Is someone trying to tell me something?

[hammer]

Well, i sit here pondering when my bro is gonna cruz in and deliver that first taste of smack. In the last few days though i feel as if i've been getting signs to NOT use, even though the more i read the more i feel i have to, just once at least.
I went through 72 10/325's and a bottle of Tussionex from Jan 8th to the 12th, and to my surprise i had some minor w/d's. Just the runs, aches, and restlessness but they lasted for 5 days. On day 5 i gulped a large swallow of Codine cough syrup (Phenegren w/ Codine) and my upper lip swelled up like a freeking hamberger bun for about 10 hours. It reminded me of when i was 19 and in the hospital for ulcerative colitius and had been given around 60 morphine shots before i had an allergic reaction and had to be given a shot of adrenalin and something else that supposedly "sucked all the drug from my system" as the doctor put it.
So........i ponder this. When my connect arrives, and the H flows into me, do i stand a risk of some sort of deathly allergic reaction? I mean i have never felt any allergy to most other opiates except the 1 time years ago with morphine and just recently with the codine. I really dont know what to make of these two strange incidents. I mean, i dont think you can have a "sometimes" allergy.....can you?

[Nate]

Well if you are indeed alergic to morphine (would explain why you have a problem with codeine as its converted to morphine), you will likely have problems with H as it too is converted to morphine. Start VERY small, see what happens.

[Raz]

I fully understand your desire to have a go, but me personally would never intro anyone to heroin....
Dont let this one time come back to haunt you and i would pay attention to Nates advice if your gonna av a go anyway....The choice is yours, for now....remember those words bro....Be cool Raz

[hammer]

What i dont understand is how i have drank many bottles of codine cough syrup and never had this problem. But i also don't understand how i can go 2 weeks w/o any Norcos and sometimes i take 3 at once and feel nice and high, then at a different time i take 1 after 2 weeks off and i feel like ive been hit by a sleepy train. I am on 60mg's of Cymbalta/day and i take Valium when i am nerved up. I just seem to have a very awkward system. Maybe its the chemicals in my brain. I have done alot of speed and coke in my life, and i feel like my brain has changed somewhat, although i cant tell how, other than some normal life struggles make me go insane at times.

[Raz]

Maybe its the chemicals in my brain. I have done alot of speed and coke in my life, and i feel like my brain has changed somewhat, although i cant tell how, other than some normal life struggles make me go insane at times.
Join the club Bro, join this crazy club...
....Raz

[NV12]

If you're going to do it by yourself... at least tell someone **just in case** and have them check up on you...

[turdkenedy]

Well, i sit here pondering when my bro is gonna cruz in and deliver that first taste of smack. In the last few days though i feel as if i've been getting signs to NOT use, even though the more i read the more i feel i have to, just once at least.
I went through 72 10/325's and a bottle of Tussionex from Jan 8th to the 12th, and to my surprise i had some minor w/d's. Just the runs, aches, and restlessness but they lasted for 5 days. On day 5 i gulped a large swallow of Codine cough syrup (Phenegren w/ Codine) and my upper lip swelled up like a freeking hamberger bun for about 10 hours. It reminded me of when i was 19 and in the hospital for ulcerative colitius and had been given around 60 morphine shots before i had an allergic reaction and had to be given a shot of adrenalin and something else that supposedly "sucked all the drug from my system" as the doctor put it.
So........i ponder this. When my connect arrives, and the H flows into me, do i stand a risk of some sort of deathly allergic reaction? I mean i have never felt any allergy to most other opiates except the 1 time years ago with morphine and just recently with the codine. I really dont know what to make of these two strange incidents. I mean, i dont think you can have a "sometimes" allergy.....can you?

if you are feeling doubts, i say that you quit while youre ahead. there are no winners with drugs... but everyone already knows that.

either way, good luck man

[OCfenatiq]

As said previously, I wouldn't introduce H to anyone b/c it is an instant fall in love kind of thing. If you like taking opiates you will LOVE the smack and other things won't do it the same, ever. If your plan is to try H once then go back to low mg pills, this may be harder than you think but its up to you on that...

Either way, as far as the allergy goes, morphine definately causes much more of an allergy than any other opiate I beleive(to most), and even though H eventually turns to morphine in the body it still doesn't cause the allergy reactions taking morphine itself causes. At least this is what I have been told and read here by many...

I mean morphine shots cause pins and needles right?? Isn't this due to allergy reactions?? And smack is rare if at all to cause as much of an allergy reaction as morphine. It is possible with some people though (but if you have been taking opiates for a long time and only had the morphine reaction and minor codeine reaction, I wouldn't expect much of one from H) It is correct for sure to start low in your dose and move up from there and you will see how it effects you at the low dose, if any allergy reaction there, obviously expect more of one at a higher dose... Be careful

Hope that helped some... Keep us posted with your discision and how things went, if you went on with it...

[mollywopped]

OCfenatiq, the pins and needles is due to a histamine release, not an allergic reaction.

Hammer, if you are having 2nd thoughts, you should probably not do it. You can't take it back once it's done and I have never seen anybody try heroin and not like it. Like somebody else said, it's a do it once and fall in love drug. However, I have seen people do it once or twice and realize how much they like it and leave it alone.

Buuutttt, if you have had allergic reactions to codeine and morphine I would not try heroin. Codeine is turned into morphine in the body, as is heroin. And apparently you are allergic to morphine. It is possible to only have allergic reactions some of the time, but why risk it?

I would suggest you just stick with the hydrocodone or maybe some oxycodone. The high from heroin is better than those, but still pretty similar. That is a big misunderstanding I hear a lot about heroin. People that have used other opiates think that heroin is going to be different or so much better, but all it is is a more efficient delivery of morphine. The initial rush is better than most drugs, but the high is pretty similar to hydro or oxy.

What I am trying to say is if you want to do heroin because you think it is going to be better or different than other opiates, it isn't. Most people use heroin because it is cheaper and easier to get than Dilaudid or other shit like that. So stick with the hydros or oxys because you know you aren't allergic to those and they will get you just as high as a little heroin will.

[eveline]

What i dont understand is how i have drank many bottles of codine cough syrup and never had this problem.

Not sure if you were referring to it, but Tussionex is hydrocodone, not codeine. And allergic reactions get worse each time you're exposed to the allergen, so be careful.

[Digitopium]

So........i ponder this. When my connect arrives, and the H flows into me...

Um, I think you are romanticizing dope a little too much, as if it is some kind of star-crossed lovers bullshit...meant to be and all.

Get it straight, H is the bottom line when it comes to opiates, certainly west coast tar. It is stronger than anything you have ever put into your body, and you will be floored and possibly sick/nauseous if you slam it for a first time ROA.

Look, its a line many wished they hadn't crossed, and I am not sure, but I think you have already gotten high by now...but the smart choice is not to do it. especially if this is you first time IV and first time H experience.

Once its in your system, thats it. All pharmies become insufficiently potent, and you will crave that and only that, until some genius teaches you about speedballs (god forbid).

So, uh, DONT do it. Spending too much time on this site makes you think its all fucking trainspotting and shit if your mind is teenage and impressionable.

Talk about naive.

[Young Professor]

How much Tussionex did you go through? BTW, it's extended release (but you probably knew that) and the PDR says it's good for 12 hours....So, this may acct for some of your allergy issues.

I would caution you on the other. "Once you try smack, you never go back." You can't miss something you've never had.

Good luck bro.:cool: