View Full Version : maintaining that bowel balance with bupe
mikells43
01-16-2008, 07:58 PM
hey u guys on bupe all the time like myself, how the hell do u mantain the balance in poo. if my poo isn't hard like rocks and ripping my sphincter, it is running out like warm chocolate(when still solid the chocolate not liquid). that comes form too much miralax. its eather too much miarlax or not enough. i can't get the balance down. and you guys all know what comes from poo that is like soft chocolate. a burning butt cause of overwipage. i hate to be graphic but i think the 27lb poo story takes that cake. how do u mantain balance with miarlax?????? cause i can't.
Diluted
01-16-2008, 08:09 PM
Frosted Mini Wheats for breakfast, and midnight snack. All that fiber makes nice healthy movements.
My first day of work, at Belk, I was so constipated.. the.. bowel its self was stuck half way out of me it was so big. Ha, the truth. I was on the toilet for over 90 minutes in agony. But, my doctor recommended mini wheats and they work great.
mikells43
01-16-2008, 09:17 PM
ive had that happen too. it sucks. ive even coached the spincther with pressure. i guess ill try them again. but all i think fiber does is make more poo.
Oxydation
01-16-2008, 09:44 PM
M43,
The only advice I can give on the matter is to take a mild stool softener. I was prescribed some (although you can get it easily OTC) when I was put on a Morphine Drip followed up by Percs after one of my shoulder surgeries. Fortunately, I'm luck when it comes to this dilema or perhaps my body has just adapted to it but no matter how much Bupe / Opiates I take, I never get completely stopped up. Not even painfully for that matter. Yep, that's all I can recommend...just a steady dose of a 'mild' stool softener.
Wish ya the best of luck!
Oxydation
justonefix
01-16-2008, 09:49 PM
wheaties in the morning and microbrew at night...
mikells43
01-17-2008, 12:19 AM
i dont drink. and i was on morph 3 times total for all 3 shoudler operations. man that was great. i used 6 vials of morph in the pca pump one time. the nurses changed it every 3 hours cause i was pumping it dry. but i was so loaded i couldnt even piss. lol
GOLD N DIEMONDS
01-17-2008, 12:27 AM
mikells- More Bananas, LESS bup. Coffee Drinker? That tends to jump start things for me too
mikells43
01-17-2008, 01:19 AM
i drink 4 cups of coffee a day usually(thats a whole pot with my 4 cup mr coffee) i put 3 tablespoons of coffee in for that amount. its kinda strong lol. but yea coffee does help.
trainwrecker
01-17-2008, 08:50 AM
Kiefer or anything probiotic helps; microbrew, sourkraut, etc...
deathboy
01-17-2008, 11:56 AM
Benefiber - it the coffee each morning. Supplement with high fiber fruits and veggies - cruciferious veggies are your best bet. Coffee is a diuretic so you may want to cut back on your intake.
I must be blessed b/c I've never had constipation on Buprenorphine. That being said any of the full agonists tear me the HELL up.
DB
Frosted Mini-Wheats FTW!!!
I eat a couple bowls a day and I've been very regular since I started. Taste great, won't make you fat, and keeps things movin'. :)
Duckfeet
01-17-2008, 10:12 PM
I got severely constipated on bupe, and about every four days would get desperate, and drink the green pre-surgery crap, which makes me puke just thinking about it, if not, I have to take a 250mg docusate daily, eat lots of veggies, and still use enemas, and now back on methadone, once I dropped down beneath 50mg it got to where I have a bowel movement daily, but I'm still like 2-3 days "behind", if u know what I mean...so methadone was somewhat better, for me. I find it one of the most irritating side effects of bupe, or methadone, and probably main reason I want off daily opiates that stay in system, like these two...a real drag...
Saint
01-19-2008, 06:17 AM
I use methadone and have IBS so I only shit about once or twice a week (IF I'm so lucky) but I was far less constipated on subs than I am on methadone. So I started tapering again and am on 35 mgs now but no improvement. The weird thing is that my doc blames the constipation on my opiate-use but when I tapered to 0 or 5 mgs of methadone it got even worse. I guess that must have something to do with the IBS since I have never heard of a junky that gets constipation in withdrawals!
I tried everything from metamucil, magnesium to plain hardcore laxatives, even klisma's but nothing works in the long run.
I hardly eat any meat but I do eat a lot of veggies and fruit every day, drink tons of water but nothing... It's a bitch. My tummy is always swollen and I have this more or les continuous nagging pain.
I ride my bike to work, try to exercise... nothing.
Last week I cut down my smoking from about 30 to 3 cigarets a day which makes it even more difficult to get a bowelmovement. Hate it.
I also feel numb on methadone. Only when I start using it, taking a high dose I get this euphoria-like feeling but that soon wears off and then I'll feel nothing at all. That's why I always want to get off this stuff as soon as I'm on it..
Guys a surefire way to av a shit is to mould some soap into a suitable shape and plug it. I kid you not, you will have a movement. And it wont be the civil rights movement, it will be the sweetest smellin shit you've ever dumped. I know this fact from my jail days when i had the need to retrieve a parcel, but couldnt shit.
It takes about 20-30 mins after pluggin.My advice is get mouldin and safe shittin.Also do it in a safe time window, you dont want to be shittin at your work desk.
One more shit tip for those chronically constipated is; good ol eye drops.A drop of that in water will have you shittin muy rapido....Its an airlane stewards revenge trick for mouthy passengers.Works every time and easily so.And your bowels just let go....
Maybe some of the chem guys know why, i just know it works.But thank fuck this method wasnt from personal xperience. Just the soap brothers n sisters, just the soap.....Raz
motts
01-19-2008, 08:25 AM
I was on bupe for around 2 months, one of the main reasons I really hated it was because of the urinary retention and the constipation. I took a laxative every morning from CVS, and I workout often had plenty of greens/fiber, and still nothing.
Personally I think it is all about balancing your bupe dose. I know for me 8mg was just took high, I would sometimes nod, feel like I was on massive amounts of percs etc. I am not complaining I just didn't see how feeling like I was stoned all the time was helping my "wanted soberity" at that point in my life.
Anyways when I dropped to 2mg I could feel, the positives of bupe while, pissing/shitting regularly, my two cents, but ya talk to your talk and possibly take more fiber are my suggestions.
Vico-Dan
01-19-2008, 11:14 PM
I take a shot of extra virgin olive oil every night.
Keeps me regular.
I have a fear of busting a blood vessel in my brain trying to squeeze one out on the shitter and having them find me like they did Elvis.
Chicago
01-19-2008, 11:19 PM
I JUST HEARD OF THIS LATELY, it's called the cocktail, a little cup of milk magnesium mixed w/some pruin juice.Size a pixie cup from the washroom. I heard this works wonders from many people.
mikells43
01-19-2008, 11:25 PM
I JUST HEARD OF THIS LATELY, it's called the cocktail, a little cup of milk magnesium mixed w/some pruin juice.Size a pixie cup from the washroom. I heard this works wonders from many people.
they made me drink milk of mag in this one detox hospital i went to. sick lol ill take a shot of it over a whole 8oz glass they made me drink. WARM!!
kevin
01-20-2008, 02:08 PM
Mike,
I'm on a pretty high dose of bupe and am regular now. What I did was to take some laxatives (bisacodyl) 3/5mg tablets before I went to bed one time, then the next day I took fiber tablets with each meal. Ever since I started on the fiber regimen I've been regular as the sun. The only thing is that I do notice it's hard as concrete sometimes, so I do use a mild stool softener from time to time. It's all about having a good diet, getting exercise (it's amazing how much that helps), and using the stool softeners occasionally. Granted, the urinary retention will continue but it has also faded over time. I've been on bupe for around 50 days and I'm pretty much back to normal now. You just have to be real careful you don't mess with your system too much. Too many laxatives is really terrible for you, especially if they are stimulants. Be careful and I hope you feel better.
Saint
01-20-2008, 02:21 PM
Mike,
I'm on a pretty high dose of bupe and am regular now. What I did was to take some laxatives (bisacodyl) 3/5mg tablets before I went to bed one time, then the next day I took fiber tablets with each meal. Ever since I started on the fiber regimen I've been regular as the sun. The only thing is that I do notice it's hard as concrete sometimes, so I do use a mild stool softener from time to time. It's all about having a good diet, getting exercise (it's amazing how much that helps), and using the stool softeners occasionally. Granted, the urinary retention will continue but it has also faded over time. I've been on bupe for around 50 days and I'm pretty much back to normal now. You just have to be real careful you don't mess with your system too much. Too many laxatives is really terrible for you, especially if they are stimulants. Be careful and I hope you feel better.
Boy I wish this were true... I eat 90% vegetarian, take about 2 or 3 pieces of fruits daily, exercise a lot and use magnesium and a stool softener but still... NOTHING. I get a BM twice a week if I am so lucky and it's usually one tiny rock or a bunch of goatturds.
I guess I'm some sort of alien because even in withdrawals I still can't shit!.. I think my bowels are fucked up due to many years of opiate (methadone)use...
sexualhealing
01-20-2008, 09:06 PM
im on 12mg a day...
metamucil and colace....everyday...if i miss...i cant poo....
mikells43
01-20-2008, 10:13 PM
my diet sucks thats half the prob.
kevin
01-23-2008, 02:33 AM
Boy I wish this were true... I eat 90% vegetarian, take about 2 or 3 pieces of fruits daily, exercise a lot and use magnesium and a stool softener but still... NOTHING. I get a BM twice a week if I am so lucky and it's usually one tiny rock or a bunch of goatturds.
I guess I'm some sort of alien because even in withdrawals I still can't shit!.. I think my bowels are fucked up due to many years of opiate (methadone)use...
Yikes, not shitting in withdraw sounds weird. You might want to get that checked out. Maybe I'm just lucky, but I really didn't have problems with bms after the first three weeks or so.
mikells43
01-24-2008, 01:22 AM
Yikes, not shitting in withdraw sounds weird. You might want to get that checked out. Maybe I'm just lucky, but I really didn't have problems with bms after the first three weeks or so.
thanks for all ur replys guys. i even trieed that new amateiza shit too. it has such horrible side effects . i took 1 pill and allmost had to go to the er cause i couldnt breath due to asthma probs with it. it is sending people to the hospital tooo. so just an advisery if u have resprtory probs , DONT TAKE amatezia.
Saint
01-24-2008, 12:45 PM
Yikes, not shitting in withdraw sounds weird. You might want to get that checked out. Maybe I'm just lucky, but I really didn't have problems with bms after the first three weeks or so.
I have had it checked out and the doc said it was IBS... I actually had a better shit when I was still on heroine than I do now (being off it for 8 years). Weird but true.
BigLou
01-30-2008, 11:43 AM
i take a Col-Rite pill every day and eat as much fiber as i can. seems to do the trick for me although i do go 1-2 days without pooing sometimes.. hate that
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