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paroxetina
02-01-2008, 09:32 AM
I got my hands on two 10mg Opana ER from a friend. For what it's worth, she says they do not help with her pain as well as dilaudid. I took one pill the other night and felt nothing. My tolerance is fairly high - I need to take about 60mg of oxycodone to feel anything at all.

So the one pill I took orally did nothing. After reading up on TimeRx I decided to experiment with the other pill. From what I've read, letting it sit in warm water for 12 hours should theoretically allow most of the medication to be released. So I heated up a small amount of water and put it in a mug, then added the pill. Then I set the mug in a bath of warm water in a large pyrex measuring cup and periodically re-heated the bath to keep the temperature warm. I started this process around 4pm yesterday.

This morning when I woke up, I went and checked on it. The pill itself had expanded many times in size, and looked like a sponge, covered in small holes. When I removed what was left of the pill from the water, I touched it and found it had an extremely gelly consistency. The remaining water was slightly cloudy. I discarded the remaning pill.

I drank the water, and expecting it to be bitter, chased it with some juice. Surprisingly it didn't taste particularly bitter at all, so I was worried that my experiment may not have worked.

Yet here I am, about 30 minutes later, and I am definitely feeling a buzz. Given that when I swallowed the other pill I felt nothing, I think this is a good sign. 10mg is a pretty low dose - I think the ERs come in 10, 20, and 40s and the IRs in 5 and 10 (anyone know if they go higher?).

I'm hoping to get my hands on some more of these soon and experiment with a higher dose. This method of turning ER to IR worked well, although it requires patience and persistence, with waiting and reheating the water.

I-Nod
02-01-2008, 09:45 AM
Someone gave me a 5mg one and I didn't feel anything remarkable. It brought me out of WD, but not much more than that.

I would have ate the "sponge" too, personally. I mean, it wouldn't hurt. And who knows, there might have been a micro gram or two left in there.

I've heard on here before that Oxymorphone (opana's) are something like 8x stronger than OC's (as far as pain relief goes, not necessarily euphoria)... not positive about the numbers but a quick search would find the info you need. Sorry, I'd normally search it for ya... but the sites all messed up.

paroxetina
02-01-2008, 09:48 AM
I would have ate the "sponge" too, personally. I mean, it wouldn't hurt. And who knows, there might have been a gram or two left in there.


I almost did, but the consistency really grossed me out. Next time though I definitely will, gross or not.

reddragon3668
02-01-2008, 10:21 AM
Next time you get a small amount like that, just crush the sucker and snort it. You may have bypassed the time release by what you did, but you still only got about 10-20% due to its low bioavailability. I think snorting increases it to about 40% or more. I do it from time to time and it definitely works better. I take 40mg 3x's a day. It works great for pain, and while it doesn't create any euphoria, when snorted, it gives you the same speediness that you get from Oxy. Of course, YMMV.

One other thing you can do with low doses like that is take it with a shot or two of alcohol. I wouldn't recommend this with higher doses, but if you have a moderate tolerance, 10mg with a shot or two would work fairly well.

Be safe.


I almost did, but the consistency really grossed me out. Next time though I definitely will, gross or not.

paroxetina
02-01-2008, 10:45 AM
My understanding was that you can't crush or snort the ERs because of how it gels up - it would just get stuck in your nose once it hits the liquid. The first pill I took I chewed, and it instantly gelled.

OxyDust
02-01-2008, 11:15 AM
I have heard that a shot of the IR version of opana blows any other opiate related pharm out of the water!

reddragon3668
02-01-2008, 11:28 AM
Yeah, it will gell up, but not so bad in the nose. I get some pretty nasty yellow boogers, but most of it absorbs. I don't even take the coating off the 40mg tablets. On the 5's or 10's however, you really need to take a moist rag and wipe off the coating. Make sure the rag doesn't have too much water in it though, of the whole pill will just gel up on you.

To me, there really is a whole lot of difference between snorting them and taking them orally. While it obiously doesn't last the whole twelve hours when you do it that way, it does last much longer than most any other med I've taken. When taken orally, however, its the only thing time realease medicine I've ever taken that last the whole 12 hours, except the fentanyl patch.


My understanding was that you can't crush or snort the ERs because of how it gels up - it would just get stuck in your nose once it hits the liquid. The first pill I took I chewed, and it instantly gelled.

OxyContinuously
02-01-2008, 11:46 AM
I got my hands on two 10mg Opana ER from a friend. For what it's worth, she says they do not help with her pain as well as dilaudid. I took one pill the other night and felt nothing. My tolerance is fairly high - I need to take about 60mg of oxycodone to feel anything at all.

So the one pill I took orally did nothing. After reading up on TimeRx I decided to experiment with the other pill. From what I've read, letting it sit in warm water for 12 hours should theoretically allow most of the medication to be released. So I heated up a small amount of water and put it in a mug, then added the pill. Then I set the mug in a bath of warm water in a large pyrex measuring cup and periodically re-heated the bath to keep the temperature warm. I started this process around 4pm yesterday.

This morning when I woke up, I went and checked on it. The pill itself had expanded many times in size, and looked like a sponge, covered in small holes. When I removed what was left of the pill from the water, I touched it and found it had an extremely gelly consistency. The remaining water was slightly cloudy. I discarded the remaning pill.

I drank the water, and expecting it to be bitter, chased it with some juice. Surprisingly it didn't taste particularly bitter at all, so I was worried that my experiment may not have worked.

Yet here I am, about 30 minutes later, and I am definitely feeling a buzz. Given that when I swallowed the other pill I felt nothing, I think this is a good sign. 10mg is a pretty low dose - I think the ERs come in 10, 20, and 40s and the IRs in 5 and 10 (anyone know if they go higher?).

I'm hoping to get my hands on some more of these soon and experiment with a higher dose. This method of turning ER to IR worked well, although it requires patience and persistence, with waiting and reheating the water.


u wasted a good portion by throwing out the "spongy" shit in the glass...

next time save some time and just crush thoroughly to powder, put this powder into a glass of warm water, and stir occasionally for ten minutes or so...then drink it..

leaving it in there for hours and hours does shit except waste your time.

OR

even tho opana's time release is a bitch, crush like i wassaying, and rail that...you'll feel it...u say u take 60 of oxy to feel it so 10 mg of snorted opana should be around 50 of oxy, give or take...try that next time


peace

savethedogs
02-01-2008, 06:19 PM
I had 12 Opana ER 20mg a few days ago... like everyone has been saying, orally it's a total waste. IMO the best way to use them is to take a sharp knife and gently peel off the coating, make sure you do not cut into the pill, then crush it up and snort it. It does gel up, you will find yourself sniffing back chunks of goo. It is helpful to not sniff the goo so far back that it goes into your throat, but rather sniff it so that it goes farther up your nasal cavity and lands on your mucus membranes, this really helps absorption from my personal experience. If you keep doing this until you no longer feel like you have any gel up there, you'll notice that any residual goo that drips down your throat has no taste. I am convinced that this is because most of the bitter active ingredients have been absorbed through the nasal cavity. What lends more credence to this is that the goo from a freshly snorted opana will taste very bitter in your throat.

Opana is good, but I have never been able to get a really good, deep nod from it. IMO Oxys are better if you're looking for pleasure.