Method of Ingestion

[insomnolent]

How do you administer your dope? I prefer insuffulation because I hate needles.

[skeletontea]

I insufflate as well. Even if my veins were pronounced enough to shoot with relative ease, I still think the idea of sticking a needle into my own vein might spook me a little, and yet I've performed minor surgery on myself with no problem. I think I just have this thing about my veins. Weird, huh? I can watch an IM shot, or part of my body being sutured, and feel totally relaxed, even have a casual conversation with the doctor or nurse. But whenever somebody puts a needle into a vein I'm nervous, and half the time I look away.

[poppy]

I've never heard of the word 'insuffulation' before and had to google it to find out what it meant. It basically means snorting in case anyone else was wondering. Surely I can't be the only one who has never heard of it? Can I?
Anyway back to the purpose of this poll. I have always used heroin IV, with the collapsed veins, abscesses etc which you would expect a female to suffer from after prolonged IV use of heroin.
If only I'd insuffulated and avoided such problems!! (just joking, its just one of those words that makes me laugh!! I'm dying to say it to someone!)

Regarding the needle thing,I must point out that whilst obviously I enjoy my own injections (most of the time, depending on the old vein situation) I still hate medical staff injecting me, probably as much as you Skeleton. How weird is that? At least if I'm doing it I'm in control and know if I'm hurting myself and can stop if I want to.

Skeleton, please enlighten me as to exactly what minor surgery you've performed on yourself?! I'm intrigued to say the least!!

[insomnolent]

I insufflate as well. Even if my veins were pronounced enough to shoot with relative ease, I still think the idea of sticking a needle into my own vein might spook me a little, and yet I've performed minor surgery on myself with no problem. I think I just have this thing about my veins. Weird, huh? I can watch an IM shot, or part of my body being sutured, and feel totally relaxed, even have a casual conversation with the doctor or nurse. But whenever somebody puts a needle into a vein I'm nervous, and half the time I look away.

Yeah, I'm also curious to hear about that self-performed minor surgery, haha. I can actually watch a nurse or doctor administer a shot, but I still hate needles. On top of that, everytime I get blood drawn or a shot the doctors always have trouble finding a vein which probably deterred me the most from using a needle. I'm really considering kicking the habit because of the risks involved with the law and because my nose is starting to get seriously fucked from all of the stuff I've put up it. Cold air makes my nose burn and my eyes water and I also wake up with nosebleeds and suffer from several sinus infections each year. But man, I really like getting high -- it seems like after I'm sober for several days, my thinking changes and I'm back on the corner copping some dope, or finding some pills.

[malefiacrum]

...only been able to get it twice....and smoked it both times,

[skeletontea]

I still hate medical staff injecting me, probably as much as you Skeleton. How weird is that? At least if I'm doing it I'm in control and know if I'm hurting myself and can stop if I want to.That's not terribly odd, I understand where you're coming from with that concept. I've actually gotten a lot better about my discomfort around needles. When I was around 10 years old and had to get an inoculation, I tried to flee the doctor's office. It took two doctors, and four nurses to hold me down while I was given the injection.

I was so hopped up on adrenaline, and filled with panic, that not only was I (a boy who weighed under 60 pounds) fighting off a group of people who collectively weighed nearly 15 times my weight, I was too preoccupied to notice when they'd given me the injection. At one point everyone let go of me, and stepped back. I asked if they'd done it. Everyone except me laughed.

Skeleton, please enlighten me as to exactly what minor surgery you've performed on yourself?! I'm intrigued to say the least!!When I was around 7 or 8, I removed some fairly deep infected tissue from my left hand (the infection did not return). Around the age of 16 I shaved off a couple moles (that is to say I deliberately cut them off the surface of my skin, not that I'd accidentally cut them off while shaving).

When I was 19 I wanted to get a central tongue piercing, but my lower lingual frenulum was in the way. Surgery to remove this piece of connective tissue would have cost around $600 (which was not worth it.) After I'd been up for 4 days on amphetamines (you can already tell where this story is going) I decided the most economically sound solution was to do the procedure myself. (I'm sure many of you want to call me a moron at this point. Feel free to do so.)

Were I to remove the entire frenulum, I would need to tie sutures in my own mouth, without anesthetic (or prior experience.) This option was right out (of course). However, I could excise the anterior portion (which was fused) with relative ease. The procedure was quick, and not very painful (as the tissue had few nerve endings. It's also not terribly vascular, so there was little blood.) The end result looks very natural (which isn't terribly important, being on the underside of my tongue.) Unfortunately, six years later I have yet to get the piercing. When I'm working, I can't afford to not be able to talk clearly while the swelling goes down. And when I'm not working, I just can't afford it.:p

[Paregoric Kid]

you should add plugging as an option for the poll too. I've known many needlephobics whose preffered method of ingestion was rectal because it is said to be as strong as an IM injection, which would be better than snorting it of course.

[bogumil]

Insuffulated here. Sometimes smoking.

[bogumil]

lower lingual frenulum was in the way. Surgery to remove this piece of connective tissue would have cost around $600 (which was not worth it.)

Is this the little "rope of tissue" that holds the tongue down, so it cant lay back and fall in the throat? You know, my little bro had that hing too short. The day he showed it to the doctor, the doc took a scissors, a spray and said:"Ahh, we can do it right here, its a thing of 30 seconds". IF it is the same as yours, then the doctors, who take 600$ for that are crooks.

[skeletontea]

Is this the little "rope of tissue" that holds the tongue down, so it cant lay back and fall in the throat? You know, my little bro had that hing too short. The day he showed it to the doctor, the doc took a scissors, a spray and said:"Ahh, we can do it right here, its a thing of 30 seconds". IF it is the same as yours, then the doctors, who take 600$ for that are crooks.
Yes, it is that "rope of tissue." I snipped it, then used a scalpel to remove the two resulting flaps, following the same curvature of the original anterior portion of the lingual frenulum. It essentially looks the same, just further back. And in response to the second part of your post: I live in America, all our surgeons are crooks.

Edit: Sorry, we really got off topic here.

[poppy]

PK without getting terribly graphic here, what exactly is the method for administering gear rectally?
Thanks. Laters Poppy.

PS

[Paregoric Kid]

taking a syringe without a needle on the end and shooting the shot up your ass. apparently it's supposed to be better than snorting it.

IV heroin is alright but it only gets me high for like a half hour from 2 bags, so I don't do it all that much. maybe we just get shitty dope here, I don't know. it's really expensive too compared to other stuff I can find. I prefer longer acting opioids. if I had good veins and access to pure amps I'd do it much more often.

[insaneike]

Sniff sniff FTW! I can't even think of another IV outside a docs care! Last time was meth mainlined, all in all heart stopped for a bit and now ahte needles. That and i know I would sjut lvoe it wayyyyy too much ;p

Or if it's the kind of podwer that melts down to tar smoke that shit usualy. I dunno i like smoking too but snorting seemsmore worth the $ comapred to smoke. I know IV is the ONLY way tog et your $ worth with smack.

later

[poppy]

taking a syringe without a needle on the end and shooting the shot up your ass. apparently it's supposed to be better than snorting it.

IV heroin is alright but it only gets me high for like a half hour from 2 bags, so I don't do it all that much. maybe we just get shitty dope here, I don't know. it's really expensive too compared to other stuff I can find. I prefer longer acting opioids. if I had good veins and access to pure amps I'd do it much more often.
PK I take it u haven't tried this method? Sadly my veins are in such a state I'm seriously contemplating this!! I never thought I'd see the day! Anyway wouldn't it sort of trickle back out?
Has anyone actually tried this? If so please reply!!

[dissident]

any injectable meds can be done rectally... personally ive done liquid valium & morphine this way because valium hurts IM, and the bottle says it shouldnt be done except IV. also maybe it would be safer to do it rectally if you dont necessarily know exactly what is in the shot... ?:o

[shaunclo]

PK I take it u haven't tried this method? Sadly my veins are in such a state I'm seriously contemplating this!! I never thought I'd see the day! Anyway wouldn't it sort of trickle back out?
Has anyone actually tried this? If so please reply!!

Poppy, browning is a great way to get a lot out of your meds or gear. It doesnt trickle (as you say) if you stick it up there far enough. Just dont do any olympic style excercies right after and you should be fine. If your veins are too fucked up to IV, then just do the shot the way you normally would and instead of shooting it into your vein, you shoot it into the ol brown eye instead. Hmmmmm yummy!!

[shaunclo]

IV heroin is alright but it only gets me high for like a half hour from 2 bags, so I don't do it all that much. maybe we just get shitty dope here, I don't know. it's really expensive too compared to other stuff I can find. I prefer longer acting opioids. if I had good veins and access to pure amps I'd do it much more often.

Hey PK, you only stay stoned for a 1/2 hour?? thats strange, I have never heard of such a short period of staying high. Maybe it is your dope.

[poppy]

Poppy, browning is a great way to get a lot out of your meds or gear. It doesnt trickle (as you say) if you stick it up there far enough. Just dont do any olympic style excercies right after and you should be fine. If your veins are too fucked up to IV, then just do the shot the way you normally would and instead of shooting it into your vein, you shoot it into the ol brown eye instead. Hmmmmm yummy!!
Thanks Shaunclo I shall definitely be trying this as soon as I've done the necessary (to keep one's meth script going) clean test on Monday.
Laters

[Paregoric Kid]

sometimes if it's good I'll be high for maybe 45 minutes and then I can still feel it but the effects are highly reduced and wear off in about 2 hours after taking it. won't start to feel sick for about 4. then again maybe I got fentanyl a few times, doubt it though.

[Peripat]

I've never had a problem with needles; I had a kid brother who was diabetic so they were around my house growing up. I injected IM until I learnt how to give myself an IV shot... aaaah pure heaven...

Skeleton, funny you should mention minor surgery - I actually pierced my own tongue (using a piece of equipment called a catheter needle) four years ago. I had very few problems speaking, and in fact what little swelling I had was completely gone in 36 hours.

People wince when I tell them that story, though. :)

[shaunclo]

sometimes if it's good I'll be high for maybe 45 minutes and then I can still feel it but the effects are highly reduced and wear off in about 2 hours after taking it. won't start to feel sick for about 4. then again maybe I got fentanyl a few times, doubt it though.

Hey PK, maybe this is because of your love for methadone. After a while, the methadone will fill up your receptors and will keep you from getting high on anything else. Or atleast keep you from getting as high as you normally would.

[Kallie]

Shaunclo, how long's the "Constantly Constipated" been under your name? I just noticed and it gave me a great chuckle!:D

[shaunclo]

shiiiit, thats been on there since my first donation, I wanted to put something down there that I knew everyone could relate to. It had me cracking up when I first thought of it. Even on suboxone, I have somewhat of a constipation problem. But nothing as bad as when I was smoking and shooting everday.

[opos]

I have a deathly fear of HOLLOW needles.. I given many tattoos on others and myself jabbed a 6 inch sewing needle threw my arm on a dare. when I was younger (12-13) I ritualisticaly cut myself to see blood run... yup but still can't stand the thought of a needle in my vien, I have no idea why and I feel completely stupid for having the phobia but somethings are maybe for the best.

[poppy]

I've just been catching up with this site as I haven't been on line much lately. Anyway I just thought I'd say that I'm surprised about the results of the poll regarding methods of ingestion of heroin. Not the amount of people who inject heroin, as I expected that to be the highest group, but the amount of people who 'insufflate' (I love that word). Basically I expected there to be far more people smoking their gear than sniffing it.

[ValiumSoup]

So let me get this straight.....PPL are now starting to put dope and pills like xanax into thier asses?
Ummm Why, Get you higher or something? Think id rather be a little less high then jam shit in my ass thanks....

Although if it was like twicw as high I might have to buy a turkey baster :D

[ValiumSoup]

you should add plugging as an option for the poll too. I've known many needlephobics whose preffered method of ingestion was rectal because it is said to be as strong as an IM injection, which would be better than snorting it of course.

Off topic I know, But I still have that T shirt...now thats old school lol.

VS

[poppy]

I've now tried the 'browning method' admittedly it was after a hit had congealed and it was either that or throw it away. Anyway I was extremely pissed off at having missed out on my hit (stupid over abused girl veins!!!!) and sulking to say the least as my boyfriend gauched the afternoon away. Then miracle of miracles I realized that I'd just had a little gauche. So it definitely does work. Its just not the same I love that instant warm feeling and the 'taste' u get after a nice hit. But in the absence of veins and a distinct lack of smoking on foil technique it seems a good alternative.

[SomniGod]

well, just look at the facts... u lose much less than insufflating... as for smoking & bangin....well...no contest...but still better than snortin.


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[THEPAINTER1960]

I have a deathly fear of HOLLOW needles.. I given many tattoos on others and myself jabbed a 6 inch sewing needle threw my arm on a dare. when I was younger (12-13) I ritualisticaly cut myself to see blood run... yup but still can't stand the thought of a needle in my vien, I have no idea why and I feel completely stupid for having the phobia but somethings are maybe for the best.
I dont know i dont think i could of done it any other way but intro-veneous. [ hows that for my spelling] I have smoked it eat it and snorted it. I preferred the direct connection. i wished i had that fear of needles that everyone is talking about.

[opos]

I dont know i dont think i could of done it any other way but intro-veneous. [ hows that for my spelling] I have smoked it eat it and snorted it. I preferred the direct connection. i wished i had that fear of needles that everyone is talking about.
Pfft yeah but how long will the phobia win out?

[ELEGY]

I prefer to IV Herion when i get the luxury of having it.:(

[Curio]

We were actually taught as medics that rectal administration of most all medications is second only to IV in response time....and really should be a CLOSE second, for most every medication...

It's just that it's a pain in the ...

never mind :)

[Dr.Poop]

Put it in the poopchute.


I'm drunk.

[opos]

I never heard of people doing this but what about sublingual absorption? Would it work?

[shaunclo]

I never heard of people doing this but what about sublingual absorption? Would it work?

sure it would, what about charlie in Lost, he rubbed it on his gums. I think you would lose a lot though, and I dont think it would work very well with black-tar. With powder H though, it would work, but as I said, you would probably be wasting a lot.

[jackster]

I've always ever IV'd my dope.. I don't think I'd have it any other way.

[Zonker]

Really, other than shooting it, I rather like tossing some into a beer.. This is what I usually do when I visit the folks for any extended period of time.

[poppy]

As I've said before my method of choice in terms of administering 'h' is to IV it, but due to a severe lack of veins (probably due to a combination of over abuse and the fact that on the whole women have crap veins) I've ended up trying the rectal thing(embarassing? But true, I never thought I'd see the day, but I did and here I am...........)Anyway I was surprised to discover that it actually works!!
Zonker, I'm no chemist but I was lead to believe that if u take gear orally then your body expels it quicker than it can absorb it?(I'm sure one of the more 'chemically aware Opiophiles will be able to enlighten us on this topic???

[exitwound]

Lately I've tried crushing my 60mg Endo MS Contins, dissolving in water, stirring until the waxy "gel" is as dissolved as it seems likely to get, and sucking up the solution into a needle-less saline push syringe and using that to get the solution up the ol' back door. It does work for fast-acting relief, absorbs even faster than my Lortabs on an empty stomach....but I'm not sure it's any more efficient than oral and due to the anti-abuse formulation of these Endo "Morphine SA" (Sustained Action) tablets it may actually be significantly less because the "gel" is designed to dissolve in stomach acids/intestinal enzymes -- not water =/

Not to mention, meh'arse feels a bit sore after repeated posterior administrations so it doesn't seem like something that I could go doing on a regular basis -- and when you're a chronic pain sufferer, that's important. Because my condition isn't going anywhere :(

[vanilla_mlkshake2007]

[quote=exitwound]Lately I've tried crushing my 60mg Endo MS Contins, dissolving in water, stirring until the waxy "gel" is as dissolved as it seems likely to get, and sucking up the solution into a needle-less saline push syringe and using that to get the solution up the ol' back door. It does work for fast-acting relief, absorbs even faster than my Lortabs on an empty stomach....but I'm not sure it's any more efficient than oral and due to the anti-abuse formulation of these Endo "Morphine SA" (Sustained Action) tablets it may actually be significantly less because the "gel" is designed to dissolve in stomach acids/intestinal enzymes -- not water =/

IV IS DEFINATELY #1 for me.

[doctor diesel]

So, good people.
SWIM, for the first time, has some powdered H. There is no way on Earth he will bang it, and smoking is out of the question because of the people in his house. It seems the most efficient thing for him to do is push some up the ol' colon rose.
Now then, how much though? And does he first mix in a little water to make a paste, or what? Don't forget, SWIM is a virgin in this respect. But not totally opiate naive; to put it in context 120mg codeine does virtually nothing for him, so there's some tolerance there obviously. And as he only takes PT once every two or three weeks, there's probably no tolerance to that.
The powder in question seems pretty pure, but there's only half a gram of it. What to do then PPL? SWIM is ever so keen to have a first taste!

Doc

[Coddfish]

Doctors shouldn't worry about banging. Swim shot his first time (did pot and alcoholonly a few times before that) and never looked back. Had his buddy do it the first two times, then took it up himself, no problem. I think some have a natural predilection for such things. Dammit.

[Brap]

i prefer snorting. smoking is a waste and shooting up, well, i hate needles. i still cry when i get blood drawn. i know, make fun of me if you wish :):):)

[exitwound]

I've had to chill out on the "brown syringe" opium tea enemas for a while since my poor sphincter is a tad sore and I've had some small traces of blood in my stool....plus my constipation which is normally well under control has gone through the roof. I practically shat a freight train this morning, LOL!

I'm taking small doses of oral tea mixed in juice but mostly I'm just going to back off, tend my poppy seedlings in the gardens, and try to produce some other opium products for a while as I refine my other sources of medication. Speaking of which....BBIAF :-)

[madnesscult]

The first time I did heroin, I insuffulated it (heh) and have done IV since, although I really, REALLY hate doing my own shot...I couldn't for the longest time, I don't know what I was doing, but it would never work. I like it so much more when someone else hits me because then I can close my eyes and not get all jittery from anticipation and just let it come. Funny thing is, I have no problem with hitting other people. My boyfriend is missing about 1/3 of his left arm (from birth, not drug-related) so he shot in his feet until those disappeared and now I just hit him.

[blackdog]

The first time I did heroin, I insuffulated it (heh) and have done IV since, although I really, REALLY hate doing my own shot...I couldn't for the longest time, I don't know what I was doing, but it would never work. I like it so much more when someone else hits me because then I can close my eyes and not get all jittery from anticipation and just let it come. Funny thing is, I have no problem with hitting other people. My boyfriend is missing about 1/3 of his left arm (from birth, not drug-related) so he shot in his feet until those disappeared and now I just hit him.

sorry really!? but uh.....well i uh.....umm you say he shot in his feet until they um disappeared??
where the hell did they go then?????and on top of it all you hit him? and he's your boyfriend?
lol just foolin ya

da/dawgg:rolleyes:

[madnesscult]

sorry really!? but uh.....well i uh.....umm you say he shot in his feet until they um disappeared??
where the hell did they go then?????and on top of it all you hit him? and he's your boyfriend?
lol just foolin ya

da/dawgg:rolleyes:

Hah. Yeah. They just seemed to vanish one day...it's really odd. You wouldn't think someone's feet would just go running off by themselves!

[superman]

WOW, i had no idea that the board is predominantly pokers! i feel @ home :)

After I'd been up for 4 days on amphetamines
Gotta love amphetamine confidence!

"then again maybe I got fentanyl a few times, doubt it though."
i doubt it too, you would notice the difference. H is nicer

H taken orally is mostly metabolized into morphine before it enters the bloodstream

[hitnrun]

How do you break the stuff up enough to snort it? It's pretty sticky and doesn't wanna powder up...my friend tried to do it the other day and told me he practically wasted it all. :(

[doctor diesel]

I'd like to know why, according to the poll results, people have a downer on smoking the stuff - I thought it was much more popular than that.

Is snorting it really that much better? And how do you insufflate anyway? Do you mix powder with water and pump a vapour up your hooter using some sort of nebuliser, or what?

What? What?

I need to know.

Doc Diesel

[Ragdoll]

"Insuffulating".
I learned a new word today, mommy.

The idea of putting things up my nose, or shoving things up my ass is not at all appealing to me.
I am not at all afraid of needles, meself; on the contrary, I rather love needles. For example, getting my blood drawn really gets me off. I feel cleansed and pure afterward. I tend to fall instantly and madly in love with the phlebotomist. I have to restrain myself from asking for her phone number, or following her home after work to learn where she lives, then driving by her house late at night.
Needles are so honest; they are right to the point, no BS involved. Shiny, and they have a history that fascinates.

[Black_Daze]

I started out snorting my h because I knew if I started on the needle, I would love it. Then I got some tar which I was of course unable to snort, so I decided to bang it. Of course I had been right to assume I would love it, and I was incapable of going back to putting it up my nose (which I rather disliked anyway). Then I started experimenting with banging outher things and discovered my love for coke, which I had hated when I was snorting it. The weird thing is I usually like my hubby to do my shots of h for me just because of the sensuality of it, but I prefer to bang my own coke.
And in reference to girl veins as mentioned earlier, yeah they fucking suck. I think mine leak sometimes because it's like I get half my shot and miss the other half. Does anyone else ever have this problem?

[zombiewoof23]

I've only snorted. Due to the cost, buzz factor and fucking up my nasal passages quickly, IV is the only way I'll go if I decide to turn to lady H again.

[doctor diesel]

So what's the downer on smoking, people?

Somebody tell me, for crissake.

[Canis aureus]

Smoking... why not vaporizing? If from tin foil it's vaporizing. Add little caffeine so that it vapors in lower temperature and then the bioavailability rises a little. I have injected, vaporized and if I remember it right also snorted (hell lot a tima ago tho). Mostly I injected, because of the rush... Oh yeah, I have snorted together with amphetamine...

[doctor diesel]

How do you add caffeine? Where do you get pure caffeine from?

Hunh?

[nick]

Caffeine added to H bullks it out and seems to make it smoking easier.

I've noticed(apart from Cubert) smoking ain't big in the US,which with tar,is suprising.Lot of chasing in the UK and I think chasing is much better than snorting.

[SomniGod]

Smoking is very popular in the dirty south....TEXAS.....it's all tar there (unless they cut it with sominex to snort...it is then not smokeable or shootable). Bangin is harder and harder with less places to get rigs.

if it was possible to find with ease in South Florida, maybe its better NOT being easy to find!!!!



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