Kava as a Potentiator??

[Chemical_Boy]

I was suprised recently when I tried some Kava extract- it actually provided a fairly noticable buzz. I figured it would be like glorified Chamomile tea or something, but there was a definite, quantifiable altered state that went along with the Kava consumption.

I have read that Kava has a potentiation/synergy with alcohol. Has anyone tried this substance in conjuction with pain meds or dope?

What did you think?

[kil092286]

I used to take it with my methadone at night and it helped me sleep alot better and made me more relaxed. Not much for potentiation though. Give it a try everyone is different... Have you tryed tagament, cimetadine, dyphenhydramine, white grapefruit juice, or grapefruit seed extract?

[kil092286]

I meant hydroxyzine not cimetadine... I don't know why but I can't edit my posts right now.

[xecutrex]

I didnt notice any potentiation, only thing I felt was liver pains, actully it kind of took away my high

[Chemical_Boy]

I used to take it with my methadone at night and it helped me sleep alot better and made me more relaxed. Not much for potentiation though. Give it a try everyone is different... Have you tryed tagament, cimetadine, dyphenhydramine, white grapefruit juice, or grapefruit seed extract?

Yeah, I don't really get much from anything like that.

The only two things that I have found that really potentiate opiates are benzos and more opiates.

I guess maybe the tagament and grapefruit juice might make some medications last a bit longer, but I can't say I've noticed enough of a difference with those to make it worthwhile.

As far as the antihistamines potentiating, I just don't really dig it. Tried diphenhydramine, phenergen, hydroxazine, etc.... Maybe they add a little bit more of an analgesic effect, but for increasing the buzz they just don't do it for me.
Getting drowsy doesn't count as potentiation to me- it just means that I am high from the opies and drowsy from something else. The only thing that I ever found that I truly felt kicked everything up a notch was xanax... First time I threw 2mg xanax down the hatch after sniffing 150 mg extended release morphs that I used to get, I was in heaven!!

[kil092286]

Yeah, I don't really get much from anything like that.

The only two things that I have found that really potentiate opiates are benzos and more opiates.

I guess maybe the tagament and grapefruit juice might make some medications last a bit longer, but I can't say I've noticed enough of a difference with those to make it worthwhile.

As far as the antihistamines potentiating, I just don't really dig it. Tried diphenhydramine, phenergen, hydroxazine, etc.... Maybe they add a little bit more of an analgesic effect, but for increasing the buzz they just don't do it for me.
Getting drowsy doesn't count as potentiation to me- it just means that I am high from the opies and drowsy from something else. The only thing that I ever found that I truly felt kicked everything up a notch was xanax... First time I threw 2mg xanax down the hatch after sniffing 150 mg extended release morphs that I used to get, I was in heaven!!

Ya xanax and clonopin work best for potentiating opiates for me too... I used to take tagament with my methadone when I was keeping my monkey fed because having to score every single day in Michigan in the freezing cold aint fun.