Felony possession of a controlled substance

[mart1n]

Hello All,

On Wednesday night while walking from work to the open air market in the Tenderloin (I live in San Francisco), I ran into one of my usual dealers a mile away from "The Block". We talked a little and did a transaction near a BART station on Market street. While walking up the stairs from the BART station, two cops were at the top of the stairs and signalled me over. They said that when someone makes a brief encounter with someone like I did, that it looks like a drug deal. I advised that she was my friend named Keesha and we were just chatting before she boarded a BART train. He said her name wasn't Keesha and that he knew her (bullshit, her name is Keesha), I advised that it WAS actually Keesha and she was a friend. The cop advised that I wasn't being arrested but there was some probable cause and asked if he could search me. For some DUMBASS reason, I said he could and he found 5 OC 80s on me. He then read me my rights and hauled me off to the station where I was booked and spent the night in jail before my wife got me out on bail.

I've had one encounter with SFPD before, I was caught red handed smoking an OC 80 off of some foil in my car before work and this cop just told me I was a dip-shit and let me go, so I wasn't really expecting to be arrested. That is why I THINK I acted like I did and let them search me. I was trying to be cooperative. I was under the impression that little drug offenses were the last of their concern, I was wrong.

So...I'm writing to get the opinion of some of you great folks that might have more knowledge or experience with this type of thing. I have a perfectly spotless record, clean as a whistle. I'm a 25 year old white male that works as a software developer. What type of sentence am I going to be expecting? I was charged with a felony possession of a controlled substance. Will a public defender do me well or would I be stupid to not get a lawyer? I make decent money, but living in this city while supporting the drug habits of both my wife and myself doesn't leave a lot of extra cash floating around. What are the chances It might get dropped? Rehab? Am I looking at jail time? Loosing my job? Any information would be very helpful. Thanks for anyone who took the time to read this LONG post! This is my second post and I wish it wasn't on this topic. Thanks again!

mart1n

[reddragon3668]

I would definitely get an attorney. This is a felony we're talking about, so you don't want that on your record. Being a professional and all, it just wouldn't look good. More than likely, since it was your first offense, a good attorney will be able to plead it down to a lesser charge. Anything less than a felony is good.

Welcome to the board. Good luck!

[betmylife]

never been in trouble? unless the judge is a fuck, and you dont say anything dumb.....you will get community service, and prolly have to go to some drug class where they piss test you for 3 months or something, you didnt have intent to sell or anything......anyways, dont worry to much, you arnt going to Folsom.

[SpecialGuy69]

^ what he said. And let this be a lesson to everyone -
NEVER CONSENT TO SEARCH. EVER!

[EleusisII]

Yeah, you probably won't face jailtime

ESPECIALLY if you hire a good lawyer, who can make a good deal with the prosecuter and the judge.

And I guess this can be a warning to everybody else. Cop's can be damn good, at manipulating people into digging their own grave. Never give them permission for anything. Always get a lawyer present.

[betmylife]

Yeah, you probably won't face jailtime

ESPECIALLY if you hire a good lawyer, who can make a good deal with the prosecuter and the judge.

And I guess this can be a warning to everybody else. Cop's can be damn good, at manipulating people into digging their own grave. Never give them permission for anything. Always get a lawyer present.


the dudes in Cali, with a good lawyer, he can prolly get his 80s back.

[mart1n]

Nope, never been in trouble before, it was my first offense. It was only that one charge, no intent to sell or anything like that. From everyone's response, it looks like a public defender is out of the question, I was trying to save money. I really do feel stupid for agreeing to a search. The worst part is how afraid of buying on the streets I am now. Within the first hour of being out, I was in the Tenderloin copping shit because I was already getting sick. Scary though, this would be the worst time to get caught, AGAIN.

[corlene]

My brother got busted on campus at UCLA for Possession of a control substance, first time offender. He hired a lawyer for ~2500 I think it was. He got off with adjudication withheld and upon completion of a substance abuse(out patient once a week type of deal) the charge was expunged. He was on a year of probation while having to complete the class, upon completion of the class probation was terminated and the charge was expunged. He seemed to think that he didnt need to spend the money on a lawyer. Atleast get some legal advice from a lawyer before you take any chances with public pretenders.

[upstate_007]

I am in NY but I could probably take a good guess at what will happen

Get a lawyer. Charge will probably be plead down to a misdemeanor of some sort. Sentence will be something like probation or community service or fines or some combo of that. With a clean record you definitely aint going to jail over this one.

In NY they always charge you with the highest level charge they can. More often than not it gets reduced along the way to something more reasonable. I got charged with 4 felonies and 3 misdemeanors all in one night once and in the end I plead guilty to one misdemeanor charge. I got real lucky in some ways, but in my experience I have never been convicted of what they originally charged me with.

[SurfRat]

Just curious.

Were you in the BART station?

[Raz]

Find a friend who knows a good criminal lawyer.Prefrably a friend with personal experience.That way you know the guy can work the system...
Did you make any written statement admittin you bought the ocs...I would come out with a story ,to deny the pills werent mine..But i have a little more xperience wiv the system....But a good tried and tested lawyer is the way to go...I think you'll be ok..Make sure you can protect your career, you dont want anything on your record thay can affect that....And make sure you focus and ask all the right ??
And you go into any negociations wiv your wits about you.You basicall need to get as much knowledge about the system and cases similar to yours....
If you work it right, you'll come out of this smellin of roses, not shit...Dont chicken curry...Be cool.Raz

[Cherry's Jubilee]

When I was 21, I broke up with my boyfriend and he wouldn't give my coffee table back, so I broke into his car and stole all his CDs and his radar detector...and apparently there were cameras in the parking lot. They came to my DORM and arrested me and charged me with felony B&E auto and I had to spend the night in a cell with a crackhead prostitute named Sunny in nothing but a Beastie Boys t-shirt and flip flops.

Anyway, I had a clean record prior to that (just because my juvenile records were sealed) and all I got was probation and some community service. There is no way you have to worry about jailtime or losing your job.

[Chicago]

Every state has different laws, but this is a felony like you mentioned, CORRECT.
IF YOU DO HAVE A CLEAN RECORD & NEVER BEEN POPPED BEFORE, JUST GET A REAL ATTORNEY, YOU WILL NOT QUALIFY FOR A P.D. W/THE JOB & MONEY YOU MAKE, PLUS YOU POSTED BOND, SO THAT BOND MONEY WILL GO TO YOUR ATTORNEY & THEN SOME MAYBE?

The worst case, you can get what they call a 1410 probation, which is a minimum of 2yrs but in that 2yrs do not get popped again, then when 2yrs is up, this 1410 probation will be off your record, unlike other probations that will stay till exponged.

Must get a personal attorney for this, will probally get the min charge of drug school w/1yr supervision. Talk to your attorney about getting no drops, this is possiable b/c my lady got a possesion, that came to be a probation 2yrs but NO drops. WORKED OUT.

CK YOUR STATE ON WHAT FELLONEY POSSESION IS & WHAT IT CAN CARRY ASWELL ALLWAYS SAY THIS WAS PERSONAL FOR USE.
IN CHICAGO ANY FELLONEY POSSESION CARRIES 1-3YRS. BUT NEVER COMES TO THAT.
I NO MANY PEOPLE IN THE SAME BOAT AS YOU YOU HAVE WALKED W/DRUG SCHOOL.
LIKE I SAID 1410 PROBATION IS WORST CASE.
WITH YOUR RECORD BEING CLEAN YOU ARE STR8.

Chicago

[Raz]

Every state has different laws, but this is a felony like you mentioned, CORRECT.
IF YOU DO HAVE A CLEAN RECORD & NEVER BEEN POPPED BEFORE, JUST GET A REAL ATTORNEY, YOU WILL NOT QUALIFY FOR A P.D. W/THE JOB & MONEY YOU MAKE, PLUS YOU POSTED BOND, SO THAT BOND MONEY WILL GO TO YOUR ATTORNEY & THEN SOME MAYBE?

The worst case, you can get what they call a 1410 probation, which is a minimum of 2yrs but in that 2yrs do not get popped again, then when 2yrs is up, this 1410 probation will be off your record, unlike other probations that will stay till exponged.

Must get a personal attorney for this, will probally get the min charge of drug school w/1yr supervision. Talk to your attorney about getting no drops, this is possiable b/c my lady got a possesion, that came to be a probation 2yrs but NO drops. WORKED OUT.

CK YOUR STATE ON WHAT FELLONEY POSSESION IS & WHAT IT CAN CARRY ASWELL ALLWAYS SAY THIS WAS PERSONAL FOR USE.
IN CHICAGO ANY FELLONEY POSSESION CARRIES 1-3YRS. BUT NEVER COMES TO THAT.
I NO MANY PEOPLE IN THE SAME BOAT AS YOU YOU HAVE WALKED W/DRUG SCHOOL.
LIKE I SAID 1410 PROBATION IS WORST CASE.
WITH YOUR RECORD BEING CLEAN YOU ARE STR8.

Chicago GOOD ADVICE> i think chi is the man to talk to re your problem!!!

[SeVeN]

Yes u were a dumbass for messing with the cop. I got pinched with a felony possesion record myself. It was put under first offenders. Since I was popped while i was on probation i was not supposed to have my record sealed, but luckily the sysyour state tem sucks and my record was still sealed. I bet ur state has a first offender status as well. Just dont fuck it up or CAIC might catch it.

Good luck bro. Be smarter than i was.

[jimmyfingers]

get you a good lawyer ASAP
be 100% honest with him
he will advise you to go to treatment(impatient) and then therapy after that
maybe even volunteer for a little bit and get proof of it
since it is your first charge it wont be as harsh as being a habitual offender

with a good lawyer and everything else you should be able to get straight probation and if you comeplete the probabtion ur record gets wiped clean

[jimmyfingers]

how much was ur bail

[SpecialGuy69]

wow a felony for possession of 5 OC's? What the fuck! I would have thought Cali would be more lenient on drug possession than this.

One thing about pills thats nice is if they arent too huge in your area yet, you can sometimes talk your way out of an arrest (old prescription, etc).

[kil092286]

http://stopthedrugwar.org/videos/busted

Never consent to a search, there's nothing wrong with telling them they can't, also if they were to bring some dogs which rarely happens dogs can't smell pills.

[RobOC]

I am not 100% sure but I think the first offender program in CA is prop 36. in which you have to go to meetings, have your court card signed, and submit to random drug testing but as long as you complete the program all charges should be expunged from your record. I don't know about the bay area but around Bakersfield, which it seems to have a huge problem with suburban white kids and opiates, the cops love to make an example of anyone they catch with pills, especially OC. I would get a good lawyer and lay low for a while.

[Dan Steely]

[quote=AgentOrange;232339]^ what he said. And let this be a lesson to everyone -
NEVER CONSENT TO SEARCH. EVER![/quote)

No shit. Agood lawyer could have had this dismissed had he refused the search, maybe still.

Good luck to the op and let this be a lesson to others. Do not cooperate with cops. Be nice, ask to speak with your lawyer(even if you dont have one) and shut the fuck up.

to op, dont beat yourself up over this. Most people do learn this lesson the hard way,myself included).

[simfromstoke]

OMG! The old bill and whole legal system in america seems totally draconian! the coppers over here couldnt be arsed with doing the paperwork over 5 poxy pills. even gettin caught with gear over here in england aint no big deal. ive even seen a copper let my mate walk away with a teenth of gear after my mate begged him to let him walk and because he was rattling so bad he could hardly stand up.anything under a teenth of gear and 9 times out of 10 the copper will just chuck it on the floor and crush it under his foot.like i said -they cant be arsed with the paperwork and smack is so commonplace theres not enough cells in the country to hold every unlucky soul to get pulled and found in posession.i realy feel sorry for you guys over there in america.i gotta admit.. i couldnt live with your laws. id be banged up in five minutes! stay safe people and keep shtum when it comes to the five-oh!

[mart1n]

The bail was $15,000. I paid 10% of that through bail bonds. My wife and I have talked with a few sources, lawyers, cops, etc and I guess here in the Bay Area OC pills are worse to get caught with than tar, crack, etc. I don't understand where the logic is there. With OC you are not a part of the illicit manufacturing or trafficking of controlled substances, what a fucked up system. No, I was no actually in the BART station, just outside of it.

My initial hearing or whatever is tomorrow morning. I've been told that in SF it's not that uncommon for them to drop these cases before it even goes further, like my name might not even be on the list for a court hearing tomorrow. I'm crossing my fingers. Thanks for all of the responses!

[LorTabitha]

Good luck and keep us posted!!

[blackdog]

EVERYTHING YOU SAY CAN OR WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU IN COURT OF LAW.
THAT IS NO FUCKING LIE!! BUN OF A SITCH! MOFO'S
IT WAS LIKE DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN.
IT JUST SUCKED GETTING NAILED AFTER SPILLING THE BEANS OUT OF REMORSE AND BEING SICK & TIRED OF BEING SICK & TIRED......I HATED MAKING THEIR JOB EASIER FOR THEM AND STILL HAVING TO PAY THE PRICE.
i ADMIT A FEW PIGS WAS KOOL LIKE ON A TUES OR THURS(taskforce) IF YOU GOT PICKED UP EARLY ON AND HAD TO WAIT FOR THEM TO FILL THE VAN BEFORE THEY WOULD BRING YOU TO A PRECINT AND PROCESS YOU, well once in awhile there would be one pig that would buy drinks and/or ciggerettes. if u wuzz kewl .......:rolleyes:

[Chicago]

http://stopthedrugwar.org/videos/busted

Never consent to a search, there's nothing wrong with telling them they can't, also if they were to bring some dogs which rarely happens dogs can't smell pills.

YES, BEST TO ALLWAYS SAY YOU ARE LATE & WOULD BE RATHER ON UR WAY, THEN IN THIS MATTER IF YOU ARE HOLDING & THEY SEARCH YOU W/OUT A WARRANT IT WILL NOT HOLD, & THEY WILL HAVE TO GET A WARRENT, USUALLY DON'T WAIT FOR THIS & PROB SEARCH YOU THEN IT WILL BE DROPPED.

I am not 100% sure but I think the first offender program in CA is prop 36. in which you have to go to meetings, have your court card signed, and submit to random drug testing but as long as you complete the program all charges should be expunged from your record. I don't know about the bay area but around Bakersfield, which it seems to have a huge problem with suburban white kids and opiates, the cops love to make an example of anyone they catch with pills, especially OC. I would get a good lawyer and lay low for a while.

OK, IMO, CALI IS CALI, AS A STATE IS A STATE & THERE IS THE STATE LAW.
THIS SOUNDS PRETTY "HARSH" FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS NO RECORD AT ALL, & WAS CAUGHT W/PERSONAL STASH. AS FOR WHITE "KIDS" GOING INTO OTHER HOODS TO PURCHASE ANY NARCOTICS IS A PROBLEM ANYWHERE & COPS LOVE TO FUCK & SCARE THESE "KIDS"
BY GETTING AN ATTORNEY & WORKING SOMETHING OUT W/THE STATES ATTORNEY IS THE BEST BET TO GET A ATTORNEY THAT PRACTICES IN THIS SPECIFIC COURT HOUSE SO HE KNOWS ALL THE JUDGES & STATES ATTORNEYS, EASIER TO MAKE DEALS, SAYING THIS GUY IS A CLEAN KID W/A GOOD JOB, LETS JUST GIVE HIM THE DRUG SCHOOL 6 MONTHS 1-2 WEEK, & IF HE FUCKS UP AGAIN THEN WE CAN TAKE IT UP A NOTCH.

The bail was $15,000. I paid 10% of that through bail bonds. My wife and I have talked with a few sources, lawyers, cops, etc and I guess here in the Bay Area OC pills are worse to get caught with than tar, crack, etc. I don't understand where the logic is there. With OC you are not a part of the illicit manufacturing or trafficking of controlled substances, what a fucked up system. No, I was no actually in the BART station, just outside of it.

My initial hearing or whatever is tomorrow morning. I've been told that in SF it's not that uncommon for them to drop these cases before it even goes further, like my name might not even be on the list for a court hearing tomorrow. I'm crossing my fingers. Thanks for all of the responses!

1RST & MOST IMPORTANT, THE STATES ATTORNEY & OR JUDGE IS THE ONLY ONE TO MAKE THESE DESCIONS, NEVER BELIEVE WHAT THE POLICE PROMISE OR SOME LAWYERS & SOME OF YOUR SOURCES ECT...
I AM KINDA CONFUSED B/C WHEN WE GET POPPED OUT HERE WE GET A BOND WHICH SAYS WHEN & WHERE WE HAVE COURT AT, SO THERE IS NO CHANCE TO MISS IT B/C YOU THEN LOSE YOUR $1,500 BUKS, WHICH WILL GO TO YOUR ATTORNEY OR SOME TO YOUR COURT COSTS SUCH AS DRUG SCHOOL ECT,
I DON'T NO BUT A SCHD 1 NARCOTIC SUCH AS CRACK, HEROIN IS WORSE THEN ANY SCHD 2 NARCOTIC, B/C SCHD 2 CAN BE RX'D & AT THIS POINT THE JUDGE DOES NOT NO IF YOU HAVE A SCRIPT FOR THESE, UNLESS THEY HAVE YOU ON CAMERA BUYING THESE FROM A KNOWN DRUG AREA/BLOCK OFF SOMEONE WHO SERVES 24/7 & BEEN ON SURVELIANCE. JUST CHILL TILL YOU GO UP IN FRONT OF THE JUDGE, YOU STILL CAN GO IN FRONT OF THE JUDGE & ASK FOR A CONTINUENCE FOR ANOTHER COURT DATE UP TO 3 TIMES TILL YOU FIND THE ATTORNEY YOU LIKE & IS GETTING YOU WHAT YOU DESERVE.
BUT NO RECORD & WORKING, DON'T SWEAT IT. REMEMBER WHAT I SAID ONLY THE D.A. OR JUDGE MAKES THE FINAL DESCION, THE COPS ONLY TRY TO MAKE YOU TALK YOUR WAY INTO HELL. YOU DID NOT MAKE A STATEMENT DID YOU?
B/C IF THEY ARRESTED YOU, THERE SHOULD BE NO REASON FOR A STATEMENT, UNLESS YOU DID MAKE A STATEMENT, THAT YOU COULD OF FUCKED YOUR SELF BIG TIME & BASICLY WROTE A LEETER TO THE JUDGE SAYING YOUR GUILTY, IF YOU DID NOT, THAT IS WHERE YOOUR ATTORNEY COMES IN TO FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT. YOU ARE NOT PROVEN GUILTY YET...

[Raz]

Bro serious the best thing you can do on opi, is get a pm goin wiv chi..he will help you, as he knows the system..

[Chicago]

@RAZ,,
This pimps avatar, scares me, IMO, why would any newbie put a picture of a police station up?
Some trippy shit...
That avatar of his scares me, well any picture of POLICE STAIONS SACRE ME.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT A NEWBIE MAKING HIS 1RST POST ABOUT GETTING POPPED, & HIS PIC IS A POLICE STATION.
I JUST NOTICED THIS, NO OFFENSE TO THE PIMP ON THE OP, BUT IT JUST TRIPS ME OUT:speechles

Bro serious the best thing you can do on opi, is get a pm goin wiv chi..he will help you, as he knows the system..

[blackdog]

well well, that just about has to be one of the prettyiest
pigpens i've seen in quite some while. sooooooiiiieeeeee here pig,pigpigpig soouuuieeeeee heya pigpigpigpigggggggggyyyy

[mart1n]

Haha, I put this avatar up before I ever got arrested with possession. This is a picture of the Tenderloin police station. I used this avatar because I cop in the Tenderloin and the police station is only a block away from "The Block" where everyone sells tar and pills. I used it because anyone else on opiophile from the San Francisco area would recognize it.

[Chicago]

No JOKE, THAT REALLY DOES LOOK LIKE A CLASSY POLICE STATION...
I would love to spend a night there COMPARED TO THE PLACES I HAVE BEEN, LOL
DO THEY SERVE Mc DONALDS also?
PLACE LOOKS LIKE A MALL/BEVERLY HILLS TYPE STATION.:)

Haha, I put this avatar up before I ever got arrested with possession. This is a picture of the Tenderloin police station. I used this avatar because I cop in the Tenderloin and the police station is only a block away from "The Block" where everyone sells tar and pills. I used it because anyone else on opiophile from the San Francisco area would recognize it.

[strikks]

never been in trouble? unless the judge is a fuck, and you dont say anything dumb.....you will get community service, and prolly have to go to some drug class where they piss test you for 3 months or something, you didnt have intent to sell or anything......anyways, dont worry to much, you arnt going to Folsom.


prolly is NOT an acceptable word!!

just kiddin'


to the OP, i just got popped with 37 bags of good 'H' and NEVER consented to a search and they had NO probable cause so my lawyer says i should be cool. my advise is GET A GOOD LAWYER WHO IS GOOD WITH DRUG/CRIMINAL CASES DO THE RESEARCH ASK AROUND whos good and what not i am from PA so i cant help you on that but sounds to me that they will win the argument that they had prob cause .your job will prob disqualify you for a pubic pretender anywhooo!! and dont get a cheap lawyer either do what you can but try and get a reputable ,good ,expensive, lawyer and they usually know judges,DAs ,cops ,etc. and have connections and it will help get it dropped to a disorderly conduct or something!!

you should get rehab and probation if you cry the addict card BUT you have to get and stay clean for the duration if not you will violate and go to jail for sure.and you will always be an addict in the system so if god and goddess forbid you get in any other trouble down the road you are LABELED !!

so dont kid yourself,can you get and stay clean for 1-2 years probation?? and if you think you will have a problem then i would try anything to get it dropped or have your lawyer argue that you did NOT cop from the girl. had them from mom's,gramma's,uncle joes ,friends etc. prescription and you have a problem with chronic pain and the doctors wont give you anything and you just cannot stand the back,head,neck,dick,ass or whatever pain from a car accident where a drunk driver hit you and ruined your quality of life...........make up a good one...or tell the truth if you are a pain person like me.

but follow your good lawyers advice and tell him the truth and beg borrow and steal for that money to get a good attorney it means ALOT believe me, i have 15 prior arrests i know what i am talking about.

i will never ever get a "pubic pretender"(i did not spell that wrong) for a lawyer again!!! i learned the hard way 2-4 years upstate ,hard way!!and never, ever ,consent to a search ever!!!
guilty or not ,probable cause or not, they will play gotcha games with you until you give up your rights, never give up your rights, ever!!
warrant?? get one!! drug dog?? get one!! they will find it anyway,do not make there job any eaiser.cops lie and they are trained to get you to waive your rights this is bullshit!!! i feel for you!! i am facing a mandatory minimum of 2-4 years in state prison for bags of dope that were for me really,but i still am getting charged with intent. and with my record the judge could go outside the guidelines and give me more than the mandatory minimum. and with out a good attorney i might as well bend over and take it.that is why i am/will sell my first born for lawyer money(just kiddin) but really,get a loan ,ask your parents ,anything !!!just GET A GOOD ATTORNEY!!



"the laws must change"

[Coddfish]

there are "good lawyers" and then there are lawyers who know people and shit and can do the job you need the to do. every town or city has at least one. get that one. you don't get to choose a pub def if you have money ie, you make 15k bail, at least where i'm from.


one day this will be over. you will be looked at as one of the millions of victims in the drug war. that sucks.

[bigNasty]

like everyone said, don't be a cheap ass and get a good lawyer when it comes to your freedom and your chances of getting future jobs if you fuck your record up. But, since you have a clean record, you should be OK. Maybe a year probation and then get it off your record or dropped to a misdemeanor.
Ask lots of questions though, cuz you don't wanna plead guilty to what you think is a bullshit misdemeanor drug charge and pay a fine and have that on your record forever if you don't have to.
Most states' Bureau of Narcotics stores all drug convictions in a database and they'll fuck you if you ever get popped again and you really don't wanna a drug charge on your record when looking for employment.

[More Feen]

I'm legally ignorant (so get a decent attorney).

BUT, there'd be several believable reasons for having a few pills on you:

1- Found them, put in pocket, forgot about them,
2- Friend borrowed jacket, friend has Rx for drugs found, friend left in jacket,
3- Person dropped pills, you gathered them up but they got on a bus before you could return them,
4- They are YOUR pills, Rx by a doctor the last time your were in Mexico, you lost the bottle & Rx.
5- Some little kids were playing with them, but you took the pills away and were going to turn them over to the police anyway (in this story-you're a hero).

As long as you did not admit to doing anything illegal, especially on video, you/ your attorney can create an utterly believable story, maybe even make the SFPD look like the Gestapo.

MF

[nick]

I'm legally ignorant (so get a decent attorney).

BUT, there'd be several believable reasons for having a few pills on you:

1- Found them, put in pocket, forgot about them,
2- Friend borrowed jacket, friend has Rx for drugs found, friend left in jacket,
3- Person dropped pills, you gathered them up but they got on a bus before you could return them,
4- They are YOUR pills, Rx by a doctor the last time your were in Mexico, you lost the bottle & Rx.
5- Some little kids were playing with them, but you took the pills away and were going to turn them over to the police anyway (in this story-you're a hero).

As long as you did not admit to doing anything illegal, especially on video, you/ your attorney can create an utterly believable story, maybe even make the SFPD look like the Gestapo.

MF

Ummm I wouldn't have the balls to tell a cop any of the above.They'd hit you or laugh.

[strikks]

Ummm I wouldn't have the balls to tell a cop any of the above.They'd hit you or laugh.


they wood hit you while laughing!!!!!

[nick]

they wood hit you while laughing!!!!!

Beautiful and ain't it the truth man.

[rockbottom]

in california youll propbably get prop 36 iforget how many months that is but its probation where you have to drug test 2x aweek go to meetings if you succeed you can get the felony dropped to a misdeameaner. but if your an addict its almost impossible to succeed. definatly get a laywer we call public defenders penitentery deliverers. good luck im a felon myself possion of a controlled substance9lie in court and say you never gave them permission to search you. then again a good laywer could get you off; good luck from the bottom of my heart ~Peace~ Rock:cool:

[More Feen]

Fuck,

let the cops laugh all they want to, what you need to do is convince the Judge or Jury that you were a victim of circumstance.

If you can tell the Judge/Jury a believable excuse, and keep a straight, honest face, its fuck-all what the cops think, or say.

I'm probably too naive about US cops & judicial system, etc..., to be of much help. My gut says "deny, deny, deny everything."

A good lawyer will be your best bet.

[nick]

Fuck,

let the cops laugh all they want to, what you need to do is convince the Judge or Jury that you were a victim of circumstance.

If you can tell the Judge/Jury a believable excuse, and keep a straight, honest face, its fuck-all what the cops think, or say.

I'm probably too naive about US cops & judicial system, etc..., to be of much help. My gut says "deny, deny, deny everything."

A good lawyer will be your best bet.

A good lawyer is a must,but it's worth remembering that once you've been bust.....you're all theres.They can make life hard or harder.Always be polite and don't treat them like idiots.Denial is great,but it's got to be plausable.

[Chicago]

@Nick, exactly...
ur in there hands & in there house, so if u gotta put aside ur pride & act like a pussy "DO IT", act like u never been arrested or no nothing about the system or maybe a REAL DUMB FUCK,it makes these pigs feel real tough or superior(sp) but in the back of ur mind u no what the deal is, so sometimes u gotta put ur pride aside to get by on a lesser charge, TRUST ME.

MOST BEAT COPS ARE JUST KIDS WHO WERE PICKED ON IN SCHOOL, FOR EXAMPLE I GO 2 DA GYM & 3 cops I grew up w/go there, 2 were picked on & neve ever had a lady b4, & the other I use to gang bang with, now the one I use to gang bang w/is narc tact unit, which he even stops chats w/people on the block & no's what the deal is & will let u go unless you got a kilo of dope or a felony murder warrent thats open.
The others keep there mouth shut in the gym & when seen on the street, never say shit 2 me b/c I no where they live & so on, but most sure they would arrest me, but think they kool w/me when they w/they partners,
lol cops:jerkoff: &:angry2: am I right.

A good lawyer is a must,but it's worth remembering that once you've been bust.....you're all theres.They can make life hard or harder.Always be polite and don't treat them like idiots.Denial is great,but it's got to be plausable.