Am I going to have to take it up the ass?

[Nadster]

Got your attention huh?

So, I did a CWE on a bunch of 8mg ASA/Codeine tablets. I mixed with OJ and drank away. I went to bed shortly afterwards, with a nice buzz. About 15 minutes into nodding off, I ended up waking up with my stomach hurting so bad I thought the shit was trying to burn its way OUT of my stomach. I fought the urge to vomit for the next 2 hours. It was awful.

So, do I have any options? IV is a no-no for me (for many reasons). I am a diabetic so I can definitely do SubQ, but is that an option? Or would up the butt be best? I've never tried it but *may* be willing to, if convinced, lol.

TIA! :D

[clinton]

disRegaRd pRioR post

[Princess]

8mg of codeine?

[Nadster]

Huh? :confused:

[WarmCyanide]

subcutaneous codeine? next please. now serving number 43!

[Nadster]

8mg of codeine?

They're OTC 222s. http://www.medbroadcast.com/drug_info_details.asp?brand_name_id=2

[Princess]

Why waste your time with that shit?
Score something good and we'll tell ya how to use it.
:)

[Nadster]

I get a script of 30-36 percs every 2-3 weeks. It's no longer enough. If I could get some other stuff, I wouldn't be posting this...

I guess I'll have to do some more research. Thanks anyways folks.

Signed - idiot newbie

[clinton]

i wasnt saying that youR post should be disRegaRded..
i was saying that my Response to you wasnt quite on point, i misundeRstood what you had said and
Responded to you based upon that misundeRstanding...
i then deleted my oRiginal message and instead typed disRegaRd pRioR post, i was talking about my post,not youRs...soRRy FoR the misundeRstanding

[Pandora]

Honestly, codeine pretty much sucks IMO. I'm sorry to hear you're stuck resorting to that - is there anyway you can subtly discuss upping your dose with the doctor?

I get the same effects from codeine...it usually gives me a stomach ache. Please DO NOT SC the codeine. That is just asking for an abcess...pills are not meant to be injected in the first place, but especially SC. It will bring your more problems than it's worth, trust me.

Have you considered plugging? If those pills are what you're stuck with, this could be a decent alternative. There's many threads advising how to do it - check 'em out if you're comfortable considering that ROA.

-Pandora

[Cherry's Jubilee]

i wasnt saying that youR post should be disRegaRded..
i was saying that my Response to you wasnt quite on point, i misundeRstood what you had said and
Responded to you based upon that misundeRstanding...
i then deleted my oRiginal message and instead typed disRegaRd pRioR post, i was talking about my post,not youRs...soRRy FoR the misundeRstanding

Why do you do those weird capital Rs?

[eveline]

Don't worry about people giving you a hard time...

What I thought was: codeine needs the first pass through the liver to be metabolized to active stuff (mostly morphine). That's why it's not any good (never mind how it's bad) to SC, IV, or snort it. However, if you google "codeine rectal" you'll find stuff that says codeine is given rectally. So may as well give it a try.

That said, I'd try taking it orally a few more times before you decide you can't deal with it. Have some food in your stomach and take an antihistamine for the nausea... Oh! Is it possible your stomach was irritated because of whatever aspirin was remaining after the CWE? If you're not taking too many too often, or just for comparison's sake, you could try ones with APAP instead.

Why do you do those weird capital Rs?

I was also wondering that. Maybe his keyboard's broken.

[clinton]

because wide open thinks they are cool..... Kidding , my mac has a keyboard malfunction, the rs and fs dont work, I have to copy and paste them into the text, usually the letters I copy are capitalized... If in using my ipod touch ( like now) then youll notice that my posts are all lower case

[WarmCyanide]

because wide open thinks they are cool..... Kidding , my mac has a keyboard malfunction, the rs and fs dont work, I have to copy and paste them into the text, usually the letters I copy are capitalized... If in using my ipod touch ( like now) then youll notice that my posts are all lower case


reminds me of "misery" when the N key didnt strike

[underide]

Whatever you do just don't IV the damn codeine.

Apart from feeling like you're dying, you might actually well - die. Codeine is not meant for IV.
SC will work just make sure you filter it out well to avoid abscesses.
If oral codeine can still make you nod out you're probably better off staying away from needles altogether - it is good and at the same time quite washed-up piece of advise around here.

Never heard of anyone plugging codeine, but i'm sure it will work good and probably a lot more efficiently.
I'd say go for it! Get it ON

[Young Professor]

In general, codeine has all sorts of side effects. Hence, the reason most Docs today script some form of Hydrocodone....Much less side effects.

[underide]

What I thought was: codeine needs the first pass through the liver to be metabolized to active stuff (mostly morphine). That's why it's not any good (never mind how it's bad) to SC, IV, or snort it. However, if you google "codeine rectal" you'll find stuff that says codeine is given rectally. So may as well give it a try.


SC is a very efficient way to administer codeine and it is still being done in medical practice.
Ofcourse they use codeine prepared especially for SC injections, so you really have to take your time and filter the solution quite well but that goes without saying.
Your butt cheeks will work best for SC codeine from what i have heard, and it is also relatively rare on abscesses (using your butt cheeks that is).

Obviously though, plugging is probably the healthiest option here

[eveline]

SC is a very efficient way to administer codeine and it is still being done in medical practice.
Ofcourse they use codeine prepared especially for SC injections, so you really have to take your time and filter the solution quite well but that goes without saying.
Your butt cheeks will work best for SC codeine from what i have heard, and it is also relatively rare on abscesses (using your butt cheeks that is).

Obviously though, plugging is probably the healthiest option here

Sorry, yeah, you're right. It looks like it's given both SC and IM, but not IV. I still don't get how it's effective without the first-pass effect though.

[Nadster]

I think I'll try it SQ. I was really careful with the CWE so I'm hoping it's filtered enough. Are the biggest risks abcesses? That would form under your skin right?

I would really like to stay away from the rectal method if I can. Besides, I have plenty of good supplies since I'm diabetic and have gone through IVF a number of times...

[WarmCyanide]

im not too sure if CWE will take all of the binders out of the pill to ready it for sc use. as far as i know CWE just separates the APAP. theres a gal here nameuh roxi stardust. she's pretty good on dat shit. ask her.

[upstate_007]

When you CWE those over the counter codeine pills it does not get rid of all the caffeine in them. Depending on how many of them you did at once, you could have had a boat load of caffeine in your stomach which can feel not so good.

[Thebane]

Maybe you should try eating a few, to make sure your stomach problems were related to it? Before you risk life and limb playing around shooting pills that aren't going to be much fun anyway.

I'd really look into kratom if I were you, if you can get a buzz of codeine it should work well and I think the high is much, much funner. I like it more than pods, and they're a lot stronger than codeine, of course kratom requires a low tolerance to get much from it but it looks like you have that. I'd definitely research it a little if I were you though, I think you'll like it much more than codeine (and it's legal to order on-line). (Unless you're in Australia or SE Asia or somewhere near there at least.)

[LorTabitha]

I have always had the same problem as the OP with codeine, but ONLY when taken before I go to sleep. I wake up wishing I was dead. My stomach is on fire and it hurts for hours. However, if I take codeine during the day, I get slight nausea which can be helped with any number of meds. I only take codeine when all other options are exhausted, but it does keep the w/d at bay.

[Hookahed]

This is a rather embarassing question for me to ask but is one were to want to "plug" a coldwater extraction of a codiene & H2O what would be the best method. Mind you I've never plugged anything in the past other than maybe one or two Compazine suppositories. Do you use a syring apparatus without a needle and plunge the liquid? Seems like there would be leakage unless there are rings around Uranus. Sorry if I grossed anyone out here, just wanna get the most umm, bang from my codiene and have read two reports that rectal administrations is more effective than oral.

Where would one find such a device without asking the small town pharmacist that knows me and everyone else in town if that is the "route" to go?

[Methabenzo]

Paul D is the coolest!!!:hangloose

[SpecialGuy69]

This is a rather embarassing question for me to ask but is one were to want to "plug" a coldwater extraction of a codiene & H2O what would be the best method. Mind you I've never plugged anything in the past other than maybe one or two Compazine suppositories. Do you use a syring apparatus without a needle and plunge the liquid? Seems like there would be leakage unless there are rings around Uranus. Sorry if I grossed anyone out here, just wanna get the most umm, bang from my codiene and have read two reports that rectal administrations is more effective than oral.

Where would one find such a device without asking the small town pharmacist that knows me and everyone else in town if that is the "route" to go?wal mart sells oral dosing syringes in the pharmacy section. Nobody will know what you're using it for- they are usually for dosing baby or pet medication. If your town has a large pet store, check there, too.

Just tell the pharmacist you give your dog his meds with a oral syringe, because its easier than force-feeding him pills.

bury it to the hilt and no, there is no leakage.


How to get MOST of the caffeine out of your codeine: I have read that because caffiene is less water soluble than codiene, you can get most of it out by using the minimum amount of water. Lets assume you are preparing 1 gram of codeine (when you add up all the mg's from all the pills 1000mg). You are probably gonna have 3 grams of caffeine along with it (ouch!).

Ideally, first you would do an ordinary CWE and then evaporate the water off, scrape up the powder that remains and begin there, but you don't have to.
1 gram of codeine needs a minimum of 2.3mL of water to dissolve.

Assume you use 10mL just to be absolutely sure you get it all, and dont gum up your filter.

Only 220mg of caffeine can dissolve in 10mL of water at 25 degrees C, so most of the caffeine won't dissolve. Cooling the water will get even more out. If you chill your water to 10C, you'll have no more than 150mg of caffeine.

So now you have 10mL solution that can be divided into three doses, each containing about:
300mg codeine and 50mg of caffeine- the amount in a weak cup of coffee.

If you did it right and made a first-pass CWE, dried it, and then did the low-water method, you can get away with 5mL of water and eliminate virtually ALL of the caffeine.

[kyuss]

We all do
eventually.

[Hookahed]

Luckily there is no caffiene in these. Just 30mg codiene and 500mg APAP. Thanks for the info AO.

[Papa Verine]

When you CWE those over the counter codeine pills it does not get rid of all the caffeine in them. Depending on how many of them you did at once, you could have had a boat load of caffeine in your stomach which can feel not so good.

This is exactly what I was going to say. Those 222's have a good amount of caffeine in them. Ask one of the chemists here if there is a way to do a second extraction on them to seperate the caffeine from the codeine. I know it's not as simple as cold water but it also shouldn't be that difficult either.

I know for me, I can drink coffee all day without any stomach upset but for some reason caffeine in pills bothers my stomach.

[Hookahed]

Well if all goes well I'llget my Tylenol #3's today and do my 1st CWE and plug. I have one question. I fully understand the CWE method and have everything I need (except the pills). One post said "you could also evaporate the water and have a pure powder of whatever opiate you used but that risks destroying the opiate in it". Is that true? Also, does the liquid extraction have a short shelf life and at what temp should it be stored?

So, (the sarcasm starts) I'm assuming this is gateway type behaviour. Three weeks ago I was just the average Joe that would score 10-15 7.5 or 10mg Vics or Percs a couple of times a month and eat thee or four a day until they were gone. Now I'm planning my whole day around plunging an opiate solution up my bung hole (and don't tell me to get something better than codiene because I can't and I'm one of those lucky enough to really get a good opi buzz off codiene). I'm starting to see a progression here and I have read a lot here in the past three weeks. Just trying to figure out what lies ahead. Let's see, after I run through all this codiene I'll be sick and start hanging round the 'done clinic looking for "take homes" or H, right? And H comes in brindles of bags right? How many bags to a brindle? I just start off snorting that saying I'll never shoot it for awhile and then some chick talks me into shooting it right? I'm thinking after that nothing else will work so I'll spend my savings, run up about $100,000 in bad debt on my credit cards, lose my job for being sick too many times and lose my GF for never being able to get it up.

At that point I start stealing from my friends, family, pharmacies and society in general until I die, go to jail or go to re-hab. Is that pretty much the way it works? How long does this cycle usually take?

The above is just an attempt to be funny and I in no way mean to offend or judge anyone who's life even slightly resembles the one I suggested.

[SurfRat]

^^^

It's your choice, I think a lot of it depends on what else is going on in your life, your direction goals etc.

This is a phenomenally good site for reality check re. this kind of stuff... Spend a few more hours reading what people have to say. There is tremendous collective and individual wisdom and experience on this site.
Learn from it. Listen to the people who have been in the game for a while, you might save yourself a lot of grief or a least go in with one eye half open...

I would recommend syringe filter for any pill, especially if subq, but this is not my area of expertise.

For plugging I would go with a 1cc louer lock type syringe, (remove needle please.)

[Chemical_Boy]

SC is a very efficient way to administer codeine and it is still being done in medical practice.
Ofcourse they use codeine prepared especially for SC injections, so you really have to take your time and filter the solution quite well but that goes without saying.
Your butt cheeks will work best for SC codeine from what i have heard, and it is also relatively rare on abscesses (using your butt cheeks that is).

Obviously though, plugging is probably the healthiest option here

I think I'll try it SQ. I was really careful with the CWE so I'm hoping it's filtered enough. Are the biggest risks abcesses? That would form under your skin right?

I would really like to stay away from the rectal method if I can. Besides, I have plenty of good supplies since I'm diabetic and have gone through IVF a number of times...

You could probably get away with IM a CWE solution a couple of times, but sooner or later you will probably have an issue with infection, abscesses, or something nasty. If you are planning on doing this on a regular basis, at least get some real micron filters or something!!

Otherwise plug it. I think it would be very comparable as far as efficiency goes.

This is a rather embarassing question for me to ask but is one were to want to "plug" a coldwater extraction of a codiene & H2O what would be the best method. Mind you I've never plugged anything in the past other than maybe one or two Compazine suppositories. Do you use a syring apparatus without a needle and plunge the liquid? Seems like there would be leakage unless there are rings around Uranus. Sorry if I grossed anyone out here, just wanna get the most umm, bang from my codiene and have read two reports that rectal administrations is more effective than oral.

Where would one find such a device without asking the small town pharmacist that knows me and everyone else in town if that is the "route" to go?

[eerased]

I just wanted you to know you wont loose your gf for not being able to get it up...You will be able to get it up you just wont be able to get off!