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bored in sofl
01-31-2008, 10:14 PM
this is in the chicago suntimes

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mariotti/770631,mariotti020108.article

EleusisII
01-31-2008, 10:26 PM
``It saddens me. I do want to call him, but down inside, I really don't want to call him. He wasn't in my life for 10 or 11 years. After a while, it's like maybe he has to find his own way. He has been heavily into drugs, and that is what took apart our relationship. In my mind, he has shown me what NOT to do with my children.''

What a dick... Drugs or not, that's his father we're talking about. Dude sure sounds high and mighty, for someone who had domestic violence charges filed against him.

bored in sofl
01-31-2008, 10:28 PM
What a dick... Drugs or not, that's his father we're talking about. Dude sure sounds high and mighty, for someone who had domestic violence charges filed against him.
I hate how people act like that. everybody has skeletons i there closet

EleusisII
01-31-2008, 10:33 PM
It's not just about him feeling pissed off at daddy. The guy's got kids. they have a right to see their grandfather too. Or at least try to.
Whatever happened to forget and forgive?

The_Highwayman
02-01-2008, 05:57 AM
Sad and except for the son playing the Super Bowl this weekend an all too common situation................

phrozen
02-01-2008, 08:49 AM
Thanks for the link.

Xavier
02-01-2008, 09:04 AM
like the highway man said this is a sad but common occurence across big cities of this country. I can honestly see where the mans son is coming fom. He has a family a successful football career and here is his father an old school heroin addict who has continually been in an out of prison. but as a person who basically grew up without a father due to the same circumstances I really feel for the son. When the father gets out I think he should try methadone because he obviously can't stay off the dope and he really needs to get his life straight if he does wanna meet his grandchildren and a play a part in their lives. anyways i do hope they can reconcile.

upstate_007
02-01-2008, 09:35 AM
I can kinda see what you guys mean about him coming off as high and mighty. But, having grown up in a house with an addict parent I can understand his anger. Since he does not use drugs (not that is publicly known of) he does not have an understanding of what it is all about. And the years of having a father that is not around because he is always locked up or strung out is a shitty situation to deal with. I went through a lot of that anger and still do to this day.

My mother has not been there for any of the big events in my life because of her problems and it just plain and simple fucking hurts sometimes. After giving her the benefit of the doubt and trying to be understanding for years and years you can't help but to give up at some point. It's easier to expect nothing and get nothing than to expect them to be a parent and get nothing from them.

Just trying to give a different perspective here. I know that we are all the Father in that story in some way or another, but just because he is a heroin addict I don't feel he automatically deserves our sympathy. The football player in the story has had to live much of his life without a father. Doesn't that deserve some sympathy?

mollywopped
02-01-2008, 08:19 PM
I think it's pretty fucked up that this guy hasn't seen his son for 10 years and then on the eve of the biggest day of his life all of a sudden pops up and puts this shit into his head when he needs to be concentrating on football and his team.

And high and mighty? Grandkids have a right to see their grandfather? The guy abandoned his son, so fuck him. Why should the son go running back to a guy who probably is just going to leave again and rip his heart out, I mean why not, that is what he's done all his life. And then why take your own kids? Then they get attatched and all excited thinking they are going to have this great grandpa and then one day, boom, gone again and now there are a few more kids that got their heart ripped out.

Fuck that guy. If I was his son I would just ignore him like he had done me for the last decade. I bet he would just try to work him for money any way.

turdkenedy
02-02-2008, 10:40 AM
I hate how people act like that. everybody has skeletons i there closet

i have to disagree.

obviously you are biased because you are heroin users yourselves. but if you see it from the outside, the perspective of the son whose father was absent or acted like a complete scum bag for their childs entire life you would see how shitty of a person that the heroin addict father can be.

i have a friend whose father is an ongoing drug addict and his family life is extremely fucked up. its really sad, because his dad has done absolutely zero parenting, sets a horrible example, and in general is just a prick and my friend is obviously having trouble and is receiving no help because nothing is expected of him, and no one cares enough.

kyuss
02-02-2008, 10:56 AM
Drugs become our mother
and often our children
have to be the parent.
It's not always like that
but sad when it is.

pharmboy
02-02-2008, 12:32 PM
And who realy took Daddy away from his son? Was it heroin

or was it a mis-guided society that wants to criminalize a

personal habit / choice. Ok maybe not a GOOD habit or choice

but MAYBE it isn't any of thier buisness !.

kizzy
02-07-2008, 07:00 PM
And who realy took Daddy away from his son? Was it heroin

or was it a mis-guided society that wants to criminalize a

personal habit / choice. Ok maybe not a GOOD habit or choice

but MAYBE it isn't any of thier buisness !.

I can see your point, but his personal habit was sustained through "robbery" and "retail theft".