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stringbeanjeans
01-22-2008, 04:18 PM
Wow.


I can't believe he's dead. They found his body surrounded by pills this afternoon. This completely bums me me out. RIP Heath.

It's all over the headlines.
http://www.tmz.com/

GoddessofRATs
01-22-2008, 04:21 PM
OMG WHAT?????? no way. Holly shit. I gotta go put the news on.

GOR

poonwhalla
01-22-2008, 04:22 PM
that is a bummer. that sucks to hear RIP

Princess
01-22-2008, 04:25 PM
Wow.

I can't believe he's dead. They found his body surrounded by pills this afternoon. This completely bums me me out. RIP Heath.

It's all over the headlines.
http://www.tmz.com/

I couldn't believe it when I first heard. Damn, I feel bad for his 2 year old. Very sad.

R.I.P. Heath

GoddessofRATs
01-22-2008, 04:30 PM
This is so sad. I loved him in Brokeback mountain and he is playing the Joker in the next batman, which he did finish filming. Another young actor stolen from the world.

This always happens in 3's, first Brad Renfoe and now Heath. I hate to think someone else will pass but it's always in 3's, isn't that odd.

RIP Heath.

GOR

Chicago
01-22-2008, 04:32 PM
BET, in a few days we will find out it was a opiate od, when this is confirmed b/c I do not want to open my mouth & find out I'm wrong, but a lil 411 on this.
When they were in Chicago filiming Batman, one of my boys was watching & met Ledger, my boy is not the most trusting person but had told me when him & his lady had met him, my boys lady said hurry up so so b/c I will be late to my mmt clinic, my boy had said that when K.L. heard this he asked some questions about opiates in the Chicago area.
Like I said it's funny he brought this up about a year ago about the opiates & K.L. then hearing this 1 yr later, so maybe there was some truth to this or not?
I guess we just gonna see. But it happens to be a quinkidink that I blew off when heard a yr ago, then BOOM, ALL OVER THE NEWS, BUT LETS WAIT TO SEE IF IT WAS OPIATES.
tRYING TO GET A HOLD OF MY BOY BUT NO LUCK YET TO CONFIRM WHAT WAS SAID IN DETAIL, SO TILL THEN. NOW like I said this was 4rm a not 100% reliable buddy at the time, but now this comes up, so it just crossed my mind to share.:rolleyes:

supa325
01-22-2008, 04:44 PM
Man, those fundamentalists were right.

I once heard a rumor from a Jesus freak, that if you were to star in Brokeback Mountain, you can die.

Holy shit.

GoddessofRATs
01-22-2008, 04:45 PM
I'm not sure i understand you. Heath hasked your 'boy' about Opiates, r he asked for Opiates???????

GOR



Answer me this. How come our pain doctors can get our toxicology/UA's back in a few days but with an Autopsy it takes like 6 weeks????

Do they do something different? Do they brake it down more. Is it more complex than the test we get at our pain docs?

It's always like when a celeb dies they can do the Autopsy right away and they usually give a preliminary cause of death but that the Toxicology will take 6 weeks. I just don't get this. In this day in age it takes 6 WEEKS? This is something that should be able to be done in a few hours.

GOR

Duckfeet
01-22-2008, 04:53 PM
What a bummer: I had just come from scoring some H, so my own "kicking" fell by the wayside today, like it always does, and then I heard this on the radio, and was all bummed out: I had gotten him mixed up w/the other young Aussie, I like, Guy Pearce, who was in The Proposition, but...still...he had it all, living in a nice apt in Soho, fame and fortune and youth...I never saw Brokeback, but I've seen the Patriot and other flicks he was in....and yet, drugs always trump all the other stuff....so sad, really...nothing to be learned, tho I'm sure people will come up w/all kinds of lessons we're supposed to learn from this...just a sad motherfucker, like Elvis....and John Belushi and Marylyn and Hank Williams Sr...and Jr, to a point...oh well, life in the fast lane....

Chicago
01-22-2008, 05:01 PM
This buddy of mine is a talker, said to me one day he was downtown watching them film Batman, while he & his lady were waiting for there mmt clinic to open back up from lunch.
They had met K.L. & his lady did not give a fuck about K.L. but my buddy being into them Batman movies wanted to watch the lil bit of filming.
So when K.L. was done shooting he started to sign pics, my boy just wanted a hand shake, his lady high w/a nod look to her said to my buddy "HURRY UP B4 THE METH CLINIC CLOSES"
So my buddy & I are at the bar watching the news & like NO big deal says Hey Chi, I was out there 2day & met him waiting for my meth clinic to come back from lunch.
So my buddy like nothing, says to me like if I care great if I don't oh well, Chi K.L. asked me how the opiate scene is here in Chicago, I was like whatever, u just bogus, b/c that story was far fetched, so I did not ask any questions about any detail, only from what I have posted.
Then 2 day 1 yr later from when I was told this found out K.L. is dead found w/some pills next to him found by his house keeper telling him his someone is here, found him dead.
Like I said at the time I passed it off as my buddy just being the bogus guy that he is and only brought it up b/c it was near his clinic & it popped up on the news when having a drink.
So when I saw this 2day on the news I put them 2 things together, K.L. Dead on the news w/pills near him, then my boy telling me a CRAZY STORY about K.L. when they met, but I was told this story 1yr ago, not 2day.So when seeing this I was like just maybe my boy was not on bullshit that day?
I been calling my boy to get some more details, BUT NO LUCK.
LETS JUST SEE IF IT WAS AN OPIATE OVERDOSE?:(

I'm not sure i understand you. Heath hasked your 'boy' about Opiates, r he asked for Opiates???????

GOR

stringbeanjeans
01-22-2008, 05:04 PM
If anyone one has a copy of Heath's movie, "Candy" they should watch it tonight. Seems fitting. I think it's the only dope movie he made. Pretty enjoyable if not anything new for the genre.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424880/

Initial reports suggest that the pills around his body were prescription sleeping meds, but I'm sure we'll all find out in a few weeks.

Chicago
01-22-2008, 05:04 PM
IS THIS NOT 2 ACTORS IN LESS THEN 3DAYS, BRAD RENFRO & KEITH LEDGER?
LETS SEE IF THEY BOTH OPIATE RELATED, WAS BRADS A OPIATE RELATED?

GoddessofRATs
01-22-2008, 05:11 PM
He was making a movie about addicts, that could be why he asked you that but who knows. One person on the news said hey may just have had Jet-Lag and took to many over-the-counter sleeping pills. The sleeping pills they found were not prescription they were OTC.

Only time will tell i guess.

GOR

Chicago
01-22-2008, 05:22 PM
Not asking me...Never seen the guy b4, but this story I said was just popped in my head from something told to me a yaer ago, by someone who is not on his game but then seeing this 1yr later was like WOW, JUST MAYBE,WHO REALLY NO'S, THE PRESS WILL NEVER GIVE OUT THE REALLY INFO FOR A LONG TIME.
Example, look at Anna Nicole Smith, we all knew she od'd on opiate's but it took them months to confirm for a fact that opiates were in her body, & did they even confirm she od'd on opiate's, If I recall I don't they did, just said that she was rx'd opiates & took them as is, but she was never confirmed of a 100% od on op's.

He was making a movie about addicts, that could be why he asked you that but who knows. One person on the news said hey may just have had Jet-Lag and took to many over-the-counter sleeping pills. The sleeping pills they found were not prescription they were OTC.

Only time will tell i guess.

GOR

stringbeanjeans
01-22-2008, 05:31 PM
Now they're reporting that Heath had pneumonia. Could it just be that?

GoddessofRATs
01-22-2008, 05:54 PM
Ya never know. People can die from Pneumnia. It wouldn't shock me.

GOR

Duckfeet
01-22-2008, 06:37 PM
Just saw yer latest avatar, Goddess...tragic beauty: good foto...I think it's cool, when we can, to post a picture...and I agree on the pneumonia, and think that if u have it, and are drug prone *anyway...*

He was making a movie about addicts, that could be why he asked you that but who knows. One person on the news said hey may just have had Jet-Lag and took to many over-the-counter sleeping pills. The sleeping pills they found were not prescription they were OTC.

Only time will tell i guess.

GOR

GoddessofRATs
01-22-2008, 06:58 PM
'Tragic Beauty', LOL, i like that.

Thank you Duckie, glad you like it :) that was the same pic i submitted for the Girls of Opiophile Calender.

GOR

slugbone
01-22-2008, 07:01 PM
reminds me of the Alice in Chains song Would? about andrew wood from Mother Love Bone and an accidental overdose that cost him his life.

the line in the song is: "So I made a big mistake, try and see it once my way"

any one of us could fuck up tomorrow and take too much of our DOC, you know?

Duckfeet
01-22-2008, 07:02 PM
I *thought* it looked familiar: hey on west coast time, right now, just started, Larry King doing special on Heath L.

'Tragic Beauty', LOL, i like that.

Thank you Duckie, glad you like it :) that was the same pic i submitted for the Girls of Opiophile Calender.

GOR

southernbelle
01-22-2008, 07:11 PM
WHY, GODDESS, WHY????

GoddessofRATs
01-22-2008, 07:13 PM
I'm gonna put Larry on now. Thanks Duckie

GOR

scarlettt
01-22-2008, 07:15 PM
If anyone one has a copy of Heath's movie, "Candy" they should watch it tonight. Seems fitting. I think it's the only dope movie he made. Pretty enjoyable if not anything new for the genre.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424880/

Initial reports suggest that the pills around his body were prescription sleeping meds, but I'm sure we'll all find out in a few weeks.


I've seen Candy. It was pretty good.
I've also heard the reports that all that he was on was sleeping pills, but I don't believe it. I just feel really bad for his kid.

pizzaboy
01-22-2008, 07:41 PM
If anyone one has a copy of Heath's movie, "Candy" they should watch it tonight. Seems fitting. I think it's the only dope movie he made. Pretty enjoyable if not anything new for the genre.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424880/

Initial reports suggest that the pills around his body were prescription sleeping meds, but I'm sure we'll all find out in a few weeks.


I read the book and saw the movie...the book was much better.

Fuck, I just learned this here...I thought it was a joke. I was a fan. RIP.

chopstix
01-22-2008, 09:05 PM
reminds me of the Alice in Chains song Would? about andrew wood from Mother Love Bone and an accidental overdose that cost him his life.

the line in the song is: "So I made a big mistake, try and see it once my way"

any one of us could fuck up tomorrow and take too much of our DOC, you know?

I don't know who either of those actors were, Brad or Heath, RIP though, sucks when talent dies so young..

I do know about Andy Wood though. My friend went to HS with him and I knew the guy that sold him his od, he used to ride a purple GSXR and wear purple leathers to the methadone clinic on the hill in Seattle, I also used to run around with a bunch people that knew him (Andy).. I never saw a show tho 'cause I was too busy being a junky, but I was obsessed with MLB for a long time. Andy was clean for 4mos and then decided to get high, he put 1/4g in the spoon and Xana found him blue a few hours later - the dope was stronger back then. Sad.. He didn't know about tolerance, he hadn't been using very long..

Andy Wood was an amazingly unique artist. You can't replace talent like that.. Amazing lyricist.. Apple was a masterpiece..

Where would I live, if I were a man of golden words?
or would I live... at all?
-Andrew Wood

Nate
01-23-2008, 01:02 PM
Tis a shame, he actually wasn't too bad of an actor.

WarmCyanide
01-23-2008, 05:24 PM
just heard a news report of a rolled up 20 dollar bill in his room. i bet they'll find H residue. i think he had a history of that.

tui
01-23-2008, 05:28 PM
^^
hey wc!

i saw a recent interview with him on youtube- and he looked more like he was on coke or something, some restless and hyper body movements...

poor heath. always seemed like a good, genuine person. way too young to die.

t

edhorfin
01-23-2008, 05:29 PM
theres way too much chatter about him having an H habit...I'd bet dollars to donuts this was an H related loss. I don't think he was IV'ing, though, no reports about needles found. They did apparently find currency rolled up tubelike with residue on it. I guess he OD's snorting? maybe had his tolerance down and did his usual dose, happened to have stronger shit, and down you go. I've had lots of friends go down, just like that, only IV'ing, not snorting.

Too bad. great looking kid, good actor, hopefully he had some cash put away so his kid can benefit from his success. I can't remember any of his movies that I hated. I think I liked pretty much all of them. Too young.

Chicago
01-23-2008, 05:36 PM
I no many people at when I 1rst started doing heroin died of a heroin od, by just snorting, it really matters where or what stage you are at in your heroin use, don't you think, b/c have seen people tired as hell from not sleeping snorted up about 2 bags up, then would not wake up?
I also no alot of od's from iv'ng as same as snorting, heroin is heroin.
Just like when I went to my 1rst mmt clinic the Dr. told me that all heroin w/d is the same, but differ's in some people, but what he said allways made alot of sense to me, which was if you shoot 1 gram of heroin or shoot 1 gram of heroin you still have 1 gram of heroin in your body, RIGHT OR WRONG?:rolleyes:

WarmCyanide
01-23-2008, 06:09 PM
^^
hey wc!

i saw a recent interview with him on youtube- and he looked more like he was on coke or something, some restless and hyper body movements...

poor heath. always seemed like a good, genuine person. way too young to die.

t


reminds me of the John Frusciante interview when he was on H.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1979448559706741322&q=john+frusciante&total=4399&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3

chrisinabox
01-23-2008, 07:23 PM
i just read on the internet that they tested the rolled up 20 dollar bill and there was NO drug residue on it. that seems really weird.

Boudica
01-23-2008, 07:47 PM
This is making me incredibly sick in my heart. He was so beautiful. I shall do ceremony to his spirit, wherever it may fly, and still dream my fantasy dreams of him, next to me in my bed. What a sadness, I feel. What a sadness, for those who were close, and loved him deeply. And I detest smutty, disrespectful "rumours", that seem to pour like cheap beer, from the mouths of the gossipers and ingrates who will make money from the loss of this beautiful young man, without thought nor care for the adding of sorrow they will put upon his beloved ones.

I pray you rest peacefully, sweet and dear man.

Blessed Be.

WarmCyanide
01-23-2008, 07:55 PM
i just read on the internet that they tested the rolled up 20 dollar bill and there was NO drug residue on it. that seems really weird.


you are correct. the source was the NYPD for whatever thats worth. maybe he took a bunch of pills

and was in the act of getting some rails ready and th... ah fuck it. i'm speculating. sad story. RIP Heath.

Ron-Doe
01-23-2008, 08:18 PM
benzo's and "europeon" prescriptions were found next to the $20bill

mmnyc9
01-23-2008, 09:02 PM
It's really to bad but truth be told if you play you gotta know you might pay. That said it really is to early to tell I mean the family might know something today, results from a Tox test take minutes not weeks. So if he had Opiates in him they already know , if he had Benzos or whatever the results are in. The M.E can speculate, a little. It's the toxicity levals that take some time to figure out. Still maybe he hasn't used in a long time decided to take a little Vacatition, treat himself turned out to be real pure thats it, your out. Maybe it wasn't even Drugs. What I find interesting is the media follows these guys like crazy what was he doing the last 24 hours of his lfe, who was he with? did the doorman see anyone with him, thats the thing about the city most people famous or whatever can put on a hat get in a cab and blend in.

kyuss
01-23-2008, 09:19 PM
Man, those fundamentalists were right.

I once heard a rumor from a Jesus freak, that if you were to star in Brokeback Mountain, you can die.

Holy shit.

Fuck that shit,
they also said
the rapture would occur
in nineteen eighty-five.
R.I.P. Heath.

WarmCyanide
01-23-2008, 09:57 PM
Fuck that shit,
they also said
the rapture would occur
in nineteen eighty-five.



right. just like the global cooling scare in the 1970s.

underide
01-24-2008, 12:33 AM
reminds me of the John Frusciante interview when he was on H.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1979448559706741322&q=john+frusciante&total=4399&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=3

I remember seeing part of that interview when i was about 15-16, and saying to myself " Fuck this - I'm never gonna do heroin"..
But then within a couple of years i had to eat my own words.

It really is quite amazing that he's off the shit now. I would've thought he was never coming back
He did look a bit like young Keith Richards in that interview though..

EleusisII
01-24-2008, 01:03 AM
Chicago: There wasn't methadone involved with Anna Nicole Smith's death. Cause of death was infection, and an overdose of Chloral Hydrate...

And regarding Heath: They found bottles of Ativan, Valium, Xanax, Restoril and Sonata... Poor dude had sleeping problems.
None of the above will kill you by itself, doubtful they'd even kill you if taken together, so there was probably some opies involved somewhere.

He had pneumonia too though, so I guess a hefty dose of benzos combined with that can off you.

tui
01-24-2008, 02:12 AM
Man, those fundamentalists were right.
I once heard a rumor from a Jesus freak, that if you were to star in Brokeback Mountain, you can die.
Holy shit.
Yeah, apparently some militant christians (with the website www.godhatesfags.com !!!) are planning to picket his funeral because he played a gay guy in brokeback mountain. How effed up is that. sick. I mean, um... he was ACTING for one thing... and even if he was gay, big fucking deal!

Boudica you are so right- the papparazzi are scum. It makes me so glad to be a nobody. You'd have to medicate yourself just to get through the day. They just love to build people up and then tear them on down. Vulture-like.

t

southernbelle
01-24-2008, 07:25 AM
Those people are morons. ^^^ (the so-called christians, not Tui!) Do they really think that Jesus would approve? Poor Heath. I feel so sorry for his family too. R.I.P.

CIIORNOTHING
01-24-2008, 08:06 AM
Boudica,
So you knew this dude? Wow, that is too cool !! Im sorry for your loss though. Sounds like he had a lot on him all at once.


And regarding that cult, there is nothign Christian or religous about them. They are a cult, a bunch of evil hurtful idiots, and nothing more.

CIIORNOTHING
01-24-2008, 08:07 AM
Chicago: There wasn't methadone involved with Anna Nicole Smith's death. Cause of death was infection, and an overdose of Chloral Hydrate...

And regarding Heath: They found bottles of Ativan, Valium, Xanax, Restoril and Sonata... Poor dude had sleeping problems.
None of the above will kill you by itself, doubtful they'd even kill you if taken together, so there was probably some opies involved somewhere.

He had pneumonia too though, so I guess a hefty dose of benzos combined with that can off you.


Wasnt it methdone that killed her son Daniel? Or at least helped anyway? ANd I beleive methadone was found in her system, just not at lethal levels.

Princess
01-24-2008, 03:04 PM
Wasnt it methdone that killed her son Daniel? Or at least helped anyway? ANd I beleive methadone was found in her system, just not at lethal levels.

Methadone, Zoloft & Lexapro killed Daniel Smith. The methadone did not come from Anna or her "stash". She used liquid 'done and pills were what Daniel took.

Anna actually died from "combined drug intoxification" (that was the offical cause of death). All meds in her system were within therapeutical levels with the exception of the chloral hydrate, it was a little high, but not lethal. Methadone was found in her bile but hadn't been taken in the last few days prior to her death.

Duckfeet
01-25-2008, 02:54 PM
I keep reading up on it, and the more I read, the more I feel for Brad Renfro, who really was "one of us," without a doubt, and all his friends described him as a sad, troubled man. So RIP Heath, but I hope we spare a moment for Brad too, who sounds like he was fucked from jump street...and never could escape...I guess getting a little fame and fortune, doesn't really change things if the dragon's gottcha... from Elvis to John Belushi to Brand Renfro, seems like a junky's life is sadly predictable, and that nothing is tough enough, not fame, fortune or god...none of'em seem to be that tuff....Heath I'm really starting to think was just terrible bad luck, maybe too many sleeping pills...while Brad, it was just a matter of time....

modega
01-27-2008, 04:20 AM
It is a shame he died, I am kind of curious to see how his autopsy turns out. From what I've read it seems like a horrible tragic accident. I really feel for his family now.

GoddessofRATs
01-27-2008, 11:40 AM
Yup Duckie... having Money and fame doesn't get rid of the troubles in some people. I'm sure if i were rich and famous I'd still want my pills. Being rich helps but it doesn't get rid of the troubles inside of us.

Have they come out with the toxiclogy reports for Brad Renfoe yet? I'll look on line.

It's kinda sad that Brad isn't getting the same attention that Heath is getting, but he wasn't as famous as heath but shit Brad had been acting since he was a kid. Actually he wasn't even an actor when he got that role in the Client. He was just a kid that seemed right for the role.

Poor kid, he obviously had some troubles. And he does sound like 'One of us'

GOR

I keep reading up on it, and the more I read, the more I feel for Brad Renfro, who really was "one of us," without a doubt, and all his friends described him as a sad, troubled man. So RIP Heath, but I hope we spare a moment for Brad too, who sounds like he was fucked from jump street...and never could escape...I guess getting a little fame and fortune, doesn't really change things if the dragon's gottcha... from Elvis to John Belushi to Brand Renfro, seems like a junky's life is sadly predictable, and that nothing is tough enough, not fame, fortune or god...none of'em seem to be that tuff....Heath I'm really starting to think was just terrible bad luck, maybe too many sleeping pills...while Brad, it was just a matter of time....

Chipper
01-27-2008, 02:34 PM
Having recently had pneumonia, I can only ask "Why wasn't he being treated for it?" and "why wasn't he is hospital?"

nick
01-27-2008, 02:43 PM
Poor guy,a good actor but terrible movie star.killed by fame and celebrity culture.He'd probably still be alive if he'd become a plumber and did a bit of amateur dramatics in his spare time.

Diazapam,alparazolam,ambien,donormly and zopiclone were all found in his apartment.Don't know what was found in Heath yet.

chopstix
01-27-2008, 03:10 PM
And regarding Heath: They found bottles of Ativan, Valium, Xanax, Restoril and Sonata... Poor dude had sleeping problems.
None of the above will kill you by itself, doubtful they'd even kill you if taken together, so there was probably some opies involved somewhere.


...or any other depressant; cold medicine can potentiate benzos - a couple shots of vodka makes a big difference if you're full of pills.. Let alone hydro or oxy or H - maybe he did the last of his stash and that's why they haven't found it..

I have chronic, debilitating insomnia and some nights it doesn't matter what I take - if my doctors knew my real tolerances and regular medicating habits, they'd shit.. Many, many nights my blood would have killed someone else..

I think some peoples breathing instinct is just stronger. Some people OD really easy and some people just keep on tickin'..

scarlettt
01-27-2008, 03:50 PM
Having recently had pneumonia, I can only ask "Why wasn't he being treated for it?" and "why wasn't he is hospital?"


maybe he did the last of his stash and that's why they haven't found it..



There are lots of strange things about this poor guys passing. Alot of it doesn't make any sense at all.

I heard that one of the reasons that the first calls made out were not to 911 or Police, but were to another actress (one of the Olsen twins - whom he was friends with) were so that some of her personal security could help "manage" the situation. In other words, help remove any incriminating stuff which would exasterbate an already horrible situation. Some are saying that they were the ones who really got rid of his stash.

^^Who knows if this is true though? While it can be verified that the first calls were made to the actress, and that her some of her personal security team was there, even after the cops arrived, maybe they were just called as a precaution?

But, why would your first call be to an actress who isn't even in NYC at the time... when you just walked in and found someone dead? And why would she send her team of people over to "manage" things? If nothing needed covering up, I would think getting the ambulance there would be the masseuses first instinct.

As far as the pnemonia thing... maybe that was released as some sort of propaganda? I don't know... but I do believe it happens all the time, just as much in celebrity news as in real world news. Kinda like saying *enter latest celebrity name here* was admitted to the E.R. for "exhaustion".

Maybe I'm off base though. Either way, he's gone. And it's very sad about him (and Brad Renfro too). I hope they both are at peace now.

NV12
01-27-2008, 05:54 PM
=PTO Mom;227197]Methadone, Zoloft & Lexapro killed Daniel Smith. The methadone did not come from Anna or her "stash". She used liquid 'done and pills were what Daniel took.

Maybe so, but who do you think the son got his from??? I'd be willing to bet that the same doctor prescribed it. Only a matter of time... I'm surpised this doesn't happen more in Hollywood. Sad really. That whole ANS situation was just a cluster... who really knows.

Wasn't there reports of Heath doing alot of coke leading up to his death?

Boudica
01-27-2008, 11:44 PM
Boudica,
So you knew this dude? Wow, that is too cool !! Im sorry for your loss though. Sounds like he had a lot on him all at once.


And regarding that cult, there is nothign Christian or religous about them. They are a cult, a bunch of evil hurtful idiots, and nothing more.


Just setting straight the record, dear C2. No, I did not know him, except through his grand works, and as an incredibly delicious fantasy-man. What firey-blooded female who likes lads (and those of us who like everyone else, too) would not dream of a long, long lovemaking with this astoundingly beautiful male. I mean, he just oozed charisma and raw sex appeal, and I don't care which side o' the fence he was portraying at the time. Casanova? God....I'd have luved to be Sienna Miller during the filming of that film.

Most actors who are looked upon as gorgeous, as in the Brad Pitt catagory, still did not encompass the amazing sex appeal that Heath did. And I think it came from the essence of his earthiness, and not being all blown-away with himself, mixed in with that raw physical handsomeness, that made him so magical. He just was very much his own man, from what I saw of him, and that is what attracted me so strongly to him.

What a loss. And for these so-called "Christians"? I do not believe for one nanosecond that the man called Jesus Christ was anything near what these perversions of religion show themselves to be. Personally, I believe they would have made him sick. He taught the power of unconditional love, and that the pathway to the "truth"- was within one's own heart. I see not one bit of this coming from these psychotic, judgemental, power-mad excuses for humans. Trust me, THEY shall not rest in peace. How can they, after creating so much unnecessary, hurtful chaos.

I do not believe that death is an ending, but a transition. May your transition be a soft, easy one, with your being permeated by the light of pure love, Heath. Shine on, brother.

xxkmanxx
01-27-2008, 11:48 PM
this is very sad. He was a great actor. I liked his movies.

Princess
02-06-2008, 08:33 AM
Results just in: Prescription Drug Overdose.

I'm shocked.


Wait, no I'm not.
Very sad.

Tea Time
02-06-2008, 09:36 AM
Looks like Chicago and Chopstix and everyone else was right: He was an opiate user. I don't know if anyone else saw this yet or not, but the toxicology report came back. He died of an overdose of Oxycodone (Oxycontin), hydrocodone (vicondin), diazepam (valium), alprazolam (xanax), temazepam (restoril), and doxylamine (unisom). They didn't realease the concentrations, but you would expect them to be fairly high. It also seems that he probably had snorted the oxy as they found a rolled up $20 bill in the apartment. They said that they didn't find drug residue on it, but come on...what else is a rolled up $20 bill used for? It's sad, no doubt about it. Whether someone is famous or not, it is still a horrible tragedy that their life is cut short by an accidental overdose.

http://news.aol.com/entertainment/movies/movie-news-story/ar/_a/ledgers-death-an-accidental-overdose/20080206102509990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001


Ledger's Death an Accidental Overdose


AP
Posted: 2008-02-06 10:54:50
Filed Under: Movie News (http://movies.aol.com/news/main)

NEW YORK (Feb. 6) - Heath Ledger died of an accidental overdose of painkillers, sleeping pills, anti-anxiety medication and other prescription drugs, the New York City medical examiner said Wednesday.

The New York City medical examiner's office has ruled that Heath Ledger death was caused by "acute intoxication by the combined effects of oxycodone, hydrocodone, diazepam, temazepam, alprazolam, and doxylamine." Five other medications were found in the actor's apartment by the NYPD.

The cause of death was "acute intoxication by the combined effects of oxycodone, hydrocodone, diazepam, temazepam, alprazolam and doxylamine," spokeswoman Ellen Borakove said in a statement.

The drugs are the generic names for the painkiller OxyContin, the anti-anxiety drugs Valium and Xanax, and the sleep aids Restoril and Unisom. Hydrocodone is a widely used prescription painkiller.

Borakove wouldn't say what concentrations of each drug were found in Ledger's blood, or whether one drug played a greater part than another in causing his death.

"What you're looking at here is the cumulative effects of these medications together," she said.

The ruling comes two weeks after the 28-year-old Australian-born actor was found dead in the bed of his rented SoHo apartment. Police found bottles of six types of prescription drugs, including sleeping pills and anti-anxiety medication, in his bedroom and bathroom.

Ledger was discovered by his masseuse on Jan. 22 after she arrived for an appointment that afternoon. She entered his bedroom to set up for the massage and found him unresponsive, and proceeded to call Mary-Kate Olsen three times over the next 9 minutes before dialing 911. Ledger had been dead for some time, and police say no foul play occurred.

Ledger, nominated for an Oscar for his role in "Brokeback Mountain," had returned to New York from London days before his death, where he had been filming a $30 million Terry Gilliam film. He said in a November interview that his most recent completed roles in the Batman movie "The Dark Night" and Bob Dylan biopic "I'm Not There" had taken a toll, saying he couldn't sleep.


"Last week I probably slept an average of two hours a night," Ledger told The New York Times. "I couldn't stop thinking. My body was exhausted, and my mind was still going." He said he had taken two Ambien pills, which only gave him an hour of sleep.

Ledger's family returned to the actor's hometown of Perth, Australia on Tuesday to prepare for his funeral. Arrangements were private.

In a statement released through Ledger's publicist, Ledger's father, Kim, said Wednesday: "While no medications were taken in excess, we learned today the combination of doctor-prescribed drugs proved lethal for our boy. Heath's accidental death serves as a caution to the hidden dangers of combining prescription medication, even at low dosage."

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press.


2008-02-06 10:25:26

OxiContinKing
02-06-2008, 09:43 AM
They are calling it an accident to save face.

I mean, dont get me wrong, it more than likley was an accident, but I bet my life savings and my stash that he wasnt taking his med's the way he was prescribed...

Who does?

Princess
02-06-2008, 09:47 AM
They are calling it an accident to save face.

I mean, dont get me wrong, it more than likley was an accident, but I bet my life savings and my stash that he wasnt taking his med's the way he was prescribed...

Who does?

Accident just means that it wasn't suicide and he wasn't murdered...

If I drop on refill day, it would be an accident... I'm not suicidal and though sometimes I think it is a possibility, I don't think my ex would murder me. But a lot can happen before refill day.

slugbone
02-06-2008, 09:59 AM
Accident just means that it wasn't suicide and he wasn't murdered...

If I drop on refill day, it would be an accident... I'm not suicidal and though sometimes I think it is a possibility, I don't think my ex would murder me. But a lot can happen before refill day.


yeah, all of us can make a mistake like that. i mean the list of drugs ledger took is pretty much the same that any of us gobble down on any given day

Princess
02-06-2008, 10:03 AM
yeah, all of us can make a mistake like that. i mean the list of drugs ledger took is pretty much the same that any of us gobble down on any given day

That's what scares the shit out of me. Most of those meds are on my intake list... plus add in my fent habit...Jesus.

Raz
02-06-2008, 10:54 AM
I think you guys in the U S are gonna see some fall out over this....Get ready for the christian right, mothers against prescription drugs. the list goes on...I wouldnt like to have to justify my meds even more than you already have to..
I hope the press TV doesnt get too bad...Raz

upstate_007
02-06-2008, 11:01 AM
I think you guys in the U S are gonna see some fall out over this....Get ready for the christian right, mothers against prescription drugs. the list goes on...I wouldnt like to have to justify my meds even more than you already have to..
I hope the press TV doesnt get too bad...Raz

I agree Raz. I can see it now.... using this as an excuse to mandate that all docs, pharmacies and hospitals share patient medication info on a federal database to keep this from happening again. And the police state marches on.

Raz
02-06-2008, 11:08 AM
I agree Raz. I can see it now.... using this as an excuse to mandate that all docs, pharmacies and hospitals share patient medication info on a federal database to keep this from happening again. And the police state marches on.
^^^You might even see some of those election candidates pickin up on it??..UNless their party considers it too raw..But you guys know American politics better than me..Us Europeans dont know the publics perception on prescription drug abuse in America.From wat i've learned on opi, it seems pain Dr's are already under pressure...raz

Princess
02-06-2008, 11:14 AM
I think you guys in the U S are gonna see some fall out over this....Get ready for the christian right, mothers against prescription drugs. the list goes on...I wouldnt like to have to justify my meds even more than you already have to..
I hope the press TV doesnt get too bad...Raz

What about MOTHERS FOR PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. That's my new organization....I'm gonna get that up and running ;)

Fucking media.

ein0606
02-06-2008, 11:15 AM
I agree Raz. I can see it now.... using this as an excuse to mandate that all docs, pharmacies and hospitals share patient medication info on a federal database to keep this from happening again. And the police state marches on.
when filling my script on methadone i talked to the pharmacist about hippa. he said it was bullshit. and right now all "docs,pharms, and hospitals" DO share patient info without anyones consent. LEGALLY - hippa is a front, people think they are safe they are not. i forget who put the link up about it, i think maybe sicily but its true.


he also told me something else very interesting. that say for example i was in a car accident wehre the ambulance had to take me to the hospital. well that is considered a criminal investigation at first for the police, so they auto matically have the right to get your med records. and say in the wreck some guy was 250mph (exaggereating but youll get the point) and i was going the speed limit, wearing my seat belt and he crosses the line swerves in and out the finally crosses the line again and smashes me head on. obviously its this guys fault. but since its a criminal investigation at first the police will look at my med records and say hmmmmmmmm....IAN is on methadone. fuck the guy going 250 and driving on the wrong side of the road its ian's fault.
and as upstate says, "the police state marches on"

spain and austrailia are lookin better everyday.

Raz
02-06-2008, 11:37 AM
I got stopped at 8am sunday mornin on the way to pick my daughter and friends up from Pascha.I was 5ml over the limit, but told the cop i had been to sleep from the night b4 and was collectin my daughter.He knew my alcohol level was only goin down and in no danger of causin an accident...So he let me drive on...
What would of happened in the states??would i have been arrested?

Princess
02-06-2008, 11:44 AM
I got stopped at 8am sunday mornin on the way to pick my daughter and friends up from Pascha.I was 5ml over the limit, but told the cop i had been to sleep from the night b4 and was collectin my daughter.He knew my alcohol level was only goin down and in no danger of causin an accident...So he let me drive on...
What would of happened in the states??would i have been arrested?

If you were in Arizona, you'd be oh, so fucked.

Raz
02-06-2008, 11:47 AM
^^^ the new limit here is 26..I was 31...In the UK the limit is 32 i think..just so you get an idea of how i was,,,

Princess
02-06-2008, 11:53 AM
^^^ the new limit here is 26..I was 31...In the UK the limit is 32 i think..just so you get an idea of how i was,,,

You don't want any alcohol anywhere near your bloodstream in AZ. They just changed all the DUI laws here and its BAD.

Funny, the cop yesterday didn't give a second look to the pill bottles sitting on my passenger seat.....but hey, I didn't smell like alcohol (and I looked cute).

Anyways....back to Heath Ledger....

slugbone
02-06-2008, 12:22 PM
You don't want any alcohol anywhere near your bloodstream in AZ. They just changed all the DUI laws here and its BAD.

Funny, the cop yesterday didn't give a second look to the pill bottles sitting on my passenger seat.....but hey, I didn't smell like alcohol (and I looked cute).

Anyways....back to Heath Ledger....

yeah, i live around the valley of the sun and up by grand canyon back and forth.

it's pretty koo koo how many cops were around during the superbowl and FBR, makes me glad i don't drink anymore

Raz
02-06-2008, 12:31 PM
Theres quite a lot of personal freedom out here which i am thankful for...Although the Spanish justice system, once your in it, is about who can lie the best and who has the most money....Its changin, but wont actually change for another 20yrs..But street level its pretty cool.You dont get harrassed...Raz

Princess
02-06-2008, 01:14 PM
yeah, i live around the valley of the sun and up by grand canyon back and forth.

it's pretty koo koo how many cops were around during the superbowl and FBR, makes me glad i don't drink anymore

How funny! PM me....
I don't drink anymore either.
I went to the game (at the end), it was fuckin crazy. Didn't do FBR, can't do golf, no matter who buys me tickets.

kyuss
02-06-2008, 01:17 PM
Really fucking sad.
He was one of the few
really good actors.
I've got a small list
of actors I really like
and he was up there
with Penn,Rourke,Brando,and Dillon.
He was great in Candy,had it down perfect.
And In BB Mountain,his accent was gone,
great fucking actor.
He will be missed.

Armegeddon73
02-06-2008, 01:20 PM
He died of accute toxicity due to the fact he had ingested oxycodone, hydrocodone, xanax, ambien and a few other prescription drugs. Fuck. That sucks for everybody.
ARM :mad:

Boudica
02-06-2008, 08:18 PM
yeah, all of us can make a mistake like that. i mean the list of drugs ledger took is pretty much the same that any of us gobble down on any given day


...And this is exactly what has me feeling so solemn after reading this. I knock back exactly everything on his list each day, except for the hydro.

Just one of those universal "shouts" we get sometimes, that lets us know just how easily we can cross that very, very thin line. I am listening to this one, bigtime.

I bid you a most fond adieu, Heath.

Cherry's Jubilee
02-06-2008, 08:47 PM
Someone seriously just posted this on the ABC News discussion forum about his death. Direct copy and paste:

If Asian counties like India can ban codine/codone thinking they can be fatal for you, why these drugs can't be banned or t least be controlled here???
Posted by:
priya1024 (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/comments?type=user&loginCode=%7BE60C46C6-9C9E-43B0-89C2-A41A3EBDD919%7D) 10:22 PM

Boudica
02-06-2008, 08:59 PM
Someone seriously just posted this on the ABC News discussion forum about his death. Direct copy and paste:

If Asian counties like India can ban codine/codone thinking they can be fatal for you, why these drugs can't be banned or t least be controlled here???
Posted by:
priya1024 (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/comments?type=user&loginCode=%7BE60C46C6-9C9E-43B0-89C2-A41A3EBDD919%7D) 10:22 PM


Interesting, inane comment, considering that India is one of the world's biggest exporters of illegal controlled substances, and that DEA exerts so much energy toward "control" of them here. What a fookin' dumbarse.

Cherry's Jubilee
02-06-2008, 10:31 PM
Someone seriously just posted this on the ABC News discussion forum about his death. Direct copy and paste:

If Asian counties like India can ban codine/codone thinking they can be fatal for you, why these drugs can't be banned or t least be controlled here???
Posted by:
priya1024 (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/comments?type=user&loginCode=%7BE60C46C6-9C9E-43B0-89C2-A41A3EBDD919%7D) 10:22 PM

Just to entertain and update you on my ongoing argument with this dumbass:

priya1024: That's a really stupid question. First of all, they ARE controlled here. They are schedule II controlled narcotics available only with a prescription. Second of all, if you BAN pain medicine, what do you suggest you give people in pain? Seriously consider THINKING about your dumb comment before you post it.
Posted by:
SicilyC (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/comments?type=user&loginCode=%7BA7CA128D-E72B-4B64-B8F7-310AEC8C4A7F%7D) 10:34 PM Feb-6

sicilyC, Did anybody ever tell you you are quite rude!!!! a drug banned means BANNED .....peroid...no availability thru prescription or whatsovever..If you care to read about the side affects of codone you would know ...may be not!!!! Cuz some people can't look beyond their own problems, they don't care about a life lost...or on the brink of loss... just because of their mindless dependability of so called pain killers.
Posted by:
priya1024 (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/comments?type=user&loginCode=%7BE60C46C6-9C9E-43B0-89C2-A41A3EBDD919%7D) 12:14 AM Feb-6

scarlettt
02-07-2008, 12:07 AM
Uh... little Priya there wants all drugs banned? Even ones given with a prescription for pain?

wow. just... wow.

Raz
02-07-2008, 02:00 AM
I think little ol priya needs some pain, but no meds...And a quick fuckin wake up call...

upstate_007
02-07-2008, 06:19 AM
In all the news clips I saw about the report last night they said that the DEA is looking into preventing this from happening to other people. Fuck.

And the police state marches on.

Princess
02-07-2008, 07:11 AM
In all the news clips I saw about the report last night they said that the DEA is looking into preventing this from happening to other people. Fuck.

And the police state marches on.

Yep, just saw on the news that the DEA is launching a full scale investigation into why it is possible for people to get these kind of combos of meds. (duh)

Great, I need to go back to the "getting nervous about doctor's appointment" thread....