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Paregoric Kid
02-01-2006, 02:38 AM
M1 is a metabolite of tramadol and is probably responsible for tramadol's opioid activity. it is 200 times stronger than tramadol at binding to the mu opioid receptor.

O-desmethyl tramadol is prepared by treating tramadol as a free base under O-demethylating reaction conditions, e.g., reacting it with a strong base such as NaOH or KOH, thiophenol and diethylene glycol (DEG) with heating to reflux (Wildes, et al., J. Org. Chem., 1971, 36, 721). The reaction takes about 1 h, followed by cooling and then quenching in water of the reaction mixture. The quenched mixture is acidified, extracted with an organic solvent such as ethyl ether, basified and then extracted with a halogenated organic solvent such as methylene chloride. The extract is then dried and the solvent evaporated to yield the O-desmethyl product, which may then be short-path distilled, converted to its corresponding salt, e.g., treated with an acidified (HCl/ethanol) solution, and recrystallized from an organic solvent mixture, e.g., ethanol/ethyl ether.

katomic
02-01-2006, 03:00 PM
yeah but tramadol its 6000 times weaker than morphine if my memory serves me right
your better off with codiene than tramadol or m1, m2, m3, m4 and m5
there all shit in my view

sidman
02-01-2006, 04:58 PM
which means you gotta eat 10,000 pills of tramadol!! screw THAT man!!

Paregoric Kid
02-01-2006, 07:41 PM
it's just information, I'm not suggesting anyone should do anything with it.

sidman
02-04-2006, 09:18 AM
oh.........okay

hovadagod
02-04-2006, 09:43 AM
I used to work in this building with a mezanine (sP?). At the time I was taking tram for my pain. I'd go down the elevator and look at the lights above designating the floor. IT would go 3, 2, m, 1...every time I would think about M1. Just wanted to let you all know that your not the only sicko out there...

JoyDivision
02-05-2006, 04:44 PM
Since I have a high tolerance to codeine. I've always found Tramadol most beneficial. I usually take 100mg to 200mg at once of the Immediate release stuff. 200mg is a good dose. 150mg isn't bad either. And boy does that stuff fuck me up! Only problem is when I come off it. I feel like topping myself.

morphiquet
09-06-2007, 08:51 AM
some time ago i read of another synthesis of m1 using a strong acid (if i remember correctly).
the problem in that was the fact that it also took off the tertiary hydroxyl, decreasing the potency of the product to about 60% that of tramadol.
wouldn't this also be the case when using a base?