Trying Acid for the 1st Time

[Pandora]

Hey guys!

I'm going to try acid for the first time this weekend. My boyfriend got 2 free doses on sugar cubes from one of his real good friends. I guess apparently one of the cubes this guy had is a double dose, but it got mixed in, so someone could end up with that.

Anyways, just wondering if you guys have any good advice or experiences to share. I've only tripped out one and that was on shrooms and I had a blast, but I felt like it lasted so long and for a few hours at the end I felt like I was going to have permanant brain damage and was majorly tripping out about it haha!

Anyways...any fun stories, advice, things we could do while tripping (It's me, my boyfriend, and a few of our friends - they all are seasoned trippers but it's my first time so I'm a little nervous!).

Thanks!

-Pandora

[limitless_euphoria]

Hey guys!

I'm going to try acid for the first time this weekend. My boyfriend got 2 free doses on sugar cubes from one of his real good friends. I guess apparently one of the cubes this guy had is a double dose, but it got mixed in, so someone could end up with that.

Anyways, just wondering if you guys have any good advice or experiences to share. I've only tripped out one and that was on shrooms and I had a blast, but I felt like it lasted so long and for a few hours at the end I felt like I was going to have permanant brain damage and was majorly tripping out about it haha!

Anyways...any fun stories, advice, things we could do while tripping (It's me, my boyfriend, and a few of our friends - they all are seasoned trippers but it's my first time so I'm a little nervous!).

Thanks!

-Pandora

First off Pandora, is it me or do your avatar pics keep getting more and more provocative?

Second, as a veteran of acid trips, I would say you definitely do NOT want to do it alone. You want to make sure you're in a good atmosphere, around people that don't freak you out or that can calm you down if you do freak a little, and line up some interesting and/or fun things to do while your trip can last 6-12 hours (depending on how many mcgs of LSD there are on each cube). If you start to get a little paranoid, remember that you are in control of your mind, and don't let it get away from you. It works better than some might think.

It can be a lot of fun but, especially after watching last night's "Intervention" about the dude John that drank lots of beers, smoked lots of weed, and tripped out on acid, ecstasy and shrooms a lot. I'm just glad I don't have ready access to a buttload of psychedelics or I'd probably fuck up my mind but good.

Acid is one of those things that's a rare treat for me. I have access to it maybe every 6-12 months if even. It's all for the best. I suspect you're either really going to like it or it's not going to do that much for you. IF you really do like it remember doing it all the time really can mess you up—even more so than doing a lot of drinking or opiates.

So, moral of the story, plan some fun things to do, be safe, be in a good setting, and have a friend/sig. other with you as it's not a good plan to do acid alone. Let us know how it works out!

[nick]

Don't go anywhere near a butcher's shop.Dead meat and LSD.....shudder.

Oh and always remember THIS IS JUST A DRUG REACTION.

[clinton]

keep people around you, try not to go into public, don't drive ,and remember dear its all in your head

[Pandora]

[quote=limitless_euphoria;234100]First off Pandora, is it me or do your avatar pics keep getting more and more provocative?

Do you mean that in a good or bad way? That's the most provocative they get. Well, as provocative as they'll ever get on the internet.

If they offend anyone, please let me know, and I'll change it. I don't want to make anyone uncomfortable, that is a tad racy.

Second, as a veteran of acid trips, I would say you definitely do NOT want to do it alone. You want to make sure you're in a good atmosphere, around people that don't freak you out or that can calm you down if you do freak a little, and line up some interesting and/or fun things to do while your trip can last 6-12 hours (depending on how many mcgs of LSD there are on each cube). If you start to get a little paranoid, remember that you are in control of your mind, and don't let it get away from you. It works better than some might think.

Yea, we'll probably just be at a friend's house, and I'll be around a group of my good friends including my boyfriend who all have a lot of experience tripping, so hopefully if I freak out, I'll be okay. When I did shrooms I never freaked out, but I know they can be very different from each other. Thanks for the advice about getting paranoid - will definitely come in handy!



So, moral of the story, plan some fun things to do, be safe, be in a good setting, and have a friend/sig. other with you as it's not a good plan to do acid alone. Let us know how it works out!


Thanks for the advice L/E, you were very kind and helpful, and it is much appreciated. Are there any like, specific activities you like to partake in while trippin'?

-Pandora

[Papa Verine]

Right, it will end. Don't let your mind trick yourself into thinking it's permanent. That's a common thing while on acid. Also, I tripped many, many times and I don't have any permanent brain damage from it. Just remember these words... "Go with it!"

[Princess]

For me, acid is completely different that shrooms.
I'm trying to think... it's been a LONG time... but I used to enjoy: cigarette smoke (to watch), plain textured walls, clouds, bowls of cereal (Captain Crunch told me some nice things).

I didn't like: The backache the next day, mirrors... and I'll think of more...

[Pandora]

For me, acid is completely different that shrooms.
I'm trying to think... it's been a LONG time... but I used to enjoy: cigarette smoke (to watch), plain textured walls, clouds, bowls of cereal (Captain Crunch told me some nice things).

I didn't like: The backache the next day, mirrors... and I'll think of more...

Yea, I've been told acid is more of an electric, synthetic trip whereas shrooms are more natural. I don't know, I've never tried it, but maybe that makes sense to people that have.

I remember when I tripped out on shrooms my boyfriend, his best friend, and I went walking through a park for hours and hours, wandering through the woods. I just remember laughing constantly, I was having a blast, and all the trees were moving. Then we went over by this big lake and laid and looked at the clouds. It was crazy fun.

The one thing I hated was kissing. My boyfriend and I went in to kiss each other and we were both repulsed by it after we tried. I was just wayyyy too weird. And usually I love kissing. And we both had the same reaction. I wonder why that is?

Anyway, thanks for the advice everyone?

PTO Mom: How come it gave you a backache? Doesn't ecstasy do that too? Seriously, I really want to try ecstasy too that isn't bunk. I've attempted to roll at least 3 times, but I always get bunk rolls.

Anyway, back to the topic:
LSD! :p

[I-Nod]

Just remember these words... "Go with it!"

Holy shit... we used to say that too. Where'd it come from, amigo , you happen to know? Pretty funny...

I can definitely attest that taking acid does NOT make you a crazy. (right??:confused:) Pure propaganda. I think:p
The one thing I'd learned after several hundred doses, is that there are times you Have to remind yourself that you dosed. It's normal to see shit from every angle possible. In fact, that is one of the best attributes to me...

And it's good you have people that are experienced there. They will probably guide the trip. Have fun Pandora!! I'm VERY jealous!! :D Can't find that shit anymore.

Feel free to send any pics that you think are TOO provocative to me for further review.
I'M JOKING AROUND!!!




Umm.. opio-tard@flaxseed.com or fleetingjoke@RamenNoodles.com :D :p "Turn it up..."

[Nate]

I remeber my virst mushroom trip and ill never forget it, ah but it's so long so I won't bother getting into it, but I maintained a good trip the whole time, but chain smoked a pack of smokes in like a 3 hour peroid, funny thing too was that I was the only one who had smokes out of like 10 people, I remeber everyone asking for a drag, I would be like sure. Then proceed to smoke the whole thing the relight another, man I miss the fun of that day.

Would love to try acid one day, I love my mushroom trips - moments of pure bliss, but only with the right people, if someone starts having a bad trip or is acting sketchy, well then it's no fun and just ruins your trip (or worse have a really bad trip). Also have a sober person around, just incase, it's always good to have 1 sober person (KEY!!). This sober person should also have some valium/kpin to give to those whos trips go sour (or any benzo but longer the halflife the better.)

I don't really know how many people are gonna be on acid but if there are many of you, definetly have a sober person, hahaha oh the joy of a group of trippers out of control ;)

[upstate_007]

Sounds like a good time waiting to happen

The first time I took LSD was a doozy.

When the smoke cleared the next day all my bedroom furniture was broken, I had painted myself to look like a cartoon and I was a happy man. I took way way more than the recommended dose though. That night I became an atheist, knew what the Butthole Surfers were talking about, and had a new lease on life.

[limitless_euphoria]

Do you mean that in a good or bad way? That's the most provocative they get. Well, as provocative as they'll ever get on the internet.

If they offend anyone, please let me know, and I'll change it. I don't want to make anyone uncomfortable, that is a tad racy.

Well, hey, I don't mind. You're not too hard on the eyes. :)

Yea, we'll probably just be at a friend's house, and I'll be around a group of my good friends including my boyfriend who all have a lot of experience tripping, so hopefully if I freak out, I'll be okay. When I did shrooms I never freaked out, but I know they can be very different from each other. Thanks for the advice about getting paranoid - will definitely come in handy!

Thanks for the advice L/E, you were very kind and helpful, and it is much appreciated. Are there any like, specific activities you like to partake in while trippin'?

Ummm... let's see... watching TV is kinda weird. It actually doesn't look real. The last time I did it at home it was before I had HDTV so I'd love to trip and watch that but regular TV looks fake. It's like, you see it for the pixels that comprise the pictures.

Glow sticks and raver gear is kind of neat. I've had the chance to experience that a couple of times. I'm not sure if you have any friends that would share it with you or maybe if you could get some shiny things to look at those are a blast.

If you smoke a little bud on top of the trip... you might want to eat a little... but food does weird stuff. I had this bowl of spaghetti and I could NOT quite manage to eat it as it looked like wiggling worms crawling around.

I was with my friend and we started having these really deep conversations. You can concentrate on what would ordinarily be an arbitrary or boring thing and analyze the shit out of it. You'll see.

Plus, have some tunes ready. I love listening to headphones tripping. It's like 3D sound and if you have Winamp or the Microsoft Mediaplayer put on the visuals to go with the songs. It SHOULD drive you WILD. It did for me anyway. I did that right after my buds went home (we tripped from 10 at night til 6 in the morning). One guy was still tripping a little too much but he only had a short distance to go home and he promised he had come down enough to handle it. He wasn't seeing shit that wasn't actually there so he was okay. If I had it to do over I would have made him stay another hour or two. Oh well, thank God it all worked out.

Plus, I've had sex on acid a few times. OH MAN, IDK about others but it made me a horndog. My wife and I never did it together but she and I someday would love to trip together when we have a babysitter and have wild crazy monkey sex. I'm not sure about a girl's libido but I know I was able to perform just fine. I hope that's not TMI.

Hope you enjoy. And again, I'll be interested to read about your experience. :)

[nick]

Here's one for you.It's weird,but true.Use a tennis ball to play catch with someone else tripping.Concentrate and in time it's like you both develop telepathy.Try it.


Oh and Upstate.I've always enjoyed listening to the surfers while tripping,especially Rembrandt pussyhorse.

[Princess]

Here's one for you.It's weird,but true.Use a tennis ball to play catch with someone else tripping.Concentrate and in time it's like you both develop telepathy.Try it.


Oh and Upstate.I've always enjoyed listening to the surfers while tripping,especially Rembrandt pussyhorse.

HOLY SHIT! YES the tennis ball catch!! That's a good one!

And that's what I did when starting at a wall... listened to Butthole Surfers on the headphones.
WEIRD!!

[Seedy]

For god's sake don't just sit around with nothing to do, don't watch tv or dvd's, play computer games, etc. Go out for a walk, nature is awesome. Go play in a playground, become a child again. Stay away from drunk people! They can be scary.

And don't take it if you're feeling down, this can lead to disaster. And if it's your first tmie don't smoke weed! It can really add to the paranoia. Maybe have some benzos on hand incase the fear kicks in.

I'm off to a big outdoor concert today, gonna have a bit of acid just to make things interesting! :)

[nick]

HOLY SHIT! YES the tennis ball catch!! That's a good one!

And that's what I did when starting at a wall... listened to Butthole Surfers on the headphones.
WEIRD!!

"Great" minds trip a like huh.

[SeVeN]

Just do what u feel you should. Make sure your ready and intend to have fun. And like someone said already just remember your on acid before you go and convince yourself of some crazy "truth" youv'e learned. I love shrooms but i think they are definately a different beast than acid. Have fun and if your boyfriend has a plaid shirt tell him to wear it (youll understand y when u see it).

Oh and also if you thought shrooming lasted a long time be prepared to be blown away. Good lsd might take 1-2 hours before it fully kicks in and you will most likely be fucked up (if not tripping) the next day.

For me the best part about acid aside from sometimes great visuals is the way you think. Its like your finaly truly understanding things. I try to explain it like there is a "filter" before information gets to your brain that you aren't aware is there until you take acid.

OH and I know this post has gotten longer than I intended but i could talk forever about this.....ANYWAY plug some christmas lights up in a room. Turn the lights of be amazed (it looks like fireworks if u r having good visuals) HAVE FUN!

[Nate]

Here's one for you.It's weird,but true.Use a tennis ball to play catch with someone else tripping.Concentrate and in time it's like you both develop telepathy.Try it.

Oh man now that's something I want to experience! Just staring at the other person constantly throwing the ball back and forth, WOW, trippy.

[WarmCyanide]

dont take both cubes your first time.

and DONT fight it if it becomes too much. it will impose itself on you.

like others said here, have a babysitter whos taken it before and realize the effect will wear off eventually.


and DONT stare into a mirror when youre peaking

[Pandora]

Wow, thanks for all the responses! You guys are awesome.

Nick - I will definitely try that tennis ball idea. Sounds like a blast.

L/E - Thanks for the compliment! :o And thanks again for all of your advice, you're very kind and helpful!

Nate - I was wondering about you the other day. Were you gone for a bit? Glad to see you posting again!

And yea, we're going to have 5 people trippin'...but there isn't going to be a sober person, except maybe my boyfriend's little brother (he's almost 17). So hopefully things won't get too crazy.

I-Nod - You're always so nice. Thanks for the advice. Maybe if you're really nice to me I'll send you some sexy pictures. Hehe.

Again, thanks everyone. You guys rock!

Love,
Pandora

[Hookahed]

Surround yourself with funny friends and ease your way into it. Make jokes about the simplest of things and soon you will all be laughing your asses of. After the laughter phase subsides try MUSIC. Listen to it sorta loud with the TV on but TV volume off. Synchronicity will amuse you. If the weather is decent take a walk outside and look at the clouds and trees beauth of nature. If you have pets bond with them. They will sense that you are more yourself.

Avatars seem a little tame Pandora..... let us know how it went.

[Princess]

I'd be careful of that double dose one.... for your first experience. yikes.

The playground thing is a good idea...with the stars and all. I remember I used to LOVE lights.
Drunk people acting foolish is a no-no. And the babysitter idea is good too. You don't want to be left alone with any strange men either.

I do remember looking in the mirror once, trying to talk to my mother, YES MY MOTHER, and I was like fucking Medusa... snakes and shit coming out of my head. I almost screamed, but thank GOD I wasn't new to acid and knew to shut the fuck up. (my dad was a cop!)

As far as the backache, I don't remember the reason I once heard for it... but never remember having it with E (and I did that far more recently than acid). For some reason, I just remember the backaches. My back has been fucked since I was about 11 years old, so I've always had that pain and was able to notice when it was intensified.

[limitless_euphoria]

For god's sake don't just sit around with nothing to do, don't watch tv or dvd's, play computer games, etc. Go out for a walk, nature is awesome. Go play in a playground, become a child again. Stay away from drunk people! They can be scary.

And don't take it if you're feeling down, this can lead to disaster. And if it's your first tmie don't smoke weed! It can really add to the paranoia. Maybe have some benzos on hand incase the fear kicks in.

I'm off to a big outdoor concert today, gonna have a bit of acid just to make things interesting! :)

OH YEAH, concerts and acid go together like PB and J. I saw Ozzy tripping and stoned and it kicked fucking ass!!!

[Cherry's Jubilee]

Ugh! (shudder). I hate acid. I once got in a fight with myself trying to convince myself not to run away. Never, never, never again. If you're a high-strung control-freak prone to anxiety and reading too much into things, acid is a very bad idea. If you're a mellow, laid-back chick (as you seem to be) you'll probably have a good time. :)

[reddragon3668]

I've never done shrooms, but I used to love doing acid back when I was a kid. Anything with lights is cool. Growing up in the country, we didn't have allot of stuff to entertain us besides hunting and drugs. Sitting around a room with a black light and some of those velvet posters that look cool in black lights was great. We'd listen to Ted Nugent, smoke weed, and trip for hours. Also, sitting beside the highway watching the headlights pass was fun too.

When I first moved to Ft. Wayne, IN, I got a job in a cafeteria as a cook. Me and the KP guy became good friends and right at the end of the night one day, we decided to both drop a hit of acid. I got off work an hour or so before he did, and thinking it wouldn't be too bad, he took his when I took mine. It was in a Mall, so I went to the arcade to hang until he got off. They had this game that I used to love to play.. a little western guy with six shooters going down the center of town, shooting guys as they popped up over the roof tops and come out of windows and shit. I was playing when the trip started and the damn thing freaked me out. I had to quit playing.

I go back to the cafeteria to see if by buddy was done yet. It was his job to clean up the kitchen and shit at the end of the night. He'd spray down the floors and mop and shit. I walk into the kitchen to find him standing in ankle deep water (the drains had stopped up) and he was spraying the frickin ceiling tiles, laughing his ass off. I have never laughed so hard in my life!

After he got fired.. LOL, we went back to my place and finished the night off smoking some bud and watching David Lee Roth on MTV. I don't normally care for him, but he's a trip on acid. Also, I remember that my toilet tank kept runnning, and that really tripped me out. Something about the constant hum of the water running.

You'll have fun, Pandora. Just heed the advice everyone's given you here and you'll do just fine. I am looking forward to the update when its over. I hope you enjoy! Be safe!

[Dan Steely]

I don't know if it's a given or if its already been mentioned but opies go very nicely with lsd. They do kind of take it down a notch though so you may want to hold out until the later half of your trip.

Hands down, no contest, yada..., Pink Floyd.

[Andysgirl]

Take all the advice you got from above. Especially don't trip alone. Never a good idea. I always found that having some oranges around help. Why you ask? If for some reason you start freaking out, a orange will take your mind off it. i.e. The smell, texture, taste.. Just a little lesson from my many, many trips. I spent way too much of my 20's tripping. Have a good and safe time. Oh, and someone else said it...Stay away from drunk people!! They are the scariest when your tripping.

[Pandora]

I've never done shrooms, but I used to love doing acid back when I was a kid. Anything with lights is cool. Growing up in the country, we didn't have allot of stuff to entertain us besides hunting and drugs. Sitting around a room with a black light and some of those velvet posters that look cool in black lights was great. We'd listen to Ted Nugent, smoke weed, and trip for hours. Also, sitting beside the highway watching the headlights pass was fun too.

When I first moved to Ft. Wayne, IN, I got a job in a cafeteria as a cook. Me and the KP guy became good friends and right at the end of the night one day, we decided to both drop a hit of acid. I got off work an hour or so before he did, and thinking it wouldn't be too bad, he took his when I took mine. It was in a Mall, so I went to the arcade to hang until he got off. They had this game that I used to love to play.. a little western guy with six shooters going down the center of town, shooting guys as they popped up over the roof tops and come out of windows and shit. I was playing when the trip started and the damn thing freaked me out. I had to quit playing.

I go back to the cafeteria to see if by buddy was done yet. It was his job to clean up the kitchen and shit at the end of the night. He'd spray down the floors and mop and shit. I walk into the kitchen to find him standing in ankle deep water (the drains had stopped up) and he was spraying the frickin ceiling tiles, laughing his ass off. I have never laughed so hard in my life!

After he got fired.. LOL, we went back to my place and finished the night off smoking some bud and watching David Lee Roth on MTV. I don't normally care for him, but he's a trip on acid. Also, I remember that my toilet tank kept runnning, and that really tripped me out. Something about the constant hum of the water running.

You'll have fun, Pandora. Just heed the advice everyone's given you here and you'll do just fine. I am looking forward to the update when its over. I hope you enjoy! Be safe!

Thats a great story, red! Thanks for sharing, I enjoyed reading that...sounds like you had blast.

Dan Steely - Thanks for reminding me.

I wanted to ask other people's opinions about mixing opies with it after I've been tripping for a while. Would it be a waste of the opies, should I save them for after I'm done tripping (I have a very slow cash flow right now so I always try to make the absolute MOST of my opie high these days)?

Sicily - I can be rather high-strung sometimes. I have a lot of anxiety. I am pretty chill, but I definitely have my estrogen-overload moments. Haha. I'll keep that in mind that it may intensify that - good point!

PTO Mom - Yeah, I'm definitely hoping I don't get that double dose.

I was thinking of just dissolving half the cube on my tongue and seeing how I feel, just to make sure I don't take way too much. What do you guys think - is that a good idea?

Thanks to everyone else for their ideas as well!

[Nadster]

Shit, I haven't done acid since high school - 13-14 years ago... *sigh* Good times.

Watching Pink Floyd - The Wall was the most intense experience ever. I still, to this day, have no stinkin' clue what the hell the movie is about (never did watch it sober). The only other thing I can remember is that I walked into some stranger's cottage, lol.

Yeah, make sure you have a babysitter.

[Nate]

The Wall is the trippiest movie I have ever seen, I can only imagine trying to watch it while tripping.

[allyouneedislove]

PTO Mom - Yeah, I'm definitely hoping I don't get that double dose.


I was thinking of just dissolving half the cube on my tongue and seeing how I feel, just to make sure I don't take way too much. What do you guys think - is that a good idea?


Thanks to everyone else for their ideas as well!



2 hits of acid shouldn't be too much, in my opinion. then again, psychedelics are my favorite kind of drug besides opiates.

[I'm-Nod-Addicted]

I've done acid a few times. Acid blows mushrooms away- IMO.

Man I remember my first acid trip like it was yesterday (actually 12 years ago). We ditched school and dropped. Then we laid on the roof of my house while listening to The Orb and watched the clouds for a while. It was AMAZING!!!!!!!!

Then we went inside and watched the cartoon network for a few hours..that was pretty cool.

We actually tried to play tennis but that didn't really work. It was fun though, watching the ball turn into a bright green trail flying through the air. I'm pretty sure we ended up rolling around on the ground laughing after about ten minutes.

I remember feeling that I truly understood how the world worked. My buddy was convinced I was the devil...luckily that only lasted an hour or so.

I never took more than one dose of acid. And I never had a "bad trip".

HAVE FUN!!!!!

[underide]

and DONT stare into a mirror when youre peaking

Just don't stare into a mirror period. (while on acid)

You might find yourself on the other side of it:rolleyes:

really though^^, not recommedned.
a comfy warm place is always a plus.
there is something frightening about tripping out in the cold for some reason

[WarmCyanide]

Just don't stare into a mirror period. (while on acid)

You might find yourself on the other side of it:rolleyes:

really though^^, not recommedned.
a comfy warm place is always a plus.
there is something frightening about tripping out in the cold for some reason

if you freak out put ice on your genitals

[Hiram]

2 hits of acid shouldn't be too much, in my opinion. then again, psychedelics are my favorite kind of drug besides opiates.


"2 hits" means nothing unless you know how many mics are in each hit. It's hard to say how diluted the crystal is when you're dealing with liquid. Best to start slow. I say stay away from The Wall on acid and stick with Pink Floyd Audio like Animals or the album Wish You Were Here or even Water's solo stuff and enjoy the ride. LSD is still my favorite drug, even though I haven't taken any for several years. LSD is way better than mushrooms IMO.

[WarmCyanide]

"2 hits" means nothing unless you know how many mics are in each hit. It's hard to say how diluted the crystal is when you're dealing with liquid. Best to start slow. I say stay away from The Wall on acid and stick with Pink Floyd Audio like Animals or the album Wish You Were Here or even Water's solo stuff and enjoy the ride. LSD is still my favorite drug, even though I haven't taken any for several years. LSD is way better than mushrooms IMO.


applause ^^^^^

LSD more of a commitment then shroooms though

[dharma bum]

I was in awe my first time tripping. Felt like a deeper but hidden reality had always been there. Like I-Nod said it allows you to see things from a different angle. And it allows you to see through the bullshit in this world.
This is all great advice here from everybody. I hope you enjoy and be thankful.
It fell off the map here in my small town after '95-96 or so. Some chemist got busted making it in an old missile silo and the article said it reduced availability 95 %.
And yeah, it will end. I was tripping with a girl who thought the sun wasn't going to come up. Forever dark.
But yeah, set and setting. It can be intense if its good. Just stay in the moment. Go with it. I've had some of the best times of my life on LSD....but I've also had some really bad ones. Existential turmoil. I always kepts a few xans on hands in case it turned really ugly I could check out...bye all...be safe Pandora.

[Cherry's Jubilee]

if you freak out put ice on your genitals

:hanglooseExcellent advice! I think that applies to almost any situation...

[Pandora]

if you freak out put ice on your genitals

Haha, I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for the advice, WC.

[SpecialGuy69]

if you freak out put ice on your genitalsgood advice for any situation.

Here's the things that helped me have fun with LSD- its pretty basic shit and if your experienced with mushrooms you already know it, but here goes anyways:

Make sure you have plenty of benzos on hand, and something to help you sleep after. Not ambien/lunesta- they can bring your trip back a little, making it harder to sleep.

Take a small-to-medium dose of your benzo as you take the lsd, so that it hits you before the acid does. That way, it will keep you calm as your trip comes on (which can be an intimidating and powerful feeling).

Make sure you have at least 12 hours to devote to tripping (at least) and plenty of time after to catch up on sleep.

Don't bother to make elaborate plans for what to do while you're tripping, you'll forget or the mood will strike you to do something different anyways.

Have a pen and paper handy, because sometimes you have powerful insights that are very fleeting, and you'll forget them within minutes, leaving you with "I just had the most incredible idea but I forgot it"

Eat a nice meal before you dose, because in all likelihood, you won't be eating for 12 hours or more, which can give you a minor stomach ache.

Make sure you aren't going to have to pass yourself off as sober to family/work. Its not like opiates where you can totally function. You will be fucked up and people can tell.

Old-school trippy screen savers are fun to watch, and being outside is nice if the weather is good- it sucks to be cold or wet while your tripping.

Let someone else dose first, so you can judge how much to take. Take a smallish amount, you can always take more but you can't get it out of your system. This is particularly true of LSD- there is no narcan for acid.

Wait at least 2 hours before re-dosing. There's nothing scarier than realizing you just took WAY TOO MUCH ACID! This won't happen as long as you wait to re-dose.

Remember that no matter how fucked up you feel, it is temporary and it is the effects of a drug in your system, and you're not going crazy. Sounds simple, but easy to forget during a particularly intense trip.

[Hiram]

there is no narcan for acid.


The closest thing for a bad trip is Thorazine. I've tripped hundreds of times on sometimes mass amounts and never personally experienced a bad trip.

[upstate_007]

Man I remember my first acid trip like it was yesterday (actually 12 years ago). We ditched school and dropped. Then we laid on the roof of my house while listening to The Orb and watched the clouds for a while. It was AMAZING!!!!!!!!





I love it! I have not listened to The Orb is a long long time. One of the best times I have ever had was seeing them perform live at the Roseland in NYC back in 94 or 95. The version they did of "Towers of Dub" that night absolutely blew my mind. Similar to the one on the live cd they put out.

[Papa Verine]

I was once picking up acid for several people when I got pulled over. There were only 2 of us in the car and we had about 20 hits of acid. We got pulled over, split the 20 hits, and ate them.

We didn't even get searched! But it was too late. We went to a forest preserve (They have those here) and didn't come out until the next day.

That was the day I realized everything in life is CIRCLES. Although, now, I'm not quite sure what that meant.

Have fun Pandora. Don't put any ice on your genitals.

[Raz]

I tripped for the 1st time in jail.We and my cell mate really got into magazines ,i still remember saying "heavy duty complex man" about a house i liked in a photo...He was a veteran tripper and tried gettin me to look in a mirror, but i wasnt havin it.I was happy wiv my heavy duty complex man..

[Pandora]

I have a friend who loves to stare into mirrors when he's tripping.

He'll be there.

So I'm glad you guys let me know it's not the best idea. Because I'm sure he'd be telling me it's the shit - becaues he really thinks it is.

The consensus is definitely against the mirrors though, huh?

Oh, and OPIATES!!! To mix, or not to mix? That is the question.

[Seedy]

I'd mix with opies if i was you, or at least have a good healthy afterglow. when u taking it?

[Raz]

I think the mirror thing is all about tryin to go too deep into yourself when trippin, but ones mans poisen..I would just concentrate on enjoyin the experience and get a good vibe goin..

[Soda]

Hey guys!

I'm going to try acid for the first time this weekend. My boyfriend got 2 free doses on sugar cubes from one of his real good friends. I guess apparently one of the cubes this guy had is a double dose, but it got mixed in, so someone could end up with that.

Anyways, just wondering if you guys have any good advice or experiences to share. I've only tripped out one and that was on shrooms and I had a blast, but I felt like it lasted so long and for a few hours at the end I felt like I was going to have permanant brain damage and was majorly tripping out about it haha!

Anyways...any fun stories, advice, things we could do while tripping (It's me, my boyfriend, and a few of our friends - they all are seasoned trippers but it's my first time so I'm a little nervous!).

Thanks!

-Pandora

I've always heard that the little papers, the tabs, are much better and safer than the sugar cubes, maybe cause sugar cubes suggest they were made in a setting that wasn't a lab...but I dont want to ruin your trip with bad vibes...i dont really do acid personally but wish you the best it will be fun i think i have a feeling...

[Pandora]

I've always heard that the little papers, the tabs, are much better and safer than the sugar cubes, maybe cause sugar cubes suggest they were made in a setting that wasn't a lab...but I dont want to ruin your trip with bad vibes...i dont really do acid personally but wish you the best it will be fun i think i have a feeling...

Yea I was real paranoid about trying it, that i'd end up poisoning myself. My friend who's a seasoned tripper bought a bunch of doses from the same batch and has already tried it out - got his stamp of approval.

Taking it this weekend...Friday or Saturday.

[dharma bum]

Yeah definitely...no mirrors...acid is all about dissolving the ego...seems like staring into a mirror would make you hang on. Try to hang on and you are screwed.

[Soda]

I was going to make a joke about Pandora's box being opened, and then realized how horribly sexual it would sound.

[ein0606]

I was going to make a joke about Pandora's box being opened, and then realized how horribly sexual it would sound.


i remember someone asked pandora how her box was a few months ago.

[Cherry's Jubilee]

I was going to make a joke about Pandora's box being opened, and then realized how horribly sexual it would sound.

Wait, I thought that was intentionally implied by her avatar...No?

[Soda]

Unless she has the intellect and 6th sense of ten Hannibal Lecters, no, I don't think it was implied. Her name is just Pandora. It's a pretty name that has nothing to do with the female reproductive organs. I think this is a question that shouldn't be answered by me, though. Pandora, is your name some kind of vagina reference?

[Cherry's Jubilee]

Unless she has the intellect and 6th sense of ten Hannibal Lecters, no, I don't think it was implied. Her name is just Pandora. It's a pretty name that has nothing to do with the female reproductive organs. I think this is a question that shouldn't be answered by me, though. Pandora, is your name some kind of vagina reference?

No no no no. Please don't get me wrong here! I sincerely thought that the choice of her UserName and her Avatar together was an intentional funny reference to Pandora's Box. Right?

Username: Pandora
Her Avatar: Pandora's box

I really have thought that all this time. If not, and it's just a funny coincidence, I am sorry!

[Soda]

No you're probably right, if it says Pandora's box somewhere or if she's showing her box somewhere than she wouldn't need the mental power of ten hannibal lecters to create that play on words.

[starglazer33]

definitly take the whole cube it may not be that strong don't be afraid your already anticipating it too much. if its good just have a great time with close friends and youll be sharing thoughts before you know it. this drug if taken correctly in the correct setting is a one way ticket to the astral plane spirit world. i even went to mexico to do peyote in san lois potise -sp
just don't worry if you start all that worrying you might not have a good time

Timothy Leary created what was called the metaprogramming formula through real lsd which is rare. what it is is when your about 3-6 yrs old when your walking and talking for yourself your developing whats called thought patterns.(actual imprints on the brain) you know how hard it is to break a habit (smoke off my cig) well you simply cannot change your thought patterns. now what leary discovered and acheived mind you was during your peak(the hour or two when its most intense) the receptors in your brain begin to dilate like a pupil (best way to put it)analoguos)) so you can actually change your life with this drug. i've tripped more times than one can say and i recommend no opiates! it'll be a waste and you'll need em for coming down and that back thing, its true.
but like raz says one mans poison. i don't mind mirrors at all but you can get lost there too, so maybe not for beginners.

everyone is different with this drug save for the metaprogramming whether you want it or not. your peak will happan and your brain will change its almost always for the better.:D its majick for the real! one specific terrific drug. Tim Leary's motto "its the key to the universe man, tune in drop out and free your mind.

sex for woman is great causes easy multiple's while the opposite is true for men? but alas everyone is diffferent. the taboo surrounding this drug is a phenomenon in and of itself. i love it and think most poeple should try it at leasst 3 times in appropriate settings yet iv'e actually met some super anal and uptight people that i would not recommend it for cause to me thier dead already.

key is comfortablilty safe settings and don't go around other poeple who'll be like "ohh wow man your trippin blah blah" and continually tryin ti fuck with you. it comes off queerish and sometimes offsets your comfort zone which is most important.

music your favorites and some new stuff, candles a necessity imo. food though you won't eat it cuz your above it and it will seem foreign, oj oranges vit c helps the visuals. lots of drinks not alcohol it has no effect if the stuff is any good but can cause trouble in certain users (almost said subjects lol) read too much about the psychology of it)), i love acid, psychadelia, shrooms. it truely is a love drug the colors of a room can really affect you. Scott and me once tripped real hard ended up in a mall and in it was one of those old k-bees toystores for kids one whole side of the shop was bright blue then in the middle one whole side was bright red and when we crossed that line in the carpet and walls n noticed the change it was unforgettable and inexplainable.

in the end just be yourself, fear is wrong anyway and the root of the worlds issues with itself and just have fun i've never laughed so hard with so many friends but be assured other people that are'nt tripping can bum you out.

i gotta go but would love to give more info

whole lotta luv...............sg33 matter of fact lotta led zepplin works good too.:)

[Pandora]

Haha...just to clear things up:

No, my user name is not an analogy to my avatar about my "box". I'm really not that clever, honestly.

You guys crack me up.

I think I shall change my avatar since it is inspiring dirty thoughts.

[Cherry's Jubilee]

Haha...just to clear things up:

No, my user name is not an analogy to my avatar about my "box". I'm really not that clever, honestly.

You guys crack me up.

I think I shall change my avatar since it is inspiring dirty thoughts.

I'm sorry Pandora! I really thought that was on purpose and a joke. You're adorable and I was not trying to be a bitch at all I just thought "oh ha ha Pandora's box, clever..." My bad.

[Pandora]

I'm sorry Pandora! I really thought that was on purpose and a joke. You're adorable and I was not trying to be a bitch at all I just thought "oh ha ha Pandora's box, clever..." My bad.

Oh, no offense taken in the least. I thought it was funny. I wish I was clever enough to do that on purpose! Haha. Alas, I am not. :p

[(inaudible screams)]

Just wondering: How many of you are able to buy lsd if you wanted to? I was able to get some in college, but it seems like a drug that just isn't around anymore.

It's a shame because I would really like to try it one more time before I am too old...

[Cherry's Jubilee]

Just wondering: How many of you are able to buy lsd if you wanted to? I was able to get some in college, but it seems like a drug that just isn't around anymore.

It's a shame because I would really like to try it one more time before I am too old...

Weird that's really true. Seems like it was everywhere when I was in high school...Maybe it's with the PCP and quaaludes.

[Hiram]

It really dried up for the majority of the US after the infamous silo bust in Kansas. There's always L in California.

[starglazer33]

chewing gum it help you to not grit your teeth oh and i though your avatar was awesome and pandora is ample enough to your beauty no offense. the pun unintendably- adorable, natural and well kinda cool i thought i rather liked the old avatar but your beautiful up close too. sorry so no offense.:o

one last thing as you bathe in anticipation you might just be letting yourself down. it could be great it could not be so great depends on how its handled keep it in a cool dry place. and the chemists ability and trust in himself. plus and someone please correct me if im wrong but iv'e never ever heard of an actual overdose on acid take too much and you just trip longer or might have black outs. not one medically reported case of terminal or eternal tripping just a literal ton of fables.

i used to get tons of it but its all over now! plus im old and tired and the stories are truly unbelievable.
yeah,californi is the place ya aughta be.

[Hookahed]

I'm with glazer in that this drug can change your mind/life for the better during the peak if you allow it to. Also wouldn't use benzos or opiates prior to peak the first time as they may dull the experience (for the lack of a better term). And yeah, avoid the mirror, save that for the MDMA.

[Hookahed]

Oh yeah, good quality LSD is readily available here in the Midwest. Go to a weekend long rock festival.

And Pandora, I always thought of your name as the proverbial Pandora's Box, not the one Soda spoke spoke of. (although that and your avatars got me to thinking too....)

[WarmCyanide]

It really dried up for the majority of the US after the infamous silo bust in Kansas. There's always L in California.

it was those two guys that had like fifty gallons of the stuff i think

[Seedy]

Just wondering: How many of you are able to buy lsd if you wanted to? I was able to get some in college, but it seems like a drug that just isn't around anymore.

It's a shame because I would really like to try it one more time before I am too old...

Here in New Zealand good acid is everywhere. It's what most kids get into after weed. In the last 4ish years I've tripped probably monthly and I've only had one sub-par hit. It was quite strong but just felt dirty - maybe been on the paper too long, real headfuck acid. Good clean fresh acid feels quite natural in comparison.

And as someone said, opiates can dull acid but imo it's in a good way - takes the edge off the potential mental turmiol, which is what can turn a trip pear shaped.

[Pandora]

Oh yeah, good quality LSD is readily available here in the Midwest. Go to a weekend long rock festival.

And Pandora, I always thought of your name as the proverbial Pandora's Box, not the one Soda spoke spoke of. (although that and your avatars got me to thinking too....)

Yea, that's how I meant it. I opened that box the day I tried opiates, and even if I try to close it, ya know...how it goes...

LSD is around every once in a while. Definitely not the huge scene it once was at least - have to meet the right people. But most things are like that, I guess.

[Hookahed]

Pure LSD125 is cheap as fuck to make with easy to obtain precursors. Purity depends on the experience and dedication of the chemist. Fresh is best too as everything is geting old.

[Fillthee]

Play twister at some point!! It's totally hilarious if your near peeking and having good visuals.

I also remember playing super mario 3 with a friend and for some reason it was the funnest thing ever at the time. Nature is always good as others have said (if it's nice out )

The first time I tripped I was at a carnival. It was a great first trip. The rides were unbelievable. Although the gravitron is the most horrible thing on acid. It made me feel like my heat was in my throat and my throat was closing.


Oh yeah and don't play with a bop-it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bop_It

It's just not safe ;)



Have a nice trip!

[dharma bum]

Those two guys Warm Cyanide mentioned were Clyde Apperson and William Pickard and had around 400 million (100 microgram) hits in stock. Apperson got thirty years, Picakard got 2 life sentences. The DEA stated ( you know you're gonna believe them) that this reduced LSD avaialability by 95 %

[Soda]

What they failed to take into consideration is the possibility that someone can have more than two lives to live.

[Hookahed]

Chemist/Sound Engineer/Artist/Essayist Owsley Stanley made most fo the LSD back in the 60's after it became illegal. His essays are an interesting read. http://www.thebear.org/essays.html

[Cherry's Jubilee]

Play twister at some point!! It's totally hilarious if your near peeking and having good visuals.

I also remember playing super mario 3 with a friend and for some reason it was the funnest thing ever at the time. Nature is always good as others have said (if it's nice out )

The first time I tripped I was at a carnival. It was a great first trip. The rides were unbelievable. Although the gravitron is the most horrible thing on acid. It made me feel like my heat was in my throat and my throat was closing.


Oh yeah and don't play with a bop-it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bop_It

It's just not safe ;)



Have a nice trip!

I fucking love bob-its! I forgot about that. I must go find it.

[I-Nod]

That was the day I realized everything in life is CIRCLES.

Ah yes! The Vicious Circle!

One I remember was (keep in mind I was 16yo)... "I can't get a job cuz I don't have a car, and I can't get a car cuz I don't have a job."

We thought we discovered the secret to life back then, haha. All of us became more enlightened for sure though... well, except for Mike. He went off into the woods by himself for about 5hrs... came back a changed man. Went to school to become a minister a year later.

What else... I remember "purple haze" had new meaning after looking at a streetlight. Oh... and curtains and walls seemed to "breathe". Ate an apple once and realized that apples are 95% liquid... all I was swallowing was juice... the "skin" of the apple was the only solid part. Just a bunch of little pockets of sweet apple juice held in a ball, how convenient... and a PLANT "thought" of this? Some great realization, huh? :p Was on acid though.

Eh... I could go on for hours. Would love to run into some again. I'm sure that day will come soon enough. Thanks to all of you for hashing up old memories!! :D Good times!!!

[underide]

^^^I had a friend who turned vegetarian after an acid trip. A vegetarian with a special revulsion for eggs.
He said it happened after he reflected on the fact that a chicken's egg is essentially her frozen period. Why he was even thinking about that - only he knows ofcourse.

It lasted over a year (his vegetarianism)
Or maybe his trip??:confused::p
Last time i saw him he was eating a ham sandwich

[Soda]

Oh yeah, good quality LSD is readily available here in the Midwest. Go to a weekend long rock festival.

And Pandora, I always thought of your name as the proverbial Pandora's Box, not the one Soda spoke spoke of. (although that and your avatars got me to thinking too....)

Oh come on its not like you dont have a dick too.

[starglazer33]

well how was it? i love to hear anyone's new experience with this particular drug


hope evrytings fine.........sg33

[Pandora]

A bunch of shit came up this weekend, so I still have the doses sittin' in my freezer. There was a family emergency and I ended up having to go stay with my dad and watch his kids for him all weekend.

So next weekend...and I will for sure leave an update, I can't wait!

[SpecialGuy69]

Pure LSD125 is cheap as fuck to make with easy to obtain precursors. Purity depends on the experience and dedication of the chemist. Fresh is best too as everything is geting old.
Ok I dont know where to begin. First off, you probably mean LSD-25= d-lysergic acid diethylamide? Second off, what is easy or cheap about obtaining ergotamine tartrate? Lysergic acid? or are you talking about growing claviceps cultures that cause gangrene?

HBWR seeds will get you Lysergic Acid cheap, but LSA is not LSD.

LSD is one of the most difficult and expensive drugs to synth.

The DEA even says:
Their exclusivity is not surprising given that LSD synthesis is a difficult process to master. Although cooks need not be formally trained chemists, they must adhere to precise and complex production procedures. In instances where the cook is not a chemist, the production recipe most likely was passed on by personal instruction from a formally trained chemist. Further supporting the premise that most LSD manufacture is the work of a small fraternity of chemists, virtually all the LSD seized during the 1980's was of consistently high purity and sold in relatively uniform dosages of 20 to 80 micrograms.LSD commonly is produced from lysergic acid, which is made from ergotamine tartrate, a substance derived from an ergot fungus on rye, or from lysergic acid amide, a chemical found in morning glory seeds. Although theoretically possible, manufacture of LSD from morning glory seeds is not economically feasible and these seeds never have been found to be a successful starting material for LSD production. Lysergic acid and lysergic acid amide are both classified in Schedule III of the Controlled Substances Act. Ergotamine tartrate is regulated under the Chemical Diversion and Trafficking Act.Ergotamine tartrate is not readily available in the United States, and its purchase by other than established pharmaceutical firms is suspect. Therefore, ergotamine tartrate used in clandestine LSD laboratories is believed to be acquired from sources located abroad, most likely Europe, Mexico, Costa Rica, and Africa. The difficulty in acquiring ergotamine tartrate may limit the number of independent LSD manufacturers. By contrast, illicit manufacture of methamphetamine and phencyclidine is comparatively more prevelant in the United States because, in part, precursor chemicals can be procured easily.

[Shotalotofdopeamus]

First: Been said but worth repeating - it is all in your head and it will end at some point.
Second: Have fun.

Personally i can not stand psychedelics anymore thanks to a bad scale, AMT, and deciding to go for a walk at 2:30am by myself. never again....

[NV12]

I was reading through the posts, getting closer to the end.... waiting to see what happened... then this:

A bunch of shit came up this weekend, so I still have the doses sittin' in my freezer. There was a family emergency and I ended up having to go stay with my dad and watch his kids for him all weekend.

So next weekend...and I will for sure leave an update, I can't wait!


Darn girl, I was kinda looking forward to hearing the end result... :D:( Oh well, I'll stay tuned in... closest I've ever been is E and I know you can't compare but still... always been a little curious about it... I'll just live vicariously through you :)

[Papa Verine]

Ok I dont know where to begin. First off, you probably mean LSD-25= d-lysergic acid diethylamide? Second off, what is easy or cheap about obtaining ergotamine tartrate? Lysergic acid? or are you talking about growing claviceps cultures that cause gangrene?

HBWR seeds will get you Lysergic Acid cheap, but LSA is not LSD.

LSD is one of the most difficult and expensive drugs to synth.

The DEA even says:
Their exclusivity is not surprising given that LSD synthesis is a difficult process to master. Although cooks need not be formally trained chemists, they must adhere to precise and complex production procedures. In instances where the cook is not a chemist, the production recipe most likely was passed on by personal instruction from a formally trained chemist. Further supporting the premise that most LSD manufacture is the work of a small fraternity of chemists, virtually all the LSD seized during the 1980's was of consistently high purity and sold in relatively uniform dosages of 20 to 80 micrograms.LSD commonly is produced from lysergic acid, which is made from ergotamine tartrate, a substance derived from an ergot fungus on rye, or from lysergic acid amide, a chemical found in morning glory seeds. Although theoretically possible, manufacture of LSD from morning glory seeds is not economically feasible and these seeds never have been found to be a successful starting material for LSD production. Lysergic acid and lysergic acid amide are both classified in Schedule III of the Controlled Substances Act. Ergotamine tartrate is regulated under the Chemical Diversion and Trafficking Act.Ergotamine tartrate is not readily available in the United States, and its purchase by other than established pharmaceutical firms is suspect. Therefore, ergotamine tartrate used in clandestine LSD laboratories is believed to be acquired from sources located abroad, most likely Europe, Mexico, Costa Rica, and Africa. The difficulty in acquiring ergotamine tartrate may limit the number of independent LSD manufacturers. By contrast, illicit manufacture of methamphetamine and phencyclidine is comparatively more prevelant in the United States because, in part, precursor chemicals can be procured easily.

AO, can't Ergotamine tartrate be made from Ergot? The common Rye fungus? I thought, I knew a chemist once who was starting with Ergot and making acid. Just curious what the difficulty of this would be?

[SpecialGuy69]

AO, can't Ergotamine tartrate be made from Ergot? The common Rye fungus? I thought, I knew a chemist once who was starting with Ergot and making acid. Just curious what the difficulty of this would be?kinda.

You can start with claviceps fungus, which produces ergotamine. BUT claviceps is dangerous- causes gangrene easily. Its a difficult fungus to culture, requires sterile atmosphere, etc. You need pure cultures of claviceps to cultivate enough ergotamine, and you are unlikely to find a pure enough sample at a grain mill to produce anything.

The OP was probably speaking of hawaiian baby woodrose seeds, which are a source of lysergic acid (LSA, NOT LSD). But to go LSA==>LSD from HBWR seeds is nearly impossible (as evidenced by the fact that no LSD lab busted by the DEA has ever even been attempting this method). If it worked, or was close enough to merit further testing, you would think that LSD labs (which typically have skilled chemists running them) would at least try something on the side.

It's just a hard synth. One of the most difficult. RJ was rating different drug synths on a scale of difficulty once (based on difficulty of steps, not experience, of course) and I think he put
2: pseudo==>meth, m==>H
4: codiene==>morphine
6: tryptamines
7: fentanyls
9: LSD
or something like that
point is, LSD is a difficult, 12+ step synth, requires hard-to-get chemicals, requires strong lab technique.

And fuckin imagine if you accidentally contaminated yourself with a gram of crystal LSD!

[WarmCyanide]

plus on top of all that doesn't it's synthesis require an oxygen free environment.

i read Albert hoffmans book when i was in high school "LSD my problem child"

then my mother threw it away haha.

when he tripped out accidentally he was flipping out on the fact that something that he brought

into this world all by himself is going to be the very thing that would take him out of it. imagine thinking that when youre tripping

[SpecialGuy69]

plus on top of all that doesn't it's synthesis require an oxygen free environment.

i read Albert hoffmans book when i was in high school "LSD my problem child"

then my mother threw it away haha.

when he tripped out accidentally he was flipping out on the fact that something that he brought

into this world all by himself is going to be the very thing that would take him out of it. imagine thinking that when youre tripping
yep. inert atmosphere, light filters, vacuum, high/low temps.

Not really DIY OTC.

[sweetpain]

Hey Pandora. You sound alittle paranoid doing the acid. Try and keep an open mind to a wonderful experience b4 you take it. Otherwise, if you are paranoid or scared to do it but do it anyway, you may have a bad experience.

Everyone on here offered excellent advise. The main thing is to have someone who's not tripping around in case you do kinda start flipping out or something, that way, they can talk you out of it and help you "enjoy the show."

Also, don't plan on driving anwhere when doing them. I did it bcz I took the acid and felt ok so I got talked into driving somewhere (can't remember why they made me drive knowing I had taken acid). Anyway, it was awesome. I was driving about 15 mph down the highway and it was raining and all the raindrops that hit the windshield were balls of fire that exploded when they hit the windshield. That's been many years ago.

Also, don't plan on doing anything important the next day cuz you may experience flashbacks which are like little, short, mini-trips that happen out of nowhere. It happened to me. I was driving my boyfriend's car and he was tripping but I wasn't but I had the night b4. I was fooling with the radio and out of nowhere, had a flashback and winded up wrecking his car, hit a fence and plowed through a cornfield (thank god I wasn't on a highway or the results could have been devastating).

But, all in all, I tripped on acid at "woodstock" and did shroons few times, although didn't like the high from them as much as acid.

Good luck and lay back and enjoy the evening. It will be fun, I'm sure.

[SpecialGuy69]

But, all in all, I tripped on acid at "woodstock" and did shroons few times, although didn't like the high from them as much as acid.


Woodstock in the 60's or Woodstock II?

About the flashbacks- was it like you were tripping, or just an afterglow from a really hard trip? I always thought flashbacks were bullshit, interesting to hear from someone who's actually experienced them. Can you describe what its like? I still see swirlies in the dark sometimes, but I really dont think its from the LSD- according to everything I've ever read, its totally eliminated from your system within a few days.

[WarmCyanide]

Woodstock in the 60's or Woodstock II?

About the flashbacks- was it like you were tripping, or just an afterglow from a really hard trip? I always thought flashbacks were bullshit, interesting to hear from someone who's actually experienced them. Can you describe what its like? I still see swirlies in the dark sometimes, but I really dont think its from the LSD- according to everything I've ever read, its totally eliminated from your system within a few days.


i dosed at least twice weekly the last two years of high school and never had a flashback. i see swirly darting things when looking up at the sky on a clear day but its probably from something else.

[SpecialGuy69]

i dosed at least twice weekly the last two years of high school and never had a flashback. i see swirly darting things when looking up at the sky on a clear day but its probably from something else.
yep i know exactly what your talking about. Those and the dark swirlies- I think everyone has em but you only see it for what it is once you have seen them really pronounced on LSD- its the same as acid visuals, but just much less intense. I'm pretty sure they are there all along, and LSD just brings them out, allows your brain to focus on what it normally ignores. Make sense?

[Hiram]

i dosed at least twice weekly the last two years of high school and never had a flashback. i see swirly darting things when looking up at the sky on a clear day but its probably from something else.

I'm pretty sure flashbacks are a result of a traumatic event and certain scenes or events my bring back those intense feelings or experiences. Kind of like what some veterans experience. So basically maybe a extremely bad trip could be that traumatic experience. A bad batch is probably something totally different, but I think that is more permanent brain damage, not something that comes and goes.

[WarmCyanide]

yep i know exactly what your talking about. Those and the dark swirlies- I think everyone has em but you only see it for what it is once you have seen them really pronounced on LSD- its the same as acid visuals, but just much less intense. I'm pretty sure they are there all along, and LSD just brings them out, allows your brain to focus on what it normally ignores. Make sense?
makes sense to me

I'm pretty sure flashbacks are a result of a traumatic event and certain scenes or events my bring back those intense feelings or experiences. Kind of like what some veterans experience. So basically maybe a extremely bad trip could be that traumatic experience. A bad batch is probably something totally different, but I think that is more permanent brain damage, not something that comes and goes.

^^^ this, too

[Hookahed]

AO, thanks for correcting me. I was going on what I've been told by people that think otherwise. That and the fact that really good LSD has always been so cheap and abundant around here (eastern-midwest). Since a little dab will do you I've always imagined that just a few very skilled chemists could supply the current demand for LSD in the US. I could be all wrong though and would like to hear from those that know nore about the subject.

I used to find LSD fascinating and extremely fun. I guess at this point I should say that I saw the Grateful Dead live about 130 times between 1982 and 1995. A huge group of people tripping together on the same acid made for some wonderful experiences. Senses of oneness and spirituality were common.

[SpecialGuy69]

^ look up a guy named William Pickard. He was making almost all the lsd in the US, got busted and butt-fucked by the DEA.

One kilo of LSD is millions of doses. So you dont need a lot of chemists- but what a fuckin moneymaker!

Although I'd NEVER find a buyer for 100,000 sheets of LSD!

[Hiram]

Although I'd NEVER find a buyer for 100,000 sheets of LSD!

Hippie mafia.

[SpecialGuy69]

Hippie mafia.
remember the nitrous mafia?

[Hiram]

remember the nitrous mafia?

Yeah....brings back fond memories of tripping balls at the campgrounds, listening to the hiss of the tanks all night and trying not to let one of your balloons pop or get away from you. Good times.

[Hiram]

AO, thanks for correcting me. I was going on what I've been told by people that think otherwise. That and the fact that really good LSD has always been so cheap and abundant around here (eastern-midwest). Since a little dab will do you I've always imagined that just a few very skilled chemists could supply the current demand for LSD in the US. I could be all wrong though and would like to hear from those that know nore about the subject.

I used to find LSD fascinating and extremely fun. I guess at this point I should say that I saw the Grateful Dead live about 130 times between 1982 and 1995. A huge group of people tripping together on the same acid made for some wonderful experiences. Senses of oneness and spirituality were common.

Sweney is a fucking god. Good times and good L at hookahville too. I used to live in Athens.

[I-Nod]

Sweney is a fucking god.

'Tis true, but would that then make Cliffs yodeling the "choir of angels"? :D



Thought I saw a Schwa in here!! Welcome to the site, Hookahed! Good to see ya, Hiram :) :)

[Hookahed]

SFS is an Alien God. Hey hookies!! We are everywhere. Methabenzo is one of us too.

[starglazer33]

Hey Pandora. You sound alittle paranoid doing the acid. Try and keep an open mind to a wonderful experience b4 you take it. Otherwise, if you are paranoid or scared to do it but do it anyway, you may have a bad experience.

Everyone on here offered excellent advise. The main thing is to have someone who's not tripping around in case you do kinda start flipping out or something, that way, they can talk you out of it and help you "enjoy the show."

Also, don't plan on driving anwhere when doing them. I did it bcz I took the acid and felt ok so I got talked into driving somewhere (can't remember why they made me drive knowing I had taken acid). Anyway, it was awesome. I was driving about 15 mph down the highway and it was raining and all the raindrops that hit the windshield were balls of fire that exploded when they hit the windshield. That's been many years ago.

Also, don't plan on doing anything important the next day cuz you may experience flashbacks which are like little, short, mini-trips that happen out of nowhere. It happened to me. I was driving my boyfriend's car and he was tripping but I wasn't but I had the night b4. I was fooling with the radio and out of nowhere, had a flashback and winded up wrecking his car, hit a fence and plowed through a cornfield (thank god I wasn't on a highway or the results could have been devastating).

But, all in all, I tripped on acid at "woodstock" and did shroons few times, although didn't like the high from them as much as acid.

Good luck and lay back and enjoy the evening. It will be fun, I'm sure.

so true the drivine thing just reminded me of a time when my friends and i were all tripping and it became pivotal and we had to drive and when we did i rremember how lucky we were there was no one around we were all crammed in one car and stuck at a stop light all laughing and talking and i looked over to my friend brian and said man your doing great giving him positive feed cuz i was seeing the musick fly out the windows in waves. then we all got quiet and realized we were sitting at the green light we started laughing wehn it turned red then it happend again it made us bust out laughing then a car came up behind us and we all had to concentrate til the light turned and we all laughed and screamed when we finally did it and drove home. a blast no one hurt and everything turned out a o k.!

have fun b safe.............sg33

[Hiram]

Tripping and driving around seems like a great idea if you start to get bored, but I recommend avoiding it. I've flown many a space shuttle back from concerts and never had any problems. Two times I was with somebody that couldn't handle their shit when we decided to go for a ride and we're lucky we didn't go to jail, cuz there ain't no maintaining and playing off an acid trip in front of a cop.

One of those times I brought some acid back from OH to my small ass little town and got a few old high school friends together to take a journey. The kid that hosted the event decided that we all needed to go for a ride and he would drive us into town which was 10 miles away, or what seemed like 1000. We made it into town okay and drove around without getting arrested somehow.

On the way back we are on some state 2 lane HWY in BFE, 3 of us crammed into an S-10 with bench seats, and dude just stops the truck out of no where about half way home right in the middle of the highway, looks over at us and we're like "dude, what are you doing?" "We need to keep moving." He looks at us with a deer stuck in the headlights/nobody home type stare and says, "I'm trippin!" "Uh yeah, we just took some acid, we are too, let's keep movin man!!!" He pukes all over his lap and looks back up and says "I'm trippin." Some how he pulls himself together enough to drive 15mph on the HWY, pukes a few more times in his lap and finally we make it to his house, hop out and kiss the ground. Freakin balls to the wall Grateful Dead blotter, stamped with the gangster character from the Shakedown Street album. Perfect scenario for running into some redneck County Sheriff and going straight to jail.

It was scary. The kid never could handle his shit on acid for some reason. It still didn't make the rest of us panic or go into a bad trip, but it was definitely an intense night. That was the last time I tripped with him. There's always that one crazy nekkid dude at every concert that can't handle it, which is where I took note on the medics using Thorazine in such situations.

[Hookahed]

I've tripped a lot of times ~300. Never puked on LSD, shrooms yes, LSD no. That had to have been a strange trip home.

[Hiram]

I've tripped a lot of times ~300. Never puked on LSD, shrooms yes, LSD no. That had to have been a strange trip home.

I've never puked on acid either. I've had that stomach rot feeling from not eating prior to dropping, but never puked. This kid flipped out and puked every time though. A year later I heard about him losing it, somehow ended up naked in somebody's yard and of course the cops came which he tried to fight off. No thank you, give me some mellow kids to hang out with. That first time was enough for me. I never shared with him again.

[Soda]

Where did Pandora go with her box?

[Nate]

Funny Story, childish and dangerous....but funny.

So me and my buddy munch up some aparently "potent" mushrooms (bah that what they all say), half quad each. I convince him we have time to run to mcy ds to get some snacks. Get there (+10 min), get out of the drive through (+30).

As we are on the way home I can feel it starting, yep pupils are getting bigger, we are both excited. Anyways so we pull up to a stop light, it turns green, but my buddy isn't going.

"Go man it's green."

He then looks over at me with the most confused look on his face.

"dude I aint going on a purple light, what the fuck does a purple light mean?"

We made it home safely, but that line had me laughing so hard, to this day. I know mushrooms aren't acid, but I enjoy it.

Whats the word pandora you get to trip yet??

Sorry for my lack of posting folks, shitty times here :(

[starglazer33]

Yeah man, whats the word?

If i caught you in time SAVE SAVE SAVE!!!, YOUR OPIATES or whatever else for afterwards. the other drugs will not really help and will be trumped by the acid if its worth it. Then, after, you'll be really needing them benzo's or opies to help you sleep and come back to planet yuck.

Anyway whatever, please let us know how your doing. hope everything is good.

whole lotta luv and please bring back ye old avatar:)......sg33

[Soda]

Funny Story, childish and dangerous....but funny.

So me and my buddy munch up some aparently "potent" mushrooms (bah that what they all say), half quad each. I convince him we have time to run to mcy ds to get some snacks. Get there (+10 min), get out of the drive through (+30).

As we are on the way home I can feel it starting, yep pupils are getting bigger, we are both excited. Anyways so we pull up to a stop light, it turns green, but my buddy isn't going.

"Go man it's green."

He then looks over at me with the most confused look on his face.

"dude I aint going on a purple light, what the fuck does a purple light mean?"

We made it home safely, but that line had me laughing so hard, to this day. I know mushrooms aren't acid, but I enjoy it.

Whats the word pandora you get to trip yet??

Sorry for my lack of posting folks, shitty times here :(


That is wonderful. I'll get back to you when I figurr out what tah do on a purple light.

[oxy kid]

gotta love tripping.

wow.

I love that body feeling.

[Narkotikon]

^^^^^^^ If you had waited five more days, you could have made the ONE YEAR anniversary post!

[ouaisOut]

The purple light! Shit! I think I saw that one once for about 30 minutes at a traffic light.

I def concur with the suggestion to set aside some downers for the end of your trip. When I used to trip regularly (like 15-20 years ago. Oy.), I didn't even know about the power of barbs, benzos, opiates for the end of the trip. If I had, I would have chalked up a lot more completely successful and satisfying trips.

After a night of mind-ripping expansion it's nice to just be able to go to sleep and wake up with wonderful memories of your trip. As opposed to staying up til 2pm next day wishing you could sleep and suffering from sleep deprivation and the natural feeling of being drained after 12 hours of running around blowing your mind out (in a good way). Sleep is good. Especially if you've been running around Golden Gate Park for 12 hours in the rain and wind, trying to determine your location and failing miserably. How can a group of people get lost in a relatively small and completely familiar park for 12 hours? ;)

[firefeind]

unplug all the clocks, cover all the mirrors, avoid suburbia like the plague.

[Hydro-Joe]

I would say that unless you have done your research (and I'm NOT speaking of chemical research here), don't try acid AT all. I have a brother who took acid a few years back (and Lord only knows what he REALLY took), and he claims he still has problems because of acid years later.

I don't know if it's REALLY possible for him to be having trouble years later, but I wouldn't doubt it. He has since graduated from marijuana/acid/mushrooms to OxyContin.

Whatever you decide to do, just be careful experimenting with something you are not at all familiar with.

Hydro-Joe

[Soda]

Soda here, bubbly and carbinated, but slightly concerned for those looking to try acid. My advice as a regular guy, no degree in chemistry, psychology, or the 60s - is to not try acid at all. If, however, you are

very curious about the effects
doing it to achieve positive outlooks on the mundane
aware that acid will, for a set period of time, change your behavior more dramatically than you can imagine
then, and only then, would I approve of such an experiment on oneself. There is a debate regarding long term effects of acid use, whether excessive or a single dose, and whether or not there are long term effects - the fact that such a debate exists should serve as stern warning to those about to embark on an acid trip. Sit down, have some me-time, and really examine your reasons for trying LSD. It's not a decision that should be made lightly or for superficial reasons. With that said, I wish you the best.

[digby]

I can't really top the purple light thing, but in April of 1970, we had taken some acid and I was driving down with a friend to see Janis Joplin in a reunion concert with Big Brother in San Francisco and we came to an intersection where 5 streets all came together. The light was red, so we stopped. Then I noticed that all the other lights at the intersection were red too - no one could go on any of the 5 streets without running a red light. I think there were some other cars waiting too...and things were taking so long, we starting talking about stuff in general. Now I know acid will distort your time reference, but this was getting ridiculous. We must have been talking for about 20 minutes, and the lights were still red. All of them.

So we waited...and waited. Finally, had to give in or miss the concert. So we slowly drove through and on down the street. Looking back, you could see all 5 lights still red. They may be red still, for all I know.

Anyway, we made the concert, it was great and we were standing right in front of the stage throughout watching Janis drink more Southern Comfort than I would have thought humanly possible. After the concert, we were standing in a corner off of the concession area, and Janis walked up to us and flipped a battery powered psychedelic jo-jo towards the ground. The three of us just watched it as it sat there at the bottom of the string, spinning but not doing much else. She just looked down at it, then up at me and my friend and said, "Damn, that always happens to me!" The jo-jo at the end of its string turned out to be more prophetic than not, as Janis was dead 6 months later.

Just one of those acid moments that stay with you. Best of luck in creating some of your own.

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

I've done acid quite a few times and shrooms kick the ever living shit outta acid. I will never do acid again, too chemically. The stric 9(don't know how to spell it) makes your bones and spine ache and you feel like an electric current walking around the next day. I've heard acid makes your brain bleed and thats why you trip(don't know the truth in that, just what I was told). Fuck acid, stick with shrooms.

[Seedy]

Sounds like you've been taking some poor quality acid, or it's been on the paper too long. Freshness makes a huge difference! As soon as the acid's on the paper (or whatever else it's put on) it starts to degrage, the chemical structure changes, which causes the quality/properties of the experience to change. And the whole strychnine thing is just an urban legend, probably the result of what I've mentioned. Clean fresh acid is pretty easy on the body and produces a fairly clear headed trip.

[digby]

Quality makes a huge difference. I had clear Owsley acid - just clear liquid on a sugar cube - and the trip was devoid of all those chemical psychic abrasions you were referring to. Best acid makes for a better experience.

[Soda]

Alright, I understand having those acid moments and those body sensations and those fond, fond, fond memories while under the influence of the Timothy Leary Brain Vitamin. I do. A friend once said, and this was an older friend, married, happy, with a bunch of kids - but she said that if you do enough acid nothing seems real anymore. At the same time, there was nothing observably wrong with her mind. I'd like to say I'm "just passing along something she said" without any personal bias.

The only bias I might have is that drugs represent a time in my life when things were more out of control than they are now that I no longer use them. But maybe you want to expect the unexpected and ride chemical rollercoasters and sort of thrill seek or satisfy your curisoty. I won't tell you how to conduct your life. I won't even recomend eating a balanced diet and excercising regularly. I don't take a lot of pleasure repeating what people have already heard.

All I will say is this: drugs aren't always a "life choice" - but they frequently are a detour.

You can take that detour and go sightseeing for however long you want, and end up safe and sound at your destination with a lot of fond memories under your belt.

No one (at least not this writer) will say your life is any less valuable for it.

Now that I've started drawing a metaphor I can't help but tie it into something on this thread that disturbed me, a life detour I wouldn't want to take...dying young.

Taking acid is definately a road trip, but driving a car on acid is taking exit on that psychadelic superhighway. And where does that exit lead? Maybe to the trippiest experience of your life - a car accident. For your own sake, don't get behind the wheel of a real car just because you want to take a mental journey. There's no need to risk your life.

[digby]

Alright, I understand having those acid moments and those body sensations and those fond, fond, fond memories while under the influence of the Timothy Leary Brain Vitamin. I do. A friend once said, and this was an older friend, married, happy, with a bunch of kids - but she said that if you do enough acid nothing seems real anymore. At the same time, there was nothing observably wrong with her mind. I'd like to say I'm "just passing along something she said" without any personal bias.

The only bias I might have is that drugs represent a time in my life when things were more out of control than they are now that I no longer use them. But maybe you want to expect the unexpected and ride chemical rollercoasters and sort of thrill seek or satisfy your curisoty. I won't tell you how to conduct your life. I won't even recomend eating a balanced diet and excercising regularly. I don't take a lot of pleasure repeating what people have already heard.

All I will say is this: drugs aren't always a "life choice" - but they frequently are a detour.

You can take that detour and go sightseeing for however long you want, and end up safe and sound at your destination with a lot of fond memories under your belt.

No one (at least not this writer) will say your life is any less valuable for it.

Now that I've started drawing a metaphor I can't help but tie it into something on this thread that disturbed me, a life detour I wouldn't want to take...dying young.

Taking acid is definately a road trip, but driving a car on acid is taking exit on that psychadelic superhighway. And where does that exit lead? Maybe to the trippiest experience of your life - a car accident. For your own sake, don't get behind the wheel of a real car just because you want to take a mental journey. There's no need to risk your life.

Just to clarify a bit, I don't recommend driving to anyone on any kind of drug that inhibits your reflexes, coordination or driving skill. Each person knows their own limits that way. That is why I can safely drive on my regular doses of opiates and still drive safely. That can happen with LSD as well, but not recommended for people that haven't taken acid scores of times and understand some of the process involved with the drug. I didn't drive often, but I used to go to work quite often under the influence with no problems. I think it often even enhanced my job performance. But you can only do this when you have taken enough LSD so you no longer hallucinate on the drug, or you only hallucinate during the first hour or so of the experience, and take that into account.

The intersection with all the lights red was actually happening - some glitch with the signal software or hardware no doubt, but everything gets more intense in a hyperstate so the effect was much more pronounced on us then on people in the other cars.

Whatever else an LSD experience is, it is not a detour. It is the furthest thing from a detour, and people that think of it as a merely a joy ride either have never taken it, or have taken too small a quantity or inferior product.

As for the comment that the girl made that if you do enough acid, nothing seems real anymore - yep, that is the obvious lesson from LSD. You learn that things you thought were real are in fact not. And for many, that is a hard adjustment to make, especially on a daily basis. LSD is not for the faint hearted. But it is a great tool for those that wish to both understand themselves and the universe better. If you want to take a drug for simply a good time, I would recommend almost any other drug in place of LSD.

[Soda]

Just to clarify a bit, I don't recommend driving to anyone on any kind of drug that inhibits your reflexes, coordination or driving skill. Each person knows their own limits that way. That is why I can safely drive on my regular doses of opiates and still drive safely. That can happen with LSD as well, but not recommended for people that haven't taken acid scores of times and understand some of the process involved with the drug. I didn't drive often, but I used to go to work quite often under the influence with no problems. I think it often even enhanced my job performance. But you can only do this when you have taken enough LSD so you no longer hallucinate on the drug, or you only hallucinate during the first hour or so of the experience, and take that into account.

The intersection with all the lights red was actually happening - some glitch with the signal software or hardware no doubt, but everything gets more intense in a hyperstate so the effect was much more pronounced on us then on people in the other cars.

Whatever else an LSD experience is, it is not a detour. It is the furthest thing from a detour, and people that think of it as a merely a joy ride either have never taken it, or have taken too small a quantity or inferior product.

As for the comment that the girl made that if you do enough acid, nothing seems real anymore - yep, that is the obvious lesson from LSD. You learn that things you thought were real are in fact not. And for many, that is a hard adjustment to make, especially on a daily basis. LSD is not for the faint hearted. But it is a great tool for those that wish to both understand themselves and the universe better. If you want to take a drug for simply a good time, I would recommend almost any other drug in place of LSD.

The first and last time I used LSD, I was definately spooked of a bad trip. But what I experienced I can only describe as deeply spiritual. The hallucinations were not the imposing distortions depicted in Fear and Loathing in Los Vegas, but rather a gentle disruption in the currents of my perception. It was as though I could control these hallucinations, although I feel they are more accurately described as my imagination manifesting itself in the part of my brain that normally is reserved for reality. That is as close a description of my experience that I think words can achieve.

To draw a clearer picture, imagine your mind as a snowglobe. Most of your mind is like the water in globe, fluid, constantly adjusting to new situations, constantly thinking. A smaller portion of your mind is like the snow in the globe - percieving colors, shapes, what we call reality. The result of my ingestion of LSD was a dramatic shaking of the snowglobe. And yes, I can see why you and others feel the experience is beautiful. Afterall, a snowglobe is only worth buying if you shake it every now and then. When I took LSD, the snow eventually fell to the bottom and my mind returned to normal. Over my lifetime, though, I've seen that there are other routes (if not detours) of changing one's mind about "both understand themselves and the universe."


We clearly agree that

you shouldn't drive on acid
and, "if you want to take a drug for simply a good time", think long and hard about using LSD
On a final note, and speaking of red lights, a highschool classmate of mine failed to register either the meaning or the color of a red light due to being high on acid. Coincidentally, the classmate I speak of was and still is a jackass of the highest caliber - and if not for the fact that I was riding with him at the time - I could've cared less if his irresponsibility got him killed. But when it comes to real roads and detours, bad driving puts more than one life on the line.