Methedone OMG really

[satori]

Im sorry for not posting in methadone section but my computer wouldnt let me open up that page.

Ok i have been stuck with codeine.... codeine. I ran out of that so i have a few pods. Well im getting 70mg of methadone tomarrow - WOW. What is the average dose? One per day right? Is there anything that interacts with it? One of my friends who go's to a clinic takes xanax with it so is clonezepam ok at night? Ive read 10mg is a dose but my tollerence is very low now i can feel 50mg of codeine fairly well. Dose once in the day, no more then once, dont take other opies on it because they most likely wont work and what should i be careful about? Is there anything i shoud especialy avoid? Anything at all? I read the half life is like 30hours, but how long do you "feel" it? And what is the LD50. Im sorry for so many questions im just overwhelming a little.

[hovadagod]

If you feel 50mg codeine you shouldn't take methadone. It's like skipping all the fun stuff in between. Your tolerance has ways to go before you should take methadone. Tolerance is something that you can't really reduce (in any kind of permanent way). Once it goes to a certain level, you can stop using and it goes down, but only until you use one time or two. You can get so F'ed off of hydro, oxy, Tea, anything. If you do meth now, you won't ever feel codeine again. I don't know...I jsut wouldn't take such a giant leap...I'ts a waste of everything b/n codeine and meth.

[satori]

So what will happen if i take it? cant i take a low dose? 3-5mg? Will it up my tollerence for ..... what months? years/ lol. I typed lol but im reallllly serious. Im not going to take it for withdrawl, is that what you thought i meant or.... more info please!!!!!!!!! im very confused.

[ontario_opiophile]

When I was younger I had a tolerance similar to yours but with Oxycodone which is a bit stronger than codeine. 5mg of Methadone would give me a buzz for a 15 hours or so and then some shitty tired dirty feelings for another 24 hours. I'm not sure if you'll enjoy it. It's not something you'll enjoy the first time you do it. You may get kinda sick from it and throw up, I never did but it used to make me feel kinda gross. It's something that you grow into I guess. The more I took it the more I liked it so be careful. A few things could happen with 5mg, you could get sick, you could get a nice buzz for a long time, or it may not be enough to get you a buzz. But it probably is if you get a buzz on 50mg of codeine. 5mg of Methadone is way stronger than 50mg of codeine. I take 55 mg everyday but only because I have a tolerance. It still gives me a buzz everyday and i've been on it for years. Anyways, I wouldnt take 10mg, always start slow. If you take 5mg and you enjoy it then you know that you can take it the next time and you probably wont have any negative effects. If it's not enough, take 10mg (total) not an extra 10mg with the 5mg!!!! And see what happens. Keep in mind Methadone takes 30mins to 1 hour or so to kick in at all and it could even take longer so wait 2-3 hours before taking another 5mg, trust me you dont want to take 5mg and then take more thinking it wasnt working and an hour later you end up sick as hell and choking on your own tongue. Also, beware of intense itchiness. I itch like a Saigon whore when I take my methadone. Don't freak out about it, just keep itching and try not to think about it. It actually feels kinda good to itch lol. Also don't drink any grapefruit juice. It can react with methadone and other pain medicines and make them stronger, but it really has an effect with methadone. It even comes with a warning about grapefruit juice on the bottles so I dont screw around with it just incase. Another thing to keep in mind, Methadone will last a long time. 24+ hours probably since you are not an addict. So be prepared for hours of sedation and itchiness. Anyways thats just some stuff i thought I should say so you wont go kill yourself by accident or something. 5mg could even be too strong, it's probably not but who knows, I'm not a doctor so don't sue me if anything happens. I'm just giving you the best advice i can think of from my past experiences. Oh and one more thing, if you get 70mg of methadone don't take 5mg everyday until it runs out or you will end up ADDICTED. Don't even take it more than once a week or you may end up addicted because it sticks in the blood for quite a long time.. Peace!!!!! Take care, have fun!

[satori]

I had been on oxy, then hydro, then down to codeine, tramadol, and codeine again. Its been hell sense going off oxy. Though i cant complain to much its nothing like others who were on H or high doses of stronger opiates went through. However i did decide to not get it, after reading up on it more last night it didnt seem worth it. Maybe worth getting a single dose because im completely out of everything and the soonest i can get it is friday but still unsure about that. Thanks for the info.

[ontario_opiophile]

Yah it's probably better to stayaway from it. Doing it once every once in a while is okay. Stick to the lower stuff if you can though. Trust me you will enjoy codeine tramadol and hydro and oxy just the same as you would heroin or methadone because you have a low tolerance so just keep taking those until they become totally unfun and undesirable. Be careful and be safe. Peace

[Zoop]

Back a while ago, at a point in my life when I was very experienced with opiate use, but I did not have a habit (wasn't physically addicted) at the time, I would use methadone occaisionally. About 2 or 3 times a week, I'd use opiates, so I was no stranger to opiates.

At that time, 30mg of methadone would give me the most awesome buzz for like 30 hours. I could go to sleep at night, and when I woke up in the morning, I was still totally high as shit. The only complaint I have about it is that it was very constipating and it made me itch my face sooo much that I had redness all over my face because I was rubbing and scratching it so much.

I personally would recommend methadone as a recreational opiate. Start out with a low dose, like 15mg.

[poppy]

Satori I can't see a 10ml dose of methadone doing you any harm.Regarding the nausea that Ontario mentioned, isn't nausea and vomiting a side effect of most opiates? I thought it was, especially when u have a low tolerance.Besides even if u actually are sick its over quickly and is very different to when you vomit through illness or withdrawal or whatever. Likewise any itching is almost pleasurable, its not nasty itching like when u have chickenpox or prickley heat.
I didn't know about grapefruit juice intensifying meth (there are no warnings about it on the bottles in the uk). I'm off to get some right now to enhance my daily dose.(Just joking, seriously though would it really make a difference?)
I don't know anything about the tolerence thing Hovagod talks about so I can't help you with that but I'm sure someone else can.
Good Luck.
PS Zoop, I've said it before but I wish meth did to me what it does to u and PK, Give me my beloved heroin every time!!

[Kel]

I am on a klinic at 70 mgs a day. If you can feel 50 mgs of codeine it would be a HUGE injustice to go on methadone. Put it this way. If I don't get my dose after a few days I begin to go through extremely bad withdrawal, the movie kind. Got it. If you don't have a physical habit wait till you do before going on methadone. And unless you are getting it off the street a klinic RARELY starts anyone at 70mgs at least here. I mean without a serious IV habit. I don't recommend anyone that is not using drugs IV go on methadone. It's insane people have no idea that you become physically chained to the klinic. I rarely post here but this entry made me e CRAZY!

Please don't take the methadone.

KEL

[m_bc]

Sweetie don't even think of trying 70 mls of methaodne you'll kill yourself..and it can be very deceiving even at a small dose..as may take awhile to come on..then you may be tempted to take more and end up doing too much. If you just have to take some do 10mls at the most.

The itching is a reaction to the liver being overloaded with opiates.
Good luck.

[ontario_opiophile]

Methadone is strange. i know 10mg doesn't sound like alot but to someone who can get off on 50mg of codeine it could send them into vomiting mode for a day. There just something about it. It's unpredictable, I remember I could take 40mg or so and be high as fuck and then I would take 10mg a month later and get just as high as the time I took 40mg. I remember I was taking .5ml and 1ml of the 10mg/ml strength stuff at one point and getting buzzed off that tiny fucking amount of 5mg-10mg. I dunno it just all depends on the person. Nausea and vomiting is an effect of opiates in general. I've never thrown up or gotten nauseas from Codeine, morphine or any of the semi-synthetic or natural opiates. The only ones that have ever given me nausea are Meperidine/Pethidine (demerol), and Methadone. I find the synthetics are the most unpredictable, one day a dose of 250mg of meperidine wasn't enugh to get me very high, but 300mg the next day almost killed me.thats a diference of 1 pill and i could have died. I think synthetics lack stability. This is just purely what i have experienced maybe other people have found that too. The natural or semi synthetics opiates seem to be more predictable. When i take 200mg of oxycodone i kmnow whats going to happen, i know it wont act funky and send me into a tailspin, but if i take 100mg of methadone all at once I may feel ill and puke my guts out. Or i may be fine. Sometimes when I tke my normal dose it's too much for me. Oh my i'm just blabbering as usual. Don't mind me.

[satori]

I actualy have taken .... well some / a lot of percocet the past 3 months. I have been on opiates for about... 2 years now, hadnt stopped. Then recently i hurt my back (even worse!) and i ended up with over 250 perc. 80 hydrocodone, 120 tramdol, 3 things of hydrocodone (vicotussin, 300ml) cough syrup (i had a bad infection and broncitus (SP), i had 60 darvocet, and 40 darvon. Now... this was all taken in a 4-6 month period. I never actualy took more then my doctor said i could. BUT! you can see how i might feel... uncomfortable now. I can "feel" 50mg of codeine because i worked my way down from oxy to propoxy but im guessing going down delayed the oxy withrawls? I was on it about a month ago but this time around was a lot worse then the last time i had WD affects. Ive been really sick and my chest feels like its about to cave in. However i still decided not to get the methadone, because i would have just ended up wanting to get that, and i could have gotten it often which = problem. My back's doing bad and my doctor wasnt in today (i have been trying to go off but WD + back = me not caring about going off right now). TO be honest just the WD feelings i have right now make me want to get hydro or something similiar. SO! im going to an urgent care in a couple of hours and hopefuly they write something (hospital is expensive ... 100$, atleast thats a lot for me).

[satori]

Sweetie don't even think of trying 70 mls of methaodne you'll kill yourself..and it can be very deceiving even at a small dose..as may take awhile to come on..then you may be tempted to take more and end up doing too much. If you just have to take some do 10mls at the most.

The itching is a reaction to the liver being overloaded with opiates.
Good luck.

I wasnt going to take the 70 at once lol. I wouldnt even take that much of hydrocodone. I was saying i would be getting that much in total. Thanks for the concern though!

[candy]

What form of Methadone are you getting? Liquid, wafer, tab, ????? It's important to know, especially if your going to take it. Sounds like liquid form. Never heard of a 70mg tab. Unless I could get an accurate dose and knew what I was doing, I wouldn't take it. Especially if your tolerance is low.

Let me put it this way, if I had to do it all over again, I would never have messed with opiates. Don't get me wrong, I love them and have tried just about everything, well everything my narcotic keys would allow me to get to, but they have caused me a great deal of shit. And going to the Methadone clinic sucks.

It would be nice if opiates didn't cause the addiction they do!

[satori]

liquid. But i already said i was turning it down. I did turn it down the person was suprised because he was going to give it o me for 10 xanax lol. SO i just gave him the xnx when i decided not to get it. I didnt know at first how addictive it can be (for short term use, i consider short term 2 weeks). Didnt want to add to everything. I went off what little i was still on so that hopefuly codeine works well again. SOmeday. lol.

[GMorris]

I went to the clinic to get 'done about 4 years ago while trying to get over a serious Morphine habit. The first dose they gave me was 30mg, and it barely made me feel normal. I continued to increase until I got to 130mg, then they wouldn't give me anymore so I started getting the 10mg pills off the street to enhance my dose. Some days I'd take as much as 180mg and THEN I'd feel normal, but the 130 wore off too fast and then I'd be dopesick. Methadone is not one of my favorite opioids, and now I'll only take it to avoid withdrawal (which it is very good at, by the way).

Anyway, having said that, I can still remember my first experience with 'done. I was visiting a friend 200 miles away, and had no connections to get anything I liked, so I had to rely on him to help me out. At the time, I could easily down 5 or 6 10mg hydrocodones, so I figured my tolerance to be fairly high. The only connection my buddy had was a guy who was on the clinic and had a doctor giving him Darvocets (of all things), and he agreed to sell me some 'done. I told the guy what I was used to and my tolerance level, and he said that 20mg of 'done would probably buzz me good, so I bought it. It was the clear liquid (really great stuff), and he mixed it with some green Kool-Aid, which I drank. About 30 min. into it, I started to feel it, and I thought "this isn't so potent", but what I didn't realize was that it took a long time to really kick in. Two hours later, I was blitzed. I felt OK, but it was the middle of August in the deep south, humid and hot as hell even when the sun went down. The sweating was horribly uncomfortable, and I itched so bad I couldn't stand it. My buddy wanted to do all kind of things like visit other people and hang out outside, but all I wanted to do was sit in the air-conditioning and TRY to enjoy the feeling. Later that night, I leveled out and it got down to about 85 degrees F, so it wasn't as bad, but I was hating that I took that much and just wanted to come down some. That just wasn't about to happen anytime soon, and I knew it, so eventually I went back to my mother's house to spend the night. After several beers, I was actually feeling pretty good, as it seemed to overpower some of the negative side effects, and about 1AM I decided to go to bed. It was about 2 hours before I went to sleep, and a lucid sleep it was at that, with weird dreams and waking up every so often, but I figured that would be the end of it and awaited the next day. Not so. I "woke up" about 8 or 9AM to the smell of coffee and breakfast cooking, and I was at least as fucked up as I had been the night before! By this time I was getting used to the feeling and as long as I stayed inside I was fairly comfortable. I stayed blasted all that day, and even woke up the NEXT day with a little buzz! I swore I'd never touch the shit again, but many years later the monkey had me by the balls and that was my only option besides severe withdrawal. Funny though, after I had gotten on the Morphine for a while, I barely could feel the Methadone at all. That first time will always be a memory for me, and I hope that I never encounter a drug that does me like that again. Now, I could probably buzz really good from 80mg even though I'm back on Morphine. Methadone is a strange and powerful drug, and not something to play with unless you're REALLY hard core.

[poppy]

Does everyone sweat on meth or is it just me?
Laters

[Tar_Baby]

When I was younger I had a tolerance similar to yours but with Oxycodone which is a bit stronger than codeine. 5mg of Methadone would give me a buzz for a 15 hours or so and then some shitty tired dirty feelings for another 24 hours. I'm not sure if you'll enjoy it. It's not something you'll enjoy the first time you do it. You may get kinda sick from it and throw up, I never did but it used to make me feel kinda gross. It's something that you grow into I guess. The more I took it the more I liked it so be careful. A few things could happen with 5mg, you could get sick, you could get a nice buzz for a long time, or it may not be enough to get you a buzz. But it probably is if you get a buzz on 50mg of codeine. 5mg of Methadone is way stronger than 50mg of codeine. I take 55 mg everyday but only because I have a tolerance. It still gives me a buzz everyday and i've been on it for years. Anyways, I wouldnt take 10mg, always start slow. If you take 5mg and you enjoy it then you know that you can take it the next time and you probably wont have any negative effects. If it's not enough, take 10mg (total) not an extra 10mg with the 5mg!!!! And see what happens. Keep in mind Methadone takes 30mins to 1 hour or so to kick in at all and it could even take longer so wait 2-3 hours before taking another 5mg, trust me you dont want to take 5mg and then take more thinking it wasnt working and an hour later you end up sick as hell and choking on your own tongue. Also, beware of intense itchiness. I itch like a Saigon whore when I take my methadone. Don't freak out about it, just keep itching and try not to think about it. It actually feels kinda good to itch lol. Also don't drink any grapefruit juice. It can react with methadone and other pain medicines and make them stronger, but it really has an effect with methadone. It even comes with a warning about grapefruit juice on the bottles so I dont screw around with it just incase. Another thing to keep in mind, Methadone will last a long time. 24+ hours probably since you are not an addict. So be prepared for hours of sedation and itchiness. Anyways thats just some stuff i thought I should say so you wont go kill yourself by accident or something. 5mg could even be too strong, it's probably not but who knows, I'm not a doctor so don't sue me if anything happens. I'm just giving you the best advice i can think of from my past experiences. Oh and one more thing, if you get 70mg of methadone don't take 5mg everyday until it runs out or you will end up ADDICTED. Don't even take it more than once a week or you may end up addicted because it sticks in the blood for quite a long time.. Peace!!!!! Take care, have fun!

I take 160 mgs a day for years now...Keep in mind that although you will start to feel it in 30 mins to an hour, it takes 4 hours for peak blood level to kick in.
Also if you od on methadone its very dangerous as they will have to re administer narcan every 8 hours because the narcan wears off and the methadone doesnt...So you can actually fall back out multiple times. Its important if you ever od to let the medics know it was methadone specifically.

[satori]

This is a pretty old post. Turned it down a long time ago.