepam and klonopin both made me black out for days on end, very scary. with the lorazepam i got into a car accident and i dont remember anything, with the klonopin i LOST my car when i lived in san francisco. just take 1 or 2, and if you dont think that that is enough dont keep taking them...

[hovadagod]

You guys are taking far too much klonopin. That's why you don't like it. I

[exitwound]

Yeah, higher doses of clonazepam are not so fun.

[hovadagod]

I take .5 mg or 1mg and I'm straight.

[Cornburglar]

I take .5 mg or 1mg and I'm straight.

Ya, my doc gave me .25 mg dissolving wafers. I just take 1 when mixing and I'm straight. 2-3 alone seems to do the trick. But never, NEVER with booze. That's a good way to wake up dead.

[candy]

It has already been said, but mixing 2 CNS depressants such as opiates and benzo's is not a good idea. Same with benzo's and alcohol. They are both respiratory depressants.

Drugs like Klonopin and Lorazepam, Valium, do have an amnesic effect. Versed being the best at causing an amnesic effect, which is used in medical proceedures. Get the amnesic effect but without giving high doses of the drug.

I have done some crazy shit on Klonopin myself. Of course I took more than prescribed and slept for hours on end.

For those on Methadone, be careful with some of the Benzo's , they can cause withdrawal like symptoms as they tend to increase the metabolism of Methadone in the liver.

[ontario_opiophile]

Low doses of benzo's are usually okay. But theres something about Klonopin. I don't know what it is, but it's just the worst one out there for me. Those times I did black out I took too much. The pill were 4mg pills for my friends schizophrenic mom and she was on major doses of it, i took maybe 5-10 i can't remember now. It might have been 8, and i was naked running around almost getting knocked out by my friends cuz they couldnt stand me anymore. The time i had the car accident I only took 2-3 or something. But I guess 2-3, 4mg pills is alot of klonopin. I actually drove home after that night when i was naked and I remember getting out of the car in my driveway and flopping around like a fish. I lost control of my arms and legs. I was experiencing some muscle flaccidity lol. or whatever it's called. It was similar to something I saw on COPS once when a guy was on GHB and they pulled him over and he coulednt stand up and broke his ankle from flopping around. The strnge thing is, i managed to drive 30miles home on a highweay somehow. I dont know how i found my house or how i stayed on the road. I'm lucky i didnt die that night. It was crazy, my mom was there to greet me at the door of course and I was 17 new licence and all and she thought i was drunk and i woke up later on that day or a day later and I just had a small recollection of what had happened. I almost thought i had dreamt about it until my mom talked to me about it. I think I actually had makeup on too. lol......Yah i did, my buddies gf had made me into a drag queen i had lipstick on nd everything. lol Benzo's = bad news. Flurazepam is a nice one though. it's called Dalmane I like it alot. It comes in 15mg pills it's not super potent but you can control yourself while on it. It's similar to valium with a bit more sedation. Lorazepam is useless for me. I used to have a script for anxiety but it would make me way too tired. I would hate to have a benzo addiction ontop of an opiate addiction. That would suck ass

[Bonnie100]

I take Klonopin and lortab, thats about it. Never had problems with it. I did Ambien (sleep medicine) once by mistake during the day (looked like my Zoloft) and I literally do not remember the first half of the day at work. And that was just the Ambien itself. I will never take that again!! I barely even feel taking 2 Klonopin. 3 make me sleep nice.

[shaunclo]

For those on Methadone, be careful with some of the Benzo's , they can cause withdrawal like symptoms as they tend to increase the metabolism of Methadone in the liver.

Hey Candy, wasnt there that documentary (methadonia) regarding mixing benzo's and methadone. I thought these guys were taking benzos with their meth to get a H like high. Im not saying your wrong, Im just wondering if this is new news??

[pointed]

Yeah, higher doses of clonazepam are not so fun.

And, how. I was SUPPOSED to take 12mg a day (if I recall correctly). When I had it moderately under control (sic), I took 28mg at a time every 3rd day. This was on top of alotta 'done. When I just said, "hell with it", I thought nothing of downing upwards of 20 of those puppies at a time...2mg pills. Withdrawing from that stuff nearly killled me, as I explained in revolting detail, before. Fuck Klonipin! The really sad thing is that I just took it 'cuz it was there. Shoulda stuck to something safe and non-addictive like cocaine. ;)

Best,

Kate

[shaunclo]

Hey Cornburglar.....WHAT THE HELL IS THAT AVATOR!! It looks like rotten meatloaf, it makes me wanna shoot stomach bile across the room.......nasty stuff man.

[GMorris]

Good Lord! Am I the only one here with a tolerance from hell? I LOVE Klonopin and can take 2 - 3mg while drinking AND being blasted on Morphine. I'll remember everything the next day as well. I guess I've been doing drugs for such a long time that I can tolerate megadoses compared to many people. I like to take Klonnies and Morphine, crush them up and mix them together and rail it up. It's a mighty fine feeling if you ask me! I've never heard of 4mg pills though, and can't imagine anyone actually needing a dose that high in a normal therapeutic setting. I've had the 0.5, 1, and 2mg strengths, but never even heard of a 4 until now. I took Klonopin for two weeks straight at the beginning of this month, a total of about 16mg (they were the 0.5's) and never once blacked out or forgot anything that happened, I just felt fucking great all day. And now that I'm out, not a withdrawal symptom in sight. If I DID experience w/d from K, I could take care of it with alcohol anyway. Two or three days and you're OK with K w/d, at least that's been my experience. I'd recommend trying 0.5mg the first time you try it, maybe a whole mg if you have a good benzo tolerance. Taking 4mg and drinking the first time you try it is a little idiotic and dangerous as well, and may account for some of your bad experiences with it!

[Cornburglar]

Hey Cornburglar.....WHAT THE HELL IS THAT AVATOR!! It looks like rotten meatloaf, it makes me wanna shoot stomach bile across the room.......nasty stuff man.

That, my friend, is the dreaded Cornburger. For some reason when people refer back to me on here they call me Cornburger. So, I thought I'd give it a try!

[dissident]

You guys are taking far too much klonopin. That's why you don't like it. I

yeah that was the problem... young and stupid... im talkin like 20mgs at least... bad news

[hovadagod]

I think the 4mg pills may have been specially compounded. I haven't even seen those being sold internationally.
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[exitwound]

yeah that was the problem... young and stupid... im talkin like 20mgs at least... bad news

Yowzer. Be careful.....if for some reason you were stranded without your supply, you could wind up dead from a horribly painful ordeal in short order. Benzo withdrawal KILLS!

[psychotiKK]

I've always been safe on klonopins. Both my suboxone doctor and my psychiatrist agree I can take my daily dose of both and be fine. I am on 1mg klonopin 2x a day : 12mg Suboxone 1x a day : Paxil CR 75mg 1x nightly. I try not to take the klonopin twice a day, or even every day. Now xanax, that stuff is powerful. One night I was bored and experimenting with it trying to get a high. I snorted/chewed/parachuted 5 and the next thing I remember were my parents shaking my body, screaming at me, and pouring water on me to get me up. It took a few minutes but I finally got up. They told me I took 13 xanax.. but it could've been 15.
These were 1mg, btw. I don't remember much at all of that day..

[hovadagod]

Don't do that kind of shit on sub dude. Remember that when mixing it will slow down your CNS.