Getting re-prescribed Ritalin/OCD traits returning

[oxydose]

When I was younger I had semi-sever untreated OCD, which I grew out of but lately I've been noticing minor OCD-like traits starting to return, I sometimes wonder if this has some effect on my worser "habits", actually though some aren't so-so bad, and kinda cleanly toward myself in a way. And for being a opiate junkie thats a good way to be I guess.

When I was younger I noticed that these traits stopped around the time I started taking Ritalin (around the 3rd grade for "behavioral issues"), and haven't been around even after I stopped taking them around the 9-10th grade. I'm now 23 and I have Often wondered if this would help me again and if this may be a good issue to help convince my new doctor that I may need to be re-prescribed them, plus I have concentration problems, insomnia, and just that standard lack of will to do certain things, to start and finish projects. Plus my opiate habit does not help this one bit.

Only problem is my doctor knows that I'm currently addicted to opioid(s), but also knows that I've been honest with her and haven't tried to get jack shit in terms of recreational drugs off her, also she has my last two doctors records, both showing long term prescribed high doses of Ritalin.

So does anyone think that I have a snow balls chance in hell at getting re-prescribed Ritalin, or possibly if someone upstairs loves me Adderall or Dexedrine? Thanks for reading and for all repliers, peace

-ocd

[Uncle Wiggly]

When I was younger I had semi-sever untreated OCD, which I grew out of but lately I've been noticing minor OCD-like traits starting to return, I sometimes wonder if this has some effect on my worser "habits", actually though some aren't so-so bad, and kinda cleanly toward myself in a way. And for being a opiate junkie thats a good way to be I guess.

When I was younger I noticed that these traits stopped around the time I started taking Ritalin (around the 3rd grade for "behavioral issues"), and haven't been around even after I stopped taking them around the 9-10th grade. I'm now 23 and I have Often wondered if this would help me again and if this may be a good issue to help convince my new doctor that I may need to be re-prescribed them, plus I have concentration problems, insomnia, and just that standard lack of will to do certain things, to start and finish projects. Plus my opiate habit does not help this one bit.

Only problem is my doctor knows that I'm currently addicted to opioid(s), but also knows that I've been honest with her and haven't tried to get jack shit in terms of recreational drugs off her, also she has my last two doctors records, both showing long term prescribed high doses of Ritalin.

So does anyone think that I have a snow balls chance in hell at getting re-prescribed Ritalin, or possibly if someone upstairs loves me Adderall or Dexedrine? Thanks for reading and for all repliers, peace

-ocd

Hi Ocd, I read your post a while ago and I've been looking for some current information regarding treatment of people with addiction. There's a lot of stuff on the web about it but your situation is a bit different. Here's a site to start with. I'm not sure if the hyper-link will work or if you;ll have to copy and paste. www.med.umich.edu/pain/jcahot.htm (http://www.med.umich.edu/pain/jcahot.htm)

This is a list of myths and barriers that can come between doctor and patient when it comes to issues of pain control This set of standards was set in 2001 but it basically states that anybody who is experiencing pain, regardless of social background, is entitled to adequate pain control.

The first web site I copied is from a study done by JCAHO and the University of Michigan. The URL for JCAHO is www.jcaho.org (http://www.jcaho.org/) (weird I think that may have copied as a hyper link.) JCAHO is an accreditation organization that sets standards for hospitals, nursing homes etc... Thought this may be a good place for you to read about what the health care industry is saying about treating people in your situation.

As you've been honest with your doc all this time perhaps something could be setup that she can monitor closely. I'm not sure what your chances are but if your starting to have noticeable O.C.D. symptoms she may be inclined to help you but it may not be with the med you're looking for.

Good luck and I hope this helped a little.

[oxydose]

Thanks for the help but I don't understand what your talking about pain control and believe that you may be confused, when I say OCD I'm talking about Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, not any painful medical condition.

Couple small things I do, needing a correct number of ice cubes in a drink, washing hands a certain way/number of times, rinsing out fresh used rigs a set way/number of times (guess this one is actually really good though Lol)...

Plus I'd just like to get my Ritalin back, its been years since I've felt that I've needed it but with my OCD symptons returning and the other problems I'm having concentrating and keeping motivated I think it would be beneficial for me to put back on them, not to mention my hair trigger temper I've seemed to developed since my habit went from casual to addictive use...

I hope she listens and seriously considers what I have to say, like I said I was prescribed the stuff in high doses for over 10 years, in 3rd grade my mother was actually faced with the option of having me removed from school or being put on Ritalin, gotta love the US education system, whats wrong with a kid being a kid? Problem is my the time I was in school whipping was out, and I guess they figured the next best thing for the ram-bunk-shish(sp?) kids was to dope them up with speed, I often wonder if the heavy doses for so many of my younger childhood years may have led me to where I am today, the addictive traits I have and what-not...

-ocd

[mikells43]

i kno a friend now who is a very heavy drinker. he does not do any other drugs besides booze. he was perscribed ritilin all thru highschool and elem school. he does not take it now. he has untreated adhd/ocd/add. and its really noticable from my view point. i once thought i had add but it turns out i was just thinking wrong and i changed some things and fixed that. but if u really have it and are medicated for it when young, then go off of the meds , it is noticable. i can see this kids disorders like a sore thumb trust me there their. i wish u the best in finding a soultion. chances are ull prob get some stims if u have records. just say it interferes with ur daily living. and if its ocd say u can't even do things cause or ur rituals.

[havok]

Is ritalin or other ADD medication usually prescribed for OCD? I have never heard of this type of treatment for OCD.

If you really want to be scripted ritalin, and your current doctor won't give it to you, it would be very easy to get it from a different doctor. Instead of trying to get ritalin for OCD, I would just pretend to have ADD, which is extremely easy to do. Most people have some form of ADD. I mean who here hasn't had trouble concentrating on something?

Personally, I think ADD is complete bullshit. I understand that some people do have severe ADD which does require medication. However, pretty much anyone can be diagnosed with ADD. Just because you have trouble concentrating doesn't automatically mean you should be taking medication. I think a large majority of people taking ritalin or adderall don't really need it, and they are taking it for the "high".

I bet the pharmacutical companies just love ADD. It is a gold mine for them. They can get people hooked on ritalin/adderall at a young age and keep them on it for years.

What really makes me angry is all these young kids under ten years old that are being given large amounts of stimulants every day because their parents are too lazy to properly raise them. Every kid has trouble staying focused or acts out from time to time. It is a completely normal part of growing up. This doesn't mean they should be given powerful stimulants. I also know that alot of these kids who are prescribed ritalin or adderall end up becoming addicted to meth. I mean adderall is amphetamine which is just a slightly weaker form of methamphetamine. I can't believe that doctors give young kids addictive stimulants like adderall.

[oxydose]

No No, I never got Ritalin for my OCD traits, I got them for what I said, behavorial issues. I had two docs and a specalist all saying I had server ADHD as a child/teen...

[Uncle Wiggly]

Thanks for the help but I don't understand what your talking about pain control and believe that you may be confused, when I say OCD I'm talking about Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, not any painful medical condition.Couple small things I do, needing a correct number of ice cubes in a drink, washing hands a certain way/number of times, rinsing out fresh used rigs a set way/number of times (guess this one is actually really good though Lol)...


Hi Ocd, I apologize for not making myself clearer in my answer to your post. I was trying to let you know that the medical field has come around to the conclusion that even people in active addiction need to be treated for their problems. I realize you don't have pain issues. (At least I didn't read anything in your post about it.) But O.C.D. is a significant and well researched medical condition. If you're seeing it become a hurdle in your life then you should discuss it with your doc.

What I was trying to say is since you've been honest with your doc as far as your use of recreationals - you may have a pretty good chance of getting medication for the O.C.D. She has your records so she's going to understand that your not trying to blow smoke up her ass.

The reason I gave you those links was to let you know that most docs are getting the message from one of their supervisory groups that being an addict doesn't preclude one from getting proper medical care. Now I'm not fooling myself into thinking this is how it is every where but in your case I think it will help.

I hope that explains what I mentioned in my previous post. I sure didn't mean to confuse the issue and I know I should have been more specific toward your individual concerns. I hope this will help. Take care.

BTW I realize the Ritalin was given to you for another condition but you can always explain how it helped you. Try this link http://www.ocfoundation.org/

[Levity]

In my experience, if you have a previously documented case of whatever and it returns, you're usually able to get re-treatment.

However, there are other psychoactives used to treat OCD, especially in adults. These run the course from tricyclic antidepressants to MAOIs and SSRIs.

I would go in, explain the situation, and asked to be put back on Ritalin or Adderall (Dexedrine is a huge strech, unless you want to fake narcolepsy). If the doctor pushes another drug, say you're worried about the sexual side effects (new girlfriend, new passion with the wife you don't want to ruin). If you still end up with Prozac or Wellbutrin, get it filled, give it two weeks, and make a follow up and tell her the side effects (look em up, but sexual is the best bet) are too much and ask for the Ritalin or Adderall (extended release or low dose would be a good starting point) again. At this point, the doc should give in.

Best of luck, and let us know how it goes.

[mikells43]

if im thinking correctly, now u can correct me if im wrong. but wolnt ritilin make u ritualize even more cause u take the med and it like zones you in to focus on what u are doing. when ive used ritilin before and any other stim. i did stupid things that u can say are ocd related and i did them for hours at a time. like for instance journaling, one time i cut things out of a magazine for 4 hours. people who use meth for a living, or "tweekers", do ocdish things all the time when they "tweak". so i dont think ritilin or any amphet stim would be good for you if u have ocd. it might work diff that i dont kno of, and if u are struggling with add/adhd it would be great but i think it would make u spend alot more time on ur rituals than u do now cause you will be in the zone and focused and all of that good stuff that comes with popping a stim. ur brain might be diff but i kno if i popped a stim id be fucking doing weird rituals all damn day till it wore off.

just trying to provide some insite, cause i dont want to see u stuck in the house all day washing ur hands or counting aa batteries when u thought this might be a soultion .

[drugsaregood]

I take ritalin. I told the new doc of my drug history, that I'm clean...She was very hesitant, but had the support of my parents, and add\adhd runs in my family severely...

It wasn't that hard honestly though, best case however as mentioned previously, find a new doc, don't mention drug abuse...

If you are really having OCD symptoms, and you want treatment...Go in for that, tell them Ritalin worked well in the past, and personally I would object to all SSRI's as it causes alot of changes personality wise, sexual, etc. I despise SSRI's, however SNRI's (wellbutrin) isn't half bad...

If you want Ritalin to get high, bring your med records to a doctor, or you might not even have to. When you first see them they should have a checklist of your current symptoms, google the fuck out of ADD\ADHD symptoms, and explain your "situation". There are some newer anti-abuseable meds available, but I believe they're more expensive than ritalin. I pay $30 for 60 generic 10mg, without insurance. Time released ritalin is more expensive but is stronger and more desired when abused...When your in the docs office, try to display some symptoms subtly. One technique that worked well for me in the past, is being fidgety with your foot. Bounce it up and down on the floor, not too crazy but on and off, pretend to not even notice it, try to listen into what they're saying, but not too hard...

Goodluck either way.

[mikells43]

I take ritalin. I told the new doc of my drug history, that I'm clean...She was very hesitant, but had the support of my parents, and add\adhd runs in my family severely...

It wasn't that hard honestly though, best case however as mentioned previously, find a new doc, don't mention drug abuse...

If you are really having OCD symptoms, and you want treatment...Go in for that, tell them Ritalin worked well in the past, and personally I would object to all SSRI's as it causes alot of changes personality wise, sexual, etc. I despise SSRI's, however SNRI's (wellbutrin) isn't half bad...

If you want Ritalin to get high, bring your med records to a doctor, or you might not even have to. When you first see them they should have a checklist of your current symptoms, google the fuck out of ADD\ADHD symptoms, and explain your "situation". There are some newer anti-abuseable meds available, but I believe they're more expensive than ritalin. I pay $30 for 60 generic 10mg, without insurance. Time released ritalin is more expensive but is stronger and more desired when abused...When your in the docs office, try to display some symptoms subtly. One technique that worked well for me in the past, is being fidgety with your foot. Bounce it up and down on the floor, not too crazy but on and off, pretend to not even notice it, try to listen into what they're saying, but not too hard...

Goodluck either way.

do u snort ur ritilins? just a question. when i used to use them in hs. i would get the 30mg ones i beleive. they were very hard in texture and when crushed they stuck to the sink and had to be scraped off with a card. the 10's i didn't like cause when snorted they were sugary if im thinking right i liked the time realsed ones alot better, its been so long

[20Dollarholla]

Whats up man? I definetly see a connection between kids who were perscribed ADD/ADHD meds when they were young and turn out to be pill poppers when they grow up. Think about it, what does ADD/ADHD meds do besides teach you at a very young age that there is a pill for everything. Its not just you, Oxy, I too was perscribed Ritalin for behavioral issues and thats what I learned. My story sounds the same as yours, was perscribed young and taken off of in High School, and became a full blown junkie. I know I cant blame anyone besides myself for ending up where I am, but I definetly believe that the thought about pills was planted in me when I was perscribed Ritalin. I figuredd if there was a medicine that made me behave that pills would solve any problem I had.

Reading this has blown my mind on how I never have met you, and how similar our lives are, maybe there's something in the water here in the midwest making us addicts, LOL.


Thanks for the help but I don't understand what your talking about pain control and believe that you may be confused, when I say OCD I'm talking about Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, not any painful medical condition.

Couple small things I do, needing a correct number of ice cubes in a drink, washing hands a certain way/number of times, rinsing out fresh used rigs a set way/number of times (guess this one is actually really good though Lol)...

Plus I'd just like to get my Ritalin back, its been years since I've felt that I've needed it but with my OCD symptons returning and the other problems I'm having concentrating and keeping motivated I think it would be beneficial for me to put back on them, not to mention my hair trigger temper I've seemed to developed since my habit went from casual to addictive use...

I hope she listens and seriously considers what I have to say, like I said I was prescribed the stuff in high doses for over 10 years, in 3rd grade my mother was actually faced with the option of having me removed from school or being put on Ritalin, gotta love the US education system, whats wrong with a kid being a kid? Problem is my the time I was in school whipping was out, and I guess they figured the next best thing for the ram-bunk-shish(sp?) kids was to dope them up with speed, I often wonder if the heavy doses for so many of my younger childhood years may have led me to where I am today, the addictive traits I have and what-not...

-ocd

[oxycat]

OxyDose, were you able to come up with something about getting re-prescribed? The reason I ask is because I had severe add as a child which seem to somewhat clear up in my early 20s. Now i'm in my 30s and after having 6 surgeries in a 3 month span and severe trauma on my body from almost dying due to surgeries, my add is back and with a vengence! I started seeing a really good psychiatrist and told him about having this as child and the next thing i knew he was handing me scripts of Adderall. I see my shrink once a month and he is soo cool. He's an old hippee himself and is just really cool. Anyways, I just wanted to say that it is possible. I had no medical records from that long ago and he helped me. I take my adderall like I'm supposed to "most of the time". Every once in a while I will take a little more but it really doesn't effect me the way it does someone who does not have add. I sleep like a princess on adderall. I can focus at work and in the courtroom (i'm a legal professional) and I feel as though I'm not running around in circles all of the time. I have several OCD traits myself but these are illuminated when I take adderall. I hope this helps you some. Go shopping for a psychiatrist. A family dr probably won't do anything for you. Good Luck!