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Hi all,
I am new so don't be to harsh on the dosage...I have chronic pain and I ask myself daily...is there something wrong with me...Ingestion of Hydrocodone and Oxycodone reduces my bone pain...I have used demerol and tramadol over the years as well...I started with Lomotil (diphenoxylate) for Crohn's Disease...and I have found opiates handle my intense deep bone pain caused by lack of calcium...Crossing over 40 I find my arthritis and soft bones to be a constant pain and cause of fatigue...yet when I quit using opiods then I feel like "trash"...Is there something wrong with me? I mean wanting reduction of pain that is...:bricks:
The Place is Set, but no man knows the Time...
Going on...I feel that I live in the wrong country when in other nations you can walk into the pharmacy and walk out with anything you need...I get tired of making some Medical Specialist's Porsche payement every other month just to get $20 worth of pain reducing pills....Guess all those years at Cleveland clinic have "jaded" me...:D
I expect yall to poke me with a stick first but I am on the up & up...
Coddfish
02-05-2006, 02:56 AM
I've never had chronic pain, but if I did I think I'd want it to stop. I see you're a fellow okie. Are you crimson and cream?
Go Sooners!
Originally from Ohio then lived in Florida Coddfish...like an old shoe I been around...:p
Actually at work now...In T-town...
Coddfish
02-05-2006, 03:05 AM
I landed in the N.E. via Bangkok, so me too. Dj'you see the signing day the Sooners had this week? Best highschool defensive player. . . in the country(!!), and they got the best tight end, too. happy day.:D
Sorry I took so long Coddfish...I snuck out on the veranda of the TV station and spent some time witth the Doobie Brothers...heh! Heh!:)
When we ran the Sooners Bowl Game here we had gatorade pay $17000 for ONE 30 second commercial! God! Glad I didn't have to play it...I am a MCO...(Master Control Operator)...I make the TV station run...I am doing the Super Bowl tomorrow night and if I play a spot wrong they may just cut my fingers off...:D
It's times like these that makes me want an OC...or Vicodin...or Tylox...or Percocet...Lortab...drag of opium...paragoric...raw poppy bulbs...
Anything that kills the pain for more than five minutes...But that's me!
Gotta watch me...I fly off on those tangents...senior moments ya know!
It's important to admit to youself right off of the bat that you ARE addicted to the "feeling" of painlessness or you lie to yourself...from the second you take that "hit" you are waiting for the "rush"...pure & simple...easy as pie...:music2:
Then you realize you have been completely separated from pain...that floating feeling they call "euphoria"...anyone relieved of the Atlas Ball they are carrying during the day did would be euphoric...
You alL may wonder why I titled this thread Something wrong with me?...It's really simple children...In the society we have here in the USA...if you enjoy opiates for recreation or pain killing effects then there MUST be something wrong with you...That is what they want you to believe...so you'll 12 Step...(or two-step...whatever step you want)...But when it comes to the rest of the world there is nothing wrong with you at all....:cool:
We all know the "truth"...the truth is the "drug laws" of this nation first warped by the FDA to later be usurped by the DEA is nothing more than a "front" to launder the money of 3rd world dictatorships...and to exact "control"...:dollarsig
But we all know why they are trying to stop and stymie poppy crops in Khandahar...and it has everything to do with the "body politic"...:faga1:
But we will party on then won't we?:party-smi
As for the body politic that runs this nation as claimed we are ALL addicts...we are addicted to oil...LOL!:finger4u:
As time rolls on everything became Set in stone...
It's all relative...
Seems like I can't post an image....
Nope won't post my image...
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Radio Kaos--Radio Waves--Roger Waters
[Jim:] "This is K.A.O.S.
You and I are listening to KAOS in Los Angeles.
Let's go to the telephones now and take a request."
[Billy:] "Hello, I'm Billy."
[Jim:] "Yes?"
[Billy:] "I hear radio waves in my head."
[Jim:] "You hear radio waves in your head?
Ah! Is there a request that
you have tonight for KAOS?"
Radio waves
Radio waves
Radio waves
He hears radio waves
Radio waves
The atmosphere is thin and cold
The yellow sun is getting old
The ozone overflows with radio waves
AM, FM, weather and news
Our leaders had a frank exchange of views
Are you confused, radio waves
Radio waves
Radio waves
AM radio waves
FM radio waves
Radio waves
Mind-numbing radio waves
Fish-stunning radio waves
Radio waves
Magic Billy in his wheel chair
Is picking up all this stuff in the air
Billy is face to face with outer space
Messages from distant stars
The local police calling all cars
Radio waves
Hear them radio waves
Radio waves
Jesus saves radio
Radio waves
Radio waves
AM radio waves
FM radio waves
All them radio waves
Radio waves
Radio waves
He hears radio waves
Radio waves
Radio waves
Hopeful radio waves
Dopeful radio waves
Radio waves
Russian radio waves
Prussian radio waves
Eastern radio waves
Western radio waves
Testing radio waves
One two
One two
Radio waves
Getting through to you
More code radio waves
Tobacco road radio waves
South to Paloma radio waves
Oklahoma City radio waves
Sitting pretty radio waves
Nitty-gritty radio waves
Radio waves
[Jim:] "Alright, that's a song called Radio Waves.
You are listening to KAOS
In Los Angeles and we've got Billy on the line."
[Billy:] "I'm from the valleys."
Clear and crisp...smooth and clean...you can run this "horse" all the way to Aquaduct Baby!
Smell that son? That's napalm son! I love the smell of napalm in the morning...it smells like....victory...Are you planning to change all your plans or are they Set?
My but the strange things that pass through the mind...
hovadagod
02-09-2006, 07:19 PM
Get it checked out...especially your marrow....
CAndy?
Pretty much afraid to do that hovadagod...
Besides already know the answer because I have been hearing it for years...there is nothing they can do...my body has been deprived of calcium since I was 19 years old...and supplements don't help....:mad:
Then you get sick and tired of plopping down $500 to a specialist to tell you what you already know...that your bones have detrimented over time and all they can do is kill the pain...(for another $500 that is)....
Know how to post images? Mine won't go...I embellish posts with artwork & such...:D
hovadagod
02-09-2006, 07:37 PM
If you are that shit out of luck, get yourself some insurance and get what you want. See a pain management doctor and take care of your monkey...if your sick, that's when you live vicariously through your monkey.
Agreed...If you have insurance you might as well feed the gorilla...no matter where the pain...you take the gain...it's just such a conundrum...A chinese puzzle...:D
Kinda like a Catch 22...:jumping-s
But money keeps you in what you need...Went down the street for years too!:D
But then I got tired of getting into trouble...having to put up with "beefs"...you know the "drill"....:argue:
Everybodies got something to hide but me and my monkey...
And pain managment is another road I've been down...but I can still move...can't buy a thrill? The rub is in other countries you don't go around the physical block to get $20 worth of pills...Oh you will do it,but do you want to? especially when you know north and south of US borders you can have what you want? Besides...you want that thrill because you are a junky...I am and I admit it...Why lie?
I use anything I get my hands on! LOL!
Also I will admit I lived vicariously through my Cleveland Clinic monkey for years as well, so I know what you are on about...It's just an unnatural position I sit in between where I was and where I am going...
when you can't get what you want then you want what you get. I did some quality "blow" just last week...this "toot" would have scrambled your mind like an egg....:juggle:
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A friend of mine said to me why pay for a doctor to give you an RX for Oxy? when you can get a quarter paper of toot without the mark up?
Had a Pain Management Doctor get busted in Tulsa this week because one of his patients ODed on Methadone. I don't know the details, but the "poor lil greenie" messed up on his on dosage and gave himself way too much...poor lil greenie...but should the doctor be tried?:violent4:
The Doctor, known as a Dr. Fahey is up on charges...one wonders if this would actually stick...I'll look for the details on the case...
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Candy is Dandy...but Liquor is Quicker...but it all goes up my nose!
The Place is Set, but No Man knows the time...
Up in Smoke,
That's where my money goes,
In my lungs,
and sometimes up my nose,
so if you think life is one big joke,
just take another toke,
and all your cares go
Up in Smoke!
and these but the random dreams of a "madman"...whether you use it for pain, recreation, or for spiritual experience...we must all admonish the "rush"...
Set has passed through the netherworlds yet again, be prepared soon for more fantasy of illusion...
:magicshit
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Opiyum
03-09-2006, 11:59 PM
and these but the random dreams of a "madman"...whether you use it for pain, recreation, or for spiritual experience...we must all admonish the "rush"...
Set has passed through the netherworlds yet again, be prepared soon for more fantasy of illusion...
:magicshit
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Your little note regarding body politics and such and...uh...it reaffirming in many ways I couldnt begin to explain cause you probably dont have that kind of time...but I have to get one thing straight...your not a... self indused addict? your "addicted" because of your illness...yet you have these grandious opinion on the matter,...is this correct.
Your little note regarding body politics and such and...uh...it reaffirming in many ways I couldnt begin to explain cause you probably dont have that kind of time...but I have to get one thing straight...your not a... self indused addict? your "addicted" because of your illness...yet you have these grandious opinion on the matter,...is this correct.
I guess grandious opinion fits the bill...I prefere "illusions of Grandeur" myself...my drug taking life started in "sterile hospitals" but gravitated to the streets..I was already screwed up on Phenobarbs & Darvocets when I smoked my first joint...I was 18...a "late bloomer"...:cloud9:
When I say you must admonish the "rush"...I mean no matter when or for what reason you started taking pain killing drugs and opiates...you admonish that you want a separation from the reality that opiates provide...it allows you to think outside of yourself...it relieves pain and in relieving that pain...it frees your mind to think and your body to move...:musik010:
Voodoo
Godsmack
(Godsmack)
I'm not the one who's so far away
When I feel the snake bite enter my veins.
Never did I wanna be here again
And I don't remember why I came.
Candles raise my desire,
Why I'm so far away.
No more meaning to my life,
No more reason to stay
Freazing, feeling,I? coming back again...
[repeat chorus]
Hazing clouds rain on my head,
Empty thoughts fill my ears.
Find my shade by the moonlight,
Why my thoughts aren? so clear.
Demons dreaming,
Breathe in, breathe in...
I? coming back again...
[repeat chorus 4 times]
Voodoo, voodoo, voodoo, voodoo.
[repeat]
[so far away...
I? not the one who? so far away...
I? not the one who? so far away...
I? not the one who? so far away...]
Breathe in, breathe in
exitwound
03-19-2006, 02:29 PM
I would seriously consider marijuana as part of your pain control regimen (obviously has to be kept secret from your doc, but us serious chronic pain sufferers are no strangers to that sort of thing); it makes a big difference when my bone pain flare-ups are at their worst.
Thanks exitwound...pot's all I am using for pain....then I get slow so I used The Devil's Dandruff to spike myself up...rather than coke I would rather have OC or Fentanyl...hell even Fiornal with Codeine works better!:D
exitwound
05-17-2006, 05:20 PM
Thanks exitwound...pot's all I am using for pain....then I get slow so I used The Devil's Dandruff to spike myself up...rather than coke I would rather have OC or Fentanyl...hell even Fiornal with Codeine works better!:D
Yeah, screw cocaine man! If I knew of sources for the good meds that were safe and in excess of my needs I'd gladly share with my brothers & sisters in pain.....right now the best I can do is spread the word about how easily it is for legitimate pain sufferers to get hydrocodone from ROP's using minimal records & ID, how the really basic pain options (tramadol, propoxyphene, codeine et al) can be had from NROP's without records and also from International OP's without records or even filling out a medical form. Of course IOP orders are subject to the occasional Customs seizure but it's a reasonable option if you find a reputable IOP. Most will re-send with an alternate method if your first shipment is seized, and the risk to you is negligible.
I am also a huge supporter of the Poppy-Overgrow movement, that is chronic pain sufferers growing & breeding their own poppies, sharing high-quality seeds, and sharing information on how to get the best bang for your buck in a highly secure way when it comes to growing/using your own opium.
There are a lot of resources out there. MJ is a great one but depending on your pain, you should seriously consider giving stims a rest while you explore the wonderful world of opiates. You may want to start by buying some poppy pods and making some tea perhaps?
Thanks exitwound, sorry it took soooo long to get back, but I lost my home connect so I can only posts at work while I run a major Okie TV station at night...
I tried an IOP...I got Tramadol & Lomotil First and it came in 13 days...the next order of Darvocets and Codeine pills took 4 MONTHS!...I am looking for a GOOD Pharm but its like looking for a needle in a haystack...
When I was in Florida, you could grow Papaver almost all year because of the climate and I had friends who made "opium rods" to smoke...I have no idea how that goes to be made but I DID enjoy smoking the results...
I need to solve money problems first...but I do agree and have interest in pods and tea as well...:p
Cocaine is tooo much a stim...I agree but it does produce a "nummer"...around here ya get tweak or "tar" and I have no idea how to use H, I admit that...I am squeamish to "stick" myself because I was needled into submission by hospitals and Cleveland Clinic over the years...I just can't puncture my skin! Phobic!:speechles
Opiyum
05-21-2006, 03:01 AM
You alL may wonder why I titled this thread Something wrong with me?...It's really simple children...In the society we have here in the USA...if you enjoy opiates for recreation or pain killing effects then there MUST be something wrong with you...That is what they want you to believe...so you'll 12 Step...(or two-step...whatever step you want)...But when it comes to the rest of the world there is nothing wrong with you at all.
Kurt Vonnegut says the same thing about the poor. He says it so well sometime Ill look it up.
Hannibal Lecter
05-21-2006, 03:50 AM
Dark One, Poppies will put you to sleep!
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I'll get you My Pretty....and your little dog too! AAAAHHAHAHA!
exitwound
05-21-2006, 04:48 PM
Dark One, Poppies will put you to sleep!
http://pentaclerecords.net/darien3/oz_witch_2.jpg
I'll get you My Pretty....and your little dog too! AAAAHHAHAHA!
Poppies will make your EENWINCEEBUL! :D :cool:
(....if only.)
Remember this is true,
There is nothing wrong with you,
A junkie's life is full of pain,
but you won't pass this way again,
Your life is Set to fail,
If all you do is wail,
But Opium stops the pain from getting too funky,
So you gotta feed that monkey,
Lest ye die....
:crowdsurf
What the government can't profit from is made illegal so it can....
Remember we are addicted to "oil"...
They toss that word..."addiction"...around waaaay to much....
To cover every issue...
It's a panacea...
:violent4:
The truth is in the 1970's Tricky Dick formed the DEA in order to control, not so much drugs mind you...but the nations it comes from...Opium from Laos and Thailand in the Golden Triangle passed through Viet Nam & Cambodia...we were at "war" with one of those nations at that time and trying to invade another...In Afghanistan Opium passed through Iran where we had put the Shah back in power in 1967...and through Pakistan that had a tenous government or via Turkey through the French Connection at Marseilles...
In the south we had tenous relations with Mexico through Argentina...we set up Pinochet type "dictatorships" to control the governments...NOT the drugs...
But THAT is why Heroin & Cocaine were placed on Schedule One at that time...because they were IMPORTED from nations we were trying to CONTROL at that time...
:violent3:
But we have found we can grow our own papaver...our own cannabis....mushrooms or herbs...the natural extracts make the BEST pain killers!:D
Yes exitwound it does make you invincible when you are impervious to pain!!!:p
ontario_opiophile
05-28-2006, 05:20 AM
Anyone with real pain shouldn't be ashamed of taking painkillers. If your pain is true and it interferes with your life and painkillers help you function better and suffer less, I don't see anything wrong with it. The problem occurs when you start taking more and more and coming close to overdoses. If you continue to do something like that and try to use the excuse that your in pain, you are in trouble. It's easy to rationalize something like that if you convince yourself you "need" it and deserve it because of your pain.
I am quite tall and too heavy for my body and my bones and muscles and joints tend to feel very sore all of the time and I have used this as an excuse to administer ridiculous amounts of narcotics to myself and it's hard to resist when you have that legitimate pain. From my experience, my pain never goes away, even when I injest copious amounts of opiates and other drugs. Pain is always there and can be numbed.....to a point!!!
Just take the least amount of drugs possible that effectively handles your pain. And don't feel guilty for it. It's your body you know what you need to feel better. Even if you are taking more than you should, eventually you'll probably restrict yourself once it gets boring to be high all the time (which may never happen or takes years to happen). Just be careful, treat your pain how you think you should. You know whats right and wrong, Theres nothing wrong with you. There is something that's hurting you and causing pain and you want it to stop. Good luck with that. If you have an abnormal sleep pattern or if you are an insomniac make sure to get some help with your sleep. It will kill your pain alot and give you energy.
poppy
05-28-2006, 04:32 PM
From my experience, my pain never goes away, even when I injest copious amounts of opiates and other drugs. Pain is always there and can be numbed.....to a point!!!
I truely feel for you and all the others on this site (and elsewhere for that matter) who are in constant pain. Nobody should have to suffer in such a way in this day and age when there are drugs to prevent such suffering!
exitwound
05-28-2006, 04:48 PM
Damn straight, man! Excellent post and some very good points.
Anyone with real pain shouldn't be ashamed of taking painkillers. If your pain is true and it interferes with your life and painkillers help you function better and suffer less, I don't see anything wrong with it. The problem occurs when you start taking more and more and coming close to overdoses. If you continue to do something like that and try to use the excuse that your in pain, you are in trouble. It's easy to rationalize something like that if you convince yourself you "need" it and deserve it because of your pain.
I am quite tall and too heavy for my body and my bones and muscles and joints tend to feel very sore all of the time and I have used this as an excuse to administer ridiculous amounts of narcotics to myself and it's hard to resist when you have that legitimate pain. From my experience, my pain never goes away, even when I injest copious amounts of opiates and other drugs. Pain is always there and can be numbed.....to a point!!!
Just take the least amount of drugs possible that effectively handles your pain. And don't feel guilty for it. It's your body you know what you need to feel better. Even if you are taking more than you should, eventually you'll probably restrict yourself once it gets boring to be high all the time (which may never happen or takes years to happen). Just be careful, treat your pain how you think you should. You know whats right and wrong, Theres nothing wrong with you. There is something that's hurting you and causing pain and you want it to stop. Good luck with that. If you have an abnormal sleep pattern or if you are an insomniac make sure to get some help with your sleep. It will kill your pain alot and give you energy.
Hannibal Lecter
05-28-2006, 10:28 PM
Ontario is pretty much correct...Dark One, when are you coming back down to Lake Wales Ridge? If you secure some rural property there then I am pretty sure you can grow your own poppies or whatever...:D
I haven't seen Gail or Mary lately so you pretty much would have to learn here what to do with grown papaver pods...I say go to "pain management" down here and get some OC...Take 'em as prescribed...(that is don't crush or chew them)...and add a generous dose of pods and voila your pain would be minimal...:rolleyes:
You don't HAVE to try up there if you are coming down here...in the meantime get your video project done and look for a GOOD IPO...It takes some digging but you CAN do this...:)
I cannot believe that if you can find weed, speed, and coke that you CAN'T find something to opiate yourself with...Dark Master seek and ye shall find what you search for...;)
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