Still Hanging in There

[Genon]

Hey Fam., remember me? Been a while huh? I hope everyone is doing great. Well it's been about a year now since I started this shit with the OC trip. My body/mind just will not tolerate being without some kind of drug that metabolizes into morphine. I think when we talked last I was dropping off of the 40's (for those who do not know me, I was Dr. prescribed 4 OC 80's/day; 4 OC 40's/day and 4 Roxi 30's/day) FUCK, I had surgery, not disconbobulated by a fucking train!. Anyway, massive dose for post surgical pain and now you know where I am. Trying to get the fuck off of this ship. I have "weened" down to 4 OC 80's per day, next visit (this Wed) 3 OC 80's per day.

I guess what I question, is there any real hope of being able to ween off the OCs like the good ole doc says w/o WDing or should I go ahead and ask about getting on subs. BIG questions is, do the subs work??? Fux W/D, I am a pussy when it comes to that shit. I WD once, just the beginning of WD...leg aches, can't breath right, sweating, freezing, mad, sad, crying all that shit, hit me one night and I called 911. The ER hooked me up and got me thru. Even gave me an RX for 10 mg percs. There is a story behind that, but anyway. Am I just fooling myself thinking I'm getting off of this OC myself? Is it tme for subs?

My SO is on about 25-30 OC mgs per day. Are we going to be able to ween off OC at all w/o WDing? We are both ready for the funship to go home. The depression when at then end of a script (of course I run out early, I'm a junky), just chipping until "the day", is maddening. I've started my own company while being addicted to OC. I'm barely fooling everyone...so far so good but.........you vets know the rest. Eventually the shit will hit the fan and I'll lose it all.

It's great visiting again, unfortunately this time, I need help/information about subs and weening off OC.

YO WooWoo....guess what.........that July 4th kick we talked about...well LMMFAO.......you were right on bro. Maybe this year huh?

Talk to you guys soon.

l8r,
GeN

[clinton]

nice to see that you are doing decent

[Dan Steely]

Hey man. Congrats on the new biz. Staying busy will help your detox for sure.

You can drop your dose by 1/3 every three days without any major discomfort. It wont be fun but if you are determined it is not that bad at all. Basically just a boring nuicence.

Try it and you will know for yourself.

Gluck

[Inspektahdek]

subs will def work, but make sure u taper with your full opiate agonists first, slowly, yet surely u will survive then do the bupe taper, jump and make a high dive !!!

[chopstix]

Subs are a miracle drug, best to bring your habit down as low as possible and to also keep your sub dose low. Most people can get by on 2-4mg once or twice a day; maybe load at 6-8 for the first three days and then drop from there..

G'luck.. and if you have a doc working with you on this, I'd really recommend taking it slow if you can..

[BigLou]

subs do work wonders but you must realize its switching one substance for another, but i know i'd rather be on subs then 80's/40's every day, thats just me opinion

[Genon]

subs will def work, but make sure u taper with your full opiate agonists first, slowly, yet surely u will survive then do the bupe taper, jump and make a high dive !!!


So work with my Dr and let him taper me down to ?? dose? 30 mg/day? 1 -80 per day? How far should I taper down to. My Dr dropped 1 -80 out of my diet, so I'm on 3 -80's per day and 4 -roxi 30's per day.

Could I actually taper all the way off of OXY w/o jumping to subs???? Of course that would be the best, but the mental anguish, the mental addiciton, that's a real killer also. Maybe not as bad at he physical WDs, can't be....can it???:confused:

He wants to drop my dosage every 30 days and said this will take a long time. I find the combined experience here far exceeds the knowledge of the Dr's who RX this stuff. Those Dr's should be required to become physically dependant on OXY and then have to get off the drug themselves. Then they would have a true appreciation of the effects of what they dish out.

Take Care,
Gen

[Raz]

I would try and get your dose down on your own terms.Even if it meant just breaking your tabs up into doses.And just try and reduce each day..
each day takin less is a day closer to your goal..