Guess what? Kyuss is kickin again (yawn)

[kyuss]

48 hours since my last dose.
Starting feeling like shit
12 hours in.
Eyes running,depressed,
legs aching,anxiety,hot flashes.
Tempted to do one heaping Tbsp
to ease the pain.
Or should I just keep at it?
Using advil,loperamide,and kratom.

[LorTabitha]

How much do you have left? A taper (waiting a day or two, having a small dose, then another day, a smaller dose, etc) usually works best for me. Otherwise, I cave... Either way, good luck!!

[kyuss]

Probably around
12-14 tablespoons.
And some stems/seeds.

[LorTabitha]

In that case, a heaping Tbs would probably do wonders. :-)

[GoddessofRATs]

That's always a hard one Kyuss. I don't know, do you really want to quit? Oh wait, you are trying to quit because of your new job coming up, right?

Well, I'd say just do it and feel better, no sense in suffering when you don't have to. but, that's me and i don't have the responsibility of a new job and drug tests, so listening to me might not be a good idea but i hate seeing anyone i care about suffer.

Maybe just do a small maintenance dose to take the edge off??

GOR

[kyuss]

In that case, a heaping Tbs would probably do wonders. :-)
I love you.
Be right back....

That's always a hard one Kyuss. I don't know, do you really want to quit? Oh wait, you are trying to quit because of your new job coming up, right?
Well, I'd say just do it and feel better, no sense in suffering when you don't have to. but, that's me and i don't have the responsibility of a new job and drug tests, so listening to me might not be a good idea but i hate seeing anyone i care about suffer.
Maybe just do a small maintenance dose to take the edge off??
GOR
More love
to the GOR,
be right back.

[LorTabitha]

Right back at ya buddy! Hope you're feeling good soon! :-)

[upstate_007]

Sorry to hear that man.

The spoonful of lovin will take away the heebie jeebies.....but they will be back. I aint telling you anything you don't know already though. It might make things easier though to have a spoonful a day to lesssen the hell you are going through. After all, jumping off from a spoonful a day when it runs out will be easier than a larger amount.

Don't know what to tell you man. It aint easy and there aint no easy way out.

Best of luck to you though. Keep in mind that each day after a certain point gets better. It's hard to imagine that sometimes when you are in the thick of it.

[kyuss]

Sorry to hear that man.

The spoonful of lovin will take away the heebie jeebies.....but they will be back. I aint telling you anything you don't know already though. It might make things easier though to have a spoonful a day to lesssen the hell you are going through. After all, jumping off from a spoonful a day when it runs out will be easier than a larger amount.

Don't know what to tell you man. It aint easy and there aint no easy way out.

Best of luck to you though. Keep in mind that each day after a certain point gets better. It's hard to imagine that sometimes when you are in the thick of it.

Yep, I know it.
Funny how every time
you kick it feels like the first.
I'm already feeling a little better.
Hell,I went in my room
and was digging into my coffee can
right as my wife walked by.
She asked me what I was taking,
kratom,I said. Haven't dosed yet.
At least I'll get a few hours reprieve.

[slugbone]

Yep, I know it.
Funny how every time
you kick it feels like the first.
I'm already feeling a little better.
Hell,I went in my room
and was digging into my coffee can
right as my wife walked by.
She asked me what I was taking,
kratom,I said. Haven't dosed yet.
At least I'll get a few hours reprieve.

time to call the doggies off
tired of their shadowing
slide me to the side again,
slapped in the face again

some day my plane leaves

some way my head creeps

[xecutrex]

If youve gone this long just stick it out. Youll be sicker this way but atleast the w/ds wont be a long drawn out process...just 3 days of hell and it starts getting better. I perfer that than a long drawn out w/d that you get with redosing/taper even though its not as bad you still cant sleep and I would rather do 3 days of hell and get back to sleeping semi normal

[Indy]

sha-la lalalala live for today.....

[kyuss]

time to call the doggies off
tired of their shadowing
slide me to the side again,
slapped in the face again

some day my plane leaves

some way my head creeps


Some day my head leads
Some way my head creeps

No more time
Just one more time

and another spoon (sigh)

[GoddessofRATs]

You know i adore you Kyuss. Your the first person to talk to me here and open up to me. We joined about the same time and we kinda got a feel for this place together.

And since i care for you, i don't want you to suffer. So I'm gonna say ti again, go ahead and have a few spoons of pods. LOL.

No seriously, if this is for the job thing than maybe it's not such a great idea. But, if you have enough time to get it out of your system than by all means, partake in the lovely pod!

Love ya back my friend.

GOR

[kyuss]

You know i adore you Kyuss. Your the first person to talk to me here and open up to me. We joined about the same time and we kinda got a feel for this place together.

And since i care for you, i don't want you to suffer. So I'm gonna say ti again, go ahead and have a few spoons of pods. LOL.

No seriously, if this is for the job thing than maybe it's not such a great idea. But, if you have enough time to get it out of your system than by all means, partake in the lovely pod!

Love ya back my friend.

GOR


Thank you Goddess.
I'm still on track,
none yesterday
and 2 big spoons today.
Hell,better than 12-14,right?
I'll get there.

[clinton]

Are you quitting for quite awhile or only until you secure the job?how many times have you quit before? Some people say the pod withdrawal gets woRse each additonal withdrawal , do you find this to be true?

[xecutrex]

It makes sense...the greater the tolerance grows the greater the sickness.

[Thebane]

Thank you Goddess.
I'm still on track,
none yesterday
and 2 big spoons today.
Hell,better than 12-14,right?
I'll get there.

Good luck with getting off. If you can get comfortable on 2 or 3 heaping tablespoons of grounds, I really think you can switch to kratom with little more than discomfort. Of course I doubt you're comfortable now on 2 spoons worth. But anyways, I've already told you this, good luck man. I really hope you can get off, I couldn't seem to without tapering to kratom.

[tptptp]

Hey Kyuss remember when we were going at this like a year ago? heheh I dunno what to say man. I would dread the day I came off of pods cold it's always a motivating factor whether it be jail, stuck somewhere, running out, whatever it would be a nightmare especially if you needed to function to get out of the situation...tapering down low seems to work well for some but not all but even then I'd prefer a switch before kicking. Pod WD just lasts too damn long and is nasty.

I still say move to kratom or something the first few days it's much easier to come off and you won't test positive on it either.

The only mental advice I would say is think of the long-term, not the short-term of what you feel now but that you can get off, eventually feel normal again and not need the shit to survive. Nt what you feel now, but later.

I think cold turkeying off pods is next to impossible too if you have any real habit as long as you have stuff to use. I think kratom is awesome for it. Can completely take the WD away.

[Saint]

Good luck with your taper Kyuss. I know it sucks... well we all know that. Take it slow and don't be too hard on yourself.
Tptptp: how long can you keep kratom? I still have a huge bag from about a year ago and am tapering again (sigh..) myself. Would it still be usable?

[kyuss]

thanks guys.

Clinton-I've tried around
4-5 times in the last year,
it's become a running joke on here.
And yes,it's harder every time.
So easy to order a box of warm blanket.

I've got a shoe box of kratom.
I was telling tpx3 that I've got
the full spectrum of kratom:
Bali,UIE,EB,even a little 250x;
it's just not helping much this time.

Those 2 tbsp of grounds
after doing kratom all day
finally gave a little relief.
I slept 5 hours and I'm debating on
using a few tbsp's again today.
The danger is those 2 spoons
becoming a half cup or more.
I need to be clean by the 10th.

Thanks all for the support.
I'm a pussy when it comes to kicking,
hell,nick and papa can ct from grams
and I get stuck on pods ;)

Saint-
Kratom holds pretty well
if you keep it cool and well sealed.

[ein0606]

kyuss - can you be on methadone? or suboxone?

[bronyraur]

Kyuss, I'd say just stick it out–but I'm not the one who's WDing...if it was me in your spot, I'd say "fuck it" and take a couple tablespoons to ease the misery.

Good luck either way bro.

sha-la lalalala live for today.....

I didn't think you were old enough to even know that song...

[kyuss]

kyuss - can you be on methadone? or suboxone?

I could but don't.
I've tried both and like subs.
Used to get em regularly
but you know how that goes.
I think subs would be better for a trucker.

Kyuss, I'd say just stick it out–but I'm not the one who's WDing...if it was me in your spot, I'd say "fuck it" and take a couple tablespoons to ease the misery.

Good luck either way bro.



I didn't think you were old enough to even know that song...

Thanks Brony.
Yeah,Indy's got that tune
stuck in my head now.
I like the Lords of The New Church version best.

[nick]

No advice,just much luck bro.


and remember that,make it or not,just trying gets my respect.

[tptptp]

Kyuss - don't have firsthand experience with it but from those who have they claim pod kicking is about equal to methadone so I'd say its harder than "grams" then again I'm sure someone doing a high amount of IV'd H for a few years still probably knocks the shit out of any little ass pod tolerances around here.

Have you tried just taking a large dose of Kratom??? Mix it in V8 to get it down. By the way it's all about commercial leaf, forget the extracts. Yeah It's no pods but it beats the shit out of tramadol and seems to cover the wide spectrum of what pods do well.

It wears off quick though. But being able to get 6 hours of sleep after a strong dose (so long as it doesn't wind ya up) is priceless during a WD.

If nothing else it should kill the edge and get you some Z's (take that fucking RLS away for a little bit that shit is horrible w/pods)

SAINT: IDK depends how old it was before you got it too. It probably still works somewhat even if not much. Only one way to find out.

[kyuss]

No advice,just much luck bro.


and remember that,make it or not,just trying gets my respect.

Thanks Nick,
good to see you posting again,
as you can see
some things never change ;)
Maybe this time,right?
Kyuss - don't have firsthand experience with it but from those who have they claim pod kicking is about equal to methadone so I'd say its harder than "grams" then again I'm sure someone doing a high amount of IV'd H for a few years still probably knocks the shit out of any little ass pod tolerances around here.

Have you tried just taking a large dose of Kratom??? Mix it in V8 to get it down. By the way it's all about commercial leaf, forget the extracts. Yeah It's no pods but it beats the shit out of tramadol and seems to cover the wide spectrum of what pods do well.

It wears off quick though. But being able to get 6 hours of sleep after a strong dose (so long as it doesn't wind ya up) is priceless during a WD.

If nothing else it should kill the edge and get you some Z's (take that fucking RLS away for a little bit that shit is horrible w/pods)

SAINT: IDK depends how old it was before you got it too. It probably still works somewhat even if not much. Only one way to find out.

I gotcha.
Munching out of my
tony the tiger bowl
as I type ;)

[Raz]

Mucho respecto, Buena suerte hombre.Tu tiene grande cojhones para intentar....

Basically,respect,good luck and you have big bollox for givin this kick a go...Raz

[kyuss]

Mucho respecto, Buena suerte hombre.Tu tiene grande cojhones para intentar....

Basically,respect,good luck and you have big bollox for givin this kick a go...Raz

Thanks Raz.
Shit bro,my balls
are the size of walnuts.
Gotta do this for the money.
Once I've been driving awhile
I'll throw the kratom at a lot lizard
and start chipping again.

[Indy]

Just remember that the longer you stay off, the lower your dose, the less frequent your doses.....the lower your tolerance is, and the higher and HIGHER you get.

[kyuss]

Just remember that the longer you stay off, the lower your dose, the less frequent your doses.....the lower your tolerance is, and the higher and HIGHER you get.

Wise words,Indy.

[Saint]

I gotta hand it to you that you've got balls, even if they're the size of walnuts, for kicking like this. I sure hope it works out. And thanks (Ptptpt as well) for the kratom-advice.. I'll find out soon enough whether it still works, once I'll hit a low enough dose of methadone I'll certainly try some.

Until then I keep going down down down... down down down... (got that song stuck in my head from watching 'Blast to the past' on telly the other night.. or I think it's from that movie? Can't get it out of my head anymore.

[Indy]

EDIT: wtf i keep getting glitchy posts and double posts. sorry mods, i don't know what it is i seem to attract it.

[kyuss]

I gotta hand it to you that you've got balls, even if they're the size of walnuts, for kicking like this. I sure hope it works out. And thanks (Ptptpt as well) for the kratom-advice.. I'll find out soon enough whether it still works, once I'll hit a low enough dose of methadone I'll certainly try some.

Until then I keep going down down down... down down down... (got that song stuck in my head from watching 'Blast to the past' on telly the other night.. or I think it's from that movie? Can't get it out of my head anymore.

Thanks Saint.
I think Speciosa
has the best kratom right now.
Their UEI is really good.

[SurfRat]

I wish you the best on this, much respect, stay with it, it will get better.

[slugbone]

Thanks Saint.
I think Speciosa
has the best kratom right now.
Their UEI is really good.


i got faith in the eagle , k-man. keep fightin. you've always had faith in me, so right back at ya brother.

[Levity]

Good kuck kyuss. I always liked you more than I did other people.
Congrats on the job and best of luck with the kick.

[Papa Verine]

Good luck Kyuss. And if you've got something that'll help a little, Do it! It's just as you said, things can escalate. But as long as you make sure things don't escalate, you can do it. It's a taper. Don't expect to get high...just expect to not have to feel soooo bad about it. Like I did last week! Fuck! Why would I put myself through that? And now here I am snorting H again. I made it 10 days. Much better luck to you Kyuss!!!

[Duckfeet]

Well, I'm not having any luck: now I've got two fucking gold-plated habits going...or rather, I have managed to go a week off of methadone, but I'm doing a gram a day of tar, so I don't know: I do hope you're doing better than me, Kyuss...I'm trying to remember if I've *ever* kicked without getting far away from source...either thru driving across several states, or flying to somewhere... fucked deal: best wishes, Kyuss...

[Seedy]

Hey man, best of luck. I'd offer you some advice but I know you've heard it all. I hope your home life is conducive to kicking. Is conducive a word? What I mean is i hope things are going better with your wife & you have her support.

[kyuss]

Thanks guys.
I fucked up a bit last
and got hammered on rum.
I've gone back and deleted
my drunken ramblings.
Anyhow,I'm still tapering,
yesterday only one tbsp,
xanax,kratom,and rum.
Today,xanax and 3 tbsps-
to deal with the hangover.

[GoddessofRATs]

Wishing you the best with this Kyuss. I know it's so hard and the temptation to say fuck it all is overwhelming.

I'll hoping for the best for ya.

GOR

[kyuss]

Wishing you the best with this Kyuss. I know it's so hard and the temptation to say fuck it all is overwhelming.

I'll hoping for the best for ya.

GOR

Thanks sugar,
all I can do is try.

I really appreciate
everyone's support.
Say what you like
about Opiophile-
one thing is for sure;
we support our own.

[xxanxx]

'Tis true...

Good luck to you Kyuss, I know how it feels to kick pods - and it sure isn't pretty.

[ZodiacKiller]

Good luck to you, my brother Kyuss....

It's a bitch, plain n' simple. I'm down to 1-2mgs Sub and can't seem to make the last step-down. It sucks being addicted to something and getting no joy from it...

Hang in, bro...



ZK

[LorTabitha]

Here's some white light and good wishes to all who are trying to kick... Hang in there... :-)

[kyuss]

Thanks guys.
Yesterday was around
4 tbsps,kratom,and xanax.
So far today-1 Tbsp and xanax.
Will use kratom tonight.
Slipped up yesterday from hangover.
Alcohol,a bad idea during WDs.

[upstate_007]

Alcohol,a bad idea during WDs.

But it always seems like a fantastic idea while you are drinking it.

[LorTabitha]

Hang in there Kyuss... You're almost there....

[xxanxx]

Yes Kyuss, you should be getting close now, I hope you feel better soon!

[kyuss]

Thanks guys.
I think I'm gonna make it.
Only 1 tbsp today
with 3 doses of kratom,
2 10 mg valium
and the six pack I'm nursing now.

[slugbone]

Thanks guys.
I think I'm gonna make it.
Only 1 tbsp today
with 3 doses of kratom,
2 10 mg valium
and the six pack I'm nursing now.


break on through
break on through

to the other side yeah

[Thebane]

Thanks guys.
I think I'm gonna make it.
Only 1 tbsp today
with 3 doses of kratom,
2 10 mg valium
and the six pack I'm nursing now.

Just make sure that 6-pack doesn't make getting high seem like the best idea in the world... That's pretty much how all my kicking attempts go. But you're also twice the man I am. I never could kick pods, had to switch to kratom instead.

[kyuss]

break on through
break on through

to the other side yeah

yessir,
reminds me of
my drunken posts
the other night.

Just make sure that 6-pack doesn't make getting high seem like the best idea in the world... That's pretty much how all my kicking attempts go. But you're also twice the man I am. I never could kick pods, had to switch to kratom instead.

No,Im good.
I've got 10 days
before the job hunt begins.
Shit,Im ready to get outta this house.
I think a change will do me good.

[RxQueen]

best of luck, kyuss. you can do this... you'll be king of the road again soon, i just know it! you gonna go for local routes, or long-haul?

[Saint]

Good luck Kyuss, you deserve some

[kyuss]

best of luck, kyuss. you can do this... you'll be king of the road again soon, i just know it! you gonna go for local routes, or long-haul?

Longhaul,RXQ.
Local usually involves
unloading freight
and my back can't take that.


Good luck Kyuss, you deserve some

Thanks St.
I did good today,
no pods at all.
I'm a bit hot and sweaty
but,sticking the course.


All you guys and gals
have definitely helped ;)

[xxanxx]

Excellent Kyuss, glad to hear it.

Good luck with the job hunting as well!!

[kyuss]

Excellent Kyuss, glad to hear it.

Good luck with the job hunting as well!!

Thanks x,
I've gotta give your namesake
time to clear out too.
It's looking like 14 days on benzos.

[ein0606]

Thanks x,
I've gotta give your namesake
time to clear out too.
It's looking like 14 days on benzos.


hey kyuss
There are times when you get suckered in
By drugs and alchohol and sex with women-mmkay
But its when you do these things too much
That you've become an addict and must get back in touch
You can do it Its all up to you-mmmmmkay
With a little plan you can change your life tooo-day
You dont have to spend your life addicted to smack
Homeless on the streets giving handjobs for crack
Follow my plan and very soon you will see-eeyy, its easy mmkay


sounds like everyones got your back.
we all love ya
take care!!!!!!!

"the young dude"

[kyuss]

hey kyuss
There are times when you get suckered in
By drugs and alchohol and sex with women-mmkay
But its when you do these things too much
That you've become an addict and must get back in touch
You can do it Its all up to you-mmmmmkay
With a little plan you can change your life tooo-day
You dont have to spend your life addicted to smack
Homeless on the streets giving handjobs for crack
Follow my plan and very soon you will see-eeyy, its easy mmkay


sounds like everyones got your back.
we all love ya
take care!!!!!!!

"the young dude"

Thanks Bro.

Update:
Well,my slow taper
was slowly expanding the tbsps,
so Monday at 12:30 pm I quit that.
It's been 83 hours without opiates.
My legs are killing me,but it aint too bad.
I've gotta terrible odor,I think from the kratom-
which isn't helping much anyway.
I'm taking xanax,advil,and loperamide.
Yesterday was a motherfucker,real tearfest.
Its gonna be awhile before I use again
when this is all over,I'm tired of hurting.
I'll just have to deal with the depression.
I did learn one good thing tho,
maybe Blackdog can back this up,
cos I never knew it
but apparently the DOT test doesn't include Benzos.
Still fighting the fight.

[Saint]

Good to hear you're doing well.
About the odour: I smell like the apehouse in our local zoo when I'm kicking. Asthough my body is getting rid of al poisons inside.. It will get better. I'm tapering (again) too. Hope I'll make it as far as you did. Came from 60 mgs of methadone, am on 25 now.
83 hours... That's something to be ral proud of. Hang in there!

[RxQueen]

glad to hear that you're still at it, kyuss! and a damn good piece of news about the lack of a benzo screen.... i'd hate to think of a benzo-devoid kick. *shudder*

remember, it's okay to stink... you can wash after the shit's outta yer system. hope today's a good one for ya!

[Cherry's Jubilee]

Yesterday was a motherfucker,real tearfest.
Its gonna be awhile before I use again
when this is all over,I'm tired of hurting.
I'll just have to deal with the depression.
Still fighting the fight.

I think it's so strange (and I'm not AO or robojunkie so the logistics of addiction/tolerance etc are about as clear as mud to me) that the memory of how unbelievably shitty we feel as a result of using isn't enough to make us not want more.

For example, when I was 14 I ate a bunch of pistachios and they were really really good and then I came down with a stomach virus that night and threw up and felt like shit. And and it's 15 years later and you couldn't pay me enough money to eat a fucking pistachio. Yet, I'll kick for 5 or 6 days and feel like total crap and put myself through this whole torturous hell with the direct association of "this is because of drugs" but I still want to do it again.

I realize that the happiness induced by morphine is probably slightly greater than that induced by a pistachio, but it's still a weird concept for me. The consequences are just so extreme.

I hope things are a little better today kyuss!

[I-Nod]

Thanks guys.
I fucked up a bit last
and got hammered on rum.
I've gone back and deleted
my drunken ramblings.

What I'd give to have that ability!! It's always scary for me to see what I posted while drunk... and usually for good reason!

Just seen this thread, bro... haven't been around as much lately, but I hope you are finding a little peace throughout your day. Not much longer for the RLS and the "stomach churn" to go away... hang in there, Ky! :)

I realize that the happiness induced by morphine is probably slightly greater than that induced by a pistachio, but it's still a weird concept for me.

Orally... pistachios are more euphoric than morphine. However, I have never IV'd a pistachio, so my opinion is biased in those regards. :D

[Papa Verine]

You're going to feel better soon Kyuss!

Hang in there man. I bet the Kratom is helping a little, you just don't realize how much worse you'd a felt without that. Taper down on the Kratom too so you can ease yourself to sobriety.

I'm really pulling for you man! I'm sober now, besides some Klonopins and it isn't THAT bad. I can shovel snow, I've proven that this week.

You'll be feeling better soon. And alcohol is going to make you feel like your W/D's are worse the next day. Try to skip the drinking and see how you feel tomorrow. At least it's been my experience anyway...

I was going to get high yesterday, I won't try to kid anybody... but my friend who was picking up the H for us got pulled over and they found it. Now she's locked up, I'm out $100, but she's the one who's really in trouble.

Fuck, maybe I should just stay sober!

[xxanxx]

That is excellent news about the DOT drug tests, Kyuss. Now that I think about about I should have known that - my uncle owned an Air and Freight company for years and I worked for him. I can remember being on xanax then and no one knowing. Now, they did know about the morphine, of course :D

You are doing good Kyuss, and I think you will be successful on both fronts.

[LorTabitha]

My legs are killing me,but it aint too bad...I've gotta terrible odor,I think from the kratom-which isn't helping much anyway...I'll just have to deal with the depression.

I'm so glad to see you're hanging in there and completing your pod taper. It's not easy and you're doing a GREAT job!

You might try browsing at your local (mom & pop if possible) health food store and asking for employees' recommendations for the above symptoms. You might be able to find some "natural" ways to help yourself. There's a brand (but for the life of me I can't remember the name!) that has a "Pain Free" formula, along with a mood enhancer, a sleep aid, energy aid, etc. They don't use the "typical" vitamins and herbs in their products, so they've always worked pretty welll with my system. I'm sure there's lots of brands like that out there.

Go Kyuss!!! (said in my best cheerleading voice)

[candyshop]

you have balls of solid titanium kyuss-
if anyone can do this you can

wishing you endlesss strength
and some sorta peace

you rock surpreme

[kyuss]

What I'd give to have that ability!! It's always scary for me to see what I posted while drunk... and usually for good reason!

Just seen this thread, bro... haven't been around as much lately, but I hope you are finding a little peace throughout your day. Not much longer for the RLS and the "stomach churn" to go away... hang in there, Ky! :)



Orally... pistachios are more euphoric than morphine. However, I have never IV'd a pistachio, so my opinion is biased in those regards. :D

I hope so Bro,
RLS is testing my resolve.

You're going to feel better soon Kyuss!

Hang in there man. I bet the Kratom is helping a little, you just don't realize how much worse you'd a felt without that. Taper down on the Kratom too so you can ease yourself to sobriety.

I'm really pulling for you man! I'm sober now, besides some Klonopins and it isn't THAT bad. I can shovel snow, I've proven that this week.

You'll be feeling better soon. And alcohol is going to make you feel like your W/D's are worse the next day. Try to skip the drinking and see how you feel tomorrow. At least it's been my experience anyway...

I was going to get high yesterday, I won't try to kid anybody... but my friend who was picking up the H for us got pulled over and they found it. Now she's locked up, I'm out $100, but she's the one who's really in trouble.

Fuck, maybe I should just stay sober!

Been there Papa.
I hat when friends get popped
when getting my shit.
The k could be helping
but damn if I feel it.

That is excellent news about the DOT drug tests, Kyuss. Now that I think about about I should have known that - my uncle owned an Air and Freight company for years and I worked for him. I can remember being on xanax then and no one knowing. Now, they did know about the morphine, of course :D

You are doing good Kyuss, and I think you will be successful on both fronts.

Thanks bro,'
the benzos are helping.
I'm so glad to see you're hanging in there and completing your pod taper. It's not easy and you're doing a GREAT job!

You might try browsing at your local (mom & pop if possible) health food store and asking for employees' recommendations for the above symptoms. You might be able to find some "natural" ways to help yourself. There's a brand (but for the life of me I can't remember the name!) that has a "Pain Free" formula, along with a mood enhancer, a sleep aid, energy aid, etc. They don't use the "typical" vitamins and herbs in their products, so they've always worked pretty welll with my system. I'm sure there's lots of brands like that out there.

Go Kyuss!!! (said in my best cheerleading voice)
hmmm,
I'll check on that

you have balls of solid titanium kyuss-
if anyone can do this you can

wishing you endlesss strength
and some sorta peace

you rock surpreme

Thanks sweetheart,
I've missed you


Update:
96 hours thru.
Bad fight with wife last night
I was in a mood from
Nick Cave and beer and plenty of xanax.
Just found 4 mg of sub
and snorted 1 mg
for RLS,we'll see


PS-
I dont know why
Saint,RXQ,and Sicily
didn't take my quoting..
cos I quoted ya-
but thanks guys.

And RX-
the smell is different this time,
smells really rank

[slugbone]

you have balls of solid titanium kyuss-
if anyone can do this you can

wishing you endlesss strength
and some sorta peace

you rock surpreme

ditto.

the frog gives you mad props -

[kyuss]

ditto.

the frog gives you mad props -

I couldn't have
done it w/o you guys.
How's life Sluggy?

[slugbone]

I couldn't have
done it w/o you guys.
How's life Sluggy?


swimming in a sea of resin. i spent half a day wednesday making a couple batches of extract with 100 of my remaining pods, and slowing simmering down.

with my patented "triple filter" technique using coffee filters it is pretty dark and strong.

but i've got to take a break, i didn't sleep at all last night and i scratched so much my skin is sore in places,

[kyuss]

swimming in a sea of resin. i spent half a day wednesday making a couple batches of extract with 100 of my remaining pods, and slowing simmering down.

with my patented "triple filter" technique using coffee filters it is pretty dark and strong.

but i've got to take a break, i didn't sleep at all last night and i scratched so much my skin is sore in places,

Nice.
I'm thinking
of doing that with
my remaining stems and grind
for future use.
My last stem resin
was pretty weak,
I ended up tossing it.

Day 5!
I'd kill for 5 subs.

[Raz]

you have balls of solid titanium kyuss-
if anyone can do this you can

wishing you endlesss strength
and some sorta peace

you rock surpreme
Large it up my man..Like i said "grande cojones"...To raz or not..

[kyuss]

Large it up my man..Like i said "grande cojones"...To raz or not..

Alright.I accept.
My Balls are huge
(but my dick is small).
Damn,that bit of sub
make me human yesterday.
I love the fuckers.
And thanks Raz(or not to Raz)

[Venus]

I'm new here but wanted to tell you I was thinking of you. The restless legs are the worst for me, it keeps you from even *trying* to sleep. Sounds like your determined though and as we all know it gets somewhat easier everyday (minus the PAWS, of course)

[kyuss]

I'm new here but wanted to tell you I was thinking of you. The restless legs are the worst for me, it keeps you from even *trying* to sleep. Sounds like your determined though and as we all know it gets somewhat easier everyday (minus the PAWS, of course)

Thanks Venus.
You guys helped as always.

I've been clean of opiates
since last monday.
My last dose was at 12:30 pm.
So,its been almost a week.
This weekend was a breeze
with a lil (1 mg) of sub and xanax.
Today was just a lil kratom and advil.
I feel alright!
I don't want to stop
feeling the bliss of opiates
but sometimes you gotta.
I'll update in a week
after I home test myself
before beginning my job search.
Much love to all who supported!

[ein0606]

good job my man!!!!!!

im glad hell is over for you...

[kyuss]

good job my man!!!!!!

im glad hell is over for you...


carry the news...

kyuss kicked junk
before he reached 45
speed jive
wanna stay alive
and drive a semi.....

[Saint]

That is great news, I'm really happy for you.
You're one strong person. Now on to the good job and some happy days!

[starglazer33]

great news! keep up the good work, great work!

[ein0606]

carry the news...

kyuss kicked junk
before he reached 45
speed jive
wanna stay alive
and drive a semi.....


Well ian thought all night about his suicide
How he wants to kick junk when he IS twenty five
speed jive, dont know what you wanna do
when your twenty five

What a drag too many snags
Now Ive drunk a lot of wine and Im feeling fine
Got to race some cat to bed
Oh is there concrete all around
Or is it in my head
Im a dude kyuss

[Dan Steely]

Awesome Kyuss!
Me too.
I know how hard it was.
So now we are just
A couple of
Working class chippers?


(I really need to work on my poetry.)

[Saint]

Kyuss, how are you doing?

[paperrabbit]

for what it's worth-
I also have a Tony the Tiger bowl.

hope you're keeping it good. Modeling the torture for the rest of us.

(well worth it in the end, right?)

[limitless_euphoria]

I'm not sure whether I posted my $0.02 or not I'm too lazy to look through the whole fucking thread.

But I'm in your shoes and I feel for you; I have to kick I really don't have much of a choice. I got some bupe but IDK I still say it only helps like 20-30%. There will always be the mindfuck of "I want another hit, and I want that shit fucking YESTERDAY," ya know?

Anyway, good luck to all us kickers! We're gonna fucking need it!

BTW kyuss: was the yawn meant as "ho hum a boring thread" or one of your w/d symptoms?

I know I start yawning and snotting like a mo' fo' after like 24-36 hours. Some people do some don't. The gagging, acid reflux and feeling like you're going to prolapse your asshole shitting yourself has to be the worst. Guess immodium is useful. Thank you opiophile. :)

[scikid]

I was able to taper succesfully but my habit wasn't all that bad. I started a thread about it, I'll try to find it. The most major thing for me was a real desire to stop though. I knew i needed to get my shit together for my final year of school. No way in hell was I going to mess that up.

[OnzZznoD]

BTW kyuss: was the yawn meant as "ho hum a boring thread" or one of your w/d symptoms?

I know I start yawning and snotting like a mo' fo' after like 24-36 hours. Some people do some don't.
I don't know 1 person that doesnt get the yawns and sniffles when in withdrawals, if there is indeed someone out there who doesnt get this when in bad withdrawals, their fucken lucky!

[Seedy]

I'm not sure whether I posted my $0.02 or not I'm too lazy to look through the whole fucking thread.

But I'm in your shoes and I feel for you; I have to kick I really don't have much of a choice. I got some bupe but IDK I still say it only helps like 20-30%. There will always be the mindfuck of "I want another hit, and I want that shit fucking YESTERDAY," ya know?

Anyway, good luck to all us kickers! We're gonna fucking need it!

BTW kyuss: was the yawn meant as "ho hum a boring thread" or one of your w/d symptoms?

I know I start yawning and snotting like a mo' fo' after like 24-36 hours. Some people do some don't. The gagging, acid reflux and feeling like you're going to prolapse your asshole shitting yourself has to be the worst. Guess immodium is useful. Thank you opiophile. :)

Man I've never experienced the gagging / axcid reflux thing. Yawns, snot, shit, insomnia, RLS, depression, anxiety is enough for me. Maybe next time though, fuck I've got it coming to me, haven't had a day completely clean since... fuck, I can't remember. I had a run of shit poppy seeds for a week or so back in 06 but they still take the edge off....

Anyway, how goes it Kyuss?

[scikid]

Tapers work best for me

[GoddessofRATs]

This is an old thread. Where is Kyuss by the way, i miss my buddy!!

KYUSS where are ya?????????????

GOR