View Full Version : Stick to the Script ?
ComaChaser
01-28-2008, 10:59 PM
I just left the ER with a script for 60 2MG generic Hydro's .
Mallinckrodts , to be exact. I am sure I could go back to the pharmacy and get the brand names if i need to , but am I good with what i have ?
I unknowingly let them fill it generically.
So , stick to the Script , or flip it ?
Thanks.
PS - I guess im asking which is best for IV.
EleusisII
01-28-2008, 11:02 PM
I don't think it would raise any red flags, except for the red flag in your wallet, so go ahead and do it.
Pharmacists know that there isn't any difference in namebrand vs. generics, it only us junkies and pillheads that make a big deal out of it.
Just say that you prefer that the namebrand works better for you. You don't even need to explain.
ComaChaser
01-29-2008, 12:38 AM
yeah , i dont give a shit if they think suspicious thoughts or not , i have the TICKET lol.
I just want to get the best thing to slam IV.
swap it out you think?
EleusisII
01-29-2008, 12:44 AM
Wouldn't know bro... I mean, I know that you have to IV those, but wether the originals or generics are better, I don't know.I'm pretty sure there's a helpful junkie who does know right around the corner though.
EDIT: You know something... Call a pharmacy and ask. Ask for the pharmacist, tell him you got some dillies, and you wanted to know which ones are better to mainline, the generics or the originals. Make sure to use that exactl word: Mainline, record it it, and post a link to it here.
If you post it to youtube, it'll be a viral sensation in no time, for sure!
ComaChaser
01-29-2008, 01:14 AM
hahaha , i'll get right on it . the speakerphone on the iPhone sucks though. I have to figure out how to amplify it.
Sidenote :
Im working on a movie with the people that created Barney and Narnia. everytime I see your avatar it makes me feel guilty that Im not working. lol
Levity
01-29-2008, 02:00 AM
hahaha , i'll get right on it . the speakerphone on the iPhone sucks though. I have to figure out how to amplify it.
Sidenote :
Im working on a movie with the people that created Barney and Narnia. everytime I see your avatar it makes me feel guilty that Im not working. lol
Use a pin (or a needle) to puncture the membrane thru the "sound holes" at the bottom of the iPhone.
Makes the music louder too.
SpecialGuy69
01-29-2008, 04:55 AM
Even if you bought the pills there 1 hour ago, you will NEVER get a pharmacy to "trade in" pills. EVER. Try it and see what I mean.
upstate_007
01-29-2008, 06:15 AM
All sales are final my friend.
havok
01-29-2008, 07:09 AM
I am assuming you are talking about hydromorphone (dilaudid).
In that case, all generic dilaudid are pretty much the same as the brand ones as far as IV goes. I have IV'ed pretty much every different kind of dilaudid there is, and they all worked well. There might be some slight difference in terms of how much filler, etc is left over in the spoon, but you will get high off any kind of dilaudid.
In fact, I'm not sure which ones are the brand name ones. I have had the 54-403 ones, the mallies, the "K's" and the abbott ones. Also the triangle 8mg ones which come with the "a" abbott logo or an "M" on them.
Of all these many different types of dilaudid, they all worked fine for IV.
reddragon3668
01-29-2008, 09:37 AM
You find a junkie doctor that's wanting to go out with a bang, right before his big trial. That's classic, "fuck the DEA", behavior. I love it! LOL
how did you get 60 dillies at the ER? I am curious, i dont need them, but that sounds interesting.
southernbelle
01-29-2008, 09:46 AM
Hell, I WISH I could take back those sorry-ass Mallie's I got a week or so ago. Got to the car and lo and behold I had Mallie's instead of Watsons. damn, damn, damn! btw, I"m talking about hydrocodone, not dilaudid. I don't know if there's a difference b/w the 2 on those, but you can bet your ass there is a HUGE difference in lortab.
upstate_007
01-29-2008, 11:00 AM
Hell, I WISH I could take back those sorry-ass Mallie's I got a week or so ago. Got to the car and lo and behold I had Mallie's instead of Watsons. damn, damn, damn! btw, I"m talking about hydrocodone, not dilaudid. I don't know if there's a difference b/w the 2 on those, but you can bet your ass there is a HUGE difference in lortab.
I hear ya. I get the same end result as far as pain control and whatnot from the two different brands, but the Watsons seem to kick in quicker and harder. Must be due to the fillers and binders and all that nonsense in there.
I got my refill script from the doc office yesterday and was scrambling around to get it filled before the end of my lunch break. Only place available had the Mallies. Oh well. Not the end of the world. They were still the first pills or opiates in general that I had in almost two weeks.
GoddessofRATs
01-29-2008, 12:13 PM
Yea, wow... how did ya get those from an ER, that is an amazing ER score. At first i thought you were talking about HYDROcodone and i was like why on earth does he wanna bang Hydrocodone, than as i read the thread i realized you were talking about Dillies. I didn't pay attention to what section it was in, if i had i would have realized you were talking about dillies lol.
And ya all sales are final. No pharmacy is going to trade pills with you. I mean I'm sure there is some pharmacist out there that would do it but that is highly rare!!
GREAT SCORE dude!
GOR
how did you get 60 dillies at the ER? I am curious, i dont need them, but that sounds interesting.
mollywopped
01-29-2008, 12:31 PM
I am assuming you are talking about hydromorphone (dilaudid).
In that case, all generic dilaudid are pretty much the same as the brand ones as far as IV goes. I have IV'ed pretty much every different kind of dilaudid there is, and they all worked well. There might be some slight difference in terms of how much filler, etc is left over in the spoon, but you will get high off any kind of dilaudid.
In fact, I'm not sure which ones are the brand name ones. I have had the 54-403 ones, the mallies, the "K's" and the abbott ones. Also the triangle 8mg ones which come with the "a" abbott logo or an "M" on them.
Of all these many different types of dilaudid, they all worked fine for IV.
Not true, there are some types that gel up. I don't remember which ones they were, but I have gotten some on 2 different occasions that gelled up when they touched water.
However, the mallin ones are OK, if I remember correctly. They should work fine. But, even if they don't, there is no way the pharmacy is gonna let you return them. You would have a better chance figuring out how to turn the gel into an IVable substance than trying to get the pharmacy to return pills.
Princess
01-29-2008, 12:44 PM
You'll have to make due with what you got. Pharmacies don't do returns or exchanges on any scripts.
Be thankful you scored that in the ER!
ComaChaser
01-29-2008, 03:28 PM
Hey , thanks for all the replies.
About the ER score :
English accent (I'm from Brooklyn)
Pleasant , likable affect
story about back pain and tragic accident
story about airline lost my luggage and with it , my meds and I've been here for 4 days going through withdrawal.
Didn't work at all on the first ER. The second one , the guy was like " Dilaudid is not a drug we write for in the ER , sorry" . Then he came back with a script for it and said something struck him as genuine.
Nice guy , really nice guy. I feel like a junky scumbag. Especially as I'm writing this , glorifying the whole thing.
He's not an idiot , at all.
I'm a great actor. Period.
Also , I just got back from the Pharmacy. I exchanged the prescription for brand name. No problem really. I just said that I was never asked if I wanted name brand.
So yeah , that part was very easy. Surprised me.
Raisin
01-29-2008, 03:29 PM
The malinkrodts work like a champ
Brony
01-29-2008, 03:58 PM
Hey , thanks for all the replies.
About the ER score :
English accent (I'm from Brooklyn)
Pleasant , likable affect
story about back pain and tragic accident
story about airline lost my luggage and with it , my meds and I've been here for 4 days going through withdrawal.
Didn't work at all on the first ER. The second one , the guy was like " Dilaudid is not a drug we write for in the ER , sorry" . Then he came back with a script for it and said something struck him as genuine.
Nice guy , really nice guy. I feel like a junky scumbag. Especially as I'm writing this , glorifying the whole thing.
He's not an idiot , at all.
I'm a great actor. Period.
Also , I just got back from the Pharmacy. I exchanged the prescription for brand name. No problem really. I just said that I was never asked if I wanted name brand.
So yeah , that part was very easy. Surprised me.
I find that hard to believe.
Where's Roxi, we need the *official* verdict on pill returns...
SpecialGuy69
01-29-2008, 04:50 PM
Hey , thanks for all the replies.
About the ER score :
English accent (I'm from Brooklyn)
Pleasant , likable affect
story about back pain and tragic accident
story about airline lost my luggage and with it , my meds and I've been here for 4 days going through withdrawal.
Didn't work at all on the first ER. The second one , the guy was like " Dilaudid is not a drug we write for in the ER , sorry" . Then he came back with a script for it and said something struck him as genuine.
Nice guy , really nice guy. I feel like a junky scumbag. Especially as I'm writing this , glorifying the whole thing.
He's not an idiot , at all.
I'm a great actor. Period.
Also , I just got back from the Pharmacy. I exchanged the prescription for brand name. No problem really. I just said that I was never asked if I wanted name brand.
So yeah , that part was very easy. Surprised me.Floating, is that you?
Don't even think about it, ElyusesII
Princess
01-29-2008, 07:00 PM
Floating, is that you?
Don't even think about it, ElyusesII
LMAO. That's hilarious!
Maybe the pharmacy rules vary from state to state?
youwonhundred
01-29-2008, 07:08 PM
I find that hard to believe.
Where's Roxi, we need the *official* verdict on pill returns...
You ain't the only one who finds that a bit tough to swallow but like you say, we need the official verdict.
clinton
01-29-2008, 07:35 PM
dont you have any Famous music /actoR friends with decent connections...
cmon your a musician, im a musician , there is always someone...
plus you have better connections due to your fame ?
im not being sarcastic by the way, just asking...
ComaChaser
01-29-2008, 07:46 PM
sure I do , and I'll be sure to call them when I want to broadcast to my whole professional community that I inject pharmaceutical opiates in my free time.
to the non-believers , the bag was still stapled and I hadnt opened it. It was a sealed bottle too I think. The chick was hesitant for a second , but she did it.
Bout to bang my first shot.
wish me luck.
clinton
01-29-2008, 07:47 PM
Find junkie musicians, theRes a million oF them!
xecutrex
01-29-2008, 08:46 PM
If the bag was still stapeled shut how did you know you had generics?
Suboxstitute
01-29-2008, 09:06 PM
60 2MG generic Hydro's Op said above
DUMB QUESTION FROM NON DILLIE USER:
When I see hydro I think hydrocodone... so am I supposed to take that an an abbreviation for hydroMORPHONE? (Dilaudid, right?)
Now I get what all the fuss was about. Anyway, I don't think hydrocodone comes in less than 5 mg anyway.
Is that a weird way to abbreviate it? Don't people just say dillies or something? And 60 from an ER. Call me a cab. Or call me anything....
And I am really surprised they took them back (but as for knowing they were generic, it was probably on the paper stapled OUTSIDE of the bag).
Princess
01-29-2008, 09:19 PM
Ok, IF the bottle was one of the bottles from the manufacturer, they will take that as a trade as long as it is still sealed. (I just verified with my friend who is a Pharmacy Manager at a local chain pharm in Az).
He (OP) said the bottle was sealed.... I somtimes get my script of 100 fiorinal's in the sealed manufacturer bottle...so I believe that to be his case.
SpecialGuy69
01-29-2008, 09:54 PM
2 reasons i call bullshit:
-the bag was stapled, so how did he know what brand of pills was inside
-he fills his dillies 8 hours ago and still hasn't slammed one? I get high in the pharmacy parking lot for fucks sake!
Princess
01-29-2008, 10:01 PM
My shit is stapled outside of the bag...so I can read what's inside without opening the entire bag.... that part I don't find hard to believe.
The part about that kind of score is a little hard to believe...but not impossible.
And me too, AO....I'm high before I start my car and leave the pharmacy. I wouldn't have time to come home and post to you guys for advice!
ComaChaser
01-29-2008, 10:24 PM
Ok , I'm busted. you're right AgentOrange , I come on here and lie to make people jealous.
Anyone ever called you a prick ?
Or am I the only one.....
EXACTLY , the bag has all the info and even a nice little pamphlet on the EXTERIOR.
Sorry , but I'm not cool enough to rig up my FIRST IV EXPERIENCE in the parking lot , right next to Chuck E Cheese.
Forgive me for having some tact.
SpecialGuy69
01-29-2008, 10:39 PM
Ok , I'm busted. you're right AgentOrange , I come on here and lie to make people jealous.
Anyone ever called you a prick ?
Or am I the only one.....
EXACTLY , the bag has all the info and even a nice little pamphlet on the EXTERIOR.
Sorry , but I'm not cool enough to rig up my FIRST IV EXPERIENCE in the parking lot , right next to Chuck E Cheese.
Forgive me for having some tact.Tact = not name-calling
If you hadn't stooped to name-calling, I would have accepted your explanation and admitted I could easily be wrong.
Believe it or not, PLENTY of people come on here and make up all sorts of bullshit- last month some kid was saying his parents busted him with 18 grams of h, meanwhile in another thread, he's taking about how he's never done h in his life, but would like to try it. I dont know WHY people pull this sorry ass shit, but unfortunately, it happens.
Watch your mouth and we'll get along fine.
roxi*stardust
01-30-2008, 06:16 AM
I find that hard to believe.
Where's Roxi, we need the *official* verdict on pill returns...
You ain't the only one who finds that a bit tough to swallow but like you say, we need the official verdict.
sure I do , and I'll be sure to call them when I want to broadcast to my whole professional community that I inject pharmaceutical opiates in my free time.
to the non-believers , the bag was still stapled and I hadnt opened it. It was a sealed bottle too I think. The chick was hesitant for a second , but she did it.
Bout to bang my first shot.
wish me luck.
Ok, IF the bottle was one of the bottles from the manufacturer, they will take that as a trade as long as it is still sealed. (I just verified with my friend who is a Pharmacy Manager at a local chain pharm in Az).
He (OP) said the bottle was sealed.... I somtimes get my script of 100 fiorinal's in the sealed manufacturer bottle...so I believe that to be his case.
Ok for the record under normal circumstances no Pharmacy in this world would exchnage pills because you don't like the generic given to you. Now having said that, southernbelle is right about it being a *SEALED* bottle from the manfacturer, they would probably take that back and not face any type of censure from the State board of Pharmacy or DEA. Now if the bag was stapled and never open a pharmacist may take them back but that would be extremely bad judgment on their part and they could lose their license for doing it. Think about how easy it is to remove a staple and re-staple it and it not look tampered with, it's pretty easy. If a RPh did take them back then they took a *HUGE* chance for the OP. What I question is the pharmacy actually having brand name 2mg Diluadid in stock. Not to many people care about generics of these types of pills, hell alot of pharms don't even carry brand name OxyContin; which people do in fact ask for frequently. So I am going to raise the BS flag here but I could be wrong, there could be a pharmacist willing to lose their license for someone who wants brand name Diluadid.
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ComaChaser
01-30-2008, 06:26 AM
i must be surrounded by massive good luck.
Would someone please tell me what would compel me to come here and fabricate such things ?
I never opened the bag , but she opened it when I gave it back to her and it did indeed have some method of plastic seal covering the cap.
Jesus guys , what's my motive?
Please adore my fictional Opiophile profile and be jealous of my score.......
ANY f*cking way....
10 of them are already gone.
I love the way it shoots up my back and makes my shoulder blades feel like theyre going to sprout wings and carry me off to Jamaica.
To all of you that may be jealous , which may be the source of your doubt , I say this :
"YOU WILL NEVER GET THIS , YOU WILL NEVER GET THIS , LA LA LA LA LA"
-Borat Sagdiyev
Uncle Wiggly
01-30-2008, 08:43 AM
Hi, I have no interest in this one way or the other but if it's bothering you just post up a picture of the name brands. Ya know a couple of pills one heads and the other tails with the bottle either behind or next to it. You can always black out personal information. Then you can do a little dance and sing a little song. Just a thought.
"Mallinckrodts , to be exact. I am sure I could go back to the pharmacy and get the brand names if i need to , but am I good with what i have ?"
BTW - roxi, don't those Malis come in sealed bottles of 100?
Princess
01-30-2008, 08:58 AM
Roxi~
Did you mean me, in regards to the sealed manufactured bottle? My phamacist friend said this would be the ONLY way...and it the manufature seal was not broke.
Ok for the record under normal circumstances no Pharmacy in this world would exchnage pills because you don't like the generic given to you. Now having said that, southernbelle is right about it being a *SEALED* bottle from the manfacturer, they would probably take that back and not face any type of censure from the State board of Pharmacy or DEA. Now if the bag was stapled and never open a pharmacist may take them back but that would be extremely bad judgment on their part and they could lose their license for doing it. Think about how easy it is to remove a staple and re-staple it and it not look tampered with, it's pretty easy. If a RPh did take them back then they took a *HUGE* chance for the OP. What I question is the pharmacy actually having brand name 2mg Diluadid in stock. Not to many people care about generics of these types of pills, hell alot of pharms don't even carry brand name OxyContin; which people do in fact ask for frequently. So I am going to raise the BS flag here but I could be wrong, there could be a pharmacist willing to lose their license for someone who wants brand name Diluadid.
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EleusisII
01-30-2008, 08:59 AM
I don't doubt the poster... Stranger things have happened. Remember that pharmacies might do things fidderently depending on where you're located.
I've exchanged pills before at the pharmacy myself. And I've tried getting 30 OC20 at the ER before (though I'm sure some people would call BS on that too), so stranger things have definetly happened.
roxi*stardust
01-30-2008, 05:24 PM
BTW - roxi, don't those Malis come in sealed bottles of 100?
No they do not come in bottles of 60. Only 100s.
http://pharmaceuticals.mallinckrodt.com/Products/Product.asp?UT=0&BusinessUnitID=1&ProductID=5461
Roxi~
Did you mean me, in regards to the sealed manufactured bottle? My phamacist friend said this would be the ONLY way...and it the manufature seal was not broke.
I'm so sorry PTO Mom, I don't know why I was thinking sb said that. But your RPh friend is correct.
I don't doubt the poster... Stranger things have happened. Remember that pharmacies might do things fidderently depending on where you're located.
I've exchanged pills before at the pharmacy myself. And I've tried getting 30 OC20 at the ER before (though I'm sure some people would call BS on that too), so stranger things have definetly happened.
Since you are not from the US whether or not you have returned drugs to a Pharmacy doesn't really make a case for the OP because he is here in the US and here in the US it is a violation of federal law for RPh's to accept returns of any medication, especially CIIs and other controlled substances. I called a friend of mine who has been a RPh for years. He has worked in instutional and retail pharmacies and he confirmed for me that it is a violation of federal pharmacy law. I should add that he also said that it doen't mean that it doesn't happen. He said the RPh would be risking their license and the Pharmacies license by doing and especially with a Schedule 2 drug. The US is much stricter than other countries regarding pharmacy laws and record keeping.
As far as getting OC at a US ER, probably less likely than a RPh breaking the above law. But since the last time we discussed it here not one person stepped up and said they actually got OCs from an ER doctor. No one who posted in that thread ever got anything btter than Percocet. If anyone has and you live in the US, please tep foward and tell us your story!! PLEASE!!!
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