anyone lied about a car accident to get pills?

[eternalsunshine]

What is the best way to go about this? I would like to go to my primary care. thanks!

[EleusisII]

Try to research/google "whiplash syndrome"

And it's you're lucky day, since it's not something an xray or CAT scan can confirm.
That's what my doc told me, when I had an accident a couple of years back. Unfortunately I wasn't into opies back then, so I didn't really try to milk it.


Good luck!

[limitless_euphoria]

What is the best way to go about this? I would like to go to my primary care. thanks!

Hmmm, my only question in this day and age—would they expect to see some sort of documentation? Something says as long as you haven't hit up your doc for pills too often or for much else you should be okay. Sounds like if you want to claim whiplash you might want to specify you were in a rear-end crash. Keep it simple but have the details worked out in your mind ahead of time.

I've never tried it before so IDK about how successful you will or won't be. My other concern is if they're going to want to run a bunch of unnecessary tests on you or if the doctor might ask why you did not go to the ER. Not my favorite place in the world (others who have read my previous threads know this) but it might add additional credibility insofar as it was a serious accident.

Anyone else want to chime in on if it would be a waste of time to go to the ER first to have discharge papers to bring to the doc's? I'm thinking if you were to go straight to the doctor and not the ER first they might suspect it couldn't have been THAT serious of a crash, you know?

As always, just my $0.02.

[Levity]

What is the best way to go about this? I would like to go to my primary care. thanks!

Have a police report saving you were rear-ended, best if you were at a dead stop.
Then google whiplash.
Fake the injury.

Enjoy.

[EleusisII]

Anyone else want to chime in on if it would be a waste of time to go to the ER first to have discharge papers to bring to the doc's? I'm thinking if you were to go straight to the doctor and not the ER first they might suspect it couldn't have been THAT serious of a crash, you know?

A good point. But it's mute in this case good sir!
Discharge papers are always good to have, of course. But the thing about whiplash injuries is, that it usually doesn't manifest itself until the day after, or even several days after. It doesn't need any bleeding or obvious trauma. Just a sudden, violent head jerking causes whiplash.

That said, some doctors don't "believe" in whiplash, though I'm sure they're a minority.

Don't appear to knowledgeble about it. Just list some of the symptoms, and have your doctor have a "Eureka!" moment.

And regarding tests, Whiplash can't be spotted on a xray or MRI, which is what makes it birlliant for drugseekers. But you bet your sweet ass, that if you're going to be put on any serious narcotic, anything stronger than percocets, basically, that they'll throw a bunch of tests at you first, even if it might not show anything.
If you have the patience, the insurance and the acting skills though, it might just be worth it!

[Indy]

Interestingly enough, when i had an actual car accident (slid off the road into a really steep ditch and slammed into a tree backwards and sideways) i went to the ER and said that i had been throwing up and my head hurt really really bad. There was no sign of actual damage, and they didn't check for a report or anything, and gave me a shot of dilaudid and like 8 vicodin for the next day. Just took my word for it.

[SpecialGuy69]

i have to say, it sounds like you guys are getting desperate. Get on methadone if you want strong narcotics every day!

[EleusisII]

Hey, we're junkies... We like scheming... And it's a shame to waste a perfectly good caraccident, no?

[upstate_007]

I don't think you will get a big score by doing it. Muscle relaxers and shit like that instead of opiates are always a possibility.

One thing to get around the police report and all that is to say you were a passenger and it happened a day or two ago. Not sure if that would backfire though because of insurance liability though. Anyone know if that would work?

[Levity]

Hey, we're junkies... We like scheming... And it's a shame to waste a perfectly good caraccident, no?

Sometimes chasing the high is just as important as the high.

[devilsdrug]

nah nobodies ever done that

[eternalsunshine]

this was my plan
say I was in a friends car and she was backing out and someone slammed into my side. I thought I wasd okay but today I am real sore and my arm and dsside hurt and I want to get it checked out. I am going to say neither drivers had insurance. When I was in an actual car accident I didnt feel it till the next day and I didnt go to the er. This is before my pill days :)

[eternalsunshine]

jusy tried to make an appointment and they wont except insurance for an accident so I need to pay myself. sucks!!!!

[OxiContinKing]

If you have a good primary doctor, I would just go there. When I had my car accident, I went to the ER later that night, and they just shrugged me off. I went to my primary doctor the next morning, told her that I was in an accident, and she handled the rest from there. She didnt ask for any paperwork or anything. Of course I was in pain, but you know you have to overexagerate a little. She wrote me a recommendation for an MRI, a script for 60 7.5's, and out the door I was. 20 minutes later, I had the cold water extraction going :)

[Uncle Wiggly]

jusy tried to make an appointment and they wont except insurance for an accident so I need to pay myself. sucks!!!!

When you're in an automobile accident your health insurance will want to use C.O.B. Coordination Of Benefits. This means that since it happened in a car the automobile insurance pays first and your health insurance pays what's left. When it happened to me I was very surprised to find that my automobile insurance even paid 80% of my gross wage while I was off work. You actually make more money than when working at a job where taxes are taken out of your pay. Now, mind you, I was involved in a major accident with police, ambulances etc...

You can't get in too much trouble for trying to fake-out your doc by telling him/her you were in an automobile accident. But if you bring your insurance companies in on it you'll be committing insurance fraud and that's big time trouble.

The doc will send a report to your health-care provider and they will see it was an automobile accident. It will be in his report. That's when your health insurance will contact you inquiring about your car insurance. If they think anything *funny* is going on they will investigate. It's a big risk for a few pills.

PAX

[mollywopped]

I really doubt a doctor is going to ask to see a police report or anything like that. That is pretty much calling you a liar and unless you have been trying to work him for pills for a long time, he isn't going to ask.

But, even if he did, it takes time to get all that stuff. You can't even get the police report for a week or so after the incident. And you know damn well an insurance company is going to take forever. SO if you go in today and say the accident happened yesterday or the day before, even if it really did happen, you wouldn't have any paperwork yet.

Besides, just say you were the passenger, so you have no reason to get involved in any of the police/insurance stuff. Just go to the doc and treat it like any other injury. If you fell down the stairs at home, you wouldn't have to have documentation or anything.

But, even if it does work, with out any x-rays or MRI or anything to show actual damage, I doubt you would get more than a few days worth of pills at the most anyway.

You know what always worked well for me? Migraines. I do really get them and if anybody else here gets them, you know, they are absolute torture!! It literally feels like there is an ax stuck in one side of your head. Light hurts, sound hurts, your hair hurts and sometimes the pain is so bad I puke. The new migraine drugs like Immitrex work most of the time, but if they don't the only thing that helps is massive amounts of opiates. Plus, there is really no way to check for migraines. Sometimes they look into your eyeballs to see dilated blood vessels I think, but there isn't anyway to really tell. Just sayin'.

[aj11]

some have to cheat the system, closest MMT clinic is 100 miles away, closest sub doc 150 miles away

[eternalsunshine]

well, i went to minor emergency and all i got was muscle relaxers which i have and dont take. my primary wont take insurance. i dont need to worry about car insurance fraud because I said I was in a classmate's car and she didnt have insurance. I am going to say she never came back to class and I dont know her last name. I am going to my doc. tomorrow but i will have to pay!

[SpecialGuy69]

its one thing to milk it if you really were in a car accident. Its another (stupider) thing to just walk into the doc saying you were in a car accident. If you were in a car accident severe enough to merit good pills, chances are you would have gone to the ER and gotten referrals from them. Also, in most moderate to severe car crashes (the kind you could get an injury worthy of CII's) the airbag is going to go off and leave rugburn all over your face. You would also most likely have a seatbelt shaped bruise across your chest, and other bumps/bruises.

You could explain away all of these things - old car, no airbag - back seat, lap belt only - i felt okay at the time didnt think i was seriously hurt - we didnt file a police report - driver doesnt have insurance etc. etc. etc. but by the time your done spouting off excuses, people in the next building can smell the bullshit.

Why not just tell your doc you have been experiencing severe back (or neck or shoulder or knee) pain instead? It could have been brought on by the cold weather, a slip on the ice, or an old sports injury, or an OLD car accident (something that actually happened). That way you don't have to spin a massive web of lies, and you actually might get something going with it.

The ladies seem to have real good luck with ovarian cysts.

[eternalsunshine]

ACTUALLY, YES!!!! I was in a car accident exactly as you described BEFORE I took pills. I didnt go to the Er because I wasnt in pain till the next day. there was a burn on my face though. I do see my primary care for MS but he only gives me tramadol and its just not cutting it anymore. I actually fell into a bush yesterday so I am cut up. convienent, YES!!!

[Suboxstitute]

Uncle Wiggly makes many good points, but a good one on this thread was about the insurance - don't ever lie about anythin involving insurance, it is fraud, and the companies have ARMIES of people waitin for you to screw up. They're joyless little people in cubicles.

I myself, after having a painful (and demoralizing female procedure done at the end of the week) was in a car accident Satuday - a stupid woman pulled RIGHT in front of me and the entire front of my pride and joy almost new 2007 Acura is screwed up big time. ARGGGGGH.

The ambulance EMTs made me come in there and looked at the mark form the seatbelt and took my blood pressure and stuff. I almost let them take me to the ER but the I remembered I had taken clonazepam with my bupe that morning and that's ALL I needed. So no transport.

Saw my doctor today for different reason, long story I just can't win this year. I might start another piss and moan about it - it is PISSY thar's for sure.

good lcuk and may he SS

[insaneike]

First I'd like to go ahead and say if you don't want to hear about me bitching to the thread starter about his selfish act please do not read my post nor reply to it..

I just want to add that you guys who try and pull these fkaing pain scheme just pain out piss me off. chances are, one day you're going to be in pain, and will see how hard it is to get half assed CII narcotics nowadays thanx to a stupid ass DEA seeing euphoria as an 'unwanted' side effect and all these ass holes faking, these days it really is a bitch to tell if someone is faking or not, so now chances are unless you have been on narcotics before or currently in opioid treatment you're not getting shit but maybe some lortab and soma. Thanks to ppl like you docs now have a ahrd time tleling who is serious and in legit pain and who isn't, and makes it even harder for us in legit, and severe at that, pain, to get the medicine we NEED to live a half way decent life and actually care to live another day from the pain.. with all the pressure the DEA is putting on docs these days about Schedule II narcotic opioids why do so many asshole 'junkies' have to go and make docs try n sort out fakers from legit patients and make it even harder.\"but one person faking isn't going to amke a diff" who gives a shit, I hope you believe in karma and it bites you in the ass one day dude.. watch you actually have a wreck now and suffer some serious pain and not be able to get anything for it.

Hell you're just wanting to get high, and not wanting actual pain relief, so why don't you go score some dope anyway? If you're just trying to keep well you can easily get a box of poppy pods, they suck for getting high if you have a toler but are a lifesaver for keeping well.

later

[Venus]

[quote=AgentOrange;229913]Also, in most moderate to severe car crashes (the kind you could get an injury worthy of CII's) the airbag is going to go off and leave rugburn all over your face.


I don't want to disagree with you cause I think I may just be in love with you:o, but... I was in a serious car accident and the airbag did deploy and never left a mark on me. It hurt like hell though from the force of the bag, especially my uh...chest. I had just gotten my script filled and was driving home from the dr/pharm and terrified they were going to arrest me. To this day I still don't know what happened. I was coming to a red light and trying to stop but they brakes wouldn't work. There was a SUV stopped at the light so I tried to turn the wheel and it didn't work either.

After everything you have to do in a wreck was done one of the cops offered me a ride home and I took it (wondered the entire way home if I was going to jail). The next day I was throwing up and my neck was killing me but I had better meds at home than the ER would have given me.

[steve johanson]

I got in one this week and the doc gave me a script for 30 flexiril. I thought I'd at least get a few vikes. She said "It's gonna hurt waaay more tomorrow do you have any advil at home" What a waste of time, I took half the day off to go get stupid muscle relaxers. The other Doc gave my girlfriend a script for percs and she shares so it wasn't all bad.