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WarmCyanide
01-22-2008, 10:45 PM
THC
Delta 9 Tetrahydrocannabinol (http://cougar.eb.com/soundc11/t/tetrah06.wav)
:checkered this thread is for cannabis discussion only :checkered
we'll even allow Nate to chime in.:puterwork
as for me, i'm having a hard time NOT partaking due to new job hunting.
so i'm going to walk into the closet, and sink one into the water just to christen this thread
tomorrow, i'll search the artificial piss posts.
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:qEd39bfHqbzAyM:http://svana.org/sjh/images/marijuana_leaf.gif (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://svana.org/sjh/images/marijuana_leaf.gif&imgrefurl=http://svana.org/sjh/diary/2005/&h=341&w=324&sz=27&hl=en&start=2&tbnid=qEd39bfHqbzAyM:&tbnh=120&tbnw=114&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmarijuana%2Bleaf%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D 10%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff)
Man, screw the Imitrex and other migraine meds... THC is the most effective method of relieving my occasional migraines. Only thing about it is that if I smoke too much, I start losing my memory and my brain feels like it's in a fog.
Yes, I likey.
Silence. I kill you.
WarmCyanide
01-22-2008, 10:53 PM
my mother told her neurologist she smokes for her migraines.. only thing that works. the head shop story is for later
Do tell. -----> head shop story.
I've considered mentioning it to the doctor, but then again, I probably don't have alot of credibility. I'm sure I'd be laughed out of the office. It's too bad... it helps tremendously. And I don't have to get stoned... just enough to relieve the pain.
WarmCyanide
01-22-2008, 10:58 PM
Do tell. -----> head shop story.
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hehe. off to bed now. i'll PM you tomorrow or put it here
Chicago
01-22-2008, 11:03 PM
WHEN smoking thc, & if I have no opiates in my body, woooo weeee I get my parinoid then some crack heads.
Speaking of crack heads, When I use to smoke rocks b4 doing my dope. I had this one buddy of mine who after smoking rocks would play peak a boo w/himself, NO JOKE, HE WOULD SIT IN FRONT OF THE BATHROOM MIRROR HIT THE PIPE, BLOW OUT THE SMOKE, THEN LOOK IN MIRROR W/HIS HANDS IN FRONT OF HIS FACE, POPPING THEM OPEN SAYING PEAK A BOO, NOW IMAGINE SOME BLACK GUY PLAYING PEAK A BOO IN THE MIRROR LIKE THAT, LIKE HE PLAYING W/BABY. I WAS LIKE WTF.
ANOTHER TIME I CAME BY HIS CRIB & DUDE WAS LIKE DID U SEE HIM, I WAS LIKE WHO, HE WAS LIKE I BEEN CHASING THIS MOTHERFUCKER 4 TWO HRS, WTF U TALKING ABOUT, HE TELLS ME U CK THAT CLOSET, I'LL CK THIS CLOSET, :confused: I WAS LIKE PIMP THERE IS NO ONE HERE!!!NO NO NO I ALMOST GOT HIM BUT I STARTED TO HIT THE PIPE AGAIN THEN HE GOT AWAY.
DAMM, BRO I GOTTA GO, CALL ME IF YOU CATCH THIS GUY & YOU HAVING TROUBLE, HE WAS YEA YEA, OK.
THIS IS ALL TRUE.
CRAZY WORLD. OOPS SORRY I NO THIS WAS A THC THREAD, SORRY FOR TURNING IT INTO SOME CRACK STORYS.:o
lunchbox
01-22-2008, 11:21 PM
i love to blaze but ever since i got on these antidepressants - lexapro - i can't really enjoy the herb as much or much at all i get weird off-highs i hate it -_-
but if i go off the pills for a couple days i get great highs i dunno these pills fuck with my green now i don't really smoke much at all i seem to have some psychological dependency on my meds it's either meds or bud and i seriously have to get better so its meds for a while for me :/
btw, love the avatar WC ^_^
WarmCyanide
01-22-2008, 11:25 PM
CRAZY WORLD. OOPS SORRY I NO THIS WAS A THC THREAD, SORRY FOR TURNING IT INTO SOME CRACK STORYS.:o
no big deal. just keep this thread about THC everyone:)
Raisin
01-22-2008, 11:46 PM
I don't pay for it but much like everything else, if it's there then I'll do it. I prefer to be alone while high but again, if it's there........by the way great avatar and thanks for being a funny motherfucker.
Mustelid
01-23-2008, 04:29 AM
I've been smoking a lot for the past month, but had a terrifying experience a few days ago that has me not smoking anymore. I had one like that many years ago, and I guess it's not just a fluke.
It's my whole sensory system going into 'frames' where I see only snapshots, not fluid motions. It's not just visual, between frames I can't even feel anything, making my tactile sense feel like anything I'm touching is pulsing.
Also the general feeling between frames is an existential-outreach psychosis where it is somewhat like falling down an endless pit.
Marijuana only postponed my migraines anyway, not a true cure like triptans and opioids.
The frames were the most terrifying thing of my life, wouldn't you know it, no benzos or opioids to calm me down either.
Chipdorq
01-23-2008, 05:42 AM
i smoke shitloads of ganja
used to make me super paranoid
not anymore
I've been smoking a lot for the past month, but had a terrifying experience a few days ago that has me not smoking anymore. I had one like that many years ago, and I guess it's not just a fluke.
It's my whole sensory system going into 'frames' where I see only snapshots, not fluid motions. It's not just visual, between frames I can't even feel anything, making my tactile sense feel like anything I'm touching is pulsing.
Also the general feeling between frames is an existential-outreach psychosis where it is somewhat like falling down an endless pit.
Marijuana only postponed my migraines anyway, not a true cure like triptans and opioids.
The frames were the most terrifying thing of my life, wouldn't you know it, no benzos or opioids to calm me down either.
Ya must be tokin some serious BUD dude....I think problems start when plants are manipulated to produce high THC yield.Which most are not used to....I let my plants grow natural,Spanish sunhine.Let em Bud and then simple cure,upside down in a dark room.
I know the serious growers have numerous ideas etc, but i'm happy wiv my mellow, chill out,kinda smoke.....Be cool...Raz
pharmboy
01-23-2008, 06:55 AM
I heard from very good sources, I think it was the Wall Street
Journel, That The money made from domestic Marijuana toped
corn and wheat combined. Yea go big green.:jumping-s
PS. we need a pot leaf post icon.
limitless_euphoria
01-23-2008, 07:05 AM
It's about time someone created this thread. I had thought of making one similar myself but I figured since I had never used TMFGDSE to see if it existed why bother?
Anyway, marijuana.... yep, I love it; I'd dare say it's a very close second in my heart next to opiates. Unless you smoke like 10 times per day you can stop cold turkey with little to no side effects. You do get irritable and somewhat depressed if you go from multiple times per day to nothing.
My only complaints: as I've gotten older, the sky is no longer the limit; I actually get a bit paranoid if I smoke wayyyy too much especially the good bud. Not only that, but also really good bud just makes me want to eat, and eat, and eat some more. Then after that my high is gone so I have to go smoke again.
But, I think it's a far superior drug to alcohol any day of the week. How many pot head's beat the shit out of their kids, cause major car accidents and kill people, start barroom brawls? You get the idea. Yet, it remains illegal because in 1937 it was portrayed as something that "those colored folk and mexicans do."
What a bunch of racist bull shit. I just think it's really sad that a lot of marijuana goes through so many sources by the time anything decent comes around the cheapest you're going to get it in the New England area is maybe $40/3.5g. Usually if you're just buying 1/8 they want to charge you the full $50. But, unlike spending $40-50 on a gram of coke which would probably disappear in a couple of hours (or less if you're a real fiend) at least your 1/8 of pot should last a few days. There again: if you smoke it like it's your job—yeah it's going to disappear fast!
The other aspect I like about pot is analgesia. It's not as potent as opiates but I agree with W.O.S. that it works great on migraines and headaches alike. It's also one of the best anti nausea medications out there—I'd dare say better than either compazine or zofran (and zofran kicks the crap out of compazine, just FYI).
It's also kind of like what methadone is to someone trying to quit dope. I've seen many an alcoholic and cokehead transfer their addiction to pot and then taper down off that and stop completely. For someone who is of the mentality "I've got to get high to get by" pot's probably the least dangerous deal in terms of the law, your health and dependency.
Oh well, just my $0.02.
zenpunk
01-23-2008, 07:26 AM
MJ did nothing for me, not even a high when I smoked it years ago. I hated it because my friends would get their buzz on and I'd be like, "what the fuck am I missing here". But after I used H it must have done something to the receptors in my brain because then I would get a nice high from it. It was great for the final stages of my H detox, I was able to roll out of bed and even get to work.
pharmboy
01-23-2008, 08:10 AM
You know its a real pisser the number of drugs that are illegal because the government
wanted to dump on and make life a bitch for this part of society or that part of society.
Drugs being illegal has NOTHING to do with the drugs, it's all about the people who DO
the drugs. Makes me sick , really toasts my biscuits .:jumping-s
My mum had M/S.Multiple Scorolcis and was in a wheelchair for the last 30yr of her life.The only thing that used to give her any relief was, me tokin my bong and blowin the smoke her way, like in her face.Eventually she'd get a high, call me "a weed smokin wanker" and while i'm in the kitchen, fetch her some coffee n biscuits, she hungry....But it was nice to see her laugh....
Theres load of straight people growin dope in UK for pure medicinal purposes.Coz its ze only ting that gives them any pain relief...."Legalise it,Dont criticise it.Drs smoke it, lawyers toke it" As Peter tosh once said.....Puff is what keeps me calm out here in "normalville".Without it,i would be in trouble....
Peace Raz
weed is good for the soul.
WC of course Im gonna chyme in ;).
Marijuana is truely a beautiful plant, god obviously put this plant on earth for a reason.
Marijuana makes me feel like me, creative, relaxed, spirtual, at ease with my surroundings. It's like it slows down the 100 trillion thoughts going through your head every second, into simple 1 step process of thinking. As many hippi's say "Simplify mannnn!".
Physically it find it reduces muscle tension (by far the better than many muscle relaxers). I find generally some pain is reduced (I find mainly because my mind is a ease and I am not focussing on how much something hurts). Headaches are obliterated, a thing of the past. Nasuea and cramping is also greatly reduced ( I always smoke a bit of herb before mushroom trips, everyone else is puking, Im trippin balls happily:D). Hunger and appetite is GREATLY increased, when I am stoned it's like I never feel full.
When I am in w/d, I smoke considerably less because I find it increases the dysphoric aspect of w/d (unless u can lay in bed all day). I usually keep it to the evenings so I can get food in (THE ONLY TIME I CAN ACTUALLY EAT), helps a bit with the boredom, definelty helps with the muscle aches, helps mildly for sleep.
I definelty find marijuana smoke is irritating on the lungs, (especially the way I smoke weed - Buckets, most effecient way) but in all honesty, I find more irritation from cigarettes. Still I won't deny that smoking weed is not helping the lung situation.
Seriously though I believe marijuana is a wonder drug with benifits that even leading pharms can't touch. The medical benifits of marijuana out-weigh the negatives. I am very happy to see that here in Canada we allow medicinal marijuana, and I actually know a few people with prescriptions (and it helps their situation). I hope as a world we can get past the hysteria that marijuana is a "drug" therefore it is bad, and make this wonderful plant avaliable to those who would experience benifits in their lives.
Ron-Doe
01-23-2008, 03:15 PM
lots of good strains here in madison, lots of growers too.
limitless_euphoria
01-23-2008, 03:47 PM
MJ did nothing for me, not even a high when I smoked it years ago. I hated it because my friends would get their buzz on and I'd be like, "what the fuck am I missing here". But after I used H it must have done something to the receptors in my brain because then I would get a nice high from it. It was great for the final stages of my H detox, I was able to roll out of bed and even get to work.
I think kind of like human biology and physicology... certain people don't respond to certain things euphorically. Some people don't like pot and chemically it doesn't do anything and if it does it just makes them paranoid. It's not for everyone. Then again neither are opies. Trust me, they've given my wife multiple shots of morphine, stadol, demerol, hydrocodone, oxycontin (and she enjoyed NONE of them) and for SWIM to scam them it was very hard b/c she was on top of her shit. See, she never, ever asks the docs for pain pills so I suppoose the nice thing is if she asked one day I doubt he'd give her shit about it. She's toughs out a lot of pain; she's just got that ability. Some of us do, some of us don't. That's why the prescribing of medicine for chronic and acute pain should be subjective to the individual.
WarmCyanide
01-23-2008, 05:38 PM
WC of course Im gonna chyme in ;).
Marijuana is truely a beautiful plant, god obviously put this plant on earth for a reason.
Marijuana makes me feel like me, creative, relaxed, spirtual, at ease with my surroundings. It's like it slows down the 100 trillion thoughts going through your head every second, into simple 1 step process of thinking. As many hippi's say "Simplify mannnn!".
you are the official keeper of this thread. nate weed mon
These days i don't need to smoke much (zero tolerance), after one toke I find my lips curling up into an irrepressible smile. For me, it's just knowing when to stop. Too much and i over-think everything. I already have that tendency. Too much thinking is bad for me. I used to smoke daily, and as much as i could, but days would merge, got nothing done, and one day i realized i was doing it out of habit, i wasn't even enjoying it anymore... paranoia had struck. So for several years i just stopped. It's a funny thing, weed, it can be wonderful or hell. Just hate getting into mind spirals...
dont know how it helps people with pain- for me, it just amplifies my awareness of my body. If i have a slight cold i'm super tuned into my lungs or throat or whatever is sore. However, because it seems to work wonders for some, i'm sure (and i hope) one day it will become socially acceptable and widely prescribed.
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PathétiquePathos
01-24-2008, 04:49 AM
(especially the way I smoke weed - Buckets, most effecient way)
Yes!! We call them gravity bongs if I'm talking about the same thing. I've been ripping those nasty things nonstop for years. If I'm smoking alone, its the gravity. I also notice its very taxing lungwise though.
Why waste $300 on a bong I'll end up selling for drugs when I can get high out of a bucket?
As fas as efficiency its def way up there but the only thing I've hit that seemed better was a Volcano vaporizer. I've never owned one but that thing got me ripped. Insanely expensive but if I ever get a chance I will grab one just for the fact that if my lungs look like the inside of a 2liter after I'm done w/ it I'm fuct.:o
WarmCyanide
01-24-2008, 09:52 AM
Why waste $300 on a bong I'll end up selling for drugs when I can get high out of a bucket?
goddamn the head shops in your area are selling bongs for 300 dollars?
what a rip (literally)
Yep Im talking about gravity bong....though it's not really a bong, more like a gravity bucket. Tis the best way to concentrate the smoke to the point where those with high tolerances can get very high off only a few hits (haha and walk away with resin on their teeth it's so concentrated). Not to mention there is no wasted smoke, though this method isn't for noobs, seen many pukers/ bad trips because it can be intense.
I only use this way as your weed goes ALOT further.
edit: For sure WC, I will keep an eye on this thread.
limitless_euphoria
01-24-2008, 10:46 AM
You know its a real pisser the number of drugs that are illegal because the government
wanted to dump on and make life a bitch for this part of society or that part of society.
Drugs being illegal has NOTHING to do with the drugs, it's all about the people who DO
the drugs. Makes me sick , really toasts my biscuits .:jumping-s
WTF pharmboy last night when I loaded "page 2" of this thread your post totally froze my PC (I was using Opera for a web browser). I mean I had to restart the fucker. What did you do you insidious bastard you! J/K bro; it was weird though, right when it got to your post... KAPUT! Maybe I was really high or something, idk.
starglazer33
01-24-2008, 11:00 AM
"i love you sweet leaf"
Black Sabbath
LEGALIZE IT!
Papa Verine
01-24-2008, 12:45 PM
I really need to get some bud right now. I'm on day 4 kicking H and I haven't smoked weed for a few weeks now. It's just because all I cared about was H and nothing else mattered. I have been a smoker for 20 years now. I grew great buds for years and last summer was the first year in a long time I didn't grow. It's because the dope (heroin) took over and kicked aside anything else I ever cared about.
I need to get some fuckin' weed. Thanks for the thread WC. I know how the rest of my kick is going to be a little easier. I have to go make a few calls.
WarmCyanide
01-24-2008, 12:50 PM
II need to get some fuckin' weed. Thanks for the thread WC. I know how the rest of my kick is going to be a little easier.
a friend with weed is a friend indeed.
keep fightin, papa!
Papa Verine
01-24-2008, 02:25 PM
It's being delivered in an hour. I'm going to get real high too. It's been about a month since I smoked any weed.
It's being delivered in an hour. I'm going to get real high too. It's been about a month since I smoked any weed.
Haha oh yeah is it gonna hit you hard, hopefully you can get some relief.
Papa Verine
01-24-2008, 04:31 PM
Oh yeah, I'm enjoying this. It's just "something" rather then nothing. I went outside and shoveled my driveway. My next door neighbor and his punk friends from school are puffing on a big hookah in their back yard. I had to go over there and join them. Then I got my own weed which is real good and I took a couple more hits. I'm real high and it's better then nothing. My friends are hustling up money and getting dope and they aren't even calling me. I think they figure if I'm going on 5 days I might as well get clean.
SurfRat
01-24-2008, 04:33 PM
I used to toke a lot back in high school, but then I stopped and now I am good for about half a bong hit and that is plenty, otherwise I am onto the Space Shuttle.
I wish weed would do it for me, it would make my life much simpler, there's no shortage of the stuff and it is fun, all the different kinds of buds and edibles and hash in abundance. Then you got all the bongs and paraphenalia (sp?) what the hell is a gravity bong? Bucket?
I visited one of the dispensaries up in LA and it was pretty great but the prices are better down here and the selection is plenty good enough, I mean there is nothing good you can't get.
This is a gravity bong, or a "bucket" as I call it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Diagram_of_bucket_gravity_bong.JPG
Papa Verine
01-24-2008, 05:07 PM
This is a gravity bong, or a "bucket" as I call it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Diagram_of_bucket_gravity_bong.JPG
I remember smoking gravity bongs, but we didn't have wikipedia back then.
I remember smoking gravity bongs, but we didn't have wikipedia back then.
I just did a google search to see if I could find a pic so people could know what I'm talking about, low and behold wikipedia has a page on it LOL.
limitless_euphoria
01-24-2008, 07:11 PM
Well, the time has come... somehow I forsaw this day coming for months or even years now!
Unfortunately I must say buh-bye to the funky, skunky, mean green shiz-nizz as I am now officially in a PM program and they pull a UA now and again; well this is what I'm told. Perhaps it's better safe than sorry. What's more, nowadays it pretty much just makes me paranoid and eat up a storm—both of which I could do without. I'm also trying to concentrate on getting rid of a few pounds.
I will miss you quite a lot "Mary Jane" but perhaps it's all for the best. I'd much rather have sufficient PM and not have to deal with my back than getting baked and eating, eating and then eating some more.
Who am I kiddin' I'm gonna miss the fuck out of it. Oh well, sacrafices in life... what's a guy to do? I finally got my PM so I cannot bitch!
Seedy
01-24-2008, 08:01 PM
hey nate, have you tried hot-knifing? It's even more efficient than buckets because you're not burning the weed, just vapourising it. Works a hell of a lot better than those shitty vapourizers too.
You just heat up 2 butter knives on an element to the point they're almost red hot then scoop up a small pea sized lump of bud onto the tip of one knife, hold the tips together underneath a funnel (chopped off bottle), and inhale the smoke. Needs 2 people until you get the hang of it, then you can spot yourself through a tube.
Edit: we call it spotting here. one spot of some good bud is all i need to get a nice buzz on.
poonwhalla
01-24-2008, 08:07 PM
hey nate, have you tried hot-knifing? It's even more efficient than buckets because you're not burning the weed, just vapourising it. Works a hell of a lot better than those shitty vapourizers too.
hot knifes work real good for hash that gives you a whip-it like rush to. I took 2 knives and my camping stove with me to Amsterdam when I went to do hot knives in my hotel.
WarmCyanide
01-24-2008, 08:18 PM
anyone ever tried a pot shake? fun at parties.
1) coat a pub glass or any drinking glass with water, both sides. just make sure the glass is wet, basically.
2) stick it in the freezer until it's coated with frost.
3) roll a joint, light it. stick unlit end into a drinking straw so it's poking out.
be careful on this next step
4) put your mouth over the entire lit joint, (yes you're putting a lit joint in yo mowf) lips around the straw and gently blow the smoke from the straw
into the glass from the bottom up.
6) due to the cold air in the glassthe smoke will stay in the glass and inhale like youre drinking it.
the smoke is nice and cool.
poonwhalla
01-24-2008, 08:30 PM
Nice one WC. There is also the hat trick. Take a baseball cap and put it over your face with the back of the hat facing up. then have someone shotgun a joint or blunt into the top of the person's hat while they sit there and inhale.
Another good one is the human gravity bong. You clean out a garbage pail and then go to the shallow end of a pool and kneel down and light a joint. Have a friend put the garbage pail over your head so the lip of the pail is submerged. You then smoke the joint until you have had enough and you tap your friend to lift the pail and let you out.
The modified version is if you cut a hole in the bottom of the pail and attach a hose or some sort of cone shaped thing when you are done you swim out from under the thing then go to the edge of the pool and push down on the pail slowly to inhale all the trapped smoke inside
SurfRat
01-24-2008, 09:01 PM
hey nate, have you tried hot-knifing? It's even more efficient than buckets because you're not burning the weed, just vapourising it. Works a hell of a lot better than those shitty vapourizers too.
You just heat up 2 butter knives on an element to the point they're almost red hot then scoop up a small pea sized lump of bud onto the tip of one knife, hold the tips together underneath a funnel (chopped off bottle), and inhale the smoke. Needs 2 people until you get the hang of it, then you can spot yourself through a tube.
Edit: we call it spotting here. one spot of some good bud is all i need to get a nice buzz on.
Oh I did that when I was sixteen and of course used my parents knives and then had to endure prolonged and hostile interrogation re. "what the hell happened to the knives!?"
Yeh WC that sounds like something fun to try!
Mustelid
01-24-2008, 11:11 PM
Whew, been a few days of being clean and I'm still shakey, like I've been frying on dirty LSD for a few days. I'm sure it will be over eventually, I can't tell you how much I'm wanting a nice line of hydromorphone, heh, to calm my nerves from cannabis, how pathetic I am!
I hope that the marijuana experience isn't unmasking latent schizophrenia or psychosis, I'd be sooo screwed then.
I can tell you that I'll never smoke another toke of pot again as long as I live.
And as far as opiates, I'll be clean until I can get my paws on them again, then all bets are off.
repeek
01-25-2008, 02:29 AM
I just smoke it like crack, a little piece of bud in the pipe instead of crack..........one hit is all it takes.
But.............I was doing a TV repair the other night and the folks waiting for their antenna to be fixed passed a joint to me. I took one good hit and was wasted for the next twelve hours. They called it Hydro, I was caught offguard..........didn't even know that pot could be that potent.
Yo was up, just thought i'd share a funny xperience...When i was a teen and a serious stoner,i was court ordered into a twice weekly programme called I,T .Intermediate Treatment. Basically a programme for troublesome teens.I'm sure you get the picture.
We used to do all kinds of activities and afterwards play a game of cards etc.Well this week yours truly has the bright idea of introducin my fellow captives to a blast on some good sensi.After gettin well an truly loaded; we sit down for the card game.Usual silly comments etc,untill my mate wins a hand"feel sweet now do ya"? as i chuck a handful of sugar at him.He comes back wiv the ketchup,spurt in my face.Man i aint takin dat,bosh goes the brown sauce....Now the hippy's in charge of this ting know we are well stoned and just want us outta there, but we are running around the kitchen ,diner, lookin for food,sauces to chuck at each other....The last picture/memory i have of that place is when my pal scooped up the butter and aimed it at me--I ducked and it hit the guy who ran the place "splat right in the eye"...."Yes man, what a fuckin shot you fucker, you missed"...Fun times man,the next week our attendance wasnt required."No hard feelins ray, but we feel you've outgrown the group".....
I only ever had fun with puff,it should be legalised....No aggression,no WD,just plenty of major laughs.....Raz
WarmCyanide
01-25-2008, 08:35 AM
passed a joint to me. I took one good hit and was wasted for the next twelve hours. They called it Hydro, I was caught offguard..........didn't even know that pot could be that potent.
what else was in it?
what else was in it?
No doubt, weed doesn't last 12 hours lol, even the first time I smoked weed (lol now thats a story and a half) I wasn't fucked for 12 hours...couple hours then sleepy sleep.
Hydro = Hydroponics (way of growing the weed).
Regarding hot knives - I usually save them for hash. Sorry but don't believe it is more effecient then buckets. I'm talking 1 - 2 liter buckets with .5 - 1g of weed in the cap, brewed in one bucket, (the smoke is so concentrated it looks like a sick yellow;)) making you hack so hard you want to vomit, while your rubbing the resin off your teeth. Thats how I smoke weed :). Hot knifes would take forever to get high with such small pieces of weed, thats why it's ideal to use it for hash as you only need small amounts of hash. Whatever works though.
repeek
01-25-2008, 02:05 PM
what else was in it?
Ya I thought it had to be tainted too, I got a look at the little balls of Hydro the next day and it looked like a ball of little tiny hairs like you see on good sensi. Just the resinous little hairs, and of course that skunk smell. It also felt like a weed high, just magnified and long lasting. I declined the offer to do anymore.
Seedy
01-25-2008, 04:18 PM
No doubt, weed doesn't last 12 hours lol, even the first time I smoked weed (lol now thats a story and a half) I wasn't fucked for 12 hours...couple hours then sleepy sleep.
Hydro = Hydroponics (way of growing the weed).
Regarding hot knives - I usually save them for hash. Sorry but don't believe it is more effecient then buckets. I'm talking 1 - 2 liter buckets with .5 - 1g of weed in the cap, brewed in one bucket, (the smoke is so concentrated it looks like a sick yellow;)) making you hack so hard you want to vomit, while your rubbing the resin off your teeth. Thats how I smoke weed :). Hot knifes would take forever to get high with such small pieces of weed, thats why it's ideal to use it for hash as you only need small amounts of hash. Whatever works though.
Fuck man that's a huuuge tolerance! even half a g of decent weed in a bucket - that's a nice fat joint worth - of decent weed would... well fuck that I wouldn't try it.
Seriosly man, you don't NEED to smoke that much weed, thats ridiculous. The great thing about weed imo is if you smoke it right your tolerance stays low. And all the most hardcore stoners I know do spots and if the bud is good they'll have 3-4 tops. Try it!
Edit: if buckets were as efficient as hot knives you wouldn't be smoking that much at a time to get high. know what I'm saying?
Chipdorq
01-25-2008, 04:37 PM
I have four fake-cigarette one hitter on my desk at the moment. I look like a crackler. I find them in my pants and shit. And i need to re-up .... with the quickness!
Weed, forever and ever, amen.
Seedy
01-25-2008, 04:54 PM
^^ Those fake ciggie's are the best! I used to use one of them for work... that reminds me of a funny story... One time I was toking up on the way to a job, just running some cables for a shop sound system. I park the van outside and go and check out the job to figure out what i'll need. Then I head back to the van to grab my stuff and I'm thinking 'is someone fucking with me here? the van's been rearranged! Where is everything?' Eventually I figured out I'd gone back to the electricians van parked next to mine. :rolleyes: I don't smoke at work any more.
lunchbox
01-25-2008, 05:02 PM
anybody ever shoot up marijuana??? anyone?
limitless_euphoria
01-25-2008, 06:16 PM
anybody ever shoot up marijuana??? anyone?
Somehow, someday, I knew this question would come up. Why am I not surprised!
I seriously doubt it, but I bet some kid $20 to do a line of this really dusty schwaggy crusty crap at the bottom of an old baggie I had. He declined; I think he was holding out for more cash.
Now I have a question for my fellow toquers. What is the quickest way for someone who has smoked several times over this past month who is definitely overweight to get THC to leave one's body?
I know THC is known to be highly lipophilic and that's why it hangs around so long. I already explained my situation about being forced into retirement earlier in the thread and I was just wondering if anyone knew of any way to speed up the process of expelling THC from my body? The one thing I've heard is that drinking pure cranberry juice is effective to an extent.
My concern is I may have underplayed the amount of weed I actually was consuming to the PM doc so I might not test clean as soon as he might think. Well, I didn't specify how much or how frequently I had smoked, I just left it at, "I smoked some last week," which was the truth. But before that I was smoking often (more days a week than not).
Any help or suggestions would be most excellent!!!
WarmCyanide
01-25-2008, 06:22 PM
anybody ever shoot up marijuana??? anyone?
yes.
(not me)
Ya I thought it had to be tainted too, I got a look at the little balls of Hydro the next day and it looked like a ball of little tiny hairs like you see on good sensi. Just the resinous little hairs, and of course that skunk smell. It also felt like a weed high, just magnified and long lasting. I declined the offer to do anymore.
even if it was pure THC in that one hit you took, it wouldn't have given you jollies for 12 hours. i think it sucks they didn't tell you other shit was in it.
repeek
01-25-2008, 07:40 PM
yes.
(not me)
even if it was pure THC in that one hit you took, it wouldn't have given you jollies for 12 hours. i think it sucks they didn't tell you other shit was in it.
I really think it was some really potent weed, I smoked weed maybe three times in the last twenty years, and the guy told me after they all laughed at me that night he went out and wreaked his car.
WarmCyanide
01-25-2008, 07:51 PM
I really think it was some really potent weed, I smoked weed maybe three times in the last twenty years, and the guy told me after they all laughed at me that night he went out and wreaked his car.
wow. that must be some good stuff indeed. i'd start flippin out on the sixth or seventh hour, asking myself what i signed up for. :o
Mustelid
01-25-2008, 08:23 PM
Warm Cyanide, a lot of my stoner friends have had good luck with testing negative for cannabis, despite smoking even up to the night before the test by drinking enough water to pee clear, then taking massive vitamin B complex packs to bring color back into it.
Also, don't piss directly in the cup, instead, urinate first, then catch it mid-stream.
I got a free sample of a 'cleansing' pill at Hempfest, and the active ingredient was glycerin! In other words, a scam, those don't do anything, only water and mega-dose b-complex work.
WarmCyanide
01-25-2008, 08:48 PM
Warm Cyanide, a lot of my stoner friends have had good luck with testing negative for cannabis, despite smoking even up to the night before the test by drinking enough water to pee clear, then taking massive vitamin B complex packs to bring color back into it.
Also, don't piss directly in the cup, instead, urinate first, then catch it mid-stream.
I got a free sample of a 'cleansing' pill at Hempfest, and the active ingredient was glycerin! In other words, a scam, those don't do anything, only water and mega-dose b-complex work.
if they're real hardcore, they'll check the specific gravity of your piss. b vites wont mean shit but i totally agree with you about them changing your pee color! i'm amazed diluted stoner piss colored w/ b vites checks out negative. good for themm:)
lunchbox
01-25-2008, 11:05 PM
yes.
(not me)
any insight on the experience? i'm curious to know without tryin though ^_^
SurfRat
01-26-2008, 03:48 AM
I really think it was some really potent weed, I smoked weed maybe three times in the last twenty years, and the guy told me after they all laughed at me that night he went out and wreaked his car.
I believe it, if you got a really good hit... The effects linger on for me too, having the low tolerance and such.
The last time I ate too many cookies, I was tripping for about a day and a half, almost incoherent the first four hours or so after they kicked in...
Seedy
01-26-2008, 04:54 AM
^^ Ahh but eating it is a different matter entirely! That can mess you up like a psychedalic - reduce your ego to nothing, etc. You gotta be prepared for the long haul! Always good to have benzos at hand.
kramorph
01-27-2008, 11:18 PM
Ahh wonderful cannabis, truly Gods gift to man.Its all bullshit pot alone has never harmed anyone. It enhances the opiate experience. I have enjoyed this miraculous wonderous plant for 24 years. Its been my daily companion for as long as I can remember. It will still be there long after I have I have gotten of methadone(if I ever get off methadone).Anyway, I havent read all the posts yet, just a few. My imaginary friend grows all his weed and it is wicked, and he gives it all to me! He has been growing for quite a few years now, so if anyone has any q's about how to grow or consume etc, I'm sure my imaginary friend can answer most q's. There aint much he doesnt know about weed.
xxkmanxx
01-28-2008, 01:23 AM
weed is nice, but opiates are so much better. cant even compare it.
resorcinol
01-29-2008, 05:13 AM
Whew, been a few days of being clean and I'm still shakey, like I've been frying on dirty LSD for a few days. I'm sure it will be over eventually, I can't tell you how much I'm wanting a nice line of hydromorphone, heh, to calm my nerves from cannabis, how pathetic I am!
I hope that the marijuana experience isn't unmasking latent schizophrenia or psychosis, I'd be sooo screwed then.
I can tell you that I'll never smoke another toke of pot again as long as I live.
And as far as opiates, I'll be clean until I can get my paws on them again, then all bets are off.
Mustelid, the same thing that happened to you happens to me when I overdo it on weed too. I forget that I have no tolerance sometimes when I smoke with people and waayyyy overdo it and get what you got, plus major paranoia.
Now I'm more careful with how much I do. I usually do no more than three tokes and have some booze too, which is wonderful for attenuating paranoia and anxiety.
Mustelid
01-30-2008, 03:44 AM
Mustelid, the same thing that happened to you happens to me when I overdo it on weed too. I forget that I have no tolerance sometimes when I smoke with people and waayyyy overdo it and get what you got, plus major paranoia.
Now I'm more careful with how much I do. I usually do no more than three tokes and have some booze too, which is wonderful for attenuating paranoia and anxiety.
Yeah, since it happened twice, I think it will be easier just to avoid smoking. Cannabis is wonderful for some people, but I think it exacerbates my tendency for panic attacks, even when I'm not high.
Opiates don't have this effect on me. It would sure be nice to have something as safe and easy to kick as marijuana but with the effects of narcotics. Unfortunately in real world, that isn't the case.
WarmCyanide
05-28-2008, 10:20 PM
resurrect.
people like this asshole fucking it up for the rest of us.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D90ULRNG0&show_article=1
Wow I forgot about this one, what the fuck is wrong with me. TY WC
haha something marijuana related I supose, my friend unfortunetly got busted with a pound and managed to get off with a short prohibation sentence. I really thought with that quantity he woulda been fucked. Good tho
underide
05-28-2008, 10:24 PM
Bunch of lazy potheads! :D
Funny the timing of this thread popping up, when I got opaites around weed isn't really on my mind, but I gotta get back to chipping so I am paying for a large binge right now...ouch, but im pounding back the hits now;)
Paregoric Kid
05-29-2008, 03:25 PM
there is an old thread where I give details on how cannabis is a very good opiate potentiator. actually I can't find it right now.
God_Albino
05-29-2008, 04:46 PM
weed flares off my chronic pain more than anything else, one hit will have me on the floor wishing i could tear my insides out.
having to quit smoking meant the end of making art and music, i just got no creativity left without it.
KiloByte
05-31-2008, 04:21 AM
there is an old thread where I give details on how cannabis is a very good opiate potentiator. actually I can't find it right now.
Cannabis is the single best drug both on it's own and for combination purposes. Everything about marijuana is perfect IMO.
I'm deeply sorry to hear about you having to quit God_Albino. Never heard of anyone getting that kind of reaction.
frankie
05-31-2008, 04:31 AM
I believe it, if you got a really good hit... The effects linger on for me too, having the low tolerance and such.
The last time I ate too many cookies, I was tripping for about a day and a half, almost incoherent the first four hours or so after they kicked in...
I want some of what you had, lol, I get the munchies after a good smoke and it also relieves the bad head pain i feel due to the anuyresum i have in my brain...I smoke mj everyday but around these parts it's hard to find something that i am not ;)already immune too...
OxyQueen
05-31-2008, 04:39 AM
I am a true pothead...LOVE IT
Been smoking since i was 12 year old
To me....it has actually helped me kick in the early days of my opiate use.
Now...i get a little anxiety when i smoke that funky shit, i gotta take a benzo with it.
But i smoke just about every day. I would hate to have a job to get piss tested. Most of the guys i know that work for the State DOT,...would prefer to smoke weed but because of their drug tests, they all go with the opiates or coke and booze on the weekends so they will be clean by monday.
and the opies they have scripts for.
It is easy to quit...no w/d to speak of. LOVE IT...it enhances the opiate rush 10X...definitely goes hand in hand.
When i was prego with my last child...i tried everything cuz i puked like 15-20X a day, it was BRUTAL, they tried reglan-which they found out im allergic to, phenergan...zofran(which finally worked beautifully!) But smoking weed was the ONE an only thing that would help me eat. I was just always scared they would test me and call child services. But when it got real bad and i was LOSING weight instead of gaining...smoking was the only dam thing to help
Wonder drug..IMO...works on pain, headaches, cramps in females, PMS, nausea....
I am down to a tiny bit left in my bag...i get it for FREE so i can't complain. I don't go for that crazy hydroponic shit, just regular 'ol bud that hasn't been chemically enhanced cuz THAT SHIT will make ya hallucinate and that isn't "high" to me.
Pot is a close call for me...opiates gotta come first cuz i'll be sick without them, but pot is my true love LOL
;
ahhhhhhh its Sat. morning, i think i'll spark one up as soon as the ol hubby walks out the door for work. Wake and bake
jonny-5
05-31-2008, 04:39 AM
weed was my first love and i will always love it till i die. i dont really smoke when ive been on a long heroin run and my life is in shambles cause it makes me think about how fucked up my life is, but times like now when im doing ok its awesome. i think it has its place just like opiates do. and when i mix some kush with some heroin, i get awesome dreamy nods, its like drug induced schizophrenia or something. but its enjoyable.
i just quit yesterday tho, i was supposed to have quit in march. i never buy it anymore, i just smoke with my homies that i kick it with everyday. i used to smoke an 8th to a 1/4 a day (before opiates came into my life), but my homie got 3 years of probation and drug classes, so hes gotta quit for 3 years, and i am too. i need to for a while anyway if i wanna get a jobie job in the medical field. but man, on may 29 2011 im gonna get FADED as fuck. i havent gone more than 5 months without weed since i started smoking when i was 13 so this should be interesting.
underide
05-31-2008, 04:42 AM
I want some of what you had, lol, I get the munchies after a good smoke and it also relieves the bad head pain i feel due to the anuyresum i have in my brain...I smoke mj everyday but around these parts it's hard to find something that i am not ;)already immune too...
I don't think it has to do with quality, it's just that when you eat MJ it's a whole other game. It's not like smoking at all, it's more like tripping.
We used to crumble hash into yoghurt and get pretty fucked up on that on an average amount. It lasted for ages too.
A buddy of mine baked brownies with it once too and dumped nearly a half ounce of hash into it all, and we were GONE in about 2 hours. Some seriously crazy shit.
Warm Cyanide, a lot of my stoner friends have had good luck with testing negative for cannabis, despite smoking even up to the night before the test by drinking enough water to pee clear, then taking massive vitamin B complex packs to bring color back into it.
Also, don't piss directly in the cup, instead, urinate first, then catch it mid-stream.
I got a free sample of a 'cleansing' pill at Hempfest, and the active ingredient was glycerin! In other words, a scam, those don't do anything, only water and mega-dose b-complex work.
I just wanted to post to say that this is 100% correct. This was tested by both 3 of my friend and me, and we all found that massive water drinking, vitamins for color, and mid-stream starts are the key to beating the test without any special drinks. Once you feel your back start to hurt, it will work for sure with the next bottle of water you run through your system; not sure how good this is for your kidneys?
Anyways, great thread
Later!
RFE
weed was my first love and i will always love it till i die. i dont really smoke when ive been on a long heroin run and my life is in shambles cause it makes me think about how fucked up my life is, but times like now when im doing ok its awesome. i think it has its place just like opiates do. and when i mix some kush with some heroin, i get awesome dreamy nods, its like drug induced schizophrenia or something. but its enjoyable.
i just quit yesterday tho, i was supposed to have quit in march. i never buy it anymore, i just smoke with my homies that i kick it with everyday. i used to smoke an 8th to a 1/4 a day (before opiates came into my life), but my homie got 3 years of probation and drug classes, so hes gotta quit for 3 years, and i am too. i need to for a while anyway if i wanna get a jobie job in the medical field. but man, on may 29 2011 im gonna get FADED as fuck. i havent gone more than 5 months without weed since i started smoking when i was 13 so this should be interesting.
I am the EXACT same way, pot will always have a place in my heart. Shitty that you have to quit tho, I still can't grasp the concept of having to quit to get a job, how stupid are the drug tests...like honestly, lots of smart people smoke weed, how does it impair their ability to work if they toke in the evening or something.
I really feel sorry for you guys....cant get a job cause you have thc in your system...pure bullshit, I couldn\t live in a country like that....let alone drug test you just to get a job, talk about BULLSHIT (rights anyone??????). I like the states and all, but fuck if I would ever live there, BULLSHIT (that word keeps blairing in my head....BULLSHIT.....piss test to get a job, and not getting it over weed, BULLSHIT!)
Good luck with staying off the herb tho...no other option I guess, haha but just wait till u do toke if you have to wait till 2011, holy fuck it will be like the first time again haha. Most of us know what the first time was like ;) CRAZZZZZY~
Keep tokin folks, pot is a beautiful thing. I wonder what an ampoule of thc designed for shooting would be like. I better not hear people saying they tried because you cant shoot dope :D
frankie
06-02-2008, 08:05 AM
i just had a blunt this morning after my fix and the mixture of them both is awesome, i hope that one day mj is legalized for cp patients as it does do wonders for head pain and nausea, THC is a beautiful thing...:)
i just had a blunt this morning after my fix and the mixture of them both is awesome, i hope that one day mj is legalized for cp patients as it does do wonders for head pain and nausea, THC is a beautiful thing...:)
Hell ya! ;)
WarmCyanide
06-02-2008, 09:47 AM
i just had a blunt this morning after my fix and the mixture of them both is awesome, i hope that one day mj is legalized for cp patients as it does do wonders for head pain and nausea, THC is a beautiful thing...:)
marinol is legal. it'd suck to have to smoke it for lung cancer pain. enter: brownies!
marinol is legal. it'd suck to have to smoke it for lung cancer pain. enter: brownies!
have you tried marinol bro? Is it any good for kicks and giggles?
I just wanted to post to say that this is 100% correct. This was tested by both 3 of my friend and me, and we all found that massive water drinking, vitamins for color, and mid-stream starts are the key to beating the test without any special drinks. Once you feel your back start to hurt, it will work for sure with the next bottle of water you run through your system; not sure how good this is for your kidneys?
Anyways, great thread
Later!
RFE
Careful with the water... that can lead to water intoxication, which could be fatal. Too much water at one time causes you to lose electrolytes... your body has to maintain a certain level to function. Probably not too common, but still...
And btw, I passed a test one time by accident. I was smoking daily, and had just started a new job. Me and another guy had a random test (the company was new) and I had to go take it immediately with no time to prepare, smoking the night before. I'm convinced the only reason I passed is how much water I was drinking. I ran 8-10 miles/day, and drank water constantly every day. The combo of both exercise/water could help tremendously I guess... never knew why.
i just quit yesterday tho, i was supposed to have quit in march. i never buy it anymore, i just smoke with my homies that i kick it with everyday.
I hear ya man... I stopped too. My brain gets too cloudy after too much. Too bad, the last bit I smoked was some NL (not sure exact, but it was awesome) which I haven't come across in a while. Last stuff I had that good was in Amsterdam. Only makes stopping that much worse!
marinol is legal. it'd suck to have to smoke it for lung cancer pain. enter: brownies!
Brownies are okay, but I always found if you ate the brownies at first, you couldn't eat em after when the munchies came on. WAY more enjoyable after the fact :p
WOS
have you tried marinol bro? Is it any good for kicks and giggles?
I have tried it, works for its intended purposes, but recreationally I got nothing out of it.
I have tried it, works for its intended purposes, but recreationally I got nothing out of it.
Thanks Nate,I'll cross marinol off the to do list.
starglazer33
06-02-2008, 11:46 AM
"I love you sweet leaf" -Black Sabbath
I enjoy marinol however, I believe mj was engineered by an Indian god specifically for smoking.:D
(sord of just kidding.)
The marinol worked for me recreationally but had to take a bunch.Nothing to write about. It took a lil' over an hour before it hit but smoking is and ever shall be the proper route of administration.
W/out my sweet leaf I would never even know that I took my m.done save for the fact that I'm not sick.:(
LEGALIZE IT!! and godzbless Peter Tosh!!!
SurfRat
06-02-2008, 01:22 PM
i just had a blunt this morning after my fix and the mixture of them both is awesome, i hope that one day mj is legalized for cp patients as it does do wonders for head pain and nausea, THC is a beautiful thing...:)
They don't have Prescription Marijuana in NY?
underide
06-02-2008, 01:43 PM
marinol is legal. it'd suck to have to smoke it for lung cancer pain. enter: brownies!
I have heard that marinol sucks for recreation.
Some people that take it report some awful side-effects and not a particularly pleasant overall experience, far from that of smoking a joint or two.
I believe it does work for whatever it's prescribed for, though. I thought it was taken off the market a while ago. Or maybe it's just very scarcely prescribed :confused:
pain-pateint
06-03-2008, 09:19 AM
I find Marinol useful for the pain and nausea credited to my chronic pancreatitis, and it also helps me keep my appetite up, which is hard for me because of the belly pain. It's REALLY useful on a transcontinental flight or other situation where no smoking is permitted (like when I am in Court or meeting with a client).
In Michigan, we will vote on medical mj this November. We have passed local ordinances, which are largely symbolic, in Detroit, Ann Arbor, Ferndale, Traverse City, and Flint, and these successes enticed the Marijuana Policy Project (MPP) in Washington to fund this statewide initiative (it cost $1 million for the signatures to qualify for the ballot). In the process, however, we have been blessed that several of our volunteers have realized they are politically empowered, and this Fall we will have an actual, publicly acknowledged medical my patient run for seat in the State of Michigan House of Representatives! I myself have put thousands of hours into these efforts, but the best feeling I have about the work is based on so many of our volunteers realizing their political potential.
I find Marinol useful for the pain and nausea credited to my chronic pancreatitis, and it also helps me keep my appetite up, which is hard for me because of the belly pain. It's REALLY useful on a transcontinental flight or other situation where no smoking is permitted (like when I am in Court or meeting with a client).
In Michigan, we will vote on medical mj this November. We have passed local ordinances, which are largely symbolic, in Detroit, Ann Arbor, Ferndale, Traverse City, and Flint, and these successes enticed the Marijuana Policy Project (MPP) in Washington to fund this statewide initiative (it cost $1 million for the signatures to qualify for the ballot). In the process, however, we have been blessed that several of our volunteers have realized they are politically empowered, and this Fall we will have an actual, publicly acknowledged medical my patient run for seat in the State of Michigan House of Representatives! I myself have put thousands of hours into these efforts, but the best feeling I have about the work is based on so many of our volunteers realizing their political potential.
Good stuff and way to go man.It gives you real hope when folks feel empowered and challenge the dumbness that is the law.
Oh and have you guys tried the DPA for advice and support?This is the sort of thing they're interested in and they are pretty well funded.
Wretched and Wicked
06-03-2008, 03:53 PM
LOVE the weed! It is a big help with pain issues and like Nate said, it is best muscle relaxer. I would love to light one with you Nate. Anyway, back on track....I also agree with NV 12 that it is awesome for migraines. I get crippling ones that can last for days and it is great for helping. I love snorting a big line of oxy and smoking a joint. Damn that sounds good.....I knows what I gonna do now!!!!
irish
06-03-2008, 06:16 PM
I got a script for "sativex" a while ago which is basically sublingual weed spray, but the script cost $589 to fill, which I can't afford. So now I am applying for a license to grow and smoke weed legally for my pain. I was never a big pot-head, but if it works for the pain, I'll do just about anything.
Wretched and Wicked
06-03-2008, 06:21 PM
I got a script for "sativex" a while ago which is basically sublingual weed spray, but the script cost $589 to fill, which I can't afford. So now I am applying for a license to grow and smoke weed legally for my pain. I was never a big pot-head, but if it works for the pain, I'll do just about anything.
I have a green thumb. Here's the plan....I help you grow it. Just share a little with your "landscaper"! :D:D
I got a script for "sativex" a while ago which is basically sublingual weed spray, but the script cost $589 to fill, which I can't afford. So now I am applying for a license to grow and smoke weed legally for my pain. I was never a big pot-head, but if it works for the pain, I'll do just about anything.
Good luck with that bro, I do have a friend scripted to grow and smoke for pain.
Would like that joint too Wretched ;)
irish
06-03-2008, 08:09 PM
I just got all the paperwork. It's a lot of pages, but surprisingly little to fill out. I have to send them a picture, so I guess I'm gonna get a card. That'll be kinda cool. "No officer I am NOT under arrest for having this pound of bud (shows license), have a good day now." lol.
yep you get a damn cool card, one day I hope to get my face on that card.
Yes officer the weed is mine, heres my card. :)
Maybe start a religion and claim that weed is part of your religious rituals.There's a guy in Idaho charged with supplying 10gs and that's his defence.
pain-pateint
06-05-2008, 11:01 AM
My buddy Matt, who markets himself as "Cannabis Counsel" likes to try the religious defense, and has had, as we all predicted, 0% success so far. But I admire his persistence, and eventually, maybe an appellate court will address claims under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (the one that lets the sects of the Catholic Church -- Church Societe de Vegetal or something like that -- to use ahausca (sp? - it an exactly my choice for a hallucinagen).
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